You, of course, have not included any dates at all so those willing to help and who do not immediately recognize this cluster of names cannot offer much help. Nevertheless, I offer the following. If your Helms bunch are white, there is a chance that they came from around what is now Mecklenburg Co NC about 1830 give or take a few years. This means though that they could have been in SC near Mecklenburg Co NC or in an adjacent county in NC. I forget the details or how these county boundaries changed during the period of time in which you would be interested, but they would all be on the SC/NC state line not far from Charlotte, NC. I tracked Helms some years back because they moved from that area of NC/SC in a cluster with my Ritch ancestors to Muscogee, Harris, and Talbot counties GA and settled near Upatoi, GA. Also there were some Cryes, and other families with them on this move. I forget the details though. If any were alive in 1930 or before, perhaps you can find one or more of your Helms in the Census (don't know what years though to help you look because you gave no dates). But I am willing to bet that as you trace them back you will find their ancestors, if not them, in the censuses in that area of NC/SC that I mentioned above. If you are relatively new at Census search you will be happy to know that the 1850 Muscogee Co GA Census for that area around Upatoi is quite extraordinary in that the enumerator actually put the County of birth if it were in GA and sometimes the County of birth if it were in another state. So if you are lucky enough to get your Helms back to the 1850 Muscogee Co GA Census and if they are the same bunch of Helms that I think they are you will find them in the 1850 Census and might be told the County of birth for some of them up in NC/SC. By the way, I think that some kind soul has transcribed the 1850 Muscogee Co GA Census and Index and posted in on the Muscogee Co GA Web-site. Good luck. Franklin > -----Original Message----- > From: Henry Bryant [mailto:htb1009@wwgap.net] > Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 7:47 AM > To: GAMUSCOG-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GAMUSCOGEE] Helms > > Looking for information of Lee A. Helms. Born in the vicinty > of Columbus Ga. Father, Jack, half brothers B.F., Wade and > Robert Helms, all of Columbus Ga.and J.E. Helms of Phenix City,Ala. > Marjorie Helms Bryant > > > ==== GAMUSCOG Mailing List ==== > Visit the Muscogee GAGenWeb Archives > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ga/muscogee.htm >