Dennis, A great website, Thanks> From: benarz@hotmail.com> To: galicia@rootsweb.com> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 13:55:08 -0600> Subject: Re: [GALICIA] kohlmann and Lis> > Hi Maria> > I'm confused and when that happens it often means that something is > misspelled or misconstrued in the family history. (Then again, maybe I'm > simply not interpreting the facts properly.)> > You named several geographic places but none of them are very close to one > another. The commuting times would have been horrendous and it contradicts > the old research principle that apples generally fell near the tree in > Malopolska (western Galicia). Such geographic mobility was usually only > exhibited by the nobility.> - Przewoz was in Bierzanow RC Parish which is adjacent to Krakow. Think > Wieliczka and you've got the general area.> - Baranow Castle is in Baranow Sandomierski RC Parish (Saint John the > Baptist) and about 15 miles SW of Sandomierz.> - Pilzno near Debica is in Pilzno's Saint John the Baptist Parish and is > about 50 miles SW of Sandomierz and perhaps 65 miles east of Krakow.> > To further complicate matters, all of the surnames mentioned (Kohlmann, Lis, > and Pogorzelski) can still be found in SE Poland but without any single > large concentration in any single area. This makes it impossible to try to > extrapolate locations with the given surnames. The only possible clue might > be that Kolhmann is found spelled as Kohlman in SE Poland and in 1990 it > could be found in the vicinities of Krakow (3), Tarnow (6), and Przemysl > (3).> > So, at this moment I really can't help you any further than to offer you > this advice. In family history research, it is always best to start at the > present and research backward in time. I've just noticed that you live in > Skopanie which was part of Baranow Sandomierski Parish, so you might have > easy access to the parish records. If you haven't already done so, visit the > rectory and ask. Records certainly exist for the period 1801-1884, although > they might only be the civil transcriptions required by Austrian government. > These were microfilmed (Films #948425, 948426, 948427, 948428 and 948429) by > the Church of Latter Day Saints at Archiwum Panstwowe in Warsaw in 1973.> > I find old marriage records to be the most informative, but any old record > is always interesting> > Cheers and good luck in your research!> > Dennis> http://spuscizna.org/> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "elaine frey" <cookie10710@verizon.net>> To: <galicia@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 12:06 PM> Subject: Re: [GALICIA] kohlmann and Lis> > > > Sorry that I don't have too much info. I believe Kohlmann and Lis moved> > near Baranow My grandmother, Marie Kohlmann Pogorzelski, lived in Przewoz,> > worked at Baranow Castle and died about 100 years ago.> > Marcin Lis was father of my grandfather, Antoni Lis; my gmother, Antonina> > died in 1928. he died when he was in 90's. they are buried in Baranow, > > but> > I don't know anymore on my ggparents.> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "MJDallas" <rwlistsboards@comcast.net>> > To: <galicia@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 12:06 PM> > Subject: Re: [GALICIA] kohlmann and Lis> >> >> >> elaine frey wrote:> >>> I am looking for any info on my great grandparents,> >>> Kazimierz and Helena Kohlmann came from Pilzno near Debica and> >>> originally from Austria.> >>>> >>> Marcin and Maria Lis from Skopanie> >>> >> Maria,> >>> >> Welcome to the list!> >>> >> It might help folks help you better if you gave some sort of time> >> frame and whether or not your ggps immigrated to another country> >> (and where). Since you don't mention at least a year of birth,> >> death, or marriage for your ggps, it makes it kind of harder to know> >> what resources to look for them in.> >>> >> -Marie> >> *********************************> >> Need to contact the list manager?> >> GALICIA-admin@rootsweb.com> >>> >>> >> -------------------------------> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> >> GALICIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >>> >> > *********************************> > Need to contact the list manager?> > GALICIA-admin@rootsweb.com> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > GALICIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > > *********************************> Need to contact the list manager?> GALICIA-admin@rootsweb.com> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GALICIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009