New to the list so thought I would toss the information out. John Marshall Harkins b: 14 July 1859 Spring Place, Murray, GA d: 17 July 1945 Miami, Ottawa Co., OK m: Jan 19, 1882 Gordon Co., GA wife Sara Jane Pulley b: 26 September 1866 Spring Place, Murray, GA d: 02 November 1938 Miami, Ottawa Co., OK unable to locate Sara Jane in 1880 census parents Will and Amanda/Jane moved to Gilmer Co by 1900 Census First 2 or 3 children probably born in Spring Place, GA Fannie Abbie Harkins b: 07 April 1884 not with family in 1900 census Thomas Oliver Harkins b: 14 May 1885 Spring Place, Murray Co., GA d: 20 January 1967 Coffeyville, KS John Tillman Harkins b: 19 April 1888 not with family in 1900 census I have inherited most of this information without supporting documents. Fortunately it was started long ago. John Marshall's parents have been an unknown for a long time but it appears a cousin found him in the 1860 census in NC, Cherokee County, Shooting Creek District under the name Hawkins: Tilman Hawkins (Harkins) age 21, Mechanic, born in Haywood County, N.C. Wife Jane, age 22, born in Murray County, Georgia. Daughter Dovina (Vina ?), age 6, born in Murray County, Son John, age 1, born 1859 Murray Co. Family story is there was a younger daughter named Mandy. I have no other information on Vina (Dovina) or Mandy Tilman is not found again after the war. Have not found civil war records on him. I think I found John Marshall in 1880 in Doolittle, Murray, Georgia in a probably unrelated household (Leonard) Not sure where to search for any of them in 1870 - probably my next task. I am searching this from California so the distance and unfamiliarity make it more ... uh ... interesting. Any help or suggestions are appreciated. Catherine