Bob, None of these names are a match for me, but THANKS for the reply. Debra ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Klisavage To: GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [GAJEFFER] ROOKS Debbie; My wife has some Rooks in her fasmily. They start with a Aron Jera mial that married Emma Denten They had three children, 1.. James Lamar Rooks, who married Pauline Faglier. They had 10 Children and lived in Soperton, Ga. 2. Lesie Rooks who married a McTier. No other data. Bob 3. Agnes Rooks who married a Sheppard. No other data. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debra Pate" <patemdm@alltel.net> To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 7:46 AM Subject: [GAJEFFER] ROOKS > Anyone researching the Rooks or McDougall families that were living in Jefferson County, Georgia (Ga.)? > : ==== GAJEFFER Mailing List ==== NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact GAJEFFER-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

I think that I May have founnd my own answer to this. Yjey may be different persons living in different parts of Georgia. One was 39 and lived in Dublin City and the other was 46 and lived in Toombs County, Ga in 1930. Now to find and delete the one that is not a member of the family. Thank you kind people again who tried to assist. Bob K. ----- Original Message ----- From: <PALEE55@aol.com> To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [GAJEFFER] John Thomas Hadden 11 Nov 1892 - 21 Jun 1063 > In a message dated 6/16/2004 2:02:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > klisavage@knology.net writes: > > Hello , > I'd like to make a comment on this and put my 2 cents worth in > ,,,here goes,,, It was not uncommon to find one man and 2-3 women together around > Jefferson Co. I have found this several times . They sort of "accepted" this > kind of living . My Mother's family came from Jefferson Co. and it was in her > family too . Maybe we need to look into the "Mormon" theory . I have always > wondered why this sort of situation was accepted , I'm 55 and personally know of 2 > families that lived this way , 1 man 2 women , separate houses and kids with > both women knowing the other , they were all one happy family , and as far as > I know he never cheated on the other , took care of them and never was > unfaithful to them , unlike some I know ,,,lol > Ann Bartlett Lee > Can anyone shed any light on John Thomas Hadden Sr? I have him married to 2 > women Molly Beasley in 1912 and mattie Amerson October. Between the two > wifes he had 5 children born from Aug 1914 - 30 Oct 1923 with Molly and 8 > with Mattie from Sep 1915 t0 Oct 1935. > > I received this info on marriages from a Truman Milwee and when I queried > him on it, he asked the person who he received it from to try to clarify but > no response was received. > > Could John have been a Mormon that believed in many wifes or is this 2 > different persons? > > Any helkp appreciated. Thanks. > > > ==== GAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact GAJEFFER-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

JOHN ARE YOU OF THE SAME OPINION THAT WILLIAM R. PARKER WAS THE SON OF OF HARDY AND SUSANNA PARKER? DO YOU HAVE ANY SIBLINGS? JEAN......GGGRANDAUGHTER.

ANN, BATHSHEBA IS MY GREAT, GREAT GRANDMOTHER, I WOULD BE SO THRILLED AND HAPPY TO HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT HER. I HAVE SEARCHED FOR 10 YEARS FOR THE GRAVE OF BATHSHEBA MATTHEWS AND HUSBAND WILLIAM R. PARKER. PLEASE SEND. JEAN PARKER C. AT JNCVS@AOL.COM

In a message dated 6/19/2004 11:06:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Ssand10749@aol.com writes: Hi, I have pictures of the cemetery where at least Bathsheba Parker is buried.I am In New York right now.Upon my return home which will be in about 2 weeks I will go through my stuff and send you the info. Shirley Watkins Sanders I don't have an interest in this ,,but just have to say how it makes my heart feel so goooooood to see how we care for each other on this list , I know she has been looking for this cemetery and her Bathsheba Parker for awhile now ,,let's all keep up the good work ,,lubs yas all Ann Bartlett Lee

Hi, I have pictures of the cemetery where at least Bathsheba Parker is buried.I am In New York right now.Upon my return home which will be in about 2 weeks I will go through my stuff and send you the info. Shirley Watkins Sanders

Jean, No, I do not but I do know that William PARKER was living in Bulloch County, GA when he drew land in the 1805 GA Land Lottery. I like his son Thomas's (1823-1893) connection to the PALMER girl. This PALMER was a d/o David PALMER and Martha Caroline COLLINS of Richmond or Burke County, GA. These COLLINS and PALMERS were all around a lot of my close bunch -- not exactly close, except for possibly the COLLINS connection, but they were around my DANIEL bunch in Burke and Jefferson County, GA. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <JNCVS@aol.com> To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 10:57 PM Subject: [GAJEFFER] Parkers > DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE WILLIAM R. PARKER AND BATHSHEBA MATTHEWS PARKER ARE > BURIED AT IN JEFFERSON COUNTY? I HAVE SEARCHED FOR YEARS AND HAVE COME UP > EMPTY......JEAN > > > ==== GAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal > messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be > grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact > GAJEFFER-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi, I only have one ROOK/ROOKS in my 50K person database and that was over in Edgefield. A ROOK girl married a READY boy in 1856. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Klisavage" <klisavage@knology.net> To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [GAJEFFER] ROOKS > Debbie; > > My wife has some Rooks in her fasmily. They start with a Aron Jera mial > that married Emma Denten They had three children, > 1.. James Lamar Rooks, who married Pauline Faglier. They had 10 Children > and lived in Soperton, Ga. > 2. Lesie Rooks who married a McTier. No other data. > > Bob > > 3. Agnes Rooks who married a Sheppard. No other data. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Debra Pate" <patemdm@alltel.net> > To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 7:46 AM > Subject: [GAJEFFER] ROOKS > > >> Anyone researching the Rooks or McDougall families that were living in > Jefferson County, Georgia (Ga.)? >> > : > > > > ==== GAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal > messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be > grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact > GAJEFFER-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Debbie; My wife has some Rooks in her fasmily. They start with a Aron Jera mial that married Emma Denten They had three children, 1.. James Lamar Rooks, who married Pauline Faglier. They had 10 Children and lived in Soperton, Ga. 2. Lesie Rooks who married a McTier. No other data. Bob 3. Agnes Rooks who married a Sheppard. No other data. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debra Pate" <patemdm@alltel.net> To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 7:46 AM Subject: [GAJEFFER] ROOKS > Anyone researching the Rooks or McDougall families that were living in Jefferson County, Georgia (Ga.)? > :

John, you are doing a great job on the Jefferson site. Thank you. Is this Noah Smith the one who married Narcissa Pior (Prior). As you may remember, I am searching for the Piors in Jefferson, and Burke. Martha Pior

Anyone researching the Rooks or McDougall families that were living in Jefferson County, Georgia (Ga.)? JEFFERSON COUNTY, GA - Vital Records - Marriages 1802-1857 lists the following Rooks: ROOKS, Jesse m. Eleanor JOHNSON - 15 Jul 1823 ROOKS, William m. Patsey BULLOCK - 08 Dec 1822 ROOKS, Zachariah m. unknown McDUGILL - 19 Dec 1830 (This is Zachariah & Martha Patsy Jane McDougall) I am interested to know the descent of any Rooks that lived in Jefferson Co. It is my belief some, if not all, of these came from South Carolina (SC)......especially Barnwell County, SC. Some of these Rooks lived in the following counties in Georgia: Bullock County, GA...... Jefferson County, GA.......Sumter County, GA.......Lee County, GA and Baker County, GA. Different spellings could be: Rook, Rooks, Ruke, Rukes, Ruark 1827 GEORGIA LAND LOTTERY, Jefferson County Residents, by date of drawing 55th Day's Drawings - May 9 SEC DIST LOT NO. NAME RESIDENCE CAPT. DIST. COUNTY OF DRAW 1 15 244 McDougal's, John orps Jefferson County Cunninghams Lee County 1 23 194 McDugle, Thomas Jasper County Baynes Lee County 3 3 112 McDuggle's, Daniel orphans Habersham County Kenzies Troup County Different spellings could be: McDougall, McDougal, McDoogle, McDugle, McDuggle, McDugal, McDugil, McDugill If you have Rooks family info. please reply. Thanks, Debra

Dorothy, As for the WELLS, I really do not have a lot of them but I have a Dr. David WILLS tied to my bunch. In 1872 in Madison, Morgan County, GA, Dr. David WILLS, President of Oglethorpe University in Milledgeville, married my grandparents -- John C. RICHTER, Sr. (1848-1907) and Alice Elizabeth DANIEL (1854-1924), the daughter of Robert W. DANIEL and Mary Jane RENEAU of Bethany, Jefferson County, GA. I also confirmed it -- Dr. WILLS was indeed President of Oglethorpe in 1872. Even though Mary Jane's father, Rev. Russell RENEAU (1807-1865) was a Presiding Elder in the Methodist Church in the GA Conference, his wife was an Elizabeth STOCKTON (1810-1888). Have you ever heard of this STOCKTON family before? Well, they founded Princeton University and Mary Jane's ALEXANDER and RAMSEY ancestors roll right back into this same bunch. Also, in the early 1850's Rev. RENEAU got in a little hot water with his Methodist brothers because of his new found beliefs in "Predestination." What is the basic theme of the Presbyterian Church - "Predestination." What was the primary institution of higher learning in the US for the Presbyterian Church -- Princeton. What was the Southern Extension of Princeton - Oglethorpe. So, all of this fits. The basic truth appears to be that Elizabeth STOCKTON converted her husband, Rev. Russell RENEAU, to some of her Presbyterian views. This forced him to leave the Methodist Church for about four years before he was appointed Head of Mission in Ft. Smith, AR. Several years later he was appointed a PE again in AR and died in 1865 in Brownstown, Sevier County, AR. The tie to Rev. RENEAU was probably through the MURPHEYS, since Rev. Nicholas MURPHEY was tight with all of the big Methodists in the GA Conference. The closest that I can put Rev. RENEAU to Jefferson County was when he was living in Oxford, Newton County, GA (ABT 1858-AFT 1852) , so there is something more here than I know. Oxford and Emory University may be a key. In 1850, Professor Winfield Montgomery RIVERS (1824-1905) was living with Mrs. Sarah Williamson Bird LAMAR in Oxford. What is the name of the swamp south of Wadley and Bartow -- Williamson's Swamp. There has to be something here because Sarah's mother was a WILLIAMSON. Sarah was the widow of Judge L. Q. C. LAMAR (179701834) of Milledgeville, Baldwin County, GA. She had moved from Milledgeville to Oxford after her husband's suicide in 1834. The reason Professor RIVERS is important is because after my GGF, Robert W. DANIEL, died in 1865, RIVERS married his widow, Mary Jane Reneau DANIEL. In 1864 RIVERS is also a witness on the 1864 Will of James S. SPIER of Jefferson County who was a very close personal friend of my GGF. The RIVERS, who were from James Island, SC were real close to my bunch. Professor RIVERS daughter, Hallie Elise RIVERS (1850-1935) married my grand uncle, Martin L. "Mat" RICHTER, Sr. (1846-1924) of Madison and his step daughter, Alice Elizabeth DANIEL, married Mat's younger brother, John C. RICHTER. The RIVERS were one of the wealthiest families on James Island. Hallie had met Mat when he was a student at the Georgia Military Institute in Marietta where both he and John were students. I would not be surprised to learn that John did not meet Alice there, too. Mat and John served in the "Georgia Cadets" during the CW. None of this bunch was "po" or uneducated. Newspaper accounts of the period include many estates settled by both my GGF and his younger brother, James L. DANIEL. Census information tells us that Robert and James DANIEL were farmers but that is not correct. They were big time into the railroad business with their collateral DONOVAN family of Bethany. The DONOVANS provided all of the lumber for the GA Railroad and were probably the wealthiest family in Bethany. The old story from my friend, Smith BANKS, is that Judge Andrew E. TARVER owned one side of the tracks and the DANIELS and DONOVANS owned the other. That SMITH family really interests me because one of them, Luther C. SMITH married Julia R. DANIEL in 1859. She was my GGF's oldest daughter born ABT 1842. I know that SMITH boy, born ABT 1835, is related to Noah SMITH and his wife, Wylanty WAY but I do not know who his father was. Another family that may be key to this bunch is the Daniel GREEN of Emanuel County, GA. RWD married on of his daughter, Rachel Rebecca GREEN (1824-ABt 1851) BEF 1845. I think her family rolls back to the Henchee WARREN family of Burke County, GA because one of his daughters married a GREEN. I think this GREEN family rolls back to the Joseph GREEN family of Greene County, NC which was all over this bunch back in Greene County, NC. I know most of the players but I do not have all of the pieces of the puzzle. Maybe someone in Jefferson has the keys I need. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "DOROTHY BARNUM" <dotbar@prodigy.net> To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 7:09 PM Subject: [GAJEFFER] Everett Wells before 1830 > Everett Wells paid Jefferson Co taxes for Esther Brett, widow, in 1829. > They lived on Boggy Gut and she was adjacent Hall. Everett Wells also > served as administrator of the estate of John Britt, dec'd, in July 1828. > John and Esther Brett had the following known girls: Sarah b. 1764; > Priscilla b. 1775; Frances b. 1781 and Martha b. 1778 (likely the one who > married John Collins). Is Everett Wells connected to the Brett family or > just a neighbor or creditor? Esther's son, Jesse, was dead before 1828, > and son John had moved to Jackson Co, FL so there was no son to take > administration. > > > ==== GAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal > messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be > grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact > GAJEFFER-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Well, Dorothy, my dear -- that's what I am thinking. One of the first bits of information I got when I started researching my family over 10 years ago was from the MURPHEYS. The problem is -- it now appears to be completely wrong. Lucy GRAY of Pensacola, FL is one of my very good friends and she descends from William DANIEL who was married to a Betsy WATTS and this is the bunch that moved to Jackson County, FL in the 1825 time frame. My bet is MS Lucy's bunch are related to my DANIEL bunch. In fact I think her William DANIEL born ABT 1760 is an older brother of my Robert C. DANIEL (ABt 1765-AFT 1830) who moved to Burke County, GA from Greene County, NC in 1812. In the company of him was probably Jordan SMITH, Noah SMITH, some of the TARVERS, maybe a MARSHALL family, the WISES, maybe the CASONS, WATTS, BRETTS, COLLINS and probably a few more that I have forgotten to add in this list. From what I know now, it is starting to make sense. I also think the MURPHEYS of Richmond County, GA have really cobbled up the MURPHEYS. My primary interest in Jefferson County, GA is my GGF, Robert W. DANIEL, Esq. (1809-1865) and his younger brother, James L. DANIEL (1814-1857). Robert married a bunch of times but the last was to my GGM, Mary Jane RENEAU in JC in 1852. James married Mary MURPHEY, d/o Rev. Nicholas MURPHEY and Nancy Ann COLLINS, d/o John and Martha BRETT. John COLLINS family is from Beaufort County, NC. I know where the are from. I also think his brother was a Levin COLLINS. There are several other families involved in all of this. Robert and James older sister, Amelia DANIEL (1795-1860) married William P. TAYLOR and they moved from Burke to near Riddleville, Washington County, GA. They had several boys and one was name, Levin, and one of their boys married a BRYAN. BRYAN is a key name in this family and that rolls back to Dobbs County, NC. The parents of Robert, James and Amelia DANIEL were a Robert C. DANIEL and his wife, Penelope LANE (1773-1846). They moved from Greene (formerly Dobbs) County, NC to the 65th MD of Burke County, GA in 1812, according to Penelope's 1846 obit published in the Southern Christian Advocate. Penelope's parents were Capt. Isham LANE (ABT 1730-1801) of Greene County, NC and "I think," Lucretia GRAY, d/o John GRAY, Sr. and Ann BRYAN of Lenoir County, NC. I think both Robert C. and William DANIEL were grandchildren of John CASON (ABT 1728-1802/1816) and his wife, Eleanor PICKETT or PINKETT. However, I do not know who their father was. I think either Capt. Robert Lanier DANIEL (1718-1794) of Pitt County, NC or Robert DANIEL (1718-AFT 1782) of Martin County, NC. I do not know which but I think both the CANNONS and CASONS play into whichever DANIEL family it was. We already know that Lucy's DANIEL family descends from the IOW DANIEL family and my DNA test should come in within a week or so and I will bet they match. Most, if not all of this bunch, has big ties back into IOW and Surry County, VA however most of them later moved down to Tyrrell, Pitt, Bertie, Johnston, which later formed Dobbs and Greene, and Wayne County, NC. I just cannot get a good feel for them because there is so much bad information out there. As I stated in my previous post, I never could figure out the close relationship between Rev. Nicholas MURPHEY and the two PIERCE boys, also Methodist ministers. I have always felt this relationship had to extend back into NC and was not just limited to their common religion. BTW, the family of both Lovic and Reddick PIERCE rolls right back into this same group in NC and I will bet money so does Rev. Nicholas MURPHEY, regardless of what the MURPHEY family of Hephzibah says about this family. As for the SMITH family, Noah and Etheldred are living right next to Robert C. DANIEL in Greene County, NC in 1800. I also think Jordan is their brother because there is an Etheldred SMITH that dies in Jefferson County, GA and he has a son name, Jordan, and this Jordan is probably named for his uncle, Jordan SMITH. In 1860 a Noah SMITH is living right next to my GGF, Robert W. DANIEL, in Jefferson County, GA and my bet this Noah is related to this Etheldred SMITH who died in JC a few years earlier. I think this whole bunch we see in Jefferson, Washington and even Burke rolls right back into Pitt, Beaufort, Dobbs, Greene and Wayne County, NC. I just do not know how they fit together but I am getting a lot better feel to them....... John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "DOROTHY BARNUM" <dotbar@prodigy.net> To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [GAJEFFER] MURPHEYS, DANIELS, GAINERS, BRENTS, etc > Is this the John "Jack" Collins b. ca 1773 Barnwell Dist, SC md. Martha > BRITT in 1795 in Richmond Co, GA? Jon Newman's query in August, 1999, > stated that John and brothers Michael and Moses moved to Tuscaloosa, AL by > 1825. > If this is the family, the Britt/ BRETT fits right in with the Watts, > Gainers, & Daniels. John and Esther Brett lived in Jefferson Co, and their > son, Jesse, lived in Washington Co. Members of the family moved to Jackson > Co, FL in the 1828-1835 time period. Records of Mrs. Elizabeth Brett > Williams Rigell have "John Brett and Tabitha Daniel were married on the > evening of November 22, 1827, by the Rev. E. H. Callaway..." There were > two John Bretts in Jackson Co, FL. One born 1783, the other in 1805. > A Jordan Smith and Sarah Smith served as adms. of John Smith, dec'd in > 1836 in Jackson Co, FL. Lundy and Brantley families also mix in with the > others. > > "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> wrote: > > Now comes the critical piece of information from my friend, Lucy GRAY. > John > COLLINS was not married to a HOUSTON girl but a Martha BRENT and they were > the parents of Nancy Ann COLLINS who married Rev. Nicholas MURPHEY. > > > ==== GAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal > messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be > grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact > GAJEFFER-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ >

John Clarke wrote: As for the Bible part of your message, I wonder how they would feel about the religious beliefs of our society, today. Not very much, IMHO. <sigh> John, I can tell you I don't think much of what is happening to religious belief's today. Forget the politicians, they are going to do whatever is popular at the time, just to win votes. Our pastors have been tolerant for too long and will not rock the boat. They arre so afraid they might offend someone. I think a little hellfire and brimestone preaching might just help (old time Primitive Baptist or Holiness type). Lordy, it appears being White/Creek, Christian and Southern offends everyone... Winnette --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.707 / Virus Database: 463 - Release Date: 06/15/2004

Looking for information on Ruben King born around 1845 passed i Jefferson county 1923. If anyone has information on Ruben King or members of his family please reply

Everett Wells paid Jefferson Co taxes for Esther Brett, widow, in 1829. They lived on Boggy Gut and she was adjacent Hall. Everett Wells also served as administrator of the estate of John Britt, dec'd, in July 1828. John and Esther Brett had the following known girls: Sarah b. 1764; Priscilla b. 1775; Frances b. 1781 and Martha b. 1778 (likely the one who married John Collins). Is Everett Wells connected to the Brett family or just a neighbor or creditor? Esther's son, Jesse, was dead before 1828, and son John had moved to Jackson Co, FL so there was no son to take administration.

Is this the John "Jack" Collins b. ca 1773 Barnwell Dist, SC md. Martha BRITT in 1795 in Richmond Co, GA? Jon Newman's query in August, 1999, stated that John and brothers Michael and Moses moved to Tuscaloosa, AL by 1825. If this is the family, the Britt/ BRETT fits right in with the Watts, Gainers, & Daniels. John and Esther Brett lived in Jefferson Co, and their son, Jesse, lived in Washington Co. Members of the family moved to Jackson Co, FL in the 1828-1835 time period. Records of Mrs. Elizabeth Brett Williams Rigell have "John Brett and Tabitha Daniel were married on the evening of November 22, 1827, by the Rev. E. H. Callaway..." There were two John Bretts in Jackson Co, FL. One born 1783, the other in 1805. A Jordan Smith and Sarah Smith served as adms. of John Smith, dec'd in 1836 in Jackson Co, FL. Lundy and Brantley families also mix in with the others. "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> wrote: Now comes the critical piece of information from my friend, Lucy GRAY. John COLLINS was not married to a HOUSTON girl but a Martha BRENT and they were the parents of Nancy Ann COLLINS who married Rev. Nicholas MURPHEY.

Good Morning, There is a connection in Morgan County, GA that I cannot figure out and I will almost bet money the connection goes back to Jefferson, Emanuel or Washington County, GA. John DURDEN born ABT 1830 was a state representative who had large land holding (several or more sections in LD 19) in the SW portion of Morgan County, GA. His home place was located in the Reese Community, just north of Shady Dale, Jasper County, GA. Anyway, John DURDEN got into financial problems after the Civil War, as many folks did, went bankrupt in 1873 and his property was sold on the court house square in Madison, Morgan County, GA. This sale was handled by one of the FOSTER boys, whose father, the Hon. Albert Gallatin FOSTER, Esq. was the US Bankruptcy Judge. The FOSTERS, who were originally from Hancock County, GA, and the RICHTERS were close family friends, so all of this was not at what we now call "arms length." Anyway, guess who stepped in at this 1873 sale and loaned John DURDEN the money to keep his farm? Mrs. John C. RICHTER, Sr, the former Alice Elizabeth DANIEL (1854-1924) of Jefferson County, GA. Guess who later ended up with this land after the death of DURDEN? If you said, my grandmother, Mrs. Alice RICHTER, then you are correct. So, there must be some family connection between John DURDEN of Morgan County, GA and Alice Elizabeth DANIEL of Jefferson County but I have no idea what this family connection might be. I do know the DURDENS (or DURDENO) lived in the Pitt and Beaufort County, NC areas at one time and were close, if not collateral, with some of ancestors of Alice DANIEL. I also know these same DURDENS later migrated to east central GA and Morgan County, GA, but I do not know what the family connection might have been but I will bet there was one. If you have any thoughts, let me know. Thanks..... John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA

Good Morning, One note on the Jefferson County Website. Some folks on my commercial websites attempt to enter them via of "the back door" by browsing the directory structure of the website and opening the file they want to view. Normally, I do not allow FTP access to my websites, so this is not usually a problem but hackers being what I are, I take pains to avoid this situation. However, on the JC website Rootsweb allows FTP capability so I am sure someone will sooner or later attempt to do this. This was also why one person was thrown to the Eastman Gunshow website, inadvertently, last night - I had forgotten to change this re-direct directive to reference the URL of the new Jefferson County Genweb website. I removed this re-direct directive at that time but I have added this feature back to the website this morning. All of this should be transparent to you. This re-direct is done for one reason -- so any information displayed on this website is displayed properly. If for some reason a visitor attempts to enter the Jefferson County website via of a frame from another website or they attempt to directly access one of the website's HTML files, they should be re-directed back into the main entry file for this website, what we call the "Welcome Page." The Golden Key located on the left hand side of the website's top border will allow you to easily add this website to your "Favorites." So, feel free to use it. That's what it is there for. <grin> If you have any problems with this website, let me know. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA

Winnette, Ain't that the truth. When Lucretia DANIEL (1807-1849) died in, possibly Russell County, AL in 1849, her husband, William Allen TARVER, Sr. dumped their four children on her two younger brothers, Robert W. and James L. DANIEL of Jefferson County, GA to raise. This is why you will see these TARVER kids living with Robert and James in JC in the post 1850 time frame. You will also see some of the WISE kids also living with Robert W. DANIEL in Jefferson in 1860 -- their father who had married Robert's sister, Sarah Elizabeth DANIEL, had died and Robert took them in and gave them a job. You will also see a lot of times where a brother married the widow of his brother, after the death of his wife. Yes, they were their "brother's keeper" in more ways than one. It is a shame families do not stick together as tight as these folks did, back then. As for the Bible part of your message, I wonder how they would feel about the religious beliefs of our society, today. Not very much, IMHO. <sigh> John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "A-T-K's Grannie" <gnw@rose.net> To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 7:51 AM Subject: [GAJEFFER] Another possibility for 2 families > In olden times the Bible was taken far more seriously than today. A > brother > literally took care of his brother's wife and children after his death. > > I suppose if you find two marriages that would not be the case. However, > this did happen. > > Winnette > > __ > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.707 / Virus Database: 463 - Release Date: 06/15/2004 > > > ==== GAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal > messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be > grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact > GAJEFFER-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > >