Hi Maria I'm confused and when that happens it often means that something is misspelled or misconstrued in the family history. (Then again, maybe I'm simply not interpreting the facts properly.) You named several geographic places but none of them are very close to one another. The commuting times would have been horrendous and it contradicts the old research principle that apples generally fell near the tree in Malopolska (western Galicia). Such geographic mobility was usually only exhibited by the nobility. - Przewoz was in Bierzanow RC Parish which is adjacent to Krakow. Think Wieliczka and you've got the general area. - Baranow Castle is in Baranow Sandomierski RC Parish (Saint John the Baptist) and about 15 miles SW of Sandomierz. - Pilzno near Debica is in Pilzno's Saint John the Baptist Parish and is about 50 miles SW of Sandomierz and perhaps 65 miles east of Krakow. To further complicate matters, all of the surnames mentioned (Kohlmann, Lis, and Pogorzelski) can still be found in SE Poland but without any single large concentration in any single area. This makes it impossible to try to extrapolate locations with the given surnames. The only possible clue might be that Kolhmann is found spelled as Kohlman in SE Poland and in 1990 it could be found in the vicinities of Krakow (3), Tarnow (6), and Przemysl (3). So, at this moment I really can't help you any further than to offer you this advice. In family history research, it is always best to start at the present and research backward in time. I've just noticed that you live in Skopanie which was part of Baranow Sandomierski Parish, so you might have easy access to the parish records. If you haven't already done so, visit the rectory and ask. Records certainly exist for the period 1801-1884, although they might only be the civil transcriptions required by Austrian government. These were microfilmed (Films #948425, 948426, 948427, 948428 and 948429) by the Church of Latter Day Saints at Archiwum Panstwowe in Warsaw in 1973. I find old marriage records to be the most informative, but any old record is always interesting Cheers and good luck in your research! Dennis http://spuscizna.org/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "elaine frey" <cookie10710@verizon.net> To: <galicia@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [GALICIA] kohlmann and Lis > Sorry that I don't have too much info. I believe Kohlmann and Lis moved > near Baranow My grandmother, Marie Kohlmann Pogorzelski, lived in Przewoz, > worked at Baranow Castle and died about 100 years ago. > Marcin Lis was father of my grandfather, Antoni Lis; my gmother, Antonina > died in 1928. he died when he was in 90's. they are buried in Baranow, > but > I don't know anymore on my ggparents. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MJDallas" <rwlistsboards@comcast.net> > To: <galicia@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 12:06 PM > Subject: Re: [GALICIA] kohlmann and Lis > > >> elaine frey wrote: >>> I am looking for any info on my great grandparents, >>> Kazimierz and Helena Kohlmann came from Pilzno near Debica and >>> originally from Austria. >>> >>> Marcin and Maria Lis from Skopanie >> >> Maria, >> >> Welcome to the list! >> >> It might help folks help you better if you gave some sort of time >> frame and whether or not your ggps immigrated to another country >> (and where). Since you don't mention at least a year of birth, >> death, or marriage for your ggps, it makes it kind of harder to know >> what resources to look for them in. >> >> -Marie >> ********************************* >> Need to contact the list manager? >> GALICIA-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GALICIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? > GALICIA-admin@rootsweb.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GALICIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >