Hello Valerie, Laura, and List Members, As Alice in Wonderland said, "this just gets curiouser and curiouser"!! I know that Robert A. Allen did have a son by the name of Josiah Young Allen because he was among the Allens and Joneses that migrated to Jackson Parish, LA. Josiah Y. Allen was established on a farm there, but shown as a merchant, on the 1870 census. I have info from the Jackson Parish History book, published about 1985, that his wife was Martha Horton(or Haughton). No birth or marriage dates are given for this couple. In fact, Josiah Young's name is given as Charles Josiah Young Allen in this history. I know descendants of his who are still living in Jonesboro, LA, and they have passed down all three names to sons. I do not believe J. Y. used his first name. J. Y. Allen's wife is Martha on the 1870 Jackson parish census, and they had three kids at the time. I feel they were there quite a bit earlier as I found 2 or 3 markers in a very old cemetery for young children of "J. Y. and M. H. Allen" on them. Can't find my note as to the dates of death just now. I'm sure they were married in the 1840's as the primary subject of this historical sketch, their son Charles Washington Allen, was born in 1849 in GA. My grandfather, son of Mary Ann Allen & William Riley Jones and the grandson of Robert A. Allen, was in the 1870-1872 group to relocate. I don't know the names of other Allens who came with him, but some of these guys and the Jones fellows, moved on to Texas where I've lost track of all of them. I think the marriage records must have either misspelled Josiah Young Allen's name, or there were two Allens marrying women with the same name. There could well be a "Joseph T. Allen", son of the "other" Robert Allen, first cousin of Robert A. Allen. I don't have any facts about the second Robert, but have been told by a lifelong resident of Zebulon that he was definitely there. She descends from Robert A. (called Major Bob), and her deceased husband from the second Robert Allen. They didn't realize they had ties until after marriage. This has become a book, which I didn't intend when I began! Now, I guess the mystery is was there a Joseph T. Allen, son of one Robt. Allen, but not Robert A.? If so, did he also marry a Martha Horton? I'm signing off now because I certainly do not know the answers to those questions!! Thanks for all the input! Janell Jones Goss > [Original Message] > From: Laura Ranville <lranvill@holt.k12.mi.us> > To: <GAPIKE-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 5/25/02 12:16:47 PM > Subject: Re: [GAPIKE] Pike Co., GA -- Allen & Horton > > Hi Valerie. > Here's my info about Martha A Horton and Joseph T Allen: > According to the Pike Co, GA Marriage records, book 60, they were married > April 12, 1842. That's all I have except for a speculated bd for Martha as > 1824. Hope this helps! > Laura > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <VCJFreeman@aol.com> > To: <GAPIKE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 10:07 AM > Subject: [GAPIKE] Pike Co., GA -- Allen & Horton > > > > Janell -- > > > > OK -- I want to kick myself right now. I am usually VERY picky about > making > > sure I have source information. But for the life of me, I can't figure > out > > why I don't show any for Joseph or my link to Robert as his father. > > > > The marriage record came from the Pike Co., GA Gen Web Archives. The URL > > is: > > > > ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ga/pike/vitals/marriages/grooma.txt > > > > It shows: > > > > Allen, Joseph T. - Horton, Martha A. in 1842 pg. 60 > > > > Since my other source note is: Laura Ranville <lranvill@holt.k12.mi.us> > > I would e-mail Laura. I bet I got the information from her. Please note, > > the first letter of her e-mail address is a lower case "L" (for Laura) and > > not an I. > > > > I also found this in my "notes" section: > > -------------------------------------------- > > Subj: Re: Horton / "History of Pike Co., GA" > > Date: 7/8/2001 6:31:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time > > From: worldlight@goodnews.net (J. Paul Pennington) > > To: VCJFreeman@aol.com > > > > Valerie, > > > > Re: "History of Pike County, Georgia, 1822 - 1989," c. Pike Co., GA 1989 > > > > F14 > > Josiah Young Allen (son of Robert A. Allen) married Martha Horton of > Monroe > > Co, GA > > ----------------------------------------- > > > > So now, I am questioning my information and just about ready to delete > Robert > > as the father of Joseph. As far as I know, by the 1840's the Hortons I > am > > dealing with were all in Pike Co, though I know Pike Co was formed from > part > > of Monroe. But I believe the Monroe Co. Hortons and Pike Co Hortons were > two > > separate and unrelated families. > > > > I am also posting this reply to the Pike Co., L -- just to see what others > > might have to say in response to my potentially wrong information. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Valerie (Johnson) Freeman > > Tustin, California > > > > "History Never Written is Soon Forgotten" > > ~~Wally Smith, Campbell Co., GA Gen Web Coordinator > > > > > Valerie, > > > I'm just now reading all my Pike County roll call notes and > noticed > > > we > > > have a match in one spot. I am also a descendant of Robert A. Allen, > > > through his daughter, Mary Ann, born 1824. Do you have a list of all > > > Robert's children? I do not, and wasn't aware Mary Ann had a brother > named > > > Joseph T. Allen. > > > What else do you have on this branch of the Allen family? There > are > > > lots of Allens in this county, and even another Robert about the same > age > > > as Robert A. 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