If you understood sorrowfullness over prejudice or anything else construed as a grudge, then you are mistaken. Most of my ancestors were pioneers. They settled all over. I really can't find any of my ancestors coming in to this country after about 1720, but of course, I haven't found all of them, either. The fact is, I'm proud of my English ancestors who colonized Maryland and was worrying about how he, a major, was going to get supplies before they ran out in the French - Indian war. I'm proud of my Rev. War lines; including the combatants, the patriots and patriotress, and the chaplain. I'm proud of my Tories and NC Regulators. I'm proud of my Dutch VAN PELTs who were in New Amsterdam (later Long Island and Staten Island) in the early 1600s and the French LENOIR who was there 60 years later before 1700 and whose descendants have counties and towns named for them all over NC and TN. All of them did what they thought was best for them and theirs at any given moment. The thing is, nobody can judge what any one person is thinking by one statement that he / she makes. I heard no grudges voiced. Remorse at some things that happened that ideally shouldn't have happened? Yes. Elaine Blackman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Havens" <dhavens@bellsouth.net> To: <GAMURRAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [MURRAY] Buckners > Actually, our government still "shoves" people off their land. If you have > a piece of property the government thinks it needs, they condemn it, then > take it. It is called "progress" but in real life, it is the same thing. We > just don't kill them now. I know one individual whose farm dates back to > the original land grants and his farm was in the way of a road widening and > the house his grand parents built (this person is 80) was in the way. Guess > what, it was condemned. They did let him have the house moved to another > part of the farm but took what they needed. > > The point is, we cannot carry a grudge over something we had nothing to do > with or something we have no power over. We live in a wonderful, free > country. Enjoy it. > > I am hearing a lot of anger over something that happened a long time ago, > not from you but several others. Hopefully, I took them the wrong way. I > have Indian blood from both sides and I am proud of who I am. Let us get on > with finding our heritage and be proud of the brave men and women who > settled this country. > > I have just returned from Seattle (driving) and every mountain we came over > and all the rough land, all I could think about was the brave pioneers and > how proud we all should be of our forefathers. > > Thanks for letting me have my say so. > Dot > ----- Original Message ----- > From: carla <carla@ga.prestige.net> > To: <GAMURRAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 10:19 PM > Subject: Re: [MURRAY] Buckners > > > > Well, actually it wasn't for the "sake of settlers", but for the sake of > > GOLD....Yes, the 1st gold stike in the US and location of the 1st US > > Mint....Dahlonega, GA...now the Administration Bldg. for North Georgia > > College and State University. The Cherokee sold the land to the US. > There > > was a great deal of division among the tribe over this, of course, history > > is always written by the victors, so who will ever really know what > > happened. But, the purest gold ever discovered in the world is in the old > > Cherokee lands. > > cb > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <ChaseMonty@aol.com> > > To: <GAMURRAY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 6:02 PM > > Subject: Re: [MURRAY] Buckners > > > > > > > Murray was formed in 1832 - from the last Cherokee Land Lottery - when > > they > > > were shoved off their native land for "the sake of settlers" - In other > > words > > > we stole it from them? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GAMURRAY Mailing List ==== > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > -- Copyright 2001 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > Post to List: GAMURRAY-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > > Unsubscribe request To: GAMURRAY-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GAMURRAY Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2001 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: GAMURRAY-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: GAMURRAY-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > ==== GAMURRAY Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2001 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: GAMURRAY-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: GAMURRAY-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >