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Does anyone have any information about the folling people? S.N. Henderson b-3-13-1852, G.P. Henderson died 1854, E.P. Henderson b-12-5-1858, S.N. Henderson b- 12-28-1860, S.C. Henderson b-8-18-1871 . These are all children of Geo. W. Henderson and wife Nannie T. Henderson who lived at Spring Place Ga., for a while. Any information on parents or children greatly appreciated. Thanks Ed. H.

Margaret Ann Tyler, Born in 1819. She married George Harris of Lumpkin Co on 6/22/1839. They had a daughter Nancy Penelope Harris born 11/7/1858 in Catoosa Co., or Murray Co. I am trying to get information of Margaret Ann Tyler whom may have been part indian. Her maiden name was Arp and we do not know her Mother's maiden name which is where we are guessing the indian ancestory is. Please help me if you can.

Where is Beaverdale, GA? There is a Beaverdale Rd. in northern Whitfield Co. is this the area you refer to? My guess that the Mt Pleasant Rose wanted was in Gordon Co. was based on the fact that the other places in her original query were in south Murray and Whitfield and in northern Gordon. -----Original Message----- From: Lanna78655@aol.com <Lanna78655@aol.com> To: GAMURRAY-L@rootsweb.com <GAMURRAY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, September 28, 2002 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [MURRAY] Bethesda Baptist Cemetery >In a message dated 9/28/2002 12:23:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >bkinney@alltel.net writes: > > >> The Murray Co. Heritage book mentions a Mt. Pleasant Church only in >> Tennga in the north end of the county and Bethesda Church is not mentioned >> at all, so my guess is both churches are in Gordon county > >There is a Mount Pleasant Church and cemetery in Beaverdale Ga. My grand and > >great grand parents are buried there. > > > > >==== GAMURRAY Mailing List ==== >--- Author Retains Copyright --- >-- Copyright 2002 Author -- All Rights Reserved >Post to List: GAMURRAY-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com >Unsubscribe request To: GAMURRAY-L-request@rootsweb.com >ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

In a message dated 9/28/2002 12:23:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bkinney@alltel.net writes: > The Murray Co. Heritage book mentions a Mt. Pleasant Church only in > Tennga in the north end of the county and Bethesda Church is not mentioned > at all, so my guess is both churches are in Gordon county There is a Mount Pleasant Church and cemetery in Beaverdale Ga. My grand and great grand parents are buried there.

I apologize for waiting weeks to reply to this. I don't check my Murray e-mails often. I am a resident of Murray Co. Spring Place is on hwy 225 South in Murray Co. Resaca is now an area that has postal routes in south Murray and north Gordon Co. Tilton is in south Whitfield County west of the Conasauga river that serves as the line between Whiffeld and Murray. Redbud is farther south, just north of Calhoun, the County seat of Gordon Co. The Murray Co. Heritage book mentions a Mt. Pleasant Church only in Tennga in the north end of the county and Bethesda Church is not mentioned at all, so my guess is both churches are in Gordon county. It is true there are Spring Place roads in several different places. Hwy 225 is called Spring Place Road in Cleveland, Bradley Co. Tennessee, just north of Murray Co., but I think this is the area you want. I hope this was helpful. -----Original Message----- From: Urbudrose@aol.com <Urbudrose@aol.com> To: GAMURRAY-L@rootsweb.com <GAMURRAY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:46 AM Subject: [MURRAY] Bethesda Baptist Cemetery >Holden Russell Parsons and his wife, Penelope Taylor lived in Resaca, >Springplace, Post Valley and near Tilton in the late 1800's. Their obituary > >in the Springplace Jimplecute states that the Rev. W. T. Hamby preached at >their funerals at Mt. Pleasant. They are buried in Redbud at the Bethesda >Baptist Cemetery. > >Do any of these names ring a bell to anyone? Does the Bethesda Baptist >Church keep records of those buried in their cemetery? I am not sure where >Springplace, Post Valley and Tilton are located and how to get to these >cities. Is Mt. Pleasant a church or place? Any leads would be greatly >appreciated. I know I have asked many qustions. One thing seems to lead to > >another. >Regards and thanks for your help. >Rose > > > > >==== GAMURRAY Mailing List ==== >--- Author Retains Copyright --- >-- Copyright 2002 Author -- All Rights Reserved >Post to List: GAMURRAY-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com >Unsubscribe request To: GAMURRAY-L-request@rootsweb.com >ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

As you state, blood does not make a Cherokee. Its all in the heart. The eastern Band has lots of Full Bloods at Robbinsville, NC at Snowbird. They won't mix with the white eyes. Leo, Charlie or Tsali was the Indian in question that hid them out in the Smoky Mountains. He was a good and courageous Indian. Tsimi Childers richard marvel wrote: > you should not belive everything people write in books and the eastern > cherokee are just as mixed as us in the west as far as full bloods go there > are way more in the west then in the east witch means nothing to the > cherokee one drop is all you need to be a tribal member and it has always > been that way, my people worked for james vann at springplace before it was > ga and they had mixed with the whites for 100 years then most cherokees east > and west are mixed that is not a bad thing. > Lldurham@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/13/02 1:43:20 AM, JJack26899@aol.com writes: > > << Did I read in my search that they were forced to march to OK, but some > hid > out and did not go? Jack > >> > > There are likely others more knowledgeable than I about this, but here's my > understanding. All Cherokees were rounded up. Seems unlikely that a few > stragglers weren't missed, however - it was a big territory. Some escaped > along the Trail, dropping off in Kentucky, Missouri, etc. A larger party > escaped to the mountains. They were led by a fellow (someone will surely > know > his name, he is an Eastern Cherokee national hero) who intervened when a > soldier was molesting a Cherokee woman during the time those who had been > located were being held in pens awaiting Removal. This Cherokee man killed > the soldier, then escaped into, as I said, the mountains. Over time, others > joined him, including another man whose story I don't know, but who likewise > > had killed someone. Eventually there were about 400 Cherokees who made their > > way to these two men. The Removal went forward. The Cherokees en masse were > driven like cattle to Indian Territory. In the meantime, the hunt went on > for > the two guys and the other escapees. Eventually the government gave up. It > had accomplished its primary goal and the cost of the continued search > outweighed its value to the government. So the government said if the two > men > would turn themelves in, the others could stay. It entered into a treaty > with > them which created the Qualla Boundary, a reservation, essentially, and home > > today to those who descend from the 400. The two men turned themselves in > and > were hung. > > >From the perspective of those of us who research, one of the more > interesting > things about the Eastern Cherokee (those who reside on the Boundary) is that > > they did not intermarry to the same extent with white people as did the > Western Cherokee, and so are "purer" in appearance to the early Cherokee > than > are the WC. > > Looking at your second post, someone seems to have answered already but it > hasn't made it to my server. The story can be found in Grave Steele > Woodward's book, The Cherokees. I have recited it from memory, however. Feel > > free to do further research and substitute more factual information if you > find it. > > Leo > > ==== GAMURRAY Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2002 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: GAMURRAY-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: GAMURRAY-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! News - Today's headlines > > ==== GAMURRAY Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2002 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: GAMURRAY-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: GAMURRAY-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

I am fairly sure that I read my account in the Murray County historical book that they sell in Chatsworth. I read about Springplace, the Vann House, etc. Jack

Mt Pleasant Church and Rd are off hwy 140 in N Bartow County as is Springplace Rd. Dot H ----- Original Message ----- From: <Urbudrose@aol.com> To: <GAMURRAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:42 AM Subject: [MURRAY] Bethesda Baptist Cemetery > Holden Russell Parsons and his wife, Penelope Taylor lived in Resaca, > Springplace, Post Valley and near Tilton in the late 1800's. Their obituary > > in the Springplace Jimplecute states that the Rev. W. T. Hamby preached at > their funerals at Mt. Pleasant. They are buried in Redbud at the Bethesda > Baptist Cemetery. > > Do any of these names ring a bell to anyone? Does the Bethesda Baptist > Church keep records of those buried in their cemetery? I am not sure where > Springplace, Post Valley and Tilton are located and how to get to these > cities. Is Mt. Pleasant a church or place? Any leads would be greatly > appreciated. I know I have asked many qustions. One thing seems to lead to > > another. > Regards and thanks for your help. > Rose > > > > > ==== GAMURRAY Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2002 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: GAMURRAY-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: GAMURRAY-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

There is also a Springplace Rd in North Bartow County off of highway 140 between 411 and 41 highways. Every county probably has one. Dot H ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Lewis" <gslewis@alltel.net> To: <GAMURRAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [MURRAY] Maple Grove Cemetery location > The Maple Grove Church Road in Murray County is also called Spring Place > Road. In fact I believe that on the Highway 136 end of the road there is a > sign that says Spring Place Road. I don't know why because it isn't very > close to Spring Place.----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paula" <pkeith@alltel.net> > To: <GAMURRAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 8:53 PM > Subject: Re: [MURRAY] Maple Grove Cemetery location > > > > Hi Randall, > > Many thanks. I had one person wanting to know where it was. We knew > there > > was one down there but didn't know if that was Murray or Gordon or if > there > > was one in both places. I will pass the directions along on this one. > For > > some reason we were looking for one on Spring Place Rd. > > What we really need is a list of the burials for our web site at > > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ga/county/gordon/ > > and thought if we could find out where it was we could inventory it when > the > > weather got cool enough. If I get a specific request I sure appreciate > you > > being willing to check it for me. > > Thank you, > > Paula > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Randall G. Brown" <rgbrown@alltel.net> > > To: <GAMURRAY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:55 PM > > Subject: Re: [MURRAY] Maple Grove Cemetery location > > > > > > > There is a Maple Grove Baptist Church Cemetery located just outside of > > > Murray County in Gordon County Georgia, the most simple directions are > > from > > > U. S. Highway 411 south, turn east onto Highway 136 , travel > approximately > > > five miles turn right onto Maple Grove Church Road, the church is > located > > on > > > the right about 200 yards. I have inventoried that cemetery if someone > > needs > > > a specific check I would be glad to help. > > > Randall > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GAMURRAY Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2002 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: GAMURRAY-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: GAMURRAY-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > ==== GAMURRAY Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2002 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: GAMURRAY-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: GAMURRAY-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

The Maple Grove Church Road in Murray County is also called Spring Place Road. In fact I believe that on the Highway 136 end of the road there is a sign that says Spring Place Road. I don't know why because it isn't very close to Spring Place.----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula" <pkeith@alltel.net> To: <GAMURRAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [MURRAY] Maple Grove Cemetery location > Hi Randall, > Many thanks. I had one person wanting to know where it was. We knew there > was one down there but didn't know if that was Murray or Gordon or if there > was one in both places. I will pass the directions along on this one. For > some reason we were looking for one on Spring Place Rd. > What we really need is a list of the burials for our web site at > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ga/county/gordon/ > and thought if we could find out where it was we could inventory it when the > weather got cool enough. If I get a specific request I sure appreciate you > being willing to check it for me. > Thank you, > Paula > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Randall G. Brown" <rgbrown@alltel.net> > To: <GAMURRAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:55 PM > Subject: Re: [MURRAY] Maple Grove Cemetery location > > > > There is a Maple Grove Baptist Church Cemetery located just outside of > > Murray County in Gordon County Georgia, the most simple directions are > from > > U. S. Highway 411 south, turn east onto Highway 136 , travel approximately > > five miles turn right onto Maple Grove Church Road, the church is located > on > > the right about 200 yards. I have inventoried that cemetery if someone > needs > > a specific check I would be glad to help. > > Randall > > > > > > ==== GAMURRAY Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2002 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: GAMURRAY-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: GAMURRAY-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

Want information of Nancy Bynum as possible relative of my Ggrandfather Wm. Henry Adair Bynum who married Elizabeth J. Nicely Bynum about 1851. JBynum1061@aol.com.

Thank you for looking. Maybe I will find her some day. Pat Jackson Westerfield

I found no Jackson's buried at Maple Grove. There is a Jackson Family Cemetery located on Evergreen Road close to Maple Grove , there is only a few markers but several unmarked burials there. ----- Original Message ----- From: <PWesterfie@aol.com> To: <GAMURRAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [MURRAY] Maple Grove Cemetery location > My grandfather Benjamin Franklin Jackson lived in Springplace. He married a > woman be the last name of Green. She died in the late 1870's. Do you have > any Jackson's listed in that cemetery. She would have been born around > 1840. > Pat Jackson Westerfield > > > > > ==== GAMURRAY Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2002 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: GAMURRAY-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: GAMURRAY-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

My grandfather Benjamin Franklin Jackson lived in Springplace. He married a woman be the last name of Green. She died in the late 1870's. Do you have any Jackson's listed in that cemetery. She would have been born around 1840. Pat Jackson Westerfield

you should not belive everything people write in books and the eastern cherokee are just as mixed as us in the west as far as full bloods go there are way more in the west then in the east witch means nothing to the cherokee one drop is all you need to be a tribal member and it has always been that way, my people worked for james vann at springplace before it was ga and they had mixed with the whites for 100 years then most cherokees east and west are mixed that is not a bad thing. Lldurham@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 9/13/02 1:43:20 AM, JJack26899@aol.com writes: << Did I read in my search that they were forced to march to OK, but some hid out and did not go? Jack >> There are likely others more knowledgeable than I about this, but here's my understanding. All Cherokees were rounded up. Seems unlikely that a few stragglers weren't missed, however - it was a big territory. Some escaped along the Trail, dropping off in Kentucky, Missouri, etc. A larger party escaped to the mountains. They were led by a fellow (someone will surely know his name, he is an Eastern Cherokee national hero) who intervened when a soldier was molesting a Cherokee woman during the time those who had been located were being held in pens awaiting Removal. This Cherokee man killed the soldier, then escaped into, as I said, the mountains. Over time, others joined him, including another man whose story I don't know, but who likewise had killed someone. Eventually there were about 400 Cherokees who made their way to these two men. The Removal went forward. The Cherokees en masse were driven like cattle to Indian Territory. In the meantime, the hunt went on for the two guys and the other escapees. Eventually the government gave up. It had accomplished its primary goal and the cost of the continued search outweighed its value to the government. So the government said if the two men would turn themelves in, the others could stay. It entered into a treaty with them which created the Qualla Boundary, a reservation, essentially, and home today to those who descend from the 400. The two men turned themselves in and were hung. >From the perspective of those of us who research, one of the more interesting things about the Eastern Cherokee (those who reside on the Boundary) is that they did not intermarry to the same extent with white people as did the Western Cherokee, and so are "purer" in appearance to the early Cherokee than are the WC. Looking at your second post, someone seems to have answered already but it hasn't made it to my server. The story can be found in Grave Steele Woodward's book, The Cherokees. I have recited it from memory, however. Feel free to do further research and substitute more factual information if you find it. Leo ==== GAMURRAY Mailing List ==== --- Author Retains Copyright --- -- Copyright 2002 Author -- All Rights Reserved Post to List: GAMURRAY-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com Unsubscribe request To: GAMURRAY-L-request@rootsweb.com ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines

In a message dated 9/13/02 1:43:20 AM, JJack26899@aol.com writes: << Did I read in my search that they were forced to march to OK, but some hid out and did not go? Jack >> There are likely others more knowledgeable than I about this, but here's my understanding. All Cherokees were rounded up. Seems unlikely that a few stragglers weren't missed, however - it was a big territory. Some escaped along the Trail, dropping off in Kentucky, Missouri, etc. A larger party escaped to the mountains. They were led by a fellow (someone will surely know his name, he is an Eastern Cherokee national hero) who intervened when a soldier was molesting a Cherokee woman during the time those who had been located were being held in pens awaiting Removal. This Cherokee man killed the soldier, then escaped into, as I said, the mountains. Over time, others joined him, including another man whose story I don't know, but who likewise had killed someone. Eventually there were about 400 Cherokees who made their way to these two men. The Removal went forward. The Cherokees en masse were driven like cattle to Indian Territory. In the meantime, the hunt went on for the two guys and the other escapees. Eventually the government gave up. It had accomplished its primary goal and the cost of the continued search outweighed its value to the government. So the government said if the two men would turn themelves in, the others could stay. It entered into a treaty with them which created the Qualla Boundary, a reservation, essentially, and home today to those who descend from the 400. The two men turned themselves in and were hung. >From the perspective of those of us who research, one of the more interesting things about the Eastern Cherokee (those who reside on the Boundary) is that they did not intermarry to the same extent with white people as did the Western Cherokee, and so are "purer" in appearance to the early Cherokee than are the WC. Looking at your second post, someone seems to have answered already but it hasn't made it to my server. The story can be found in Grave Steele Woodward's book, The Cherokees. I have recited it from memory, however. Feel free to do further research and substitute more factual information if you find it. Leo

I think that is where I got my story....I have a older copy of the book. Jack

Did I read in my search that they were forced to march to OK, but some hid out and did not go? Jack

Hi, My name is Lisa Taylor, I joined this mailing list a couple of days ago. My connection to Murray county, GA is that my great-great-grandfather Samuel Anderson James grew up and was married there. His father Rufus M. James may be buried there in Murray county. But I've never seen anything that said where. Samuel Anderson James shows up in the 1860 census for Murray county, GA at Springplace. He was living with his parents and sister. In the 1870 census he was also in Springplace. He was living with his wife, children, and his wife's mother and siblings. 1. Rufus Marion James was born about 1818 in Blount co., TN. He married Martha Glass, born about 1823 in TN. Their children were Samuel Anderson James, born 10 Jan. 1847 in TN, and Nancy Cassandra James born abt. 1850 in either TN or GA. 2. Samuel Anderson James, born 10 Jan. 1847 in TN, married Mary Elizabeth Mobley on 15 Dec. 1867. Their children were Rufus Hill James, Mattie James, Mittie James, Ida Cassandra James, Laura James, Sarah Virginia James, William James, John Anderson James, and Lula May Bell James. Samuel A. James was a member of the Masonic Lodge and a deacon in the Baptist church. He died 2 Mar. 1926. 3. Sarah Virginia James, was my great-grandmother, by the time she was born in 14 July 1879 Samuel A. James and family had moved to Chickalah Mountain, Yell county, AR. If anyone is interested in further details please let me know. Sincerely, Lisa Taylor _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx