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    1. Re: [GALICIA] Can't Find Information
    2. Debbie Raff
    3. I did a town search on the JewishGen Shtetl Seeker at: http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp I used "Hla" only as it was the only common beginning for the spellings you stated and set the search to "Starts with - Town Names Starting with this prefix". There are quite a few hits, but the second one seems the closest, perhaps??? It uses your first spelling. Hladke, Gladki, Smorshki (Ukraine) Coordinates - 51°01' N 31°11' E (you can click on 4 different links to find a map to assist you in seeing the surrounding towns.) 49.7 miles NE of Kyyiv (Kiev)50°26' N 30°31' E If you do a search and click on the last column "10 mile radius", you can see 23 towns within a 10 mile radius. Perhaps one of them will sound familiar? Sometimes Wikipedia does have accurate information. You might want to read the article cited below. .According to it , "... Between 1939 and 1945 an estimated 3,000 members of the Catholic clergy in Poland were killed; of these, 1,992 died in concentration camps, 787 of them at Dachau, including bishop Michal Kozal...." (more details are given and at some point this article might prove to be a supplementary resource for you. Suppression of the Roman Catholic Church and other religions (see below) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treatment_of_Polish_citizens_by_occupiers#Suppression_of_the_Roman_Catholic_Church_and_other_religions That's the best I can do as I am searching my Jewish roots and am unfamiliar with Church History, diocese locations, etc. Good luck :)

    12/12/2008 07:07:25
    1. Re: [GALICIA] Can't Find Information
    2. Dennis Benarz
    3. Hi Debbie "Close" doesn't count except in horseshoes and hand grenades. (Chuckle.) HLADKI near Tarnopol (today, Ternopil) doesn't show up as a search result using ShtetlSeeker but it does show up as an inhabited place in the 1900 Austrian Census. Further, HLADKI's entry in Slownik Geograficzny Krolestwa Polskiego (Warsaw, 1880, Volume 3, p. 73) provides its late 19th Century population as 486, 18 Roman Catholics and the balance apparently Greek Catholic. I really like its chances of being the correct village. HLADKE is NE of Kiev and it was never in the Austrian Crownland of Galicia nor in earlier years a part of the Kingdom of Poland. The likelihood of finding ethnic Poles residing there in the 19th Century is pretty slim. It's always a pleasure reading your posts. Continued good luck with researching your Jewish roots. Although my ancestors have been Catholic since the Benedictine monks converted us heathens from our pagan ways over a thousand years ago, think of me kindly as a "yiddishe neshuma". Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Raff" <seraph@dc.rr.com> To: <galicia@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [GALICIA] Can't Find Information I did a town search on the JewishGen Shtetl Seeker at: http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp I used "Hla" only as it was the only common beginning for the spellings you stated and set the search to "Starts with - Town Names Starting with this prefix". There are quite a few hits, but the second one seems the closest, perhaps??? It uses your first spelling. Hladke, Gladki, Smorshki (Ukraine) Coordinates - 51°01' N 31°11' E (you can click on 4 different links to find a map to assist you in seeing the surrounding towns.) 49.7 miles NE of Kyyiv (Kiev)50°26' N 30°31' E If you do a search and click on the last column "10 mile radius", you can see 23 towns within a 10 mile radius. Perhaps one of them will sound familiar? Sometimes Wikipedia does have accurate information. You might want to read the article cited below. .According to it , "... Between 1939 and 1945 an estimated 3,000 members of the Catholic clergy in Poland were killed; of these, 1,992 died in concentration camps, 787 of them at Dachau, including bishop Michal Kozal...." (more details are given and at some point this article might prove to be a supplementary resource for you. Suppression of the Roman Catholic Church and other religions (see below) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treatment_of_Polish_citizens_by_occupiers#Suppression_of_the_Roman_Catholic_Church_and_other_religionsThat's the best I can do as I am searching my Jewish roots and am unfamiliarwith Church History, diocese locations, etc.Good luck :)*********************************Need to contact the list manager?GALICIA-admin@rootsweb.com-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toGALICIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotesin the subject and the body of the message

    12/12/2008 10:51:28