To be a sister-in-law, she could have been a sister to your father's wife as well as wife to his brother. Dee > Hello Elaine, > > My message was one of pure speculation. I have a number of mysteries about > my father and this is just one of them. > > I have no idea on what basis Irena could have claimed to be my father's > sister in-law. There may be some other alternative but, had she been a > sister in-law, she would have been Irena Slugocka. My father only had one > brother and he was executed by the Soviets in 1940 so that relationship is > hardly likely - in any case my parents would have mentioned that to me. > My speculation is therefore that there was some other relationship between > my father and Irene. > > I don't have the time to chase this story down but perhaps someone, some > time in the future will see this exchange of messages and establish some > sort of link. If I had the time, and the skill I would try to track this > down. > > In the mean time I am appreciative of your reply and if you come across > any information or link I would be most appreciative. > > Yes, Hobart Australia is where my father ended up having started life in > Lwow. > > Best wishes > > Maciej Slugocki > Hobart, Australia > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: galicia-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:galicia-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of elaine frey > Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:15 PM > To: galicia@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GALICIA] name on manifest > > Hello Maciej > I can't believe you are in Australia and we are communicating.!!! However, > I > am sorry that I do not know of an Irene Pogorzelska. My grandmother was a > Pogorzelska in Poland, Antoinette. > Three Pogorzelskas came to live in Yonkers Marya who came with my Aunt > Karolina. Jadwiga and Josefa. I couldn't find anything on Josefa arriving > and found nothing on census reports etc for any of them. > I am going to check with a cousin from Connecticut and if she knows of an > Irene, I will let you know. > Regards. > Elaine > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Maciej Slugocki" <maciej.slugocki@iinet.net.au> > To: <galicia@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:35 AM > Subject: Re: [GALICIA] name on manifest > > >> Hi Elaine, >> >> I saved this message earlier because I wanted to check a letter and photo >> I found in my deceased father's papers. The content of the letter, >> written >> in English, from the Consul of Poland, on letterhead paper and dated July >> 26,1944 is as follows. >> >> "TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN: >> This is to certify that Miss Irena Pogorzelska, 41-33 Forley St., >> Elmhurst, L.I.N.Y., is a sister in law of Adam SLUGOCKI, a cadet-squad >> leader, M.P.O., 304 R.C.A.F., Ottawa, Canada. >> >> This is being issued at the request of Miss Irena Pogorzelska in support >> of the above named Adam SLUGOCKI's request to be permitted to visit her >> in >> New York on important family affairs." >> >> The content of the letter is intriguing to say the least. My question >> however Elaine is. Do you know of this Irene? >> >> Maciej Slugocki >> Hobart, Australia >> >> PS Irene is a very attractive lady. The photo was taken in summer 1943 >> in New York and Irene looks to be in her 20s. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: galicia-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:galicia-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of elaine frey >> Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2009 3:21 AM >> To: galicia@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [GALICIA] name on manifest >> >> Hi, I found a second cousin on a manifest: Jadwiga Pogorzelska,arrived >> Dec >> 18 1913, she was born 1897. >> She is # 11 on the manifest. >> In column 18 she states she is going to 80 Orchard st in Yonkers NY to >> her >> sister?????? Pogorzelska. >> Can you make out her name, >> Thanks, >> Elaine >> The house is still there >> ********************************* >> Need to contact the list manager? 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Hi Dee and Maciej There are commonly three relationships described as a "sister-in-law": the sister of one's spouse, the wife of one's brother, or the wife of one's brother-in-law. Less common ways of adding sisters-in-law would involve the remarriage of persons mentioned above. Given the fact that by July 1944 almost five years of war had elapsed, a good number of persons had become widows and/or widowers and some remarried. This results in new surnames entering our family trees. But, strange things can happen to familial relationships when translated and penned on documents, especially if it means a war-time pass to visit the Big Apple. I suspect that's what happened in this particular case. Maybe, maybe not. I love a mystery. Please keep us informed. Cheers! Dennis Benarz http://spuscizna.org/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dee Sager" <dsager@hughes.net> To: <galicia@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [GALICIA] name on manifest > > To be a sister-in-law, she could have been a sister to your father's wife > as > well as wife to his brother. > > Dee > > > >> Hello Elaine, >> >> My message was one of pure speculation. I have a number of mysteries >> about >> my father and this is just one of them. >> >> I have no idea on what basis Irena could have claimed to be my father's >> sister in-law. There may be some other alternative but, had she been a >> sister in-law, she would have been Irena Slugocka. My father only had >> one >> brother and he was executed by the Soviets in 1940 so that relationship >> is >> hardly likely - in any case my parents would have mentioned that to me. >> My speculation is therefore that there was some other relationship >> between >> my father and Irene. >> >> I don't have the time to chase this story down but perhaps someone, some >> time in the future will see this exchange of messages and establish some >> sort of link. If I had the time, and the skill I would try to track this >> down. >> >> In the mean time I am appreciative of your reply and if you come across >> any information or link I would be most appreciative. >> >> Yes, Hobart Australia is where my father ended up having started life in >> Lwow. >> >> Best wishes >> >> Maciej Slugocki >> Hobart, Australia >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: galicia-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:galicia-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of elaine frey >> Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:15 PM >> To: galicia@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [GALICIA] name on manifest >> >> Hello Maciej >> I can't believe you are in Australia and we are communicating.!!! >> However, >> I >> am sorry that I do not know of an Irene Pogorzelska. My grandmother was >> a >> Pogorzelska in Poland, Antoinette. >> Three Pogorzelskas came to live in Yonkers Marya who came with my Aunt >> Karolina. Jadwiga and Josefa. I couldn't find anything on Josefa >> arriving >> and found nothing on census reports etc for any of them. >> I am going to check with a cousin from Connecticut and if she knows of an >> Irene, I will let you know. >> Regards. >> Elaine >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Maciej Slugocki" <maciej.slugocki@iinet.net.au> >> To: <galicia@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:35 AM >> Subject: Re: [GALICIA] name on manifest >> >> >>> Hi Elaine, >>> >>> I saved this message earlier because I wanted to check a letter and >>> photo >>> I found in my deceased father's papers. The content of the letter, >>> written >>> in English, from the Consul of Poland, on letterhead paper and dated >>> July >>> 26,1944 is as follows. >>> >>> "TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN: >>> This is to certify that Miss Irena Pogorzelska, 41-33 Forley St., >>> Elmhurst, L.I.N.Y., is a sister in law of Adam SLUGOCKI, a cadet-squad >>> leader, M.P.O., 304 R.C.A.F., Ottawa, Canada. >>> >>> This is being issued at the request of Miss Irena Pogorzelska in support >>> of the above named Adam SLUGOCKI's request to be permitted to visit her >>> in >>> New York on important family affairs." >>> >>> The content of the letter is intriguing to say the least. My question >>> however Elaine is. Do you know of this Irene? >>> >>> Maciej Slugocki >>> Hobart, Australia >>> >>> PS Irene is a very attractive lady. The photo was taken in summer 1943 >>> in New York and Irene looks to be in her 20s. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: galicia-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:galicia-bounces@rootsweb.com] >>> On Behalf Of elaine frey >>> Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2009 3:21 AM >>> To: galicia@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [GALICIA] name on manifest >>> >>> Hi, I found a second cousin on a manifest: Jadwiga Pogorzelska,arrived >>> Dec >>> 18 1913, she was born 1897. >>> She is # 11 on the manifest. >>> In column 18 she states she is going to 80 Orchard st in Yonkers NY to >>> her >>> sister?????? Pogorzelska. >>> Can you make out her name, >>> Thanks, >>> Elaine >>> The house is still there >>> ********************************* >>> Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at >>> GALICIA-admin@rootsweb.com >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> GALICIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ********************************* >>> Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at >>> GALICIA-admin@rootsweb.com >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> GALICIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ********************************* >> Need to contact the list manager? 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Dennis, Thanks, I too suspect a war-time pass and I'm not surprised as Irene is a very attractive woman. I have never had the need to consider US records so I'll need to start learning. And there are two or three other pictures of attractive ladies - more fun, more mystery. Maciej Slugocki Hobart, Australia -----Original Message----- From: galicia-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:galicia-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Benarz Sent: Sunday, 14 June 2009 1:13 AM To: galicia@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GALICIA] name on manifest Hi Dee and Maciej There are commonly three relationships described as a "sister-in-law": the sister of one's spouse, the wife of one's brother, or the wife of one's brother-in-law. Less common ways of adding sisters-in-law would involve the remarriage of persons mentioned above. Given the fact that by July 1944 almost five years of war had elapsed, a good number of persons had become widows and/or widowers and some remarried. This results in new surnames entering our family trees. But, strange things can happen to familial relationships when translated and penned on documents, especially if it means a war-time pass to visit the Big Apple. I suspect that's what happened in this particular case. Maybe, maybe not. I love a mystery. Please keep us informed. Cheers! Dennis Benarz http://spuscizna.org/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dee Sager" <dsager@hughes.net> To: <galicia@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [GALICIA] name on manifest > > To be a sister-in-law, she could have been a sister to your father's wife > as > well as wife to his brother. > > Dee > > > >> Hello Elaine, >> >> My message was one of pure speculation. I have a number of mysteries >> about >> my father and this is just one of them. >> >> I have no idea on what basis Irena could have claimed to be my father's >> sister in-law. There may be some other alternative but, had she been a >> sister in-law, she would have been Irena Slugocka. My father only had >> one >> brother and he was executed by the Soviets in 1940 so that relationship >> is >> hardly likely - in any case my parents would have mentioned that to me. >> My speculation is therefore that there was some other relationship >> between >> my father and Irene. >> >> I don't have the time to chase this story down but perhaps someone, some >> time in the future will see this exchange of messages and establish some >> sort of link. If I had the time, and the skill I would try to track this >> down. >> >> In the mean time I am appreciative of your reply and if you come across >> any information or link I would be most appreciative. >> >> Yes, Hobart Australia is where my father ended up having started life in >> Lwow. >> >> Best wishes >> >> Maciej Slugocki >> Hobart, Australia >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: galicia-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:galicia-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of elaine frey >> Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:15 PM >> To: galicia@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [GALICIA] name on manifest >> >> Hello Maciej >> I can't believe you are in Australia and we are communicating.!!! >> However, >> I >> am sorry that I do not know of an Irene Pogorzelska. My grandmother was >> a >> Pogorzelska in Poland, Antoinette. >> Three Pogorzelskas came to live in Yonkers Marya who came with my Aunt >> Karolina. Jadwiga and Josefa. I couldn't find anything on Josefa >> arriving >> and found nothing on census reports etc for any of them. >> I am going to check with a cousin from Connecticut and if she knows of an >> Irene, I will let you know. >> Regards. >> Elaine >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Maciej Slugocki" <maciej.slugocki@iinet.net.au> >> To: <galicia@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:35 AM >> Subject: Re: [GALICIA] name on manifest >> >> >>> Hi Elaine, >>> >>> I saved this message earlier because I wanted to check a letter and >>> photo >>> I found in my deceased father's papers. The content of the letter, >>> written >>> in English, from the Consul of Poland, on letterhead paper and dated >>> July >>> 26,1944 is as follows. >>> >>> "TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN: >>> This is to certify that Miss Irena Pogorzelska, 41-33 Forley St., >>> Elmhurst, L.I.N.Y., is a sister in law of Adam SLUGOCKI, a cadet-squad >>> leader, M.P.O., 304 R.C.A.F., Ottawa, Canada. >>> >>> This is being issued at the request of Miss Irena Pogorzelska in support >>> of the above named Adam SLUGOCKI's request to be permitted to visit her >>> in >>> New York on important family affairs." >>> >>> The content of the letter is intriguing to say the least. My question >>> however Elaine is. Do you know of this Irene? >>> >>> Maciej Slugocki >>> Hobart, Australia >>> >>> PS Irene is a very attractive lady. The photo was taken in summer 1943 >>> in New York and Irene looks to be in her 20s. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: galicia-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:galicia-bounces@rootsweb.com] >>> On Behalf Of elaine frey >>> Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2009 3:21 AM >>> To: galicia@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [GALICIA] name on manifest >>> >>> Hi, I found a second cousin on a manifest: Jadwiga Pogorzelska,arrived >>> Dec >>> 18 1913, she was born 1897. >>> She is # 11 on the manifest. >>> In column 18 she states she is going to 80 Orchard st in Yonkers NY to >>> her >>> sister?????? Pogorzelska. >>> Can you make out her name, >>> Thanks, >>> Elaine >>> The house is still there >>> ********************************* >>> Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at >>> GALICIA-admin@rootsweb.com >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> GALICIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ********************************* >>> Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at >>> GALICIA-admin@rootsweb.com >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> GALICIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ********************************* >> Need to contact the list manager? 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