I found about the Georgia Virtual Vault that actually has online for FREE images of death certificates in Georgia from 1919 to 1927. The link to the site is: http://content.sos.state.ga.us/cdm4/gadeaths.php I have found several for my relatives. Liz Nash
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RossSmith53 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.georgia.counties.lincoln/1202/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Would anyone know when the New Hope Baptist Church was founded? Was it founded in Wilkes co Ga before Lincoln co Ga was formed in 1796? If it was formed in the 1780's or 1790's would the church minutes still exist from back then> Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Does anyone have any information about when they began growing tobacco in Wilkes and Lincoln Co. GA? And what other crops would they have grown? The fields are very small to have been good for growing cotton that leaches out the land quickly. I am primarily interested in what they grew prior to 1810. Are there any dates in these books about the towns beginning and ending? thank you for your time. betty in ga ----- Original Message ----- From: "GAGenWeb Archives" <archives@poppet.org> To: "galinco-l" <GAlincol@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 2:28 PM Subject: [GALINCOL] Ga-Lincoln Co. History (Lisbon) > > Lincoln County GaArchives History - Books .....Lisbon 1878 > ************************************************ > Copyright. All rights reserved. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/copyright.htm > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ga/gafiles.htm > ************************************************ > > File contributed for use in USGenWeb Archives by: > Joy Fisher sdgenweb@yahoo.com October 6, 2007, 2:28 pm > > Book Title: Dead Towns Of Georgia > > A few sleepy houses mark the spot where LISBON,* with envious eye, in > former > years viewed across Broad river the rising fortunes of Petersburg; and, > beyond > the Savannah, narrowly scanned the efforts made by Vienna to participate > in the > lucrative tobacco trade. > > [1] The original name of this village was the Town of Lincoln. See > Sibbald's > "Notes and Observations on the Pine Lands of Georgia," &c., p. 63. > Augusta, 1801. > > Additional Comments: > > Extracted from: > > THE DEAD TOWNS OF GEORGIA; > BY > CHARLES C. JONES, JR. > > FOR HERE WE HAVE NO CONTINUING CITY. > Heb.: xiii. 14 > > SAVANNAH: > MORNING NEWS STEAM PRINTING HOUSE. > 1878. > > File at: > http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ga/lincoln/history/1878/deadtown/lisbon700gms.txt > > This file has been created by a form at http://www.genrecords.org/gafiles/ > > File size: 1.2 Kb > > > If this is a Message Board gatewayed to the list, please reply to the > Message Board. The poster may not be a member of this list. > > Please remember that this is a FREE genealogy mailing list and postings of > any commercial nature are NOT permitted by RootsWeb Rules. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GALINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
Plan your calendar for Pioneer Day, scheduled for November 17, the Saturday before Thanksgiving. The Friday before will be for the school children to visit the park. Barney Zellars and Russel Reese will make their sorghum syrup from fresh squeezed sugar cane to once again delight the children. Mark Davis, the Society's blacksmith will teach the children the basics of foundry work. Miss Ann, Miss Gloria and Miss Emily will be decked out in period attire in the cabin to tell stories. Miss Mobley Ross will open the School House to a new generation of students and tell them how things used to be. The cotton gin always fascinates the children when Mister Wyatt and Mister Larry show the complete cotton cycle from seeds to shirts. Master Sawyer Jerry Stone is on a search for a worthy log to saw up for the children. Miss Flo's ladies will be cooking over an open fire to feed the kids a snack like they have never tasted before. The Friday before Pioneer Day is always so much fun and is one of the reasons all the work is worth it. Jerry and Frankie Phillips will once again have free cotton candy for children of all ages on Pioneer Day. The tractor show and free hayride are being organized by Mr. Russel and Mr. Buddy Hawes. Miss Flo reported that Buddy Hawes was working on a solution to be able to cook French fries and apple fritters at the same time. Mr. Murray Norman will have fresh apple cider for all visitors to sample. Anneice and Billy Butler's soap was a sellout last year so visitors will need to get to their black iron pot early to get a unique gift for those special names on their Christmas list. Jane McWhorter will be washing clothes over an open fire like our great-great-grandmothers did 200 years ago before the spin cycle was invented. Ben Ross reported that the ham and biscuits would be on the menu again at the Smoke House. Anyone who would like to show their quilt in the Quilt Show is encouraged to call Miss Nobie Dean Hawes. Keeper of the cooking fire, Forrest Inglett, will be tending the fire around the oak tree stump near the 200 year old cabin. Miss Linette reminded the nimble jointed that turnip green picking time was coming up. This promises to be a wonderful, fun day in Lincoln County.
Lincoln County GaArchives History - Books .....Lisbon 1878 ************************************************ Copyright. All rights reserved. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/copyright.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ga/gafiles.htm ************************************************ File contributed for use in USGenWeb Archives by: Joy Fisher sdgenweb@yahoo.com October 6, 2007, 2:28 pm Book Title: Dead Towns Of Georgia A few sleepy houses mark the spot where LISBON,* with envious eye, in former years viewed across Broad river the rising fortunes of Petersburg; and, beyond the Savannah, narrowly scanned the efforts made by Vienna to participate in the lucrative tobacco trade. [1] The original name of this village was the Town of Lincoln. See Sibbald's "Notes and Observations on the Pine Lands of Georgia," &c., p. 63. Augusta, 1801. Additional Comments: Extracted from: THE DEAD TOWNS OF GEORGIA; BY CHARLES C. JONES, JR. FOR HERE WE HAVE NO CONTINUING CITY. Heb.: xiii. 14 SAVANNAH: MORNING NEWS STEAM PRINTING HOUSE. 1878. File at: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ga/lincoln/history/1878/deadtown/lisbon700gms.txt This file has been created by a form at http://www.genrecords.org/gafiles/ File size: 1.2 Kb
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Allan_Bentley Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.georgia.counties.lincoln/1200.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have been doing research on Balaam Bentley for many years and have met and talked with the Hunts that now own the property. I have also been to the property and taken photos of the house and grounds. Here is what I have on Balaam Bentley and the house and Tannery: Balaam Bentley was born in Wilkes County, Georgia (some believe as early as 1763) one of the "two youngest sons" of William Bentley II. It is believed he was born near Loyd's Creek near Amity, just inside the lower eastern border of Wilkes County with Lincoln County. He died February of 1816 and is believed to be buried at the Bentley Family Cemetery in Amity, at Loyds Creek in Lincoln County, Georgia. When William Bentley II died he left the home, tenements, and buildings to his youngest sons Joshua and Balaam. This land was located in the south east corner of Wilkes County, Georgia. According to Clarence "Gross" Bentley, "Balaam moved from the lower part of Wilkes County, Georgia to the south part of Lincoln County, Georgia, January of 1779". This area soon became known as Leathersville. It is believed that the town of Leathersville was named for the Leather Tannery owned and operated by Balaam Bentley and later by his two sons, Dr. John Bentley and Benjamin Balaam Bentley, after their father's death. Dr. John Bentley bought out his brother's share of the Tannery and became sole owner and operator. Email from Bill and Tammy Hunt, January 21, 2003 (Present owners of Balaam Bentley's house) : "...our house and land were recently studied by the Architectural History department from UGA. We had students and professors in and out several times a week from September to December (2002). They have now presented us with a Historical Structure report, which outlines the evolution of the house and the outlying buildings. As suspected, the house was built sometime between 1790 and 1800, with additions in 1810-1820 and then sometime early in the 1900's. The best part of this is that our suppositions are now proven. This puts us way ahead in our attempts to get the house put on the National Register." The original house was rectangular in shape with chimneys on each side. The Kitchen area was to the left of the house. Sometime after the original house was built, a large back porch was added to the back of the house. Sometime after that an addition equal in size to the original house (a total of 1000 square feet) was added to the front of the house along with an L-shaped front porch. It is believed that the children slept in the "loft" of the original house, climbing a steep staircase to get to this large attic room. The original house was put together using wooden pegs. The floor joists were made of whole trees split in half. the ceiling joists were made of TRUE 4 inch X 6 inch hand hewn lumber and the roof rafters were made of 4 inch by 4 inch hand hewn lumber assembled with wooden pegs. Here is a list of what was origiinally located on the property: 1. Hand hewn log barn 2. Large livestock barn 3. House 4. Summer Kitchen (2 room cabin that was more likely a small house for the slaves) 5. Smoke house 6. 3 seater Out House 7. Bentley Cemetery 8. 2 Springs 9. Dozier Branch 10. Blacksmith Shop next to the Spring 11. One small livestock barn near Leathersville Rd. 12. Garage/Coach House 13. Chicken House 14. Hog pen and barn 15. The Leather Tannery (believed to be on the property but not yet located; most likely located next to the spring) Balaam's family raised Horses, Sheep, Cows, and Pigs as well as being a "planter". If you haven't already guessed, Balaam was rather well off for a farmer. In the inventory of his property after his death was listed 7 slaves. Let me add here that Balaam was a very religious man and was even a "minister" of the Greenwood Baptist Church so I am sure he treated his slaves well. Hazel Bentley Eubanks (direct descendant of Balaam Bentley) informed me that Balaam lived first at a home near Amity and Greenwood Baptist Church. He sold that land to the Dunaway family and moved to the house at Leathersville. She believes Balaam and his wife are buried in the Family Cemetery on this old home place in Amity, Lincoln County, Georgia. Will Book B 1807-1832 Pages 55-57 BENTLEY, Balaam--January 21, 1816; March 4, 1816. To Wife Nancy. To sons John and Benjamin Bentley. To Daughters, Keziah and Vincey Garret. Division when youngest son attains lawful age. Exrs: Wife, Ely Garnett. John Bentley. Wit. William Bussey, John H. Walker, Wm Owens. Will of Balaam Bentley Lincoln County, Georgia Signed: January 21, 1816 Probated: March 4, 1816 In the name of God, amen. I, Balaam BENTLEY of Lincoln County and State of Georgia, being afflicted of body by mortal disease that has every appearance of ending in the dissolution of my mortal body and knowing that it is appointed for all flesh to die, and being of sound mind and memory, I therefore do make constitute and ordain this my last Will and Testament in manner and form as follows. To Wit: 1st. I will that all my just debts be paid out of my estate. 2nd. I will that my beloved Wife, Nancy BENTLEY hold possess and enjoy her Dower, during her natural life, of all my real estate, and if she Intermarry again she shall be at her disposal to make her election according to law in everything of my estate. 3rd. I will that after her death that this tract of land whereon I now live be equally divided between my two sons to wit: John BENTLEY and Benjamin BENTLEY. 4th. I will that my other tract of land on Broad River containing three hundred and twenty acres be equally divided between my two daughters to wit: Kizziah BENTLEY and Clency GARNIT and also to Vincy I give the Negro girl Rast that is now in her possession and Kizziah the Negro boy Peter and to my son John BENTLEY I give my boy Harvey and my son Benjamin is to have a Negro from the increased use of this estate. Lastly my will is that all my surviving herd have all their parts appraised so that every one shall have an equal part and also my other Negroes by my George, Jerry, and Peg is to be kept with the plantation and in the support of my beloved wife Nancy BENTLEY during her life, my other Negro man Pollard is to be hired out until my youngest son Benjamin becomes of age and then are at the disposal of my executors either to hire out still or to sell or work at home as they may think best. Lastly I appoint my beloved wife Nancy BENTLEY, Eli GARNETT, and John BENTLEY my executrix and executors to carry out this will into effect and so I commit my soul unto the hand of my gracious Savior and blessed Redeemer. Signed and acknowledged this 21 day of January 1816 in presence of William BUSSEY, John A. WALKER, and William O'NEAL. Balaam BENTLEY Georgia Society of the NSDAR Miscellaneous Records 1968, Vol. 1, p. 143: Balaam Bentley "Balaam Bentley's Will made January 21, 1816, Probated March 4, 1816, Recorded May 8, 1816, in the Ordinary's Office of Lincoln County, Georgia. Since it is the law that a will be probated within 10 days after the death of the testator it is evident that Balaam Bentley died about the last of February. His wife was to have the home place at Leathersville, and at her death it would go to the two sons, John and Benjamin but John evidently bought Benjamin's share. The two daughters, Lavina and Kizzah Bentley were to have a 325 acre tract on Broad River. Benjamin Bentley at one time owned the old Lamar Hotel at Lincolnton, Georgia. His first wife, Mary Paschal, died there and was buried in the Larmar Cemetery. She was related to the (Lamar) family. This hotel was purchased by Robert F. Gullebeau in 1902 and was still owned by his children in 1964. It is said to be around 250 years old. Balaam Bentley settled in Leathersville in January 1801 and had a tanyard, which caused the name of Leathersville. Benjamin Bentley and his second wife Martha Jane McGill, moved to Ouitman, (Brooks County), Georgia and in 1964 Thier descendants were still there and at Valdosta. The late Reverand James H. Wilkinson of Athens, Georgia was thier grandson. Nancy Jane Bentley, daughter of Benjamin and Mary, was born September 8, 1834, died August 7, 1898. (She was) Married February 24, 1853, to John Tatom Harnesberger, born February 19, 1833, died October 1, 1919. They were married by the Reverand William R. Cox in Lincoln County, Georgia." Balaam Bentley owned land in Lincoln County on LOYDS CREEK, at the fork of DRY FORK CREEK AND SOAP CREEK, and on BROAD RIVER near Cade's Mill. Balaam Bentley put an ad in an Augusta newspaper for the return of a runaway slave named "Jem": RUN AWAY >From the subscriber, living in WILKES COUNTY, near LITTLE RIVER, A NEGRO MAN Named "Jem", about 22 years of age, of yellowish complexion, about 5 feet 6 or 7 inches high, with a large scar across his forehead; had on when he went away, a short blue coat, corduroy breeches, a pair of Ruffia Sheeting overalls, and a small hat. He is well made country made fellow, and is very ingenious. Whoever apprehends and secures him in any goal, or secures him so that I get him, shall have Eight Guineas reward. BALAAM BENTLEY APRIL 22, 1788 FROM: "History of Lincoln County" by Clinton Perryman, pages 51-52, published in 1933, comes the following: "TANNERY. Sometimes in the early days of settlement, the exact date of which is unknown, a tannery was established in the southern part of the county and the place was called LEATHERSVILLE, a name which it still remains, and was the first one in Georgia, if not in the South. According to tradition, it was established by BALAAM BENTLEY, the progenitor of the BENTLEY FAMILY in the county, and was operated by him for a number of years. It was later owned and operated by his son, DR. JOHN BENTLEY. It was patronized not only by this county, but by all the surrounding counties, for in the early days , and for many years later, shoes and harness were made locally by hand. During the latter years of it's existence, most of the leather was shipped to northern markets." NOTE: Hazel Bently Eubanks remembers as a child of 7 years old her mother taking her to the old Balaam Bentley property and showing her where the Tannery once stood. She states that it was behind the house and to one side near the creek. She states it had to be near the creek for the Leather Tanning Process. She states that lots of water was needed. She also remembers that the Colonial Dames (Hazel is a member and participated in the process) went through the Family Cemetery behind the house and wrote down all the names they could find in the cemetery and published them in a book. She also remembers that a man (Bartley Crosier) worked for Dr. John Bentley overseeing the tannery and that he was listed in the census records along with Dr. John Bentley. She states the original census record showed that this man was overseer of the tannery. A shoemaker also lived next to the Tannery by the name of Patrick Meginnis from Ireland. 1850 Census of the 52nd. District, Lincoln County, Georgia, page 335. Taken on 6th August 1850 LN PG FM 11 335 33 GRAVES BENJAMIN 28 M W MERCHANT GA 1822 12 335 33 GRAVES ANN A. 24 F W GA 1826 13 335 33 GRAVES FRANCES L. 03 F W GA 1847 14 335 33 GRAVES HENRY E. 01 M W GA 1849 15 335 33 DAY AMY 10 F MU GA 1840 16 335 34 BENTLEY JOHN 53 M W PLANTER GA 1797 17 335 34 BENTLEY NANCY (PASCHALL) 44 F W GA 1806 18 335 34 BENTLEY JOHN B. 23 M W OVERSEER GA 1827 19 335 34 BENTLEY JEREMIAH W. 20 M W STUDENT GA 1830 20 335 34 BENTLEY JABEZ M. 18 M W LABORER GA 1832 21 335 34 BENTLEY ASA J. 15 M W LABORER GA 1835 22 335 34 BENTLEY SARAH E. 13 F W GA 1837 23 335 34 BENTLEY MARTHA J. 11 F W GA 1839 24 335 34 BENTLEY CHARLES M. 08 M W GA 1842 25 335 34 BENTLEY DENNIS B. 06 M W GA 1844 26 335 34 BENTLEY HENRY 03 M W GA 1847 27 335 34 BENTLEY NANCY 10/12 F W GA 1850 28 335 34 STUART ELLEN 25 F W GA 1825 29 335 34 GARNETT GEORGE 60 M B PLANTER VA 1790 30 335 34 GARNETT CATY 50 F B GA 1800 31 335 35 MEGINNIS PATRICK 45 M W SHOE MAKER IR 1805 32 335 35 MEGINNIS ELIZABETH 26 F W GA 1821 33 335 35 MEGINNIS GEORGE P. 9/12M W GA 1850 34 335 36 CROSIER BARTLEY 28 M MU TANNER GA 1822 35 335 36 CROSIER ELIZA 25 F GA 1825 36 335 36 CROSIER JOHN 09/12M MU GA 1850 37 335 36 DAY REBECCA 35 F MU GA 1815 38 335 36 DAY JESSY 02 M MU GA 1848 39 335 36 BENTLEY VIRGINIA 70 F MU UNK 1780 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Allan_Bentley Surnames: Bentley, Meginnis, Crosier, Tankersley, Garnett, Graves, Bussey, Walker, O'Neil, Owens, Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.georgia.counties.lincoln/1200.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have been doing research on Balaam Bentley for many years and have met and talked with the Hunts that now own the property. I have also been to the property and taken photos of the house and grounds. Here is what I have on Balaam Bentley and the house and Tannery: Balaam Bentley was born in Wilkes County, Georgia (some believe as early as 1763) one of the "two youngest sons" of William Bentley II. It is believed he was born near Loyd's Creek near Amity, just inside the lower eastern border of Wilkes County with Lincoln County. He died February of 1816 and is believed to be buried at the Bentley Family Cemetery in Amity, at Loyds Creek in Lincoln County, Georgia. When William Bentley II died he left the home, tenements, and buildings to his youngest sons Joshua and Balaam. This land was located in the south east corner of Wilkes County, Georgia. According to Clarence "Gross" Bentley, "Balaam moved from the lower part of Wilkes County, Georgia to the south part of Lincoln County, Georgia, January of 1779". This area soon became known as Leathersville. It is believed that the town of Leathersville was named for the Leather Tannery owned and operated by Balaam Bentley and later by his two sons, Dr. John Bentley and Benjamin Balaam Bentley, after their father's death. Dr. John Bentley bought out his brother's share of the Tannery and became sole owner and operator. Email from Bill and Tammy Hunt, January 21, 2003 (Present owners of Balaam Bentley's house) : "...our house and land were recently studied by the Architectural History department from UGA. We had students and professors in and out several times a week from September to December (2002). They have now presented us with a Historical Structure report, which outlines the evolution of the house and the outlying buildings. As suspected, the house was built sometime between 1790 and 1800, with additions in 1810-1820 and then sometime early in the 1900's. The best part of this is that our suppositions are now proven. This puts us way ahead in our attempts to get the house put on the National Register." The original house was rectangular in shape with chimneys on each side. The Kitchen area was to the left of the house. Sometime after the original house was built, a large back porch was added to the back of the house. Sometime after that an addition equal in size to the original house (a total of 1000 square feet) was added to the front of the house along with an L-shaped front porch. It is believed that the children slept in the "loft" of the original house, climbing a steep staircase to get to this large attic room. The original house was put together using wooden pegs. The floor joists were made of whole trees split in half. the ceiling joists were made of TRUE 4 inch X 6 inch hand hewn lumber and the roof rafters were made of 4 inch by 4 inch hand hewn lumber assembled with wooden pegs. Here is a list of what was origiinally located on the property: 1. Hand hewn log barn 2. Large livestock barn 3. House 4. Summer Kitchen (2 room cabin that was more likely a small house for the slaves) 5. Smoke house 6. 3 seater Out House 7. Bentley Cemetery 8. 2 Springs 9. Dozier Branch 10. Blacksmith Shop next to the Spring 11. One small livestock barn near Leathersville Rd. 12. Garage/Coach House 13. Chicken House 14. Hog pen and barn 15. The Leather Tannery (believed to be on the property but not yet located; most likely located next to the spring) Balaam's family raised Horses, Sheep, Cows, and Pigs as well as being a "planter". If you haven't already guessed, Balaam was rather well off for a farmer. In the inventory of his property after his death was listed 7 slaves. Let me add here that Balaam was a very religious man and was even a "minister" of the Greenwood Baptist Church so I am sure he treated his slaves well. Hazel Bentley Eubanks (direct descendant of Balaam Bentley) informed me that Balaam lived first at a home near Amity and Greenwood Baptist Church. He sold that land to the Dunaway family and moved to the house at Leathersville. She believes Balaam and his wife are buried in the Family Cemetery on this old home place in Amity, Lincoln County, Georgia. Will Book B 1807-1832 Pages 55-57 BENTLEY, Balaam--January 21, 1816; March 4, 1816. To Wife Nancy. To sons John and Benjamin Bentley. To Daughters, Keziah and Vincey Garret. Division when youngest son attains lawful age. Exrs: Wife, Ely Garnett. John Bentley. Wit. William Bussey, John H. Walker, Wm Owens. Will of Balaam Bentley Lincoln County, Georgia Signed: January 21, 1816 Probated: March 4, 1816 In the name of God, amen. I, Balaam BENTLEY of Lincoln County and State of Georgia, being afflicted of body by mortal disease that has every appearance of ending in the dissolution of my mortal body and knowing that it is appointed for all flesh to die, and being of sound mind and memory, I therefore do make constitute and ordain this my last Will and Testament in manner and form as follows. To Wit: 1st. I will that all my just debts be paid out of my estate. 2nd. I will that my beloved Wife, Nancy BENTLEY hold possess and enjoy her Dower, during her natural life, of all my real estate, and if she Intermarry again she shall be at her disposal to make her election according to law in everything of my estate. 3rd. I will that after her death that this tract of land whereon I now live be equally divided between my two sons to wit: John BENTLEY and Benjamin BENTLEY. 4th. I will that my other tract of land on Broad River containing three hundred and twenty acres be equally divided between my two daughters to wit: Kizziah BENTLEY and Clency GARNIT and also to Vincy I give the Negro girl Rast that is now in her possession and Kizziah the Negro boy Peter and to my son John BENTLEY I give my boy Harvey and my son Benjamin is to have a Negro from the increased use of this estate. Lastly my will is that all my surviving herd have all their parts appraised so that every one shall have an equal part and also my other Negroes by my George, Jerry, and Peg is to be kept with the plantation and in the support of my beloved wife Nancy BENTLEY during her life, my other Negro man Pollard is to be hired out until my youngest son Benjamin becomes of age and then are at the disposal of my executors either to hire out still or to sell or work at home as they may think best. Lastly I appoint my beloved wife Nancy BENTLEY, Eli GARNETT, and John BENTLEY my executrix and executors to carry out this will into effect and so I commit my soul unto the hand of my gracious Savior and blessed Redeemer. Signed and acknowledged this 21 day of January 1816 in presence of William BUSSEY, John A. WALKER, and William O'NEAL. Balaam BENTLEY Georgia Society of the NSDAR Miscellaneous Records 1968, Vol. 1, p. 143: Balaam Bentley "Balaam Bentley's Will made January 21, 1816, Probated March 4, 1816, Recorded May 8, 1816, in the Ordinary's Office of Lincoln County, Georgia. Since it is the law that a will be probated within 10 days after the death of the testator it is evident that Balaam Bentley died about the last of February. His wife was to have the home place at Leathersville, and at her death it would go to the two sons, John and Benjamin but John evidently bought Benjamin's share. The two daughters, Lavina and Kizzah Bentley were to have a 325 acre tract on Broad River. Benjamin Bentley at one time owned the old Lamar Hotel at Lincolnton, Georgia. His first wife, Mary Paschal, died there and was buried in the Larmar Cemetery. She was related to the (Lamar) family. This hotel was purchased by Robert F. Gullebeau in 1902 and was still owned by his children in 1964. It is said to be around 250 years old. Balaam Bentley settled in Leathersville in January 1801 and had a tanyard, which caused the name of Leathersville. Benjamin Bentley and his second wife Martha Jane McGill, moved to Ouitman, (Brooks County), Georgia and in 1964 Thier descendants were still there and at Valdosta. The late Reverand James H. Wilkinson of Athens, Georgia was thier grandson. Nancy Jane Bentley, daughter of Benjamin and Mary, was born September 8, 1834, died August 7, 1898. (She was) Married February 24, 1853, to John Tatom Harnesberger, born February 19, 1833, died October 1, 1919. They were married by the Reverand William R. Cox in Lincoln County, Georgia." Balaam Bentley owned land in Lincoln County on LOYDS CREEK, at the fork of DRY FORK CREEK AND SOAP CREEK, and on BROAD RIVER near Cade's Mill. Balaam Bentley put an ad in an Augusta newspaper for the return of a runaway slave named "Jem": RUN AWAY From the subscriber, living in WILKES COUNTY, near LITTLE RIVER, A NEGRO MAN Named "Jem", about 22 years of age, of yellowish complexion, about 5 feet 6 or 7 inches high, with a large scar across his forehead; had on when he went away, a short blue coat, corduroy breeches, a pair of Ruffia Sheeting overalls, and a small hat. He is well made country made fellow, and is very ingenious. Whoever apprehends and secures him in any goal, or secures him so that I get him, shall have Eight Guineas reward. BALAAM BENTLEY APRIL 22, 1788 FROM: "History of Lincoln County" by Clinton Perryman, pages 51-52, published in 1933, comes the following: "TANNERY. Sometimes in the early days of settlement, the exact date of which is unknown, a tannery was established in the southern part of the county and the place was called LEATHERSVILLE, a name which it still remains, and was the first one in Georgia, if not in the South. According to tradition, it was established by BALAAM BENTLEY, the progenitor of the BENTLEY FAMILY in the county, and was operated by him for a number of years. It was later owned and operated by his son, DR. JOHN BENTLEY. It was patronized not only by this county, but by all the surrounding counties, for in the early days , and for many years later, shoes and harness were made locally by hand. During the latter years of it's existence, most of the leather was shipped to northern markets." NOTE: Hazel Bently Eubanks remembers as a child of 7 years old her mother taking her to the old Balaam Bentley property and showing her where the Tannery once stood. She states that it was behind the house and to one side near the creek. She states it had to be near the creek for the Leather Tanning Process. She states that lots of water was needed. She also remembers that the Colonial Dames (Hazel is a member and participated in the process) went through the Family Cemetery behind the house and wrote down all the names they could find in the cemetery and published them in a book. She also remembers that a man (Bartley Crosier) worked for Dr. John Bentley overseeing the tannery and that he was listed in the census records along with Dr. John Bentley. She states the original census record showed that this man was overseer of the tannery. A shoemaker also lived next to the Tannery by the name of Patrick Meginnis from Ireland. 1850 Census of the 52nd. District, Lincoln County, Georgia, page 335. Taken on 6th August 1850 LN PG FM 11 335 33 GRAVES BENJAMIN 28 M W MERCHANT GA 1822 12 335 33 GRAVES ANN A. 24 F W GA 1826 13 335 33 GRAVES FRANCES L. 03 F W GA 1847 14 335 33 GRAVES HENRY E. 01 M W GA 1849 15 335 33 DAY AMY 10 F MU GA 1840 16 335 34 BENTLEY JOHN 53 M W PLANTER GA 1797 17 335 34 BENTLEY NANCY (PASCHALL) 44 F W GA 1806 18 335 34 BENTLEY JOHN B. 23 M W OVERSEER GA 1827 19 335 34 BENTLEY JEREMIAH W. 20 M W STUDENT GA 1830 20 335 34 BENTLEY JABEZ M. 18 M W LABORER GA 1832 21 335 34 BENTLEY ASA J. 15 M W LABORER GA 1835 22 335 34 BENTLEY SARAH E. 13 F W GA 1837 23 335 34 BENTLEY MARTHA J. 11 F W GA 1839 24 335 34 BENTLEY CHARLES M. 08 M W GA 1842 25 335 34 BENTLEY DENNIS B. 06 M W GA 1844 26 335 34 BENTLEY HENRY 03 M W GA 1847 27 335 34 BENTLEY NANCY 10/12 F W GA 1850 28 335 34 STUART ELLEN 25 F W GA 1825 29 335 34 GARNETT GEORGE 60 M B PLANTER VA 1790 30 335 34 GARNETT CATY 50 F B GA 1800 31 335 35 MEGINNIS PATRICK 45 M W SHOE MAKER IR 1805 32 335 35 MEGINNIS ELIZABETH 26 F W GA 1821 33 335 35 MEGINNIS GEORGE P. 9/12M W GA 1850 34 335 36 CROSIER BARTLEY 28 M MU TANNER GA 1822 35 335 36 CROSIER ELIZA 25 F GA 1825 36 335 36 CROSIER JOHN 09/12M MU GA 1850 37 335 36 DAY REBECCA 35 F MU GA 1815 38 335 36 DAY JESSY 02 M MU GA 1848 39 335 36 BENTLEY VIRGINIA 70 F MU UNK 1780 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TerriSaturday99 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.georgia.counties.lincoln/1200.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Could you please pass my email along to your brother and notify of me contacting him. I would love to learn more about the Tannery and the Bentleys as well. Thanks in advance Terri Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LaverneStanley Surnames: Bentley Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.georgia.counties.lincoln/1200.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: History of the tannery is sketchy. Balaam Bentley established the tannery c. 1800. The exact location remains unknown. The current owners have done quite a bit of research and have tried to locate it. The Community of Leathersville and Leathersville Road were names for the tanner. Bentleys and Smalleys lived on the property during the 1800s. The original house (with log supports) still stands and is the home of the Hunts. They have probably done the most research. My brother also has more information than I do. His email is jmstory@earthlink.net. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TerriSaturday99 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.georgia.counties.lincoln/1200.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi I to would love to know more history of this location could you write to me at my address of tlsaturday@nu-z.net. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: janetjordan_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.georgia.counties.lincoln/1200.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm also gathering info on GA tanyards. I can tell you precisely where the marker is. I have been in contact with the current property owner for my research. Contact me off list for more information. janetjordan@earthlink.net. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rbentley191 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.georgia.counties.lincoln/690.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You are right about the connection. Grady was married to Thomas Melton Bentley, Jr's daughter Mabel. They had only one child, a boy, William (Billy). Thomas Melton Sr. had 5 boys and one girl. Thomas Melton Sr. first wife died in 1923 and he remarried in 1925. This time he married a sister of the wife of one of his sons. His first wife was Nancy Strother His second wife was Mattie Lou Mathews. They had one child a boy. Sorta like "I am my own grndpa" thing. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ThomasHuffman_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.georgia.counties.lincoln/690.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Glad I could help. I've heard my grandfather talk about Grady and it seems like he's mentioned a Linnenkohl/Bentley connection somewhere. I do know through my research that the Bentley's were a LARGE family in Lincoln county. I think the connection has something to do with the fact that my great-grandfather James, and his brother Thomas, married two sisters from Lincoln county. Their names were Lucy Ella Rogers and Sallie Mae Rogers. Not sure but I think the Bentley connection came in there somewhere...by way of marriage. When you have time to do more work on your family tree, let me know and I'll be glad to help. I have a ton of information to share. Also, we can make arrangements to communicate off line and I can make sure you're added to the mailing list for next year's Linnenkohl reunion. It will most likely be the third or fourth Saturday in August. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rbentley191 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.georgia.counties.lincoln/690.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks very much for the info. I had this but as you can see there were a few holes. Louis Ludwig, born in Germany, came to the USA at the age of 32 with his brother. His brother did not like this country and returned to Germany. Leaving Louis Ludwig to the the only Linnenkohl in America. He was a shoemaker by trade. He came to Georgia and settled at Penfield in Greene County. There he met and married Nancy Susan Kennedy, They married in 1853. Louis Ludwig is buried at County Line Baptist Church Cemetery, near Philomath, Ga. in Oglethrope Co. His grave is at the old Church site approx. 1/4 mile off the main road and present church, down in the woods. Nancy Susan is buried at Salem Baptist Church Cenetery in the Southern part of Lincoln Co. Ga. Info taken from headstones in 1982. I did not know about the reunion in Lincolnton. I was born, November 1, 28, in Lincoln County in the community of Woodlawn. Grady Linnenkohl died a April 15, 2001--he lived close to me in a community of Haddock,Ga. His son William (Billy) lives not too far from me in Bibb County, Ga. I will back in touch as soon as I have time to do a little on my Family tree--seems like the older I get the more I am involved in things. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ThomasHuffman_1 Surnames: Linnenkohl Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.georgia.counties.lincoln/690.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Louis Ludwig Linnenkohl was my great-great grandfather. He was born in Witzenhausen, Germany in 1816. He immigrated to the US around 1845 and settled in the Penfield Community in Greene County, GA. He was a shoe maker by trade. Several years ago, his remains were exhumed and buried next to his wife (Nancy Susan Kennedy) at Salem Baptist Church. His son, James Carl Linnenkohl was my great-grandfather. I can provide any information you need on the Linnenkohl family. Several of Louis Ludwig's grandchildren (that's right...grandchildren) are still living. We hold a Linnenkohl family reunion every August in Lincolnton, GA or Dearing, GA. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: georgiafolks Surnames: Wood/Woods/Wolfe Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.georgia.counties.lincoln/1201/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This is my Grandmother's Family - I am searching for any relationships I can find ... my grandmother is Fannie Lucille Wood(s) and she married Jessie Lee Wolfe in Wilkes County Georgia. Her family lived in Lincoln County. The Woods family has also been listed as the Wood family. Lora Lizzie Wood(s) b.1887/d.1891 Ann Caroline "Carrie" Wood(s) b.1889/d.1968 Joseph W. "Joe" Wood(s) b.1891 Mamie Lou Wood(s) b.1893 Eva E. Wood(s) b.1895/d.1971 John "Johnnie" R. Wood(s) b.1897 Charles "Charlie" Lee Wood(s) b.1899/d.1952 James Callaway "Jimmy" Wood(s) b.1901/d.1958 Pressley Wood(s) b.1904 Fannie Lucille Wood(s) b.1907/d.1990 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Just recently (The Auburn Historical Association) has been working on saving the Samford-Cullars house south of the Museum.(Auburn) It was built in the 1850's, built probably by Wm. F. Samford and was sold to the Alvis Cullars family in 1898 by the Samford's. Also are you aware of two other Cullars houses in Auburn, both on South College Street? Many homes in both Auburn and Opelika were built in the Barn on Samford Avenue housing the largest wooden lathe in Lee County owned by Alpha Cullars. The Bank building on Toomers Corner was built in 1906 by the Cullars, as well as Alumni Gym, torn down to built Foy-Union Building. --- Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Database (VPS): 000764-5, 08/10/2007 Tested on: 8/10/2007 5:18:06 PM (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
Walton-Columbia-Lincoln County GaArchives Military Records.....Swords, James May 19, 1834 Revwar - Pension Georgia Militia ************************************************ Copyright. All rights reserved. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/copyright.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ga/gafiles.htm ************************************************ File contributed for use in USGenWeb Archives by: Robert Klebs rklebs@hotmail.com August 10, 2007, 1:14 pm Declaration Of James Swords "Declaration of James Swords in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June 1832. State of Georgia County of Walton. On this nineteenth day of May eighteen hundred and thirty four personally appeared before the honorable the Inferior Court of said county of Walton being a court of record. James Swords, a resident of the county aforesaid, and State of Georgia, aged seventy nine years on the tenth day of June last, who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of congress passed June 7th 1832 depose that he enlisted in the Army of the United States as a Georgia Militiaman on the first of March 1777 for the period of three months with Captain Henry Walker, and served in the first regiment of Georgia Militia under the following named officers: John Stewart, Colonel Elijah Clark, Lt. Colonel Henry Walker, Captain Henry Carr, 1st Lt. Charles Stewart, 2nd Lt. Joseph Harper, First Sergeant David Fennel, Corporal That this deponent lived at the time of said enlistment in the Village of Wrightsboro, Columbia County, and State of Georgia, that during the three months he was not engaged in any battle. During this time he marched first from Wrightsboro aforesaid to a place called Rogers Fort upon the Ogeechee river where he rendezvoused and was stationed during said three months in said fort guarding the frontier of Georgia against the invasions of Tories and Indians. Deponent, immediately upon expiration of said three months, without ever leaving the army, was enlisted upon the first of June 1777 for another three-month tour under the same officers. That at the date of said last named enlistment the place of deponent's residence was still at Wrightsboro, Columbia County, and Georgia. Deponent declares that he was not engaged in any battle during his previous three month tour, and was stationed only a few days after said last named term of enlistment at Rogers Fort on Ogeechee river. He marched during said last term of enlistment from said fort through a part of Hancock County, across a part of Warren County to a place called Dennis Mill on Little River in the County of Wilkes where this deponent was stationed about four weeks-thence this deponent marched to a place called Awls Old Place on the waters of Long Creek; thence up Long Creek to its fork where this deponent was stationed for the balance of said last named three month tour and was engaged in building a fort and guarding the frontier of Georgia against Indians, an absence of one fortnight being excepted from last three months, this deponent having been away for that length of aforesaid to visit his wife in the County of Columbia and this deponent further declares that immediately upon the expiration of said last named three months without leaving the station at Long Creek aforesaid he was on the 1st of September 1777 enlisted for another three month tour. John Stewart still being first colonel, Elija Clark Lt. Col, Henry Carr Captain (Walker having died) Charles Stewart 1st Lt, Thomas Adams Sergeant, Harper having died, the corporal's name this deponent cannot remember (Fennel having also died). This deponents residence at the date of his said last enlistment was still Wrightsboro Columbia County, State of Georgia and deponent says he was not engaged in any battle during his said last named tour of enlistment, but was stationed during the same in the fork of Long Creek aforesaid and this deponent, immediately upon expiration of said last named tour of three months, was, without having left the station in the fork of Long Creek, upon the first of December 1777 enlisted for another three month tour under the same officers and the deponents place of residence was still at Wrightsboro County of Columbia State of Georgia at the date of his said last named term of enlistment. The deponent was not engaged in any battle during his said last named three months enlistment and this deponent was stationed at the fork of Long Creek aforesaid guarding the frontiers of Georgia. Near a quite eight weeks after the date of his last term of enlistment, where he marched from the fork of Long creek aforesaid through a part of the County of Wilkes to a place near the Village of Washington called Gourdvine Station in Wilkes County aforesaid, this deponent further declares that without ever having left the service he, on the first of March 1778 at the Gourdvine Station aforesaid enlisted for another three months tour under the same officers as named and Andrew Lethcoe, Sergeant and this deponent says that his place of residence was still at Wrightsboro aforesaid Columbia County State of Georgia that he was not engaged in any battle during this his last named tour of duty. During the same he marched as follows- first from Gourdvine Station in the County of Wilkes through Warren County to Measels Ferry from the Ogeechee thence this deponent marched to Midway Meeting house in the County of Scriven and this deponent further declares that immediately upon the expiration of said three months he was enlisted again upon the first day of June 1778 for another three months tour under the command of same officers last are herein before named and that this deponent's place of residence was still in the Village of Wrightsboro County of Columbia State of Georgia. He was not engaged in any battles during his last named tour; that during said last named tour he marched from Midway meeting house in Scriven county to Fort Tony upon the St Mary's River where the deponent was stationed until some time late in August 1778. Deponent marched back again to Midway Meeting house where deponent was honorably discharged in writing under the hand of Captain Henry Carr aforesaid, but which discharge the deponent declares has been long since lost or destroyed consequently be by affadavit obtained and this deponent further declares that on the 10th day of April 1780 that he volunteered for another three months tour into the service of the United States as a Georgia Militiaman with George Dooley Captain in the regiment commanded by Colonel Josia Davis; the other field company officers this deponent cannot remember. Deponent's residence at the time was Wrightsboro, Columbia County, Georgia. Deponent declares that during this tour he was engaged in the battle of the second siege of Augusta and deponent further declares that during this last tour he marched from the place of his residence Wrightsboro, through Columbia County into the County of Richmond to Augusta at it second siege where this deponent was stationed and remained until Augusta was captured, being a period of two months at least from the time this deponent volunteered. When Augusta being taken there being no farther need of the services of deponent for the remaining month he was honorably and verbally discharge by Captain George Dooley. Deponent further declares that he again, on the 1st of March 1781, volunteered in the service of the United States as a Georgia Militiaman for a tour of another three months with Jonathan Jones Captain under General Anthony Wayne as Commander and this deponent can't remember any other of his officers during the tour but remembers that Jones was permitted to return home when this deponent was under William Camp as his Captain during the three months tour and this deponent further declares that he did not leave the service until the expiration of the said last three months but that he served the same fully and was honorably and verbally discharged by Captain Camp at the expiration of said three months, a relief having arrived and this deponent was not engaged in any battle during this three months tour. His residence was still at Wrightsboro, Columbia County, State of Georgia. The deponent marched during this tour from Wrightsboro through the county of Columbia and thence Richmond county upon the south west side of the Savannah River through Waynesboro in Burke County and thence Burke County down to Ebenezer upon the Savannah River at which place and at a place about one mile below this deponent was stationed during said three months last named at which latter place this deponent having fully served last three month tour he was honorably and verbally discharged by Captain William Camp. In the interrogation directed by the War Department to be propounded to applicants for Pensions the said James Swords makes answers as follows: 1st Where and in what year were you born? To the first question: He answers in York County, Pennsylvania in the year 1754. 2nd Have you any record of your age and if so where is it? To the second question: He answers I have no written record of my age. I once had but some years ago it was burned when all of my possessions were destroyed. It was burned up when my house was destroyed by fire. 3rd Where were you living when called to serve and where have you since lived since the Revolutionary War and where do you now live? To the third question: He answers At Wrightsboro Columbia County State of Georgia I have lived since the Revolutionary War in the state of Georgia first in the County of Columbia, then in Wilkes County next in Lincoln County and then next in Walton County where I now reside. 4th How were you called into service were you drafted did you volunteer or were you a substitute and if a substitute for whom? To the fourth question: He answers I enlisted during eighteen months service. I then served as a volunteer twice. I was never a substitute. 5th State the names of the Regular officers who were with the corps you served such continental and militia regiments as you can recollect and the general circumstances of your services. To the fifth question: He answers General Howe when I was at St Mary's in what was called the Florida Expedition. General Wayne, Colonel Lee, Major Eaton. 6th Did you receive a discharge from the service and if so where is it by whom was it signed and what has become of it? To the sixth question: He answers I did receive a written discharge which was given to me by Captain Henry Carr which has long since been lost or destroyed. 7th State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood and who can verify as to your character for veracity and their belief as to your services as a soldier of the Revolution. To the seventh question: He answers Gen[?] Robert M. ECHOLS Milner ECHOLS Esqr Charles FERGERSON George PARK Esqr Col Timothy PITTMAN & Benjamin HARRIS. Additional Comments: The above was provided by Joy King from Doug Swords in May, 1998. The seven questions were originally omitted from the original and obtained by this writer on Oct.2, 2002 and inserted into the body of the text. The replies have not been altered in any way Robert W. Klebs. File at: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ga/walton/military/revwar/pensions/swords380gmt.txt This file has been created by a form at http://www.genrecords.org/gafiles/ File size: 11.4 Kb
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LaverneStanley Surnames: Bentley Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.georgia.counties.lincoln/344.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: As I understand it, my ancestor, Balaam Bentley, established the tannery and built the home c. 1800-1803. The property is privately owned, and the actual site of the tannery is unknown. An historical marker has been placed at the intersection of Leathersville Road and I think it's route 221. My brother, Jim Story, actually has more information on Balaam Bentley and his genealogy. You may contact me directly at: lstanley2@satx.rr.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Pateick Surnames: Paschal, Bentley & Burgess Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.georgia.counties.lincoln/1200.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have not been down into the property where the tannery was, it is fenced in & is private property, but I know where it is. My cousin & I had an appointment to go there, but the new owners had an emergency & cancelled. It is near Clay Hill, there is a historical marker at the corner of the property, put there by the Colonial Dames. My great grandfather was Balaam. I have a cousin in Lawrenceville that knows the name of the new owners, she had their phone # at one time. Let me know if you have gotten anymore info. Where do you live? Pat Burgess Eick - bigeick@juno.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.