What published Tarver info are you talking about and what is wrong with it? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [GAJEFFER] Berryhill > SNIP< > I will also tell you the "spin" around this DANIELL family is something to > behold, especially that coming out of Bogart, Oconee County, GA, the home of > William DANIELL, Sr. (1743-1840). I do not trust anything they say, even > less so than I trust published TARVER information from Burke and Jefferson > County... > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by AVG software. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.620 / Virus Database: 399 - Release Date: 3/11/2004

Jim, What is right about it is probably a better question. <grin> Some is good, like that for Samuel III and Celia JORDAN stuff but even this has so many holes in it that you can drive a truck through it. I have not looked at the stuff Lotus has for these TARVER folks in several years but a lot that I have seen makes no sense. I feel that Thomas TARVER b. ABT 1740 of Greene County, NC is Samuel TARVER III's (1739-1802) brother but I have no confirmation of it. Regardless, there is a strong connection between Thomas TARVER and Samuel TARVER because Robert DANIEL and Penelope LANE lived right by Thomas Tarver and Noah SMITH in Greene County, NC in 1800. I also feel this Noah is the same Noah SMITH who lived within just a few houses of Robert DANIEL in Burke in 1820. I also know that Samuel Bennett TARVER, Samuel and Celia's boy. lived also very close to Robert C. DANIEL in 1820 in Burke. In 1830, Samuel Bennett TARVER and his wife, Charlotte Arnold TARVER, moved to Washington County, GA -- right on the border with Jefferson a few miles west of present day Bartow, GA. Into his place in the 1830 census of Burke moved Mark E. TARVER, who I think was Samuel's youngest boy born 1786. Mark's son, William Allen TARVER. Sr. born ABT 1805, married Lucretia DANIEL, one of Robert and Penelope's kids. Jimmy TARVER of Wadley, GA is a great-grandson of this "Allen" TARVER and Lucretia DANIEL (1807-1849). Lucretia died in either Bell County, TX or Russell County, AL. By 1850, Judge Andrew Ethelred TARVER (1817-1900), s/o Samuel Bennett and Charlotte Arnold TARVER of Washington County, moved to Jefferson County, GA, after marrying a Julia Ann DANIEL. I do not know who her father was. Guess who Judge TARVER lived right next to in the period 1850-1860? Robert W. DANIEL, Esq., my GGF, and RWD was also one of Robert and Penelope's kids. After the CW, Judge TARVER and the DONOVANS owned about everything worth owning in the Wadley area of Jefferson County, GA. Wadley had been named, Bethany, before the latter years of the 19th Century but the DONOVANS renamed it to Wadley, in honor of the President of the GA Railroad Company. The DONOVANS were major suppliers to the GA Railroad Company. . The DONOVANS were also collateral with the DANIELS. Tim DONOVAN married Nancy Collins DANIEL, d/o James Lane DANIEL (1814-1857) and his first wife, Mary MURPHEY. James was a brother of Robert W. and was another son of Robert and Penelope. In the 1850-1860 time frame, they all lived side by side in Bethany, now Wadley. I am also not against the idea that Bethany was not originally named for Bethany LANE, one of Penelope's sisters. We also know there were five JORDAN kids, all siblings, who play a real big role in this whole bunch, as well as help to identify other collaterals. They were the kids of George JORDAN III and Patience WARREN of Northampton County, NC. Celia JORDAN (1739-1819) married Samuel TARVER, III, Elizabeth JORDAN (ABT 1750-ABT 1794) married John TARVER (a cousin of Samuel), Hannah JORDAN (ABT 1740-ABT 1770) married Thomas VINSON, Jr, Nancy JORDAN (ABT 1759-ABT 1866) married Francis Richard FLANDERS, Josiah JORDAN (ABT 1755-1821) married Judith HILL, d/o Abraham HILL and Judith HINTON, Benjamin JORDAN (ABT 1757-ABT 1787) married Elizabeth HARVEY and I do not know who Roland JORDAN married. We also know that John TARVER (1754-1810) moved to Wilkes County, GA but we think some of his kids moved to Troup, Twiggs, Burke and Jefferson County, GA. One of his grandkids was General Hartwell Harrison TARVER (1784-1840) of Troup County, GA, who has been said to have been the richest man in GA when he died in 1840. The WIMBERLYS, BRYANS and WHITFIELDS are also thicker than thieves. I am also pretty sure that Penelope LANE's mother was a BRYAN but I do not know which one. I also think her father, Capt. Isham LANE (ABt 1730-1801) of Greene County, NC was a brother of Levin LANE (ABT 1730-ABT 1790) of Jones County, NC. This seems to be confirmed by Levin's daughter, Penelope LANE, subsequent marriage to both Col. William Martin BUSH of Jones County, NC and Needham WHITFIELD. We also see this same BUSH family collateral with the WINBERLYS, WHITFIELDS and others in the Twiggs County, GA. area. This whole bunch has links back to Dobbs and Craven County, NC with a few links into Wayne and Greene County, NC as well as Northampton, Edgecombe, Duplin and Pitt. The problem is these folks were cousins of some variety, and this includes both the TARVERS and DANIELS, as well as anybody named, WHITFIELD, BRYAN or SMITH, with a few exceptions. You can also throw the WARRENS and ALLENS into this equation, too. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Littlefield, Jr." <jimbo57@bellsouth.net> To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [GAJEFFER] Berryhill > What published Tarver info are you talking about and what is > wrong with it? > Jim > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 7:27 PM > Subject: Re: [GAJEFFER] Berryhill > > >> SNIP< > >> I will also tell you the "spin" around this DANIELL family is something >> to >> behold, especially that coming out of Bogart, Oconee County, GA, the home > of >> William DANIELL, Sr. (1743-1840). 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