Jeff, The Mormons microfilmed records from Nowy Sacz. You can find the numbers of the microfilm by using the place search at familysearch.org: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp Nowy Sa;cz Poland, Kraków, Nowy Sa;cz Ksie;gi metrykalne, 1671-1948 Roman Catholic parish register of baptisms, marriages, and deaths for the parish of Nowy Sa;cz, Kraków, Poland; formerly Neusandez, Galicia, Austria. You can order these records at your nearest Family History Center: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp You may wish also to gather as many civil and church records in the United States to correlate the information you have already found. A suggestion: spreadsheet with names, dates of birth, place of origin, and all information for each person to have in order to provide some order to the information you have already found. Were the people who landed in Galveston related to your family? I'm a little suspicious of the Mary you have found going to her husband in Connecticut; this family does not seem to match any information about other names you have listed. Did Helen move to Milwaukee after she lived in Little Rock - as so many others on your list appear to have lived and died there. What was the place of birth for those whose WWI draft registration cards you have found? Is there a document stating that Helen's parents were Antoni and Mary/Maria Lesak Wrobel? What was the name of Helen's husband? According to census records in Milwaukee, Casimir Lesak was Josephine's second husband; Josephine had a daughter Michaelina from her first marriage. John and Salome Lesak both indicate b. Wisconsin, with parents b. West Prussia, mother tongue of parents Polish (1920 census). Elizabeth Lesak immigration to brother John in Milwaukee with two of his children. This John Lesak was married to Mary. http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=102403030085 Passenger record: First Name: Elzbieta Last Name: Lesak Ethnicity: Austria, Polish Last Place of Residence: Dobrowkanie miecka Date of Arrival: May 20, 1905 Age at Arrival: 22y Gender: F Marital Status: S Ship of Travel: Prinzess Alice Port of Departure: Bremen Manifest Line Number: 0025 Regards, Mary Almrauscher wrote: > Well thank you. I misunderstood your offer. The information about Novy Sacz > was very interesting. > I was not asking for you to do all my family tree research for me. But , had > hoped that you could perhaps find something to keep me going that I had not > found. > > That was why I provided all the information which I had found ( for your > information I have been very lucky and have found most of the graves of > these people. > I also found WWI draft registration, ) > > The search has been fun, interesting, frustrating, expensive, time > consuming. but all in all I am very happy to have found the information I > have found and have gotten to know family I have never met. It kind of keeps > them alive if you know what i mean. > > I recently have been contacted by a distant cousin my my grandmother's > (Helen) youngest Sister's (Fannie) granddaughter.. > They have informed me that they have some old letters/cards from Poland and > photos of these people ( I too have photos of relatives but have no idea who > they are). > I understand she has put names to the photos she has. good news. > > ( I have been over and over the New York manifests and do not find Anton > Wrobel coming to the US. I find him in Waterbury Connecticut in 1901.. That > information is from the ship manifest of his wife an children coming into > New York) Any Ideas where to look? > > Any idea what church to contact in Novy Sacz or the region to see if the > church can do some research for me? > > Do they have telephone books as available as we have here? How do I get one > to look for people with the same last names I am researching?.. to see if I > can find any living relatives. > > I am pretty happy with my research I have done. I knew nothing of this side > of the family growing up. With the exception of knowing my grandmother and > her sisters personally. > Beyond that I never met any of their family or new anything about the family > other than the names Wrobel, Lesak and the town of Novy Sacz. > > Any help or ideas you can provide would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks again > Jeff > >

Hi Jeff, Second thoughts about the Connecticut connection (no pun intended). Is it possible that Antoni and Mary/Maria Wrobel returned to Poland to live the rest of their lives? In 1908, when Johann Wrobel travelled from Poland to his uncle Richard (Charles) in Little Rock, he states that he was in Waterbury, CT in 1902 and that his closest relative in Poland was his father Antoni in Neusandez. http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=101813110152 This search engine for Ellis Island may help you with the sounds like feature to cover misspellings: http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellis.html Mary Mary Snow wrote: > Jeff, > > The Mormons microfilmed records from Nowy Sacz. You can find the > numbers of the microfilm by using the place search at familysearch.org: > http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp > > Nowy Sa;cz > Poland, Kraków, Nowy Sa;cz > Ksie;gi metrykalne, 1671-1948 > Roman Catholic parish register of baptisms, marriages, and deaths for > the parish of Nowy Sa;cz, Kraków, Poland; formerly Neusandez, Galicia, > Austria. > > You can order these records at your nearest Family History Center: > http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp > > You may wish also to gather as many civil and church records in the > United States to correlate the information you have already found. A > suggestion: spreadsheet with names, dates of birth, place of origin, and > all information for each person to have in order to provide some order > to the information you have already found. Were the people who landed > in Galveston related to your family? I'm a little suspicious of the > Mary you have found going to her husband in Connecticut; this family > does not seem to match any information about other names you have > listed. Did Helen move to Milwaukee after she lived in Little Rock - > as so many others on your list appear to have lived and died there. > > What was the place of birth for those whose WWI draft registration cards > you have found? > > Is there a document stating that Helen's parents were Antoni and > Mary/Maria Lesak Wrobel? > > What was the name of Helen's husband? > > According to census records in Milwaukee, Casimir Lesak was Josephine's > second husband; Josephine had a daughter Michaelina from her first > marriage. John and Salome Lesak both indicate b. Wisconsin, with > parents b. West Prussia, mother tongue of parents Polish (1920 census). > > Elizabeth Lesak immigration to brother John in Milwaukee with two of his > children. This John Lesak was married to Mary. > > http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=102403030085 > > Passenger record: > > First Name: Elzbieta > Last Name: Lesak > Ethnicity: Austria, Polish > Last Place of Residence: Dobrowkanie miecka > Date of Arrival: May 20, 1905 > Age at Arrival: 22y Gender: F Marital Status: S > Ship of Travel: Prinzess Alice > Port of Departure: Bremen > Manifest Line Number: 0025 > > Regards, > Mary > > Almrauscher wrote: > >> Well thank you. I misunderstood your offer. The information about Novy Sacz >> was very interesting. >> I was not asking for you to do all my family tree research for me. But , had >> hoped that you could perhaps find something to keep me going that I had not >> found. >> >> That was why I provided all the information which I had found ( for your >> information I have been very lucky and have found most of the graves of >> these people. >> I also found WWI draft registration, ) >> >> The search has been fun, interesting, frustrating, expensive, time >> consuming. but all in all I am very happy to have found the information I >> have found and have gotten to know family I have never met. It kind of keeps >> them alive if you know what i mean. >> >> I recently have been contacted by a distant cousin my my grandmother's >> (Helen) youngest Sister's (Fannie) granddaughter.. >> They have informed me that they have some old letters/cards from Poland and >> photos of these people ( I too have photos of relatives but have no idea who >> they are). >> I understand she has put names to the photos she has. good news. >> >> ( I have been over and over the New York manifests and do not find Anton >> Wrobel coming to the US. I find him in Waterbury Connecticut in 1901.. That >> information is from the ship manifest of his wife an children coming into >> New York) Any Ideas where to look? >> >> Any idea what church to contact in Novy Sacz or the region to see if the >> church can do some research for me? >> >> Do they have telephone books as available as we have here? How do I get one >> to look for people with the same last names I am researching?.. to see if I >> can find any living relatives. >> >> I am pretty happy with my research I have done. I knew nothing of this side >> of the family growing up. With the exception of knowing my grandmother and >> her sisters personally. >> Beyond that I never met any of their family or new anything about the family >> other than the names Wrobel, Lesak and the town of Novy Sacz. >> >> Any help or ideas you can provide would be greatly appreciated. >> Thanks again >> Jeff >> >> >> > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at GALICIA-admin@rootsweb.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GALICIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

When my father died I found a hand drawn family tree of the Lesak wrobel family. I believe it was made by family in Poland who are now dead. I am providing the info on those who came to the US. I start with the Lesak's and their spouses. The info was helpful in search ut some of it was in error. Spelling. I start with the Lesak's and their spouses with alternative spellings as found in documents- Census, Death Cert, Citizenship, Social Sec, Ship Manifest,Index cards, Famtree Lesak Family Maria Lesak/ Anton Wrobel,- also asMaria Wrobel, Mary Wrobel, Maryanna Wrobel, Antoni Wrobel Wiktoria Lesak/ Richard Witzburg,-found in LittleRock as Victoria Wurzburg/Charles Richard Wurzburg,Chas R Wurzburg, Richard Wurzburg,CRWurzburg Elisabeth Lesak/ Stanislaw Nowak, Felix Lesak, Kazimierz Lesak,Josephine ____, Casimir Lesak Jan Lesak/Salameja, John Lesak/Sally Lesak Wrobel Family Helena Wrobel, HellaWrobel, Helen Wobel Weronika Wrobel- we knew her as Winnie-Family tree lists her husband. so this is right Stella Wrobel(based upon age I believe this is Stanislava) Stephania Wrobel-(family tree has her husband- this is as I knew her Fannie) Michal Wrobel- This is Michael, Mike- based on age and census, manifest, draft Franciszek Wrobel- this is Frank-based on age manifest census,draft Jan Wrobel, Johann , John- based on index card, manifests, census age Jozef-Joseph, Joe My grandmother Helen told me she came to the US with her mother, she then returned and to Poland to get her soungest sister Fannie and bring her here. She then went to Arkansas and worked for her uncles restaurant. After finding the tree I found my grandmother Hella Wrobel coming to US on SS Brandenburg from Bremen to NY 3/10/1907,going to Aunt; Chas R Wurzburg- Chas R Wurzburg/ Richard Witzburg (must be same person) I then find a manifest and index card for Maria Wrobel, Jan and Stanislava coming to US 1/25/1901 to visit her husband Antoni Wrobel in Waterbury Connecticut. I never heard of Waterbury Connecticut- but bear with the story as I tell it. I then find Charles Richard Wurzburg and wife Victoria and Stella returning to the US on Graf Waldersee from Germany,1 Aug 1908. On same ship is Johann Wrobel. Johann is going to Uncle Wurzburg in Arkansas. Johann lists his previous visit to the US in 1902 to see his faher Anton Wrobel in Waterbury Connecticut. The Family Tree listing Richard Wurzburg, Ship Manifest Hella Wrobel going to Chas R Wurzburg, story of Arkansas, Marriage in Texas, Ship Manifest of 1901- Connecticut, Manifest of Johann going to Uncle Wurzburg LitteRock Arkansas and being her in 1902 to see father Anton Wrobel Waterbury Connecticut does pull everything together. My grandmother married her husband in Dallas. He came in through Galveston. I find Anton Weronika and Joseph entering in Galveston. I also find Marie Wrobel returning to US Galveston with Staphania to see husband Anton, Michael and Franciszek also going to father in Dallas, Some how they all or most made there way to Milwaukee, Where my parents and aunts and uncles were born. With the exception of 2 brothers all the family entered the US to Galveston prior to my granparents marriage in Jan 1910 Helen Wrobel/ August Assmann- He came in to galveson but under an assumed name. You will no find him under his own name. Yes I have my grandmothers Social Security application where she lists her parents as Anton /Mary Wrobel- had drawn family tree... Also what My grandmother told me when i was young.. Yes Helens parens were Anton /Mary (Lesak) Wrobel There may be 2 john Lesaks. Is Elzbieta Lesak my Elisabeth? that is one of my questions. I have found her and the 2 children she brings to Milwaukee. Here is what makes this perplexing is the John Lesak is living in the house next door to Mary (Lesak) Wrobel... Coincidense? Brother or stranger? If this is my John Lesak then Elzbiete is my Elisabeth (Lesak) Nowak ----- Original Message ----- f this iFrom: "Mary Snow" <marysnow@bellsouth.net> To: <galicia@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [GALICIA] Lesak Wrobel Jeff, The Mormons microfilmed records from Nowy Sacz. You can find the numbers of the microfilm by using the place search at familysearch.org: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp Nowy Sa;cz Poland, Kraków, Nowy Sa;cz Ksie;gi metrykalne, 1671-1948 Roman Catholic parish register of baptisms, marriages, and deaths for the parish of Nowy Sa;cz, Kraków, Poland; formerly Neusandez, Galicia, Austria. You can order these records at your nearest Family History Center: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp You may wish also to gather as many civil and church records in the United States to correlate the information you have already found. A suggestion: spreadsheet with names, dates of birth, place of origin, and all information for each person to have in order to provide some order to the information you have already found. Were the people who landed in Galveston related to your family? I'm a little suspicious of the Mary you have found going to her husband in Connecticut; this family does not seem to match any information about other names you have listed. Did Helen move to Milwaukee after she lived in Little Rock - as so many others on your list appear to have lived and died there. What was the place of birth for those whose WWI draft registration cards you have found? Is there a document stating that Helen's parents were Antoni and Mary/Maria Lesak Wrobel? What was the name of Helen's husband? According to census records in Milwaukee, Casimir Lesak was Josephine's second husband; Josephine had a daughter Michaelina from her first marriage. John and Salome Lesak both indicate b. Wisconsin, with parents b. West Prussia, mother tongue of parents Polish (1920 census). Elizabeth Lesak immigration to brother John in Milwaukee with two of his children. This John Lesak was married to Mary. http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=102403030085 Passenger record: First Name: Elzbieta Last Name: Lesak Ethnicity: Austria, Polish Last Place of Residence: Dobrowkanie miecka Date of Arrival: May 20, 1905 Age at Arrival: 22y Gender: F Marital Status: S Ship of Travel: Prinzess Alice Port of Departure: Bremen Manifest Line Number: 0025 Regards, Mary Almrauscher wrote: > Well thank you. I misunderstood your offer. The information about Novy > Sacz > was very interesting. > I was not asking for you to do all my family tree research for me. But , > had > hoped that you could perhaps find something to keep me going that I had > not > found. > > That was why I provided all the information which I had found ( for your > information I have been very lucky and have found most of the graves of > these people. > I also found WWI draft registration, ) > > The search has been fun, interesting, frustrating, expensive, time > consuming. but all in all I am very happy to have found the information I > have found and have gotten to know family I have never met. It kind of > keeps > them alive if you know what i mean. > > I recently have been contacted by a distant cousin my my grandmother's > (Helen) youngest Sister's (Fannie) granddaughter.. > They have informed me that they have some old letters/cards from Poland > and > photos of these people ( I too have photos of relatives but have no idea > who > they are). > I understand she has put names to the photos she has. good news. > > ( I have been over and over the New York manifests and do not find Anton > Wrobel coming to the US. I find him in Waterbury Connecticut in 1901.. > That > information is from the ship manifest of his wife an children coming into > New York) Any Ideas where to look? > > Any idea what church to contact in Novy Sacz or the region to see if the > church can do some research for me? > > Do they have telephone books as available as we have here? How do I get > one > to look for people with the same last names I am researching?.. to see if > I > can find any living relatives. > > I am pretty happy with my research I have done. I knew nothing of this > side > of the family growing up. With the exception of knowing my grandmother and > her sisters personally. > Beyond that I never met any of their family or new anything about the > family > other than the names Wrobel, Lesak and the town of Novy Sacz. > > Any help or ideas you can provide would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks again > Jeff > > ********************************* Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at GALICIA-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GALICIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message