Whoa, Nellie! I only offered to research your grandmother's village in Galicia - not your entire family tree "wish list". There are no magical Polish elves lurking behind your display screen just waiting to jump out and do your work for you. OSHA regulations prohibit us from doing that. Your grandmother came from the small city of Nowy Sacz. It is an old settlement, found in old texts variously called "Sandechz" (1311), "Kamenicia" (1312), "Kamenecia" (1317), and Sandecz (1318). The city lies at the confluence of two rivers (Dunajec and Kamienica) near the older town of Stary Sacz. Like all cities, Nowy Sacz has had it ups and downs. Probably the one single event that hampered its future growth was large-scale destruction caused during the Swedish Deluge (1655-1660). In the 19th Century, Nowy Sacz had 11,185 residents. The ethnic breakdown: 10,788 Poles, 63 Russians, 123 Germanics, and 7 "others". The religious breakdown: 5,144 Roman Catholics, 560 Greek Catholics, 5,163 Jews, and 318 "others". Today, Nowy Sacz has about 85,000 residents. It is part of the Diocese of Tarnow and contains ten Roman Catholic parishes. During World War II, about 60% of the city was totally destroyed. Most of it's prewar Jewish population of 25,000 died during the war (many were sent to the Belzec Extermination Camp) and several hundred of its Christian residents were executed for aiding and sheltering Jews. It was a city with a conscience and was recognized with an official honorarium after the war. For more information, visit its official website: http://www.nowysacz.pl/ Cheers and good luck in your endeavor! Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Almrauscher" <almrauscher1@comcast.net> To: <galicia@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [GALICIA] REMAK SURNAME > Really! Great! > Ok here is what I have so far. > My grandmothers maiden name was Helen Wrobel. > I found a ship manifest that lists her as Hella Wrobel. Another document > lists her as Helena Wrobel. > > She came to the US according to family stories in 1906. Also on a census > it > lists her as coming in 1906. > The story is she came to the US in 1906 with her mother Mary, Maria,or > Maryanna- Wrobel. Then returned to Poland to bring back her younger > sister > Fannie-I believe is Stephania born in 1903. > > I found as stated above a ship manifest on March 10,1907 from Bremen to > New > York. Next to her name is stamped return. next to her sister is stamped > admitted. (another person has deported stamped next to their name) > This indicates to me that she was here and this was a return trip to the > US > validating census info on arrival date and family oral tradition. > Home is listed as Novy Lacz. But it is hard to read it may say NovySacz. > Her application for Social Security lists home as Novy Sonch. I understand > Novy Sacz,Novy Sonch has about 40 variant spellings. > > I would like to find Anton Wrobel's initial arrival in the us prior to > 1/25/1901. > I would like to find Mary Wrobel and Helen Wrobel arriving in 1906 > I would like to find Victoria Lesaks initial arrival in US > I would like to find Charles (Carl) Richard Wurzburg of Germany arrival in > US > I would like to find Elizabeth Lesak's arrival in US > I would like to find her husband Sanislaw Nowak's arrival in US > I would like to find Felix Lesaks arrival in US > I would like to find Kazimierz(Casimir) Lesak's arrival in US (and wife > Josephine) > I would like to find Jan Lesak and wife Salameja arrival in US. > Any information more on the Lesak and Wrobel family would be appreciated. > > 1/25/1901-I have found Maria (Lesak) Wrobel coming to the US ,NY,on SS > LAHN, to visit Husband Anton Wrobel in Waterbury Conneticut. She has Jan > andStanislava(may be Stella born 1900) with her. Lists Stanislava as 8 > months. from Dorozce > > 1904/5- Casimir Lesak and wife Josephine come o US > > March 1906- oral tradition- Helen Wrobel comes to US with Mother Mary > 1906 - Census of 1920 indicates initial immigration of Helen Wrobel in > 1906, Citizenship papers indicate March 1906 as well. > > March 10,1907- Helen and Stanislava come to NY on SS Brandenburg from > Bremen > > 7/13/1908 I find Charles Richard Wurzburg and Wife Victoria (Lesak) > Wurzburg > coming to the US with Stella on Graf Waldersee from Cuxhaven to NY > > 7/13/1908 I find Johann Wrobel coming to US on Graf Waldersee to NY to > visit > Uncle Richard Wurzburg. last in US 1902 Waterbury Connecticut visiting > Father Anton Wrobel > Johann was listed as Jan in 1901 > > May 20, 1909 -Maria Wrobel and Stephania from Bremen to Galveston on SS > Koln > from Kaduk Galicy. previous in US 1901/1908 > > 1/11/1910 - Antoni Wrobel arrives from Bremen Germany to Galveston on > Chemnitz from Dabrowka Galicy wih Weronika and Joseph > > May 3 1911- Franciszek and Michal arrive Galveston they are from Dabrowka > > Here is the family tree as I know it. > > > Franciszek Lesak- Maria Domanski -Children -Maria, > Victoria,Elizabeth,Felix,Franciszek,Kazimier,Jan,Karol > Franciszek and Maria remained in Poland > > US > MARIA LESAK > ANTON WROBEL > \ > Helena > Weronika(Winnie) > Stanislava(Stella) > Michal > Franciszek > John > Jozeph > Maria- Remained in Nysa , Husband; ____Kisza, 5/6 sons > Jan,Jozef,Adam,Jerzy,Szezepan > > > US > Victoria Lesak > Charles Richard Wurzburg > > > US > Elizabeth Lesak > Stanislaw Nowak > > US > Felix Lesak > > US > Kazimir (Casimir)Lesak > Josephine_____ > > US > Jan Lesak > Salameja_____ > > Poland-Krakow > Karol Lesak > Regina Szczep > \Childern > Karoline Lesak Husband Wincenty Mitka- 2 sons died WWII > Marian Lesak Wife Weronika Garnalzi- son Janusz died in Childhood, > Daughter > Eva Lesak married Kazimierz Glowacki > > Poland-Novy Sacz > Franciszek Lesak > Maria ___(Krol?) > / > daughter > Janina Lesak (Krol) > > Janina Lesak (Krol)/Tadeusz Zaranek- > /Children > Maria, > Tadeusz, > Karol, > Edmund, > Irena, > Marta, > Stamistawa - son Jozef Keller > > Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 6:48 AM > Subject: Re: [GALICIA] REMAK SURNAME > > >> Hi Jeff >> >> My offer still stands. Give us the place name of your grandmother's >> village >> and I'll research it for you. >> >> Dennis > > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at > GALICIA-admin@rootsweb.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GALICIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Well thank you. I misunderstood your offer. The information about Novy Sacz was very interesting. I was not asking for you to do all my family tree research for me. But , had hoped that you could perhaps find something to keep me going that I had not found. That was why I provided all the information which I had found ( for your information I have been very lucky and have found most of the graves of these people. I also found WWI draft registration, ) The search has been fun, interesting, frustrating, expensive, time consuming. but all in all I am very happy to have found the information I have found and have gotten to know family I have never met. It kind of keeps them alive if you know what i mean. I recently have been contacted by a distant cousin my my grandmother's (Helen) youngest Sister's (Fannie) granddaughter.. They have informed me that they have some old letters/cards from Poland and photos of these people ( I too have photos of relatives but have no idea who they are). I understand she has put names to the photos she has. good news. ( I have been over and over the New York manifests and do not find Anton Wrobel coming to the US. I find him in Waterbury Connecticut in 1901.. That information is from the ship manifest of his wife an children coming into New York) Any Ideas where to look? Any idea what church to contact in Novy Sacz or the region to see if the church can do some research for me? Do they have telephone books as available as we have here? How do I get one to look for people with the same last names I am researching?.. to see if I can find any living relatives. I am pretty happy with my research I have done. I knew nothing of this side of the family growing up. With the exception of knowing my grandmother and her sisters personally. Beyond that I never met any of their family or new anything about the family other than the names Wrobel, Lesak and the town of Novy Sacz. Any help or ideas you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again Jeff ---- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Benarz" <benarz@hotmail.com> To: <galicia@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 4:37 AM Subject: Re: [GALICIA] REMAK SURNAME > Whoa, Nellie! > > I only offered to research your grandmother's village in Galicia - not > your > entire family tree "wish list". There are no magical Polish elves lurking > behind your display screen just waiting to jump out and do your work for > you. OSHA regulations prohibit us from doing that. > > Your grandmother came from the small city of Nowy Sacz. It is an old > settlement, found in old texts variously called "Sandechz" (1311), > "Kamenicia" (1312), "Kamenecia" (1317), and Sandecz (1318). The city lies > at > the confluence of two rivers (Dunajec and Kamienica) near the older town > of > Stary Sacz. Like all cities, Nowy Sacz has had it ups and downs. Probably > the one single event that hampered its future growth was large-scale > destruction caused during the Swedish Deluge (1655-1660). In the 19th > Century, Nowy Sacz had 11,185 residents. The ethnic breakdown: 10,788 > Poles, > 63 Russians, 123 Germanics, and 7 "others". The religious breakdown: 5,144 > Roman Catholics, 560 Greek Catholics, 5,163 Jews, and 318 "others". > > Today, Nowy Sacz has about 85,000 residents. It is part of the Diocese of > Tarnow and contains ten Roman Catholic parishes. During World War II, > about > 60% of the city was totally destroyed. Most of it's prewar Jewish > population > of 25,000 died during the war (many were sent to the Belzec Extermination > Camp) and several hundred of its Christian residents were executed for > aiding and sheltering Jews. It was a city with a conscience and was > recognized with an official honorarium after the war. > > For more information, visit its official website: http://www.nowysacz.pl/ > > Cheers and good luck in your endeavor! > > Dennis > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Almrauscher" <almrauscher1@comcast.net> > To: <galicia@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:41 AM > Subject: Re: [GALICIA] REMAK SURNAME > > >> Really! Great! >> Ok here is what I have so far. >> My grandmothers maiden name was Helen Wrobel. >> I found a ship manifest that lists her as Hella Wrobel. Another document >> lists her as Helena Wrobel. >> >> She came to the US according to family stories in 1906. Also on a census >> it >> lists her as coming in 1906. >> The story is she came to the US in 1906 with her mother Mary, Maria,or >> Maryanna- Wrobel. Then returned to Poland to bring back her younger >> sister >> Fannie-I believe is Stephania born in 1903. >> >> I found as stated above a ship manifest on March 10,1907 from Bremen to >> New >> York. Next to her name is stamped return. next to her sister is stamped >> admitted. (another person has deported stamped next to their name) >> This indicates to me that she was here and this was a return trip to the >> US >> validating census info on arrival date and family oral tradition. >> Home is listed as Novy Lacz. But it is hard to read it may say NovySacz. >> Her application for Social Security lists home as Novy Sonch. I >> understand >> Novy Sacz,Novy Sonch has about 40 variant spellings. >> >> I would like to find Anton Wrobel's initial arrival in the us prior to >> 1/25/1901. >> I would like to find Mary Wrobel and Helen Wrobel arriving in 1906 >> I would like to find Victoria Lesaks initial arrival in US >> I would like to find Charles (Carl) Richard Wurzburg of Germany arrival >> in >> US >> I would like to find Elizabeth Lesak's arrival in US >> I would like to find her husband Sanislaw Nowak's arrival in US >> I would like to find Felix Lesaks arrival in US >> I would like to find Kazimierz(Casimir) Lesak's arrival in US (and wife >> Josephine) >> I would like to find Jan Lesak and wife Salameja arrival in US. >> Any information more on the Lesak and Wrobel family would be appreciated. >> >> 1/25/1901-I have found Maria (Lesak) Wrobel coming to the US ,NY,on SS >> LAHN, to visit Husband Anton Wrobel in Waterbury Conneticut. She has Jan >> andStanislava(may be Stella born 1900) with her. Lists Stanislava as 8 >> months. from Dorozce >> >> 1904/5- Casimir Lesak and wife Josephine come o US >> >> March 1906- oral tradition- Helen Wrobel comes to US with Mother Mary >> 1906 - Census of 1920 indicates initial immigration of Helen Wrobel in >> 1906, Citizenship papers indicate March 1906 as well. >> >> March 10,1907- Helen and Stanislava come to NY on SS Brandenburg from >> Bremen >> >> 7/13/1908 I find Charles Richard Wurzburg and Wife Victoria (Lesak) >> Wurzburg >> coming to the US with Stella on Graf Waldersee from Cuxhaven to NY >> >> 7/13/1908 I find Johann Wrobel coming to US on Graf Waldersee to NY to >> visit >> Uncle Richard Wurzburg. last in US 1902 Waterbury Connecticut visiting >> Father Anton Wrobel >> Johann was listed as Jan in 1901 >> >> May 20, 1909 -Maria Wrobel and Stephania from Bremen to Galveston on SS >> Koln >> from Kaduk Galicy. previous in US 1901/1908 >> >> 1/11/1910 - Antoni Wrobel arrives from Bremen Germany to Galveston on >> Chemnitz from Dabrowka Galicy wih Weronika and Joseph >> >> May 3 1911- Franciszek and Michal arrive Galveston they are from >> Dabrowka >> >> Here is the family tree as I know it. >> >> >> Franciszek Lesak- Maria Domanski -Children -Maria, >> Victoria,Elizabeth,Felix,Franciszek,Kazimier,Jan,Karol >> Franciszek and Maria remained in Poland >> >> US >> MARIA LESAK >> ANTON WROBEL >> \ >> Helena >> Weronika(Winnie) >> Stanislava(Stella) >> Michal >> Franciszek >> John >> Jozeph >> Maria- Remained in Nysa , Husband; ____Kisza, 5/6 sons >> Jan,Jozef,Adam,Jerzy,Szezepan >> >> >> US >> Victoria Lesak >> Charles Richard Wurzburg >> >> >> US >> Elizabeth Lesak >> Stanislaw Nowak >> >> US >> Felix Lesak >> >> US >> Kazimir (Casimir)Lesak >> Josephine_____ >> >> US >> Jan Lesak >> Salameja_____ >> >> Poland-Krakow >> Karol Lesak >> Regina Szczep >> \Childern >> Karoline Lesak Husband Wincenty Mitka- 2 sons died WWII >> Marian Lesak Wife Weronika Garnalzi- son Janusz died in Childhood, >> Daughter >> Eva Lesak married Kazimierz Glowacki >> >> Poland-Novy Sacz >> Franciszek Lesak >> Maria ___(Krol?) >> / >> daughter >> Janina Lesak (Krol) >> >> Janina Lesak (Krol)/Tadeusz Zaranek- >> /Children >> Maria, >> Tadeusz, >> Karol, >> Edmund, >> Irena, >> Marta, >> Stamistawa - son Jozef Keller >> >> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 6:48 AM >> Subject: Re: [GALICIA] REMAK SURNAME >> >> >>> Hi Jeff >>> >>> My offer still stands. Give us the place name of your grandmother's >>> village >>> and I'll research it for you. >>> >>> Dennis >> >> ********************************* >> Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at >> GALICIA-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GALICIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at > GALICIA-admin@rootsweb.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GALICIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message