Dennis: Your suggestion was most helpful! I didn't even think of trying to contact the existing parish at Myscowa, blinders on and believing the records had definitely been transferred to the Archives. Perhaps they have not, and if indeed they have, perhaps the parish will know which archive actually holds the old records. (And shame on me for not thinking to do so! see what I mean about looking at something too long when another pair of eyes is most helpful at seeing what was under my nose the entire time!) I know the church is still used today, sporadically, though the religious orientation has changed a bit from the late 1880's, perhaps the clergy there can be of some assistance. I have seen and recorded the pertinent info from the Jarabina, Andrzejowka & Mylyk records from LDS. One day, hopefully, I will have sufficient means to travel to these remote villages for myself! Thank you for your suggestion, I will try and see, as you say, it's always worth a shot for the price of a postage!! Cyndi ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 12:37:53 -0500 From: "Dennis Benarz" <benarz@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [GALICIA] Brzesowa, Desznica, and Myscowa To: <galicia@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <COL0-DAV48D022D1867D201B259DBACF0E0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Cynthia I'm a firm believer that the information that one seeks exists somewhere. It's just a matter of locating it. Unfortunately, I'm not the person with the answer (except maybe in the case of Jarabina). Alas, I just don't have sufficient knowledge or experience in the Beskid Niski highlands. JARABINA - Greek Catholic parish records for 1789-1939, LDS Microfilm #1739141, 1739142, 1739143. True, they wouldn't be found in any Polish archives but that's only because Jarabina is in Slovakia. BRZEZOWA, DESZNICA, MYSCOWA - True. Regrettably, there are no LDS microfilms. Since you are not having much luck with the Polish Archives at Przemysl, why not try writing directly to one or more of the existing Greek Catholic parishes in the area? Like p.w. sw. Paraskewy in Myscowa, p.w.ss. Kosmy i Damiena in Krempna, and/or p.w. sw. Jana Zlotoustego in Polany. Even if they cannot provide any specific answers to your questions, they would probably be kind enough to direct you to who could. And there's the chance, just a chance, that one of the area parishes may have inherited the records of one or more of the closed parishes nearby. (Heck, why not? The old door frame from the church in Nieznajowa is now found at the church in Bartne.) I think it's worth a shot. Sorry that I could not be more helpful. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cynthia" <ctitello999888@wowway.com> To: <galicia@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [GALICIA] To Dennis Benarz > > Dennis: > > I've followed many of your posts regarding the Lemko people. I've visited > your web pages and found them quite helpful on various matters. I've > gotten > some assistance from others researching my interests also. > My grandfather and his brother came from Myscowa, former Galicia. > I have other relations from Bzrezowa, Desznica, and a straggler who was > sent > to Jarabina. > All the surnames began as TYRPAK. Some spelling variants occurred upon > arrival to the US. > > Here is my dilemma and I'm hoping with your vast knowledge of the area, > you > might perhaps know something I don't or am just missing by looking at the > info too long: > Andrzejowka & Mylyk parish records were filmed by the LDS. The other > villages were not. I've written to the Polish Archives in Przemyl but was > told my query was too broad so to speak. I asked for all Tyrpak males > born > between 1870 and 1890 from the villages of Desznica, Myscowa and Bzrezowa. > I sent again as three separate village requests but have not received any > type of response. From what I can see by surname distribution, this > surname > was quite common in those villages and after WWII< spread over Poland and > into Europe further also. > Am I asking the right archive for those villages' parishes? My hope is > with > your extensive knowledge of this area, you may be better equipped to point > me > to the correct archive, or perhaps suggest how I can limit my scope for > their ease of finding. Grandfather was John here in the US, so he could > have been Iwan, Jan or even something else at home. Great Uncle was > Samuel > here, but I've got several documents which he uses Simeon/Szymon on. > Their > father is listed as Paunko Typrak on the one document I have that gives a > parental name. Any input or suggestion would be useful. Thanks in > advance! > Cyndi

Cindi, If my recall is correct your ancestors are Rusyns. They were "Greek Catholics". Please recall that Rusyns/Ukrainians after WWII were relocated by the Polish government and their churches were closed and church documents confiscated and given to the state authorities. You'll not find any old records in the Orthodox and Ukrainian Greek Catholic churches which are now located in Poland. _______ Lavrentiy Krupniak http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GaliciaPoland-Ukraine/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rusyns/ Cynthia wrote: > > Dennis: > > Your suggestion was most helpful! I didn't even think of trying to contact > the existing parish at Myscowa, blinders on and believing the records had > definitely been transferred to the Archives. > Perhaps they have not, and if indeed they have, perhaps the parish will know > which archive actually holds the old records. (And shame on me for not > thinking to do so! see what I mean about looking at something too long when > another pair of eyes is most helpful at seeing what was under my nose the > entire time!) > I know the church is still used today, sporadically, though the religious > orientation has changed a bit from the late 1880's, perhaps the clergy there > can be of some assistance. > I have seen and recorded the pertinent info from the Jarabina, Andrzejowka & > Mylyk records from LDS. > > One day, hopefully, I will have sufficient means to travel to these remote > villages for myself! > Thank you for your suggestion, I will try and see, as you say, it's always > worth a shot for the price of a postage!! > Cyndi > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 12:37:53 -0500 > From: "Dennis Benarz" <benarz@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [GALICIA] Brzesowa, Desznica, and Myscowa > To: <galicia@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <COL0-DAV48D022D1867D201B259DBACF0E0@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Cynthia > > I'm a firm believer that the information that one seeks exists somewhere. > It's just a matter of locating it. Unfortunately, I'm not the person with > the answer (except maybe in the case of Jarabina). Alas, I just don't have > sufficient knowledge or experience in the Beskid Niski highlands. > > JARABINA - Greek Catholic parish records for 1789-1939, LDS Microfilm > #1739141, 1739142, 1739143. True, they wouldn't be found in any Polish > archives but that's only because Jarabina is in Slovakia. > > BRZEZOWA, DESZNICA, MYSCOWA - True. Regrettably, there are no LDS > microfilms. > > Since you are not having much luck with the Polish Archives at Przemysl, why > > not try writing directly to one or more of the existing Greek Catholic > parishes in the area? Like p.w. sw. Paraskewy in Myscowa, p.w.ss. Kosmy i > Damiena in Krempna, and/or p.w. sw. Jana Zlotoustego in Polany. Even if > they cannot provide any specific answers to your questions, they would > probably be kind enough to direct you to who could. And there's the chance, > > just a chance, that one of the area parishes may have inherited the records > of one or more of the closed parishes nearby. (Heck, why not? The old door > frame from the church in Nieznajowa is now found at the church in Bartne.) > > I think it's worth a shot. > > Sorry that I could not be more helpful. > > Dennis > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cynthia" <ctitello999888@wowway.com> > To: <galicia@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 7:48 AM > Subject: Re: [GALICIA] To Dennis Benarz > > > > > Dennis: > > > > I've followed many of your posts regarding the Lemko people. I've visited > > your web pages and found them quite helpful on various matters. I've > > gotten > > some assistance from others researching my interests also. > > My grandfather and his brother came from Myscowa, former Galicia. > > I have other relations from Bzrezowa, Desznica, and a straggler who was > > sent > > to Jarabina. > > All the surnames began as TYRPAK. Some spelling variants occurred upon > > arrival to the US. > > > > Here is my dilemma and I'm hoping with your vast knowledge of the area, > > you > > might perhaps know something I don't or am just missing by looking at the > > info too long: > > Andrzejowka & Mylyk parish records were filmed by the LDS. The other > > villages were not. I've written to the Polish Archives in Przemyl but was > > told my query was too broad so to speak. I asked for all Tyrpak males > > born > > between 1870 and 1890 from the villages of Desznica, Myscowa and Bzrezowa. > > I sent again as three separate village requests but have not received any > > type of response. From what I can see by surname distribution, this > > surname > > was quite common in those villages and after WWII< spread over Poland and > > into Europe further also. > > Am I asking the right archive for those villages' parishes? My hope is > > with > > your extensive knowledge of this area, you may be better equipped to point > > > me > > to the correct archive, or perhaps suggest how I can limit my scope for > > their ease of finding. Grandfather was John here in the US, so he could > > have been Iwan, Jan or even something else at home. Great Uncle was > > Samuel > > here, but I've got several documents which he uses Simeon/Szymon on. > > Their > > father is listed as Paunko Typrak on the one document I have that gives a > > parental name. Any input or suggestion would be useful. Thanks in > > advance! > > Cyndi > > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at GALICIA-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GALICIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message