I am new to the Galicia list, and have posted these details to the PolandBorder Surnames board recently, as well. In preparation for leaving for Poland May 25, I am looking for guidance on locating vital records for my Ruthenian (Carpatho-Rusyn) relatives who listed their place of origin as Lukawica, Lesko, Austria (Galicia). My grandfather, Oleksa Krawiecz, left Hamburg arriving in NY June 5, 1913. I have located his village, Lukavica, on the map just north of Lesko, near Sanok, Poland. I have looked at LDS film 766,021 for Rzeszow Greek Orthodox, as well as the Austrian Galizien film 948601, but was unable to find his parents Tomasz Krawiecz or Rose Hudoba, his mother, or Oleksa. I have the names and vital dates for Oleksa's brothers and sisters and grandfather, Andrej, but could not find any trace in the Greek Orthodox records. Brothers and sisters Eve, Julia, Nicholas, Wallace, Mary and Joseph were born near Lesko from 1886 to 1906. Thomas Krawiecz had a brother John and sister "Tilly" (?). I have ordered (but not received yet from LDS) film from Slownik Geograficzny Gazetteer for determining the parish, which I do not know. Oleksa converted to Lutheran while living in Pittsburgh, but the rest of the family practiced Orthodox rite. Does anyone know what the likely Orthodox church would be named in Lesko, and if there are cemeteries there or in Lukavica? My question is, since Oleksa was born in 1895 (i.e, over the 100 year mark), have the records now been transferred to Warsaw? Or are they in Sanok or Przemysl? I am considering hiring someone to help me navigate through the archives while I'm there for one week. I have no geographical information on Hudoba or Surgent (spelling changed?) They could be Slovakian or Hungarian? I would welcome any recommendations or comments from the group. Claudia (Kravetz) Hansen
Hi Claudia I think I have detected the root of your Galician research problem. There were no Greek Orthodox churches in the Austrian Crownland of Galicia around 1900, so you'll have to refocus your research on the old Greek Catholic parishes. According to 1900 Austrian records, the ancestral village would be LUKAWICA near LISKO (Lesko) and its Greek Catholic residents attended the church at MANASTERZEC. Unfortunately, I find no existing LDS microfilms for the records of this particular church (or for several variations of the name). The entry for this village in "Slownik Geograficzny Krolestwo Polskiego" is found in Volume 6, page 89, under the name MANASTERZ. That entry notes that the village was also sometimes called MONASTERZ. The SGKP is online and you can browse its many pages from your easy chair. To further add to the confusion, the village is now called MONASTERZEC on contemporary maps. But now my crystal ball is growing hazy and dark so all I can add is that, in rural SE Poland, wherever there is or was a church there's a cemetery. Have a nice, safe trip! Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "usinet.sbeggs" <sbeggs@attglobal.net> To: <galicia@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:45 AM Subject: [GALICIA] new search for Krawiecz, Karlitsky, Hudoba,Surgent from Lukawica, Lesko, Galicia >I am new to the Galicia list, and have posted these details to the >PolandBorder Surnames board recently, as well. > > In preparation for leaving for Poland May 25, I am looking for guidance on > locating vital records for my Ruthenian (Carpatho-Rusyn) relatives who > listed their place of origin as Lukawica, Lesko, Austria (Galicia). > > My grandfather, Oleksa Krawiecz, left Hamburg arriving in NY June 5, 1913. > I have located his village, Lukavica, on the map just north of Lesko, near > Sanok, Poland. > > I have looked at LDS film 766,021 for Rzeszow Greek Orthodox, as well as > the Austrian Galizien film 948601, but was unable to find his parents > Tomasz Krawiecz or Rose Hudoba, his mother, or Oleksa. I have the names > and vital dates for Oleksa's brothers and sisters and grandfather, Andrej, > but could not find any trace in the Greek Orthodox records. Brothers and > sisters Eve, Julia, Nicholas, Wallace, Mary and Joseph were born near > Lesko from 1886 to 1906. Thomas Krawiecz had a brother John and sister > "Tilly" (?). > > I have ordered (but not received yet from LDS) film from Slownik > Geograficzny Gazetteer for determining the parish, which I do not know. > Oleksa converted to Lutheran while living in Pittsburgh, but the rest of > the family practiced Orthodox rite. Does anyone know what the likely > Orthodox church would be named in Lesko, and if there are cemeteries there > or in Lukavica? > > My question is, since Oleksa was born in 1895 (i.e, over the 100 year > mark), have the records now been transferred to Warsaw? Or are they in > Sanok or Przemysl? I am considering hiring someone to help me navigate > through the archives while I'm there for one week. > > I have no geographical information on Hudoba or Surgent (spelling > changed?) They could be Slovakian or Hungarian? > > I would welcome any recommendations or comments from the group. > > Claudia (Kravetz) Hansen > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? > GALICIA-admin@rootsweb.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GALICIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Hello Claudia, LDS has no Rzeszow Greek Orthodox parish records, so I'm curious to learn why you ordered film nr. 766021. Film 766021 in addition has no Rzeszow or any relevant records for LUKAWICA or Manasterz. Film nr. 948601 aslo has no relevant records. Use the Polish State Archive wevbsite to see what MANASTERZ Greek Catholic parish records they have. Other extant MANASTERZ Greek Catholic parish records will be possessed by the local registry office ...visit that office while in Poland to see what they have. As Dennis wrote...don't search for Orthodox parish vital records because in Galicia the Austrians did not permit Orthodox churches. _________ Lavrentiy Krupniak Dennis Benarz wrote: > > Hi Claudia > > I think I have detected the root of your Galician research problem. There > were no Greek Orthodox churches in the Austrian Crownland of Galicia around > 1900, so you'll have to refocus your research on the old Greek Catholic > parishes. > > According to 1900 Austrian records, the ancestral village would be LUKAWICA > near LISKO (Lesko) and its Greek Catholic residents attended the church at > MANASTERZEC. Unfortunately, I find no existing LDS microfilms for the > records of this particular church (or for several variations of the name). > > The entry for this village in "Slownik Geograficzny Krolestwo Polskiego" is > found in Volume 6, page 89, under the name MANASTERZ. That entry notes that > the village was also sometimes called MONASTERZ. The SGKP is online and you > can browse its many pages from your easy chair. > > To further add to the confusion, the village is now called MONASTERZEC on > contemporary maps. > > But now my crystal ball is growing hazy and dark so all I can add is that, > in rural SE Poland, wherever there is or was a church there's a cemetery. > > Have a nice, safe trip! > > Dennis > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "usinet.sbeggs" <sbeggs@attglobal.net> > To: <galicia@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:45 AM > Subject: [GALICIA] new search for Krawiecz, Karlitsky, Hudoba,Surgent from > Lukawica, Lesko, Galicia > > >I am new to the Galicia list, and have posted these details to the > >PolandBorder Surnames board recently, as well. > > > > In preparation for leaving for Poland May 25, I am looking for guidance on > > locating vital records for my Ruthenian (Carpatho-Rusyn) relatives who > > listed their place of origin as Lukawica, Lesko, Austria (Galicia). > > > > My grandfather, Oleksa Krawiecz, left Hamburg arriving in NY June 5, 1913. > > I have located his village, Lukavica, on the map just north of Lesko, near > > Sanok, Poland. > > > > I have looked at LDS film 766,021 for Rzeszow Greek Orthodox, as well as > > the Austrian Galizien film 948601, but was unable to find his parents > > Tomasz Krawiecz or Rose Hudoba, his mother, or Oleksa. I have the names > > and vital dates for Oleksa's brothers and sisters and grandfather, Andrej, > > but could not find any trace in the Greek Orthodox records. Brothers and > > sisters Eve, Julia, Nicholas, Wallace, Mary and Joseph were born near > > Lesko from 1886 to 1906. Thomas Krawiecz had a brother John and sister > > "Tilly" (?). > > > > I have ordered (but not received yet from LDS) film from Slownik > > Geograficzny Gazetteer for determining the parish, which I do not know. > > Oleksa converted to Lutheran while living in Pittsburgh, but the rest of > > the family practiced Orthodox rite. Does anyone know what the likely > > Orthodox church would be named in Lesko, and if there are cemeteries there > > or in Lukavica? > > > > My question is, since Oleksa was born in 1895 (i.e, over the 100 year > > mark), have the records now been transferred to Warsaw? Or are they in > > Sanok or Przemysl? I am considering hiring someone to help me navigate > > through the archives while I'm there for one week. > > > > I have no geographical information on Hudoba or Surgent (spelling > > changed?) They could be Slovakian or Hungarian? > > > > I would welcome any recommendations or comments from the group. > > > > Claudia (Kravetz) Hansen