Have been transcribing some parish birth/baptismal information from a FHL microfilm for Ruda, Mielec, Poland. The register entries are in Latin and one of the entries has a notation made at a later date which may have been the date of death. The subsequent notation is: †23/II 1922 My guess is that the II represents a month, but which one? Does II stand for the second month (February)? Or is II a shorthand for VII (September)? Or does it represent something else? Has anyone else come across this? Tom

Tom Malek wrote: > > Have been transcribing some parish birth/baptismal information from a > FHL microfilm for Ruda, Mielec, Poland. The register entries are in > Latin and one of the entries has a notation made at a later date which > may have been the date of death. The subsequent notation is: > �23/II 1922 > My guess is that the II represents a month, but which one? Does II stand > for the second month (February)? Or is II a shorthand for VII > (September)? Or does it represent something else? > Has anyone else come across this? > Tom ********* Tom, They used Roman numerals for months ..... January = I, February = II, and so on up to December = XII. ________ Lavrentiy Krupniak

Hi Tom In Poland, you'll find that something like an asterisk or star preceding a date signifies birth and a cross preceding a date signifies death. This "Polish shorthand" is also apparent on many grave markers. Here's an image of the plaque on the mausoleum of the noble Joblonowski Family of the Przyborow Estate in our ancestral parish cemetery. It illustrates use of the symbols. See: http://spuscizna.org/imagess/lg-wiz-r4-12.jpg . "22/II 1922" is indeed a date. In the customary European fashion, it is the day, month, and year. In this case, It's the 22nd day of February 1922 or, more simply, 22 February 1922. As the parish priest would receive requests for confirmation of various sacramental issues on a former parishioner, he would often write down new information that he garnered from the request.. In this particular case, the priests was probably asked to confirm that the individual had been duly baptized so that he/she could be buried in consecrated soil. From that request, the priest added the notation of the date of death to the baptismal record that he was viewing. It still happens all the time. It kind of makes you wonder what's noted on your "permanent record", doesn't it? Cheers! Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Malek" <tsmalek@post.harvard.edu> To: "GALICIA" <galicia@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 10:00 PM Subject: [GALICIA] Parish Register Date Entry Have been transcribing some parish birth/baptismal information from a FHL microfilm for Ruda, Mielec, Poland. The register entries are in Latin and one of the entries has a notation made at a later date which may have been the date of death. The subsequent notation is: †23/II 1922 My guess is that the II represents a month, but which one? Does II stand for the second month (February)? Or is II a shorthand for VII (September)? Or does it represent something else? Has anyone else come across this? Tom ********************************* Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at GALICIA-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GALICIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

you are right about your guess. II is roman numeral 2 for the second month and is commonly used in Poland for February ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Malek" <tsmalek@post.harvard.edu> To: "GALICIA" <galicia@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 11:00 PM Subject: [GALICIA] Parish Register Date Entry Have been transcribing some parish birth/baptismal information from a FHL microfilm for Ruda, Mielec, Poland. The register entries are in Latin and one of the entries has a notation made at a later date which may have been the date of death. The subsequent notation is: †23/II 1922 My guess is that the II represents a month, but which one? Does II stand for the second month (February)? Or is II a shorthand for VII (September)? Or does it represent something else? Has anyone else come across this? Tom ********************************* Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at GALICIA-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GALICIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message