Hello, Susan, Here is the link to the manifest for a 1914 return to America for Tekla, Jozef, Jewka, and Stefania - going to husband and father Jan Wiktor. Closest relative in Poland was Tekla's father, Jan LIS. Dennis will tell us about the town of Brzostok, Zaborze - my read of the spelling. This page and previous page. http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=100473010228 MichellesBigBash@aol.com wrote: > > Hi, > My name is Susan. > > My grandmother, Eva Wiktor, was born in Chicago in 1908. Within a few years > of her birth, my great grandfather, John Wiktor, his wife, Tekla (Tillie) > Podraza Wiktor, and Eva went back to Poland. Times were tough, jobs were > scarce and within a few years, John Wiktor came back to Chicago. Tekla and Eva > stayed behind in Poland to sell their house and land. However, as WWI was > looming, they left the land with relatives to sell and came back to Chicago. > > The story goes that either a relative (possibly to the Podraza family) or a > very close friend begged them to take their son, Richard Lis, with them and > claim that he was their son so that he wouldn't have to go into the Polish > military. They may have reentered the US as the Lis family. > > Eva had a younger sister name Stefania. On Stefania's death certificate, > their mother's name is listed as: Tillie Lis (not Tillie Wiktor). (Note that I > checked this out and Teckla was never married to a Lis.) > > Eva married Walter Filar who died in Chicago in October 1969. A Richard Lis > attended his wake. > > In summary, I am unsure if I am related to the Lis family or not. If anyone > has any information, please feel free to contact me. >

The mystery is the marriage listing of Jan Wiktor and Thecla Podraza in 1900 at Holy Trinity Church. http://www.pgsa.org/CzuchMar.php Mary Snow wrote: > Hello, Susan, > > Here is the link to the manifest for a 1914 return to America for Tekla, > Jozef, Jewka, and Stefania - going to husband and father Jan Wiktor. > Closest relative in Poland was Tekla's father, Jan LIS. Dennis will > tell us about the town of Brzostok, Zaborze - my read of the spelling. > This page and previous page. > http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=100473010228 > > MichellesBigBash@aol.com wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> My name is Susan. >> >> My grandmother, Eva Wiktor, was born in Chicago in 1908. Within a few years >> of her birth, my great grandfather, John Wiktor, his wife, Tekla (Tillie) >> Podraza Wiktor, and Eva went back to Poland. Times were tough, jobs were >> scarce and within a few years, John Wiktor came back to Chicago. Tekla and Eva >> stayed behind in Poland to sell their house and land. However, as WWI was >> looming, they left the land with relatives to sell and came back to Chicago. >> >> The story goes that either a relative (possibly to the Podraza family) or a >> very close friend begged them to take their son, Richard Lis, with them and >> claim that he was their son so that he wouldn't have to go into the Polish >> military. They may have reentered the US as the Lis family. >> >> Eva had a younger sister name Stefania. On Stefania's death certificate, >> their mother's name is listed as: Tillie Lis (not Tillie Wiktor). (Note that I >> checked this out and Teckla was never married to a Lis.) >> >> Eva married Walter Filar who died in Chicago in October 1969. A Richard Lis >> attended his wake. >> >

Tekla Podraza immigration in 1899; note, she, like Tekla Wiktor, was blind in one eye. http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=603076060370 Mary Mary Snow wrote: > Hello, Susan, > > Here is the link to the manifest for a 1914 return to America for Tekla, > Jozef, Jewka, and Stefania - going to husband and father Jan Wiktor. > Closest relative in Poland was Tekla's father, Jan LIS. Dennis will > tell us about the town of Brzostok, Zaborze - my read of the spelling. > This page and previous page. > http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=100473010228 > > MichellesBigBash@aol.com wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> My name is Susan. >> >> My grandmother, Eva Wiktor, was born in Chicago in 1908. Within a few years >> of her birth, my great grandfather, John Wiktor, his wife, Tekla (Tillie) >> Podraza Wiktor, and Eva went back to Poland. Times were tough, jobs were >> scarce and within a few years, John Wiktor came back to Chicago. Tekla and Eva >> stayed behind in Poland to sell their house and land. However, as WWI was >> looming, they left the land with relatives to sell and came back to Chicago. >> >> The story goes that either a relative (possibly to the Podraza family) or a >> very close friend begged them to take their son, Richard Lis, with them and >> claim that he was their son so that he wouldn't have to go into the Polish >> military. They may have reentered the US as the Lis family. >> >> Eva had a younger sister name Stefania. On Stefania's death certificate, >> their mother's name is listed as: Tillie Lis (not Tillie Wiktor). (Note that I >> checked this out and Teckla was never married to a Lis.) >> >> Eva married Walter Filar who died in Chicago in October 1969. A Richard Lis >> attended his wake. >> >> In summary, I am unsure if I am related to the Lis family or not. If anyone >> has any information, please feel free to contact me. >> >

Hi Mary and Susan Dennis is totally befuddled tonight due to the changes at Hotmail affecting Outlook Express users. Among the newly discovered problems: none of Susan's postings to the Galicia list have reached my Hotmail inbox yet. Mary's replies are there, however. Go figure. So, please excuse my lackluster demeanor but my brain hurts. The town where the Wiktor farm was apparently located is Brzostek and in Brzostek Parish. The village where Tekla's "father" lived is apparently Zagorze, just a few miles away in Przeczyca Parish. The two places are close enough to be served by the same post office. The general area is about 5-10 miles south of Debica. On a map, just let your finger wander downward along the Wisloka River and you'll find them. Everything is in Debica County (Powiat Debicki). The mailing addresses: Znalezienia Krzyza Swietego (Holy Cross) ul. Sloneczna 1 39-230 Brzostek POLAND Najswietszej Maryi Panny Wniebowzietej (Assumption of the BVM) Przeczyca 1 39-230 Brzostek POLAND Now to the interesting question of how "father" Jan Lis has a "daughter" Tekla Podraza. There are all sorts of possibilities, starting with his being, in reality, her stepfather. But there are several more, including perhaps she was married previously or perhaps she was illegitimate or perhaps the relationship given on the manifest is incorrect.. I think you'd really need to research the records of Przeczyca Parish to find the answer. And lucky for you, LDS microfilmed the Przeczyca Parish records for the time period 1784-1945 at the Archives of the Diocese of Tarnow in 1994. The microfilms you want are #1900674 and #1900675. Now I need to lie down on the couch in front of the TV and mindlessly view whatever happens to be on. Good luck and good night! Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Snow" <marysnow@bellsouth.net> To: <galicia@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [GALICIA] name on manifest > Hello, Susan, > > Here is the link to the manifest for a 1914 return to America for Tekla, > Jozef, Jewka, and Stefania - going to husband and father Jan Wiktor. > Closest relative in Poland was Tekla's father, Jan LIS. Dennis will > tell us about the town of Brzostok, Zaborze - my read of the spelling. > This page and previous page. > http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=100473010228 > > MichellesBigBash@aol.com wrote: >> >> Hi, >> My name is Susan. >> >> My grandmother, Eva Wiktor, was born in Chicago in 1908. Within a few >> years >> of her birth, my great grandfather, John Wiktor, his wife, Tekla (Tillie) >> Podraza Wiktor, and Eva went back to Poland. Times were tough, jobs were >> scarce and within a few years, John Wiktor came back to Chicago. Tekla >> and Eva >> stayed behind in Poland to sell their house and land. However, as WWI was >> looming, they left the land with relatives to sell and came back to >> Chicago. >> >> The story goes that either a relative (possibly to the Podraza family) or >> a >> very close friend begged them to take their son, Richard Lis, with them >> and >> claim that he was their son so that he wouldn't have to go into the >> Polish >> military. They may have reentered the US as the Lis family. >> >> Eva had a younger sister name Stefania. On Stefania's death certificate, >> their mother's name is listed as: Tillie Lis (not Tillie Wiktor). (Note >> that I >> checked this out and Teckla was never married to a Lis.) >> >> Eva married Walter Filar who died in Chicago in October 1969. A Richard >> Lis >> attended his wake. >> >> In summary, I am unsure if I am related to the Lis family or not. If >> anyone >> has any information, please feel free to contact me. >> > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at > GALICIA-admin@rootsweb.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GALICIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >