The Quakers moved from Nantucket to Guildford County, NC, then to Wayne County, IN. In both places you will find Quaker colleges; Guildford College and Earlham College. The library at Earlham College can provide lots of information. Contiguous to it is a cemetery containing many members of Nantucket families. Gordon Lane

Thank you for agreeing to this assist. It will be of great help. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilynn Masten" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 6:09 AM Subject: Re: [GARDNER] Suggestion > Read it and agree. But after over 40 years of research, most of it confined > to the Gardners, I began to notice a pattern of researchers inquiring about > the same people but not connected because they haven't found each other. > > I am assuming these Gardners who are sending their messages have done their > homework and are those who have hit the proverbial brick wall. I am willing > to organize any who have hit this brick wall and hope to forge some links. > > At one time I informed my Gardner/Garner family I would stay with OUR family > and not go out on any other limbs. But since that time I have found some > limbs floundering about who have been able, thru the net and a lot of hard > work, to connect. My only desire is to try to help these Gardners connect. > That is why I am limiting it to the south. And after 40 years, I sure don't > want to start over! > > Marilynn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lois" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 11:14 AM > Subject: [GARDNER] Suggestion > > > > I strongly suggest that you all go to > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vaaugust/cook.htm and read the article on Internet > Genealogy, then "fall back and start over". > > > > Lois Gardner Scully > > > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > >

The question is how do you decide which of the Gardners is the one that you are using as the one that is the beginning of the line of Gardners in NC. You said that you move my line of Gardners out of the William pile into the James pile, but it seems to me that the parents who came to NC (William) before the birth of their son (James) would be the ones to start with. (Since the message replied to is cut out of the message, as was suggested today, it does not appear as part of the communication thread in this message) __________________ Marilynn Masten wrote: > Muriah, > > Check out our Web Site. > > Marilynn----- Original Message ----- > From: "muriah" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 12:00 PM > Subject: Re: Migration stories - Re: [GARDNER] NC GARDNER - Generations > Removed > > > Marilynn, > > Where do you begin? The one who moved to NC or the one who born to him > there? > > > > Marilynn

I read the reference and I see nothing wrong in finding other people looking for the same family name (mine is Isaac Gardner). When I first went on this site I cited my sources. Now I want to find others looking at this same family so we can compare notes. And by the way, I am an experienced genealogist, who did the reseach the old way, before the internet. Joan Best ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lois" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 5:14 AM Subject: [GARDNER] Suggestion > I strongly suggest that you all go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~vaaugust/cook.htm and read the article on Internet Genealogy, then "fall back and start over". > > Lois Gardner Scully > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

Hi there! > Seanette, no offense, but why in the world would anyone move to Coos Bay......WEST AND DREARY. My family originally set up shop around Weston, Oregon, near Pendleton. No, I can't find any of their names on the Oregon Trail "register" however, my grandfather, Jay Wallace Gardner was born in Weston, Oregon 1884. [email protected] you might want to include you email address. I'm not even sure where Weston is :-). Coos Bay isn't the most wonderful place in the world, stipulated, but I've lived in worse places. ;-) [email protected]

Could you start a pile of Isaacs. My Mary Gardner, born in 1824 to Isaac Gardner in Ohio. I know there was an Isaac Jr. and Sr. at that time who could be her father (either one, I guess) but have no proof. Would like to hear from Isaac Gardner people. Joan Best ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilynn Masten" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 4:22 AM Subject: Re: [GARDNER] NC GARDNER - appx 1776 - 1846 +/- > Will someone please explain to me why I chose William? Oh, well, Muriah, > yours goes into the growing pile of Williams. > > Marilynn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "muriah" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 8:00 PM > Subject: [GARDNER] NC GARDNER - appx 1776 - 1846 +/- > > > > NC GARDNER > > > > My Gardner Ancestors in North Carolina, appx 1776 - 1846 +/- > > > > William Gardner married his cousin Susanna Gardner on Nantucket Island, > > Mass, his place of birth, and they gave birth to James Gardner, Sr at > > Deep River in Gilford County, North Carolina on 4 May 1776. James > > married at Deep River on 4 Mar 1802 Elizabeth Starbuck (yes, it is said > > that Starbuck coffee "borrowed" the name from this family), who was also > > born on Nantucket, and their son John Lucian Gardner was born at Deep > > River, NC in 1805. This couple, James and Elizabeth, moved to Wayne > > County, Indiana, where they are buried. John Lucian married Margaret > > Harris and they went west on the Oregon Trail. > > > > Muriah > > > > 11th generation descendant of Richard Gardner, 1623 Immigrant..... > > ___________________________________________________ > > > > Thanks, Marilynn! > > Muriah > > ___________________________________________________ > > > > Subject: Re: [GARDNER] James GARDNER b 1776 NC > > Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:20:04 -0600 > > Resent-From: [email protected] > > Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:20:09 -0400 > > From: "Marilynn Masten" > > <[email protected]> > > > > Let's get all of these NC Gardners collected in one place and see what > > comes > > of it. I, being a Gardner idiot (www.usroots.com/~gardners/index.html) > > volunteer. If it gets too big for me, I, being not THAT big an idiot, > > will > > then unvolunteer. > > > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >

Hi, Muriah! > What are the Names of your Gardners on the southern Oregon coast? > What dates? > Where? I'll start at my mother, who was born a Gardner, and work back as far as I'm confident :-) - Peggy Jean Gardner b. 30 Dec. 1951, Myrtle Point, Coos, Oregon. Parents: Glenn Orville Gardner and Sarah Louise Hurst m. 10 Sept. 1969, place unknown [she won't say :-)], to Richard Ray Pierce [first marriage, which produced me] Glenn Orville Gardner b. 19 June 1914, Bandon, Coos, Oregon. Parents: Aura William Gardner and Wilhelmina [spelling uncertain] Frederica Laura Wooden. m. 1 June 1946, Forest Grove, Washington, Oregon, to Sarah Louise Hurst [later divorced. This marriage produced three sons and one daughter, Peggy Jean]. Aura William Gardner b. 1882, Kalamazoo, Michigan. Parents: Lafayette Gardner and Sarah [surname unknown]. m. 18 July 1911, Coos County, Oregon, to Wilhelmina [spelling uncertain] Frederica Laura Wooden [later divorced] d. I don't seem to have that information, but he'd pretty much have to have died by now Lafayette Gardner b. 2 June 1850, Kalamazoo, Michigan. Parents: Jacob Gardner and Mary Spicer. m. date and place unknown, to Sarah [surname unknown] d. 1 Sep 1918, Port Orford, Curry, Oregon. Jacob Gardner [here's where we start getting a little shaky :-)] b. 1825, Hudson, New York. Parents believed to be Jacob Gardner and Priscilla [surname unknown]. m. date and place unknown, to Mary Spicer. d. date and place unknown Any connections? :-) Seanette

Hmmm, Is this Scully of X-files setting us straight! (chuckle!) M _ Lois wrote: > I strongly suggest that you all go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~vaaugust/cook.htm and read the article on Internet Genealogy, then "fall back and start over". > > Lois Gardner Scully

Gordon, This information is exciting! Thank you! I will explore it! Muriah _____ Gordon Lane wrote: > The Quakers moved from Nantucket to Guildford County, NC, then to Wayne County, IN. In both places you will find Quaker colleges; Guildford College and Earlham College. The library at Earlham College can provide lots of information. Contiguous to it is a cemetery containing many members of Nantucket families. > > Gordon Lane > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

Mary Jean, I appreciate your attention to detail and care for the life situation beyond the statistics and hard facts. Muriah _____ [email protected] wrote: > Hi list: > > Guess I better mention my GARDNER line, since everyone is adding their's. > > My husband's grandfather was Elliott Ethelred GARDNER, b. 1864, Harborne, > Staffordshire, later Warwickshire, England, son of William and Martha > HARRISON GARDNER. > > He came to Philadelphia in 1892, worked as a jeweler, and attended Medical > School at Temple University. He married Marion Jane BLYTHE in 1894, in > Philadelphia, and came to Baltimore, Maryland to finish school and get his > degree. He practised medicine in Baltimore and Deale, Maryland and died in > 1938. > > I have his grandparents traced in England - Joseph GARDNER 1795-1852 and > Hannah ROBBINS 1807-aft1851, but have gotten no farthur back. > > Anybody see a connection? > > Mary Jean > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

How were they driven from Illinois? What was driving them out of Illinois? The epidemic? The religious persecution? or what? Marilynn Masten wrote: > Maybe they did what so many members of my church, Church of Jesus Christ of > Latterday Saints, did when they pulled and pushed handcarts across the > plains after they were driven from Illinois. > > Marilynn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "muriah" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 9:14 AM > Subject: Westward Migration to Land's End (trait) Re: [GARDNER] Muriah > > > Do you know how they traveled to Oregon from Iowa? > > I wonder if they used a covered wagon or horseback only or foot and > horseback and whether they came along the Oregon Trail or some other way and > what kind of group they traveled in, whether it was a family group or > neighbors or religious group or group of land seekers or health oasis > seekers and what part of Oregon they first arrived in and whether > > they settled there or moved on and settled elsewhere, or continued to move > place to place until they could no longer move westward because of the > land's end.

Marilynn, Where do you begin? The one who moved to NC or the one who born to him there? My William Gardner moved to NC from Nantucket and his son, James was born in NC in 1805, in Deep River, Guilford County. For me, my Gardners were living in NC from the time that William arrived there, before his son James was born. The NC portion of my Gardner migration goes until James moves his family to Indiana, including John Lucian Gardner who was born in NC and relocated to Indiana and then went west on the Oregon Trail. So, the NC portion of my Gardner line includes William, James, and John Lucian Gardner and involves a time period around 1776-1825, beginning when William moved from Nantucket to NC before his son James was born in NC in 1776 until the time that James left NC and moved to Indiana where he died in 1825. If we are to connect NC Gardners, that is the time and place and people of my Gardners in NC. They arrived in NC as Quakers. It seems that that they left NC as Quakers. Muriah _____ Marilynn Masten wrote: > Muriah, Just noticed your story begins here with James so I shall move your > family over to the James pile. > > Marilynn > ----- Original Message ----- > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

Marilynn, Chuckle!!!! My Gardners were put into a pot and stirred when they were confined to life on an island for about a century, each generation multiplying geometrically so that I have ancestor male Gardner marrying ancestor female Gardner cousin, Susanna Gardner with William Gardner (who married on Nantucket and moved to NC). As to collecting names, I can see the value of each of us presenting all the names of our ancestors in a particular time and/or place, giving all others the opportunity to make the connection. I cannot see how it can be very worthwhile for any one person to be responsible for making the connection for people who are not related instead of letting the people who are related make their own connections. Regarding Gardner headstones in NC, are you saying that the oldest one that you know of is 1847? I wonder if there are any from the 1700s when my Gardners migrated to NC. On Nantucket, one of the Gardner headstones is stored in one of the historic houses. In Salem the Gardner headstones were re-located to a historical preserve when the freeway was routed over Gardner Hill Cemetery. I hope to go see them at both of those places someday. I would appreciate photos of any headstone of any Gardners of my line. I would be glad to share photos and info to anyone downline from the ones available to me. So far, most of those are immediate relatives, who are already sharing. Muriah _____ Marilynn Masten wrote: > Muriah, someone long ago put all of the Gardners into a big pot and stirred. > Therein lies the problem. One kind soul offered to take John. Nobody else > has come up with any offers. Come on, you guys. Gimmie a hand. > > If you looked at our Web Site www.usroots.com/~gardners/index.html you would > see we have NO idea where the first William came from, his religion nor > political persuasion. Head stone? Don't even know when he died. Just > where. And that he apparantly DID die eventually. > > Oldest headstone I never went to look at (afraid of snakes in the tall > grass) but I believe it is the one for Willliam Hoyle Garadner, son of > Thomas, son of William, who died in 1847. Our Web Site is full of Gardner > stories. Don't believe all of them. > > Marilynn

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Bonnie Jean wrote: > > KATE wrote: > > > > Hi All > > > > I am looking for any info on my Gardner family in Scotland. > > > > Francis Gardner b. 1831 Newton, Lanarkshire m. Janet Steven Whyte b. 12 > > Oct 1834, married in Cambuslang, Lanark on 24 Oct 1856. > > > > Samuel b. 27 Nov 1856 > > James Whyte b. 26 Sep 1858 > > Francis b. 16 Jan 1861 > > John W. b. 22 Oct 1863 > > Elizabeth Sommerville b. 25 Feb 1866 > > William b. 29 Apr 1868 > > > > After the death of Janet, Francis went on to marry Martha Marshall 30 > > Dec 1870 in Rutherglen, Lanark > > > > Jennie Wright > > Martha Marshall > > Magdelene b. 09 Sep 1871 > > Annie b. 17 Nov 1873 > > Alexander b. 01 Aug 1877 > > Samuel b. 1881 > > > > John W. immigrated to Yale Kansas, followed by Alexander. > > > > Does anyone know this family? > > > > Thanks > > > > -- > > KATE > > Indiana, USA > > > > > > Kate I feel there must be some connection here but I can't see it at the > moment. Maybe someone else on the list can help us make a connection > here. Here is what I have. > > . Henry Ellis Gardiner, born 1847; died December 1, 1901 in 33 Portland > St. Hamilton, Scotland. He married (1) Sommerville Buchanan M. S. Law > August 17, 1875. She was the daughter of John Law and Janet. > > Children of Henry Gardiner and Sommerville Law are: > i. Henry Gardiner, born 1877. > ii. Janet B. Gardiner, born 1879. > iii. Mary W. Gardiner, born 1881. > iv. Harry Gardiner, born 1882. > v. John Gardiner, born 1884. > vi. Richard Gardiner, born 1886. > vii. Sommerville Gardiner, born 1887. > viii. James Waterston Gardiner, born November 30, 1888; died February > 28, 1907 in "Hebron" of consumption. > ix. Alexander Millar Gardiner, born February 1, 1891 in 151 Quarry St. > Hamilton Scotland; died December 18, 1949 > > Alexander Millar was my maternal grandfather. He was sent to Canada at > age 14 as an orphan and I know nothing about his siblings or their > descendants. I do have complete info on his descendants which I am > willing to share if it is connected to your tree. > -- > With best wishes from Bonnie Jean, > > mailto:[email protected] > > "Work like you don't need the money, > love like you've never been hurt and > dance like you do when nobody's watching." -- With best wishes from Bonnie Jean, mailto:[email protected] "Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt and dance like you do when nobody's watching."

List: I wonder how many Robert Lee Gardner's there are? Here is mine: Robert Lee GARDNER b 17 February 1864 Henderson Co., TX, died 14 February 1934 Henderson Co., TX. Married 5 times to: Julia Ann Dean "Georgie" ca 1883 Vergie E. Green ca 1896 Alice Neal ca 1908 Pomelia Bagwell ca 1910 Laura Armstrong after 1917 He had 10 children by 4 of these wives! Cathi Agnew Smith Would like to connect with descendants of these families.

Nice to see the list so busy! Looking for Henry or Wesley GARDNER b. Abt 1817 Dayton, Montgomery Co, OH, d. 1863 Dayton, Montgomery Co, OH, m1 Mary FLEMINGS, m2 Estelle UNKNOWN. He had children: 1. Reason Wesley GARDNER b. Mar 1844 OH - 5 Jan 1918 Callaway Co, MO, m1 22 Jan 1865 Synthia Ann ROWE, m2 20 Mar 1882 Sarah Ellen McCOWEN 2. Francis GARDNER 3. Mary GARDNER Happy Hunting! Beverly and Larry Alexander [email protected] I hear ethereal whispers persuasive, soft and still, "Daughter, if you don't remember us, who will?" Author: Dot Stutter

Sorry, No ancestors or decendents in Ma.

Sorry I forgot the dates for the Maine Gardners, the info is as followed: John Gardner. Born on Jan 17, 1804 John died on Oct 29, 1883, he was 79. Anna Diamond. Born on Jun 7, 1810. Anna died on Mar 18, 1893, she was 82 BRICK WALL - I believe that John Gardner was born in New Brunswick , he did move from Campellton New Brunswick to Allagash ME. Anyone have any info on this branch? ___________________________ Joseph Gardner. Born on Feb 12, 1845 Joseph died on May 29, 1895, he was 50. Annie Eunice Mullins. Born in 1850. Religion: Christian, Christening January 27, 1853 St. Luce, Frenchville. ____________________________ John "Jack" Joseph Gardner. Born on Apr 1, 1878. John "Jack" Joseph died in Apr 1963, he was 84. Buried in Vasselboro, ME. John "Jack" Joseph married Cora Louise Diamond. Born on Jun 19, 1891 in Canada. Cora Louise died on Jan 2, 1960, she was 68 ________________________________ Glazier Daniel Gardner. Born on Jun 10, 1925 in Allagash, ME On Nov 5, 1947 when Glazier Daniel was 22, he married Glennis Townsend.

Darrell, In response to the message at the bottom, thank you for pointing out something that will help make list communication more concise. It hadn't occurred to me to cut and paste a portion of the message that I was responding to for including to show what I was responding to. Perhaps those using Digest Mode have to do it that way. With most of my email I nearly always use "reply" to reply to received mail and I have the settings adjusted to show the message that I responding to so that the people who are receiving them don't have to strain themselves trying to figure out what I am responding to (unlike what I have to do so often when people do not indicate what they are responding to. I can see that often, just the mention of the subject is sufficient so that a "reply to" message is not necessary. For instance the single line message to the list "It is still wet and dreary" could mention the subject and read, for the benefit of all, "It is still wet and dreary there, in Coos Bay." Darrell, I prefer to see the latest part of the message at the top, were it appears immediately upon opening the message, making it immediately apparent what the message is about and not requiring scrolling to the bottom to find the message, instead of seeing again the message that we have already seen before when we open the message and then have to scroll through all the hatch marks until we find where the new message begins. Is there a reason that makes it better to have the reply at the bottom, following the prior message? I considered your advise about including no more than is important to the subject in the reply and decided that all of your message is important. Thanks. Muriah ________ "Darrell A. Martin" wrote: > At 07:28 PM 6/14/01 -0700, muriah wrote: > >What are the Names of your Gardners on the southern Oregon coast? > >What dates? > >Where? > >Muriah > > > >PS...... > >Isn't it true that the information that we provide in these messages > >remains available in the archives to be researched for years? > >I am currently contacting people who wrote rootsweb messages a year or two > >ago regarding the westward journey of our ancestors. > >It seems, the more details of data that we provide in these messages > >(especially names and dates and places) the better. > > Hi, everybody: > > Yes, it is true that all messages are archived "forever" on the RootsWeb > servers. So it is an excellent idea, for that reason as well as many > others, to include as much relevant information as possible. For the good > of the list, though, we should all try to avoid copying more than is > required to identify the topic, when we *reply* to a message. But in that > case too, one should try not to be TOO cryptic. "Sally, yes" wouldn't help > the rest of us, who may be interested, very much <grin>! > > The URLs for the two different archives are > > For interactive search (word or phrase) > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > For threaded search (follow a conversation) > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > In case you are interested, e-mail addresses in the archives are encrypted > or recreated on the fly (the two archives use different methods, and I > don't recall which is which) to avoid spammers being able to harvest > subscribers for their own "evil" purposes. This is true both of addresses > in the headers and those typed in the body of a message. However, the > addresses are visible normally when viewed through a browser. > > Hope this helps, > > Darrell > > Admin for VTGEN, VTCALEDO, VTLAMOIL, VTORANGE, VTWINDSO, MANORFOL, F.ELCH, > F.ORBUSH, G.ARDNER, H.ARTWELL, H.ULBERT, L.AMSON, L.OWER, N.ELSON, > R.OUSSEAU, R.USSEAU -- [email protected] > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog