This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Xd.2ADE/616.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Betty, Just found your reply, my Josephine had sisters named Frances & Ellen,brothers William & Jefferson. Know other info. so far. Wanda

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Xd.2ADE/1337.1 Message Board Post: There is a listing in the 1889 city directory for a Mrs. A.T. Gann; wid Henry C; res 1317 2nd av

I cannot bring up this Digest anymore . Please cancel for me at the present time. I get a message that it has been deleted .because it is unsafe......I'll redo it later. I've just had my computer reupdated and probably something messed up there. Thanks, Rhester@greenlynk.com.----- Original Message ----- From: <GAMUSCOG-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <GAMUSCOG-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 9:00 AM Subject: GAMUSCOG-D Digest V03 #179

Muscogee Genealogical Society Friday August 22, 2003 a.. MGS Field Trip a.. Friday, August 22, 2003 b.. All day field trip to the new Georgia Archives c.. Departure time: 8:00 AM d.. Meeting place: Wal-Mart parking lot on Airport Thruway (behind Shoney's), Columbus, GA. We will carpool to the Archives. e.. Registration: Email Callie McGinnis or call her at (706) 322-3175. Saturday Sept. 27, 2003 a.. MGS Meeting a.. Circle your calendars now! First meeting of the new season will be Saturday, September 27th. Place and program to be announced.

Marta - a Normal School is an old name for a state teachers college. Pat

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hughes, Byrd, Jones,Brewer Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Xd.2ADE/1349 Message Board Post: Daughter of Jess Hughes and Cordia Jones. She was given up for adoption by her parents and apperantly adopted by a Byrd family. She was at her parents funerals in 1968. She is thought to have been in the FT Benning, Ga area. We have beensearching for this family for over a 100 years. Jess was born in 1898. His father was murdered in OK in 1902 and Hannah, Jess's mother died in 1905. Calvin and Kizzie Brewer Jones raised the family. There were Root children from Hannah's previous marriage also raised by the Jones. This is all we know. I would like to find my cousin.

Does anyone know what a "Normal School" was and where it would have been located? Was this the early equivalent to our high school or our junior collages?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Xd.2ADE/1348 Message Board Post: I just posted a class picture from 1923. It is on the Do You remember section of my site. Pictures of Lake Juniper are on the Just Plain Intersting Page. Gone and Almost Forgotten Georgia http://www.angelfire.com/weird2/georgia

Hi all, I got this from another list. You may find the following URL of interest: http://www.stellar-one.com/copyright_concepts/fundamentals_gene.htm Happy family hunting, kemis massey CC - Muscogee and Chattahoochee Counties, GA Researching: DUKE, EVANS, HICKEY, MAYS, ROSAMOND, SONGER, and CAMP for me Researching: BROOKS, CHAMBERS, MASSEY, FOUNTAIN, and SMITH for my hubbie and CLAPP Factory Cemetery in Columbus, GA for preservation purposes

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Xd.2ADE/1347 Message Board Post: For anyone who is interested, I am starting a section on the Do You Remember link on my site to post class pictures for anyone who wants to e mail them to me. I will need the year and name of the school.It would be great for people to identify as many of the students as possible. The first picture is on the main page of my site. Gone and Almost Forgotten Georgia http://www.angelfire.com/weird2/georgia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Xd.2ADE/706.1.2 Message Board Post: Hi Judy, I believe we went to the same church, Calvary Baptist Church. I would like to exchange information with you on our Crouch lines. Please e-mail me at benc32@charter.net. Thanks. Wayne & Winnett Crouch

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Crouch Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Xd.2ADE/232.87.192.270.417.1 Message Board Post: Hi, I am also interested in Thomas Crouch, Joseph Crouch, and their brother George Crouch. I would like to exchange info with you. Please e-mail me at benc32@charter.net. Thank you. Winnett Crouch

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: DOSTER-WALLACE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Xd.2ADE/1346 Message Board Post: My ggrandparents, WILBUR / WILLIAM / W.D. DOSTER (b Feb., 1841 Coweta Co, Ga.; d. 22 March, 1922 Elmore Co. Al.) and PRUDENCE M. WALLACE DOSTER (b. 22 May, 1839 in Ga., d 9 August, 1914, Elmore Co. Al. ) were in Columbus, Ga. in 1865 thru part of 1870's. My great aunt, MOLLIE E. DOSTER, was born in Columbus in January 1865. My grandmother, CARRIE JANE DOSTER, was born in Columbus in March, 1867. Prudence's parents, ABRAHAM WALLACE and NANCY WALLACE lived with them(probably because William Doster was badly injured in the war and had problems finding work). They attended St. Luke Methodist Church during this time. St Lukes records for this period of time were almost all lost and there is no church record of them. They are not on the 1870 Muscogee census. I have heard there are city directories and a newspaper for this period of time. Are these available where I can search them? Where? How? Does anyone know anything about this family? I would appreciate any help you can give me. God Bless Linda Heath Mesquite, Texas

Could you also share with me any information on Crispin? This is also my line. Thanks so much for your time and help. Larry On 11 Aug 2003 17:53:38 -0600 bentleaf@txucom.net writes: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Davis, Bentley, Posey > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Xd.2ADE/742.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Could you possibly share with me the descendants of Crispin Davis? > I have Ann Davis who married Mr. Bentley in Monroe County, GA and > they lived in Butts county as well. > > > ==== GAMUSCOG Mailing List ==== > Visit the Muscogee GAGenWeb Archives > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ga/muscogee.htm > We need your materials! > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ADERHOLD, HUDSON, JUDAH, LIVINGSTON, MOURNING, WINKLER Classification: Marriage Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Xd.2ADE/1345 Message Board Post: [The following wedding announcement probably appeared in the local Columbus, GA, newspaper in February 1946:] “Miss ADERHOLD and Mr. JUDATH [sic – read “JUDAH”] Are Married Saturday Evening A simple ceremony marked the wedding of Miss Vivian Lorene ADERHOLD and Wilbur E. JUDATH [sic] which was solemnized Saturday evening at the couple’s new home on the Warm Springs road. Rev. Mr. John R. WINKLER read the marriage lines before members of the family and a few friends. White glaioli and ferns formed the decorations. Mrs. John MUNRO was her sister’s matron of honor and Mr. MUNRO served as best man. Mrs. MUNRO wore blue printed crepe with camellias in her hair. The bride was lovely wearing powder blue crepe with short veil caught to the hair with gardenias and she carried a nosegay of gardenias. Immediately following the ceremony there was an informal reception. Mrs. W. R. ADERHOLD, mother of the bride, wore grey crepe with corsage of pink roses. The punch bowl was presided over by Mrs. S. MOURING, who wore aqua crepe with camellias. The lovely young bride is the daughter of Mrs. and Mrs. W. R. ADERHOLD, of Phenix City. She was graduated from Central high school in 1944. Mr. JUDATH [sic] is the son of Mrs. and Mrs. John D. JUDATH [sic] of Chipley [Douglas Co.], Fla. and is now engaged in business in Columbus where he and his bride will live on their return from a wedding trip to be planned en route.” Separate certificate: “This certifies that Wilbur JUDAH and Vivian ADERHOLD were united in marriage at Columbus, Georgia According to the Ordinance of God and the Laws of the State of Georgia on the 9th day of February in the year of our Lord 1946. John Park WINKLER, Minister Witnesses C. O. LIVINGSTON C. L. HUDSON John MUNRO” [Vivian was my mother’s first cousin. I am interested to know the denominational affiliation of Rev. WINKLER and what church(es) he served, as well as the identities of Mrs. S. MOURNING, C. O. LIVINGSTON, and C. L. HUDSON. Thanks - John <retrofit@flash.net>]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ADERHOLD, COLLINS, GALLOPS, JUDAH, LESTER, MUNRO, NEWSOM, SHOEMAKER Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Xd.2ADE/1344 Message Board Post: The following obituary probably appeared in the local Columbus newspaper in July 1950. The clipping I have has a corner torn off. "William R. ADERHOLD William R. ADERHOLD, [58, a] machinist, died today at [his resi]dence on Wrights road, [Phenix] City, following a brief [illness.] He was a native of Car[roll county,] Ga., the son of the late [John R.] ADERHOLD and Darinda NE[WSOM] ADERHOLD. He was a mem[ber of the] Wilson William lodge of M[asons]. He is survived by his [wife] Mrs. Jettie C. ADERHOLD; [two] sons, James H. ADERHOLD, [__] the U. S. Army at Castle Air Force base, Calif. and William R. ADERHOLD Jr., Phenix City; two daughters, Mrs. J. C. MUNRO, Phenix City and Mrs. Wilbur JUDAH, Columbus; two brothers, Archie ADERHOLD, Juniper, Ga., and A. L. ADERHOLD, Columbus; three sisters, Mrs. G. H. SHOEMAKER, Upatoi, Mrs. C. J. GALLOPS, Tampa, and Mrs. T. G. LESTER, Dadeville, Ala.; eight grandchildren and several nieces and nephews. Funeral plans will be announced by Britton & Dobbs." [According to family Bible records and notes, William Robert ADERHOLD was born 16 JAN 1892 at Banning, Carroll Co, GA, and died 09 JUL 1950 in Phenix City, Russell Co, AL. Called Robert, he married 23 OCT 1909 in Phenix City, Lee Co, AL to Jettie Belle COLLINS (1891-1976). He was my mother’s uncle. – John <retrofit@flash.net>]

This is what I found on search for Drake, Al There were 5 matches returned. Please choose one. Results 1 through 5 shown: <A HREF="http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?location=QlmLDJknAh%2b7kbD1dMxQM4LA6%2f8rZ2q6dtpnbcsKqAF1qkfGMOCru0%2fcqUdTpaBImIJFWfQzsKQ%3d&address=&city=Drake&state=Al&zipcode=&country=US&addtohistory=">Drake Cove Branch, AL, US</A> <A HREF="http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?location=nip8r2yywzAw5gptyBv8GF2eUn0vIexOAXboibCgOlO65KSeT23be9dRid%2b5sVQtafluVLaS52A%3d&address=&city=Drake&state=Al&zipcode=&country=US&addtohistory=">Drake Creek, AL, US</A> <A HREF="http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?location=9W4tkm2M8RropPf6Gq2tEELGDFdT2FN2uqSNgssUSoWGNEMnH3liBP%2fo7BsVE2aGeQ%2f38TeRoQ8%3d&address=&city=Drake&state=Al&zipcode=&country=US&addtohistory=">Drake Island, AL, US</A> <A HREF="http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?location=uJoPLmgsBypBtt9k%2fTMw%2boqrtpzJfPELsNfN1gYKLC2vqSm66oDIKWCLQSiCG3SaY%2bVEpo3C9hQ%3d&address=&city=Drake&state=Al&zipcode=&country=US&addtohistory=">Drake Mountain, AL, US</A> <A HREF="http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?location=Qbm0DlEuo%2b2H8CiMmqsRS3opWLArdFLefcPjczPjvGqnGFM9D63hZylzvYJW6obG2FpiO7%2fYOsk%3d&address=&city=Drake&state=Al&zipcode=&country=US&addtohistory=">Drake Mountain, AL, US</A> « <A HREF="http://www.mapquest.com/maps/%3E">New Search</A> Genealogy: Collecting dead relatives and sometimes a live cousin! Genealogy: Where you confuse the dead and irritate the living.

Pam. White people for the most of it has kept up with their ancestors from the git go. From my ancestors in Salam, Alabama, both paternal and maternal were born in 1794 and 1797 They were in Salem , Alabama by the 1830s. On this set of ancestors alone we have letters, deeds, oral stories, death certs., marriages lisc. Church memberships, Tax list. Most of us thru our ancestors have been clinging to Genealogy for two hundred years each generation after the other saw that our heritage was passed down. This has been a blessing for us. However it wasn't this way for the black people. . You are just now starting on the ground floor and it is up to you and your children and future generations to write down and pass on information just like our white ancestors did for us. It make take you a hundred years to get where we are to day. But, it starts with you filling in all the blank pages. Just a suggestion and not to sound like a racist,but maybe it would help if you started your own black genelogy if you haven't already and all join together in seeing the the truth as you see it and no one can change it then you wouldn't have your feelings hurt. Maybe genealogy is something we will walk together hand in hand and the enter our herritage as we lived it. This is what you said, I (you) was grief stricken to see the under-representation of Afro Americans. You had only seen two Afro Americans in the book. You didn't check to see just how many other Afro American wrote their family History in. You said, My Gr Gr Gr Grandmother's birth date was shown as 1870 when it was 1815. (Iknow because of several documents I have, including the 1870 Census in Russell County, Ala. where she was the cook on the Sterling Boykin plantation.) My Grandmother's father, according to her death certificate was J. C. Drake of Drake Cove Alabama. I can only assume that Mr. Drake was white that they instead chose to printJ. C. Duke.(This was a racist remark) You might not have meant it to sound racist, but it did to me. Maybe that's how some white people come across when they are call racist. I didn't find a Drake , Alabama,but I did find a Drake Cove where J. C. Drake lived and there was a story of the Johnson's Gang which I sent you. Mr. J. C Drake had three sons who rode with the Johnson Gang. They were hunted by the Union Army. I sent you all the information I found on the Drakes. Something must have happen because the last information was blocked from your email address. I thought you would be interested in the Drake's family because you say one of your ancestors was a mullato child of his and his family history would be yours on the white half. I was trying to give you the information and how to find it so the next time you write for a book you could send in the information in on your black and white blood. I wish you well in the next hundred years.

Thank you for the responses. I've been very busy with work and travel, but could not "close the book" on this one without setting the record straight. - I repeat what I said in my orig email, that I appreciate having my family story placed in the book. I do appreciate the work that went into the book. It was a massive undertaking. - I still hope that greater accuracy & care goes into future books as they are historical records for generations yet to come. - In my original email I did not say my Gr grandmother died in Ala. She died in Michigan, and yes, I do have her death certificate which says her farther was J. C. Drake of Drake, Ala. I was told through internet sources that Drake, Ala was probably Drake's Cove, South East of Huntsville, Al. She was born according to records I have in 1874. I do have information on J. C. Drake given me by some Drake family members and the Drake internet site. - I never used the word "racist" anywhere in my orig email. - And yes, I am still hurt that in a 575 page historical book on Russell County I only saw 2 pictures of Afro Americans. I sent a copy of my Gr grandmother's in (in good condition) but it was not used. But the deeper issue is why so few blacks? And asking the question is not placing blame. My family was in Russell County in 1870 on a plantation where many other blacks lived and carried the name of the owner - Boykin. And this is just my family. In my research of over 25 years, I know many more were there. Maybe some of the articles in the book are from black families, but in my experience it's possible that many stories were not submitted because there is still a lot of pain and sometimes shame of what happened in the past. Some don't want to remember or talk about it. Finding anything on Afro Americans is extremely difficult before 1890. Cemeteries exist, but rarely are there headstones. 1870 is the only census that lists first and last names, etc., etc. Whateve! r the reason for the low representation it is still unfortunate. Pam

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Davis, Bentley, Posey, Byrd Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Xd.2ADE/742.5 Message Board Post: I have Posey family in Taylor County, GA. I have several years of Taylor County Quarterlies and I will be glad to look up your Coulter and Posey family in them. Also, I have Ann Davis married Willis Bentley in Monroe County, GA and lived in Butts county as well. She may have been a daughter of Crispin Davis? I believe we corresponded a few years ago. I was sick for a long time and did not do any research or letter writing. I also emailed Mr Rhodes who answered your query a few years ago. Maybe he will send me names of children of Crispin Davis. let me know if you get this. Are you still researching?