John, << Hinson QUINNEY was born ABT 1805 and his wife, Mahala MARSHALL was born 1810, so their child, Nancy, would have been born ABt 1830 and she could have married John after Martha died.>> I have Nancy's birthdate as August 24, 1832. Help me out here...I worked on the Noah Smith Family abt. a year ago and can't find my notes. Noah Smith married Narcissa/Marcissa Pryor in 1831, Jefferson Co. Ga. and Noah Smith married Wylanty/Wylantha Way 1848 in Jefferson. Wasn't this the same Noah?? I have L.C. Smith as a son of Narcissa/Marcissa and Noah. Not my bunch so I could definately be wrong! Help! Dawn ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [GAJEFFER] John Perry > Dawn, > Well, I think Martha PARTIN of Crawford County, GA was his first wife > and she died ABT 1850 so that matches up. Hinson QUINNEY was born ABT 1805 > and his wife, Mahala MARSHALL was born 1810, so their child, Nancy, would > have been born ABt 1830 and she could have married John after Martha died. > Let's say ABT 1855. > Have you ever gotten any more on the MARSHALLS? The PERRYS and the > MARSHALLS must have been pretty close even before the marriage of John PERRY > (1799-1863) to Nancy QUINNEY because John's sister Ann Perry DANIEL > (1809-1861) was the co-executor along with her husband, James Lane DANIEL > (1814-1857), of the will of Mahala's grandmother, Ann MARSHALL (ABT > 1770-1845), widow of Joseph MARSHALL, Sr. (ABT 1765-ABT 1820) of Jefferson > County, GA. > I do feel that Noah SMITH of Jefferson County, GA who was married to > Wylanty WAY was related in some way to Rev. Jordan SMITH or his wife, Mary > GAINER, because Joseph and Rev. SMITH were living side by side in 1820 in > Jefferson County, GA. Later, Rev. SMITH moved to Washington County, GA. > All of these SMITHS may have also been related, in some way, to Colby SMITH > and Rebecca Ann HENRY, also of Washington County, GA because I have an L. C. > SMITH that married Julia R. DANIEL (b. ABT 1842) in 1859. She was the > daughter of Robert W. DANIEL, my GGF, but by a different wife. In 1860, > this, some say Luther (Lewis is also a possibility) C. SMITH, age 24, Noah > SMITH, age 42 and Robert W. DANIEL age 51 are living side by side in > Bethany, Jefferson County, GA -- actually the 83rd MD. > I am still trying to find that WILCOX/WILCOXEN that married Julia R.'s > sister, Mary Green DANIEL who was born ABT 1848. We know Mary was married > by 1867 when her father's will was probated but I do not know what happened > to either of these two girls, after 1867. > > I also do not know what happened to their brother, James R. DANIEL born > 1850. I think he married a Sarah Julia MURPHY ABT 1871 but she and her > daughter died in 1874 and I do not know what happened to him, afterwards. I > think this MURPHY girl was daughter of a C. M. and G.D.A. Murphy she is > buried with these Murphys in Lowry Cemetery, Jefferson County, GA. However, > I do not know what happened to James R. DANIEL. > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dawn Williams" <dawnwilliams@bellsouth.net> > To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 5:04 PM > Subject: [GAJEFFER] John Perry > > > > John, > > John Perry's wife was Nancy Quinney, daughter of Hinson Quinney and > Mahaley Abigale Marshall. John was her 2nd husband. > > Dawn > > > > > > ==== GAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, > flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for > removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact GAJEFFER-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== GAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the GAJEFFER mailing list, use GAJEFFER-l-request@rootsweb.com or GAJEFFER-d-request@rootsweb.com if you are on the Digest list. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Jim, I am also a Colby Smith descendant, he is my 5 great-grandfather. Dawn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Littlefield, Jr." <jimbo57@bellsouth.net> To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [GAJEFFER] John Perry > John, > Colsby Smith is my fourth great-grandfather and this line has been > extensively > documented from his generation. Unless somebody has made a connection > that I haven't seen, neither Noah nor Jordan Smith is in the Colsby Smith > line. > > One of Colsby's sons, Micajah, had a son named David but I do not have any > more info on him at the moment. Micajah was born 1786 Chatham Co., NC > and married Elizabeth Duty. > > I am interested in the David T. Smith of Jefferson Co. since he married > Frances > Ross, sister to my third great-grandfather, Jonathan Ross (now you know > where > one of David's son's name came from). > Jimbo > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 6:50 PM > Subject: Re: [GAJEFFER] John Perry > > > > I do feel that Noah SMITH of Jefferson County, GA who was married to > > Wylanty WAY was related in some way to Rev. Jordan SMITH or his wife, Mary > > GAINER, because Joseph and Rev. SMITH were living side by side in 1820 in > > Jefferson County, GA. Later, Rev. SMITH moved to Washington County, GA. > > All of these SMITHS may have also been related, in some way, to Colby > SMITH > > and Rebecca Ann HENRY, also of Washington County, GA because I have an L. > C. > > SMITH that married Julia R. DANIEL (b. ABT 1842) in 1859. She was the > > daughter of Robert W. DANIEL, my GGF, but by a different wife. In 1860, > > this, some say Luther (Lewis is also a possibility) C. SMITH, age 24, Noah > > SMITH, age 42 and Robert W. DANIEL age 51 are living side by side in > > Bethany, Jefferson County, GA -- actually the 83rd MD. > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by AVG software. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.620 / Virus Database: 399 - Release Date: 3/11/2004 > > > ==== GAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact GAJEFFER-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Jim, There are several reason I think they may be connected, not necessarily close but connected in some way. Rev. Isaac SMITH, Colby's son, married Asneath BRANTLEY and the BRANTLEYS are all over the Benjamin DANIEL and Lucretia BURGAMY family of Washington and later, Laurens County, GA. Ann Colsby SMITH married a Thomas R. WOOD and a John WOOD was listed in the 1845 will of Ann MARSHALL (ABt 1770-1845) of Jefferson County, GA. She was the widow of Joseph MARSHALL, Sr. If you have any QUINNEY, MOYE, RAIFORDS or the like around you bunch, then I would say they were probably connected. However, the HENRYS are what caught my eye. Colby SMITH was married to a HENRY and so was Col. Nathan JOHNSTON (1738-1807) of St. Peter's Parish, Beaufort County, SC. Actually Col. HENRY was not of Beaufort District, SC until later, originally he was of Pitt County, NC and the father of Col. Amos JOHNSTON (1768-1815) of Beaufort who married Elizabeth DANIEL, d/o Josiah DANIEL and Elizabeth MAY nee TISON. The noted chronicler of eastern NC families, Coy K. JOHNSTON, Esq. of Atlanta was a descendant of Col Amos and Elizabeth Daniel JOHNSTON of Danielton, Jasper County, SC. Josiah was the younger brother of Capt. Aaron DANIEL who married Elizabeth WHITFIELD, whose mother was a WARREN. Aaron's son, Benjamin DANIEL was the boy who married Lucretia BURGAMY and lived in the part of Washington County that was later cut into Laurens County, GA. There are three families out of the Craven/Dobbs area of Eastern NC that ride together like the Three Musketeers. They are the SMITHS, the WHITFIELDS and the BRYANS. If you have any of these families in your overall bunch, you can bet your boopy these SMITHS are related...... John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Littlefield, Jr." <jimbo57@bellsouth.net> To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [GAJEFFER] John Perry > John, > Colsby Smith is my fourth great-grandfather and this line has been > extensively > documented from his generation. Unless somebody has made a connection > that I haven't seen, neither Noah nor Jordan Smith is in the Colsby Smith > line. > > One of Colsby's sons, Micajah, had a son named David but I do not have any > more info on him at the moment. Micajah was born 1786 Chatham Co., NC > and married Elizabeth Duty. > > I am interested in the David T. Smith of Jefferson Co. since he married > Frances > Ross, sister to my third great-grandfather, Jonathan Ross (now you know > where > one of David's son's name came from). > Jimbo > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 6:50 PM > Subject: Re: [GAJEFFER] John Perry > > > > I do feel that Noah SMITH of Jefferson County, GA who was married to > > Wylanty WAY was related in some way to Rev. Jordan SMITH or his wife, Mary > > GAINER, because Joseph and Rev. SMITH were living side by side in 1820 in > > Jefferson County, GA. Later, Rev. SMITH moved to Washington County, GA. > > All of these SMITHS may have also been related, in some way, to Colby > SMITH > > and Rebecca Ann HENRY, also of Washington County, GA because I have an L. > C. > > SMITH that married Julia R. DANIEL (b. ABT 1842) in 1859. She was the > > daughter of Robert W. DANIEL, my GGF, but by a different wife. In 1860, > > this, some say Luther (Lewis is also a possibility) C. SMITH, age 24, Noah > > SMITH, age 42 and Robert W. DANIEL age 51 are living side by side in > > Bethany, Jefferson County, GA -- actually the 83rd MD. > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by AVG software. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.620 / Virus Database: 399 - Release Date: 3/11/2004 > > > ==== GAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact GAJEFFER-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

John, Colsby Smith is my fourth great-grandfather and this line has been extensively documented from his generation. Unless somebody has made a connection that I haven't seen, neither Noah nor Jordan Smith is in the Colsby Smith line. One of Colsby's sons, Micajah, had a son named David but I do not have any more info on him at the moment. Micajah was born 1786 Chatham Co., NC and married Elizabeth Duty. I am interested in the David T. Smith of Jefferson Co. since he married Frances Ross, sister to my third great-grandfather, Jonathan Ross (now you know where one of David's son's name came from). Jimbo ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [GAJEFFER] John Perry > I do feel that Noah SMITH of Jefferson County, GA who was married to > Wylanty WAY was related in some way to Rev. Jordan SMITH or his wife, Mary > GAINER, because Joseph and Rev. SMITH were living side by side in 1820 in > Jefferson County, GA. Later, Rev. SMITH moved to Washington County, GA. > All of these SMITHS may have also been related, in some way, to Colby SMITH > and Rebecca Ann HENRY, also of Washington County, GA because I have an L. C. > SMITH that married Julia R. DANIEL (b. ABT 1842) in 1859. She was the > daughter of Robert W. DANIEL, my GGF, but by a different wife. In 1860, > this, some say Luther (Lewis is also a possibility) C. SMITH, age 24, Noah > SMITH, age 42 and Robert W. DANIEL age 51 are living side by side in > Bethany, Jefferson County, GA -- actually the 83rd MD. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by AVG software. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.620 / Virus Database: 399 - Release Date: 3/11/2004

Yes, I do. Greene Berry MARSHALL was the son of a William MARSHALL and Elizabeth LEE. He was born in Richland County, SC in 1792 and died in Tuskegee, Macon County, Alabama in 1853. Greene Berry MARSHALL, married Frances COLEMAN, d/o Lindsay COLEMAN and Sarah STUBBS of Richmond County, GA. Lindsay was the brother of Eliza Ann COLEMAN who married Gen. John SCOTT (1773-1839) of Montgomery, AL. How do you have connections into this bunch? John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawn Williams" <dawnwilliams@bellsouth.net> To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 4:38 PM Subject: [GAJEFFER] Marshall > John, > Do you have anything on Green B. Marshall? > Dawn > > > ==== GAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the GAJEFFER mailing list, use GAJEFFER-l-request@rootsweb.com or GAJEFFER-d-request@rootsweb.com if you are on the Digest list. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Dawn, Well, I think Martha PARTIN of Crawford County, GA was his first wife and she died ABT 1850 so that matches up. Hinson QUINNEY was born ABT 1805 and his wife, Mahala MARSHALL was born 1810, so their child, Nancy, would have been born ABt 1830 and she could have married John after Martha died. Let's say ABT 1855. Have you ever gotten any more on the MARSHALLS? The PERRYS and the MARSHALLS must have been pretty close even before the marriage of John PERRY (1799-1863) to Nancy QUINNEY because John's sister Ann Perry DANIEL (1809-1861) was the co-executor along with her husband, James Lane DANIEL (1814-1857), of the will of Mahala's grandmother, Ann MARSHALL (ABT 1770-1845), widow of Joseph MARSHALL, Sr. (ABT 1765-ABT 1820) of Jefferson County, GA. I do feel that Noah SMITH of Jefferson County, GA who was married to Wylanty WAY was related in some way to Rev. Jordan SMITH or his wife, Mary GAINER, because Joseph and Rev. SMITH were living side by side in 1820 in Jefferson County, GA. Later, Rev. SMITH moved to Washington County, GA. All of these SMITHS may have also been related, in some way, to Colby SMITH and Rebecca Ann HENRY, also of Washington County, GA because I have an L. C. SMITH that married Julia R. DANIEL (b. ABT 1842) in 1859. She was the daughter of Robert W. DANIEL, my GGF, but by a different wife. In 1860, this, some say Luther (Lewis is also a possibility) C. SMITH, age 24, Noah SMITH, age 42 and Robert W. DANIEL age 51 are living side by side in Bethany, Jefferson County, GA -- actually the 83rd MD. I am still trying to find that WILCOX/WILCOXEN that married Julia R.'s sister, Mary Green DANIEL who was born ABT 1848. We know Mary was married by 1867 when her father's will was probated but I do not know what happened to either of these two girls, after 1867. I also do not know what happened to their brother, James R. DANIEL born 1850. I think he married a Sarah Julia MURPHY ABT 1871 but she and her daughter died in 1874 and I do not know what happened to him, afterwards. I think this MURPHY girl was daughter of a C. M. and G.D.A. Murphy she is buried with these Murphys in Lowry Cemetery, Jefferson County, GA. However, I do not know what happened to James R. DANIEL. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawn Williams" <dawnwilliams@bellsouth.net> To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 5:04 PM Subject: [GAJEFFER] John Perry > John, > John Perry's wife was Nancy Quinney, daughter of Hinson Quinney and Mahaley Abigale Marshall. John was her 2nd husband. > Dawn > > > ==== GAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact GAJEFFER-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Linda, Sorry I meant to send that to your e-mail. I don't think the link worked, I sent you another one privately. Dawn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawn Williams" <dawnwilliams@bellsouth.net> To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [GAJEFFER] Warren > Linda, > Try this website...this may be part of your Warrens. > > www.geocities.com/twincousin2334/STRINGER? and WARREN.html > Dawn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <LINDAL34@aol.com> > To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 5:27 PM > Subject: Re: [GAJEFFER] Warren > > > > Well, my John Warren had probably lived near his son in law in North > Carolina > > before they all migrated to Georgia after the Revolutionary War. I guess > I > > should look there. > > > > LL > > > > > > ==== GAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, > flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for > removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact GAJEFFER-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== GAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact GAJEFFER-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Linda, Try this website...this may be part of your Warrens. www.geocities.com/twincousin2334/STRINGER? and WARREN.html Dawn ----- Original Message ----- From: <LINDAL34@aol.com> To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [GAJEFFER] Warren > Well, my John Warren had probably lived near his son in law in North Carolina > before they all migrated to Georgia after the Revolutionary War. I guess I > should look there. > > LL > > > ==== GAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact GAJEFFER-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Well, my John Warren had probably lived near his son in law in North Carolina before they all migrated to Georgia after the Revolutionary War. I guess I should look there. LL

John, John Perry's wife was Nancy Quinney, daughter of Hinson Quinney and Mahaley Abigale Marshall. John was her 2nd husband. Dawn

John, Do you have anything on Green B. Marshall? Dawn

Well John, This really blows me away, gives me more to look for. I find that My James Broughton bn 1803 Ga and Theodochia Stewart Broughton bn 1803 SC went to Russell Co,Al abt 1840, were there in 1850 and sometime before1860 James died and I think they are buried in Shiloh Cemetery in Russell Co,Al I just haven't been able to get up there to look. I just wish I could find out who James Parents were. Thanks for your response. Betty R Taylor Russell Co, AL, 18th Dec. 1850, John W. PHILLIPS, Ass't. Marshall. > > Dwelling # 809 > Family # 809 > > James BROUGHTEN, 47, M, Farmer, 800, Ga > Ticia?, 49, F, , , SC (this is Theodochia Stewart called Dochia) > William, 16, M, , , Ga > Mary, 13, F, , , Ga born 1837?(This is MaryAnn bn 1837who married Eben Peyton Edwards bn 1835, was my husbands GGrandparents) > David?, 11, M, , , Ga Or Daniel (This is James I looked at the original) > Susan, 7, F, , , Ga In household #808 is Benjamin Edwards with his wife Lydia and their children. Right next door to them in hh#809, is James Broughton with his wife Docia. 1850 Russell Co., AL Census, pg 059A, household # 808. Benjamin Edwards 45m farmer $1,000 NC Lydia 40f SC(This is either Lydia Stewart or Lydia A M Johns, I have that he was married twice and not sure on that) James 18m GA Rigdon 12m GA Arnola 9f AL(This is Benjamin Aral Edwards Male bn 1841) Ann 7f AL Elizabeth 1f AL right next door is James Broughton (father of Mary Ann Broughton who's 2nd husband Eben Edwards is son of Benjamin Edwards. 1850 Russell Co., AL Census, pg 059A, household # 809 James Broughton 47m farmer $800 GA Docia 47f SC William 16m GA Mary 13f GA This is Mary Ann Broughton James 11m GA Susan 7f GA In a message dated 3/25/2004 10:57:21 AM Central Standard Time, jclarke@rose.net writes: The BROUGHTONS were from Charleston, I know that some of them migrated to Morgan and Jasper County, GA. I did not know they were down in Jefferson County, GA, too....... A lot of Hancock County, GA families ended up in Russell County, AL, as well as Columbus, Muscogee County, GA. A lot of Hancock families were originally from Wilkes County, GA so you might want to look for connections, there, and this would have been on the migration path to Morgan and Jasper County, GA. I also know that Dr. William Bainbridge RIVERS (1827-1879) of "Rivers Hill," Newton County, GA and his father-in-law, Rev. Edward Lloyd THOMAS (1778-1852) of Oxford, Newton County, GA laid out the City of Columbus, GA. They were real heavy into the surveying business. RIVERS was from James Island, SC, the outskirts of Charleston. Rev. THOMAS was married to a Mary "Stewart" L. HOGUE, d/o a Jacob HOGUE and Effie and the HUGUES and THOMAS's were out of VA. Exactly were, we do not know. There were only three boys from Oxford College who were later made generals in the CSA. They were -- Gen. Edward Lloyd THOMAS, Jr. of Newton County, GA, Gen. Reuben W. CARSWELL of Jefferson County, GA and Gen. L. Q. C. LAMAR, Jr. of Putnam County, GA. We know the CARSWELLS were collateral with my DANIEL bunch in various ways in and around Jefferson County, GA. Gen. THOMAS was the brother-in-law of Dr. RIVERS whose brother, Professor Winfield M. RIVERS, married my GGM, Mary Jane RENEAU (1830-1912) after the death of my GGF, Robert W. DANIEL (1809-1865) of Bethany, Jefferson County, GA. Also, in 1850, Professor RIVERS was living with Gen. LAMAR's mother, Mrs. Sarah Williamson Bird LAMAR, in Newton County, GA. Another CSA general that was close to my bunch was Gen. Beverly Daniel EVANS of Sandersville, Washington County, GA. He was married to SMITH-TARVER descendants of Burke and Jefferson County, GA. His GGF, was a Chesely DANIEL, a given name also in my bunch. So, does all of this connect, YES...... How, I do not quite know.. I know most of the individual parts but not how the puzzle goes all together...... John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA

Betty, The BROUGHTONS were from Charleston, I know that some of them migrated to Morgan and Jasper County, GA. I did not know they were down in Jefferson County, GA, too....... A lot of Hancock County, GA families ended up in Russell County, AL, as well as Columbus, Muscogee County, GA. A lot of Hancock families were originally from Wilkes County, GA so you might want to look for connections, there, and this would have been on the migration path to Morgan and Jasper County, GA. I also know that Dr. William Bainbridge RIVERS (1827-1879) of "Rivers Hill," Newton County, GA and his father-in-law, Rev. Edward Lloyd THOMAS (1778-1852) of Oxford, Newton County, GA laid out the City of Columbus, GA. They were real heavy into the surveying business. RIVERS was from James Island, SC, the outskirts of Charleston. Rev. THOMAS was married to a Mary "Stewart" L. HOGUE, d/o a Jacob HOGUE and Effie and the HUGUES and THOMAS's were out of VA. Exactly were, we do not know. There were only three boys from Oxford College who were later made generals in the CSA. They were -- Gen. Edward Lloyd THOMAS, Jr. of Newton County, GA, Gen. Reuben W. CARSWELL of Jefferson County, GA and Gen. L. Q. C. LAMAR, Jr. of Putnam County, GA. We know the CARSWELLS were collateral with my DANIEL bunch in various ways in and around Jefferson County, GA. Gen. THOMAS was the brother-in-law of Dr. RIVERS whose brother, Professor Winfield M. RIVERS, married my GGM, Mary Jane RENEAU (1830-1912) after the death of my GGF, Robert W. DANIEL (1809-1865) of Bethany, Jefferson County, GA. Also, in 1850, Professor RIVERS was living with Gen. LAMAR's mother, Mrs. Sarah Williamson Bird LAMAR, in Newton County, GA. Another CSA general that was close to my bunch was Gen. Beverly Daniel EVANS of Sandersville, Washington County, GA. He was married to SMITH-TARVER descendants of Burke and Jefferson County, GA. His GGF, was a Chesely DANIEL, a given name also in my bunch. So, does all of this connect, YES...... How, I do not quite know.. I know most of the individual parts but not how the puzzle goes all together...... John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <ARTNFRAMES@aol.com> To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [GAJEFFER] Re: Jefferson Co. Ga Stewart/Broughton Family > Looking for the names of the parents of these families who married in > Jefferson Co.,Ga abt 1827 > > > James Broughton bn abt 1803 Married Theodochia Stewart bn 1803 > settled later abt 1840 in Russell Co, Al > > John Broughton Married Mary Millie Stewart > settled Maybe in Muscogee Co,Ga > > Thanks > Betty Rackley Taylor > > > ==== GAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact GAJEFFER-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Syl, I really do not look at families much after 1800 because they get very difficult to track after that time frame, surname wise and given name wise. I do know the KEY family was a close family to all of this bunch, especially to the JORDANS and was basically an IOW area family. However, what you have to watch for in the Jefferson and Burke County, GA areas is KEA and KEY, they were not the same bunch, as they say. My DANIEL bunch did not get to Jefferson County, GA until the late 1840's, after a short stint in Emanuel County, GA. However, their father and mother were in Burke by 1812, according to their mother's 1846 obit. She was a LANE. All of this makes me think that they had earlier connections to Jefferson County, GA and quite possibly Emanuel County, GA which was the early stomping grounds of Abraham Sheppard LANE RS-NC (1757-1848), who I think was a cousin of my Penelope LANE (1773-1846) of Burke. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <GRANDMAMAZ@aol.com> To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [GAJEFFER] Re: Jefferson Co. Ga Smith Family > John: > Thanks for the clues to possible SWAN(N) ancestors' locations. The only > possibility I've found so far was in the 1850 census mortality schedule for > WILLIAM SWAN who died at age 65 in January 1850, born SC. Of course, census > records contain lots of errors. > > In his 1850 will he names his wife, Elizabeth and his 9 sons: William, > Sidney, Henry Jackson, Josiah A, John C, Daniel H, Thomas E, Joshua Key, and Jabez N > Swan. There were no daughters. > William Swan is found in Louisville District, Jefferson County as early as > the 1820 census (although I'm not sure it is the same person), and is probably > the father of the William Swan who married Ganzada Smith. The younger William > Swan died in 1884 and land records describe his property in Louisville. > > Syl in Florida > > In a message dated 3/24/2004 10:29:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, > jclarke@rose.net writes: > ...The SWANNS were from around Surry, Henrico and later Nansemond > County, VA ...One thing we know about families in this part of GA, there was > more than a few of them from Swansboro, Onslow County, NC... > > > ==== GAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the GAJEFFER mailing list, use GAJEFFER-l-request@rootsweb.com or GAJEFFER-d-request@rootsweb.com if you are on the Digest list. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

My guess is -- this is all part of the Allen WARREN, Sr. (1662-1738) and Elizabeth Ann CLEMENTS of Surry County, VA. Which exact line in this family was the ancestor of your John, I do not know. We know that Hinchee WARREN (Robert, Allen, Sr.) moved to Burke and died there in 1803. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawn Williams" <dawnwilliams@bellsouth.net> To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [GAJEFFER] Warren > Linda, > I am a Warren descendant so I am always making copies of anything on the > Warrens in the Emanuel, Jefferson, Montgomery and surrounding areas. I do > have a few things I ran off from Jefferson Co. Court House on this John > Warren. I will have to dig around and find them. > Dawn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <LINDAL34@aol.com> > To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 7:51 PM > Subject: [GAJEFFER] Warren > > > > Does anyone know anything about a John Warren who died in Jefferson County > in > > 1801. He had one daughter married to a Stephen Vaugh or Vaughn and > another > > daughter who had married Brittain Smith but who died before her father's > will > > was written in 1797. This John Warren also had a son named Thomas and a > > grandson named Wilson. His wife at the time of his death was named Mary. > I think > > all of Brittain's children were born in North Carolina . > > > > Linda > > > > > > ==== GAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > > If you wish to unsubscribe from the GAJEFFER mailing list, use > GAJEFFER-l-request@rootsweb.com or GAJEFFER-d-request@rootsweb.com if you > are on the Digest list. > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== GAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact GAJEFFER-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

The RATCLIFFS were out of the Southside area -- IOW, Nansemond County, Surry and Sussex County, VA, early. They were tied to the KNIGHTS, JORDANS and WOODSONS and this set. The PORTERS would also seem to fit into this bunch. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "David R. Wilson" <drwilson225@comcast.net> To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [GAJEFFER] Re: Surname Lookup in Cemetery book _ Jefferson Co. > In reference to the wills, this is the family of John VINING who is the > same John who wrote the will. > > This came from The Latter-Day Saints genealogy site. Be warned! I use this > history as a research reference and try to prove the family group. A lot of > this stuff was recorded be for the day of the computer. > > Have fun, > > > Husband's Name > John VINING B: 1758 Of Jefferson, Ga D: 1833 Jefferson, GA M: NC > > Father: John VINING > Mother: Sarah RATCLIFFE > > Wife's Name > Sarah RATCLIFF B: Abt. 1762 <Of Jefferson, Ga> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---- > > Husband's Name > John VINING B: 1725 Sutton, Worcester, Ma D: 26 Apr 1801 Jefferson, Ga M: > 1750 Aversboro, Johnson, NC > > Father: William VINING > Mother: Anna NICHOLS > > Wife's Name > Sarah RATCLIFFE B: 1725 Of Nc Died: 1801 > > Father: Benjamin RATCLIFF > Mother: Jeane PORTER > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---- > Children > > 1. Kadar (Cadar) VINING Born: Abt. 1749 Place: , Of Jefferson, Ga Died: > Aft 1820 > 2. Thomas VINING Born: 1760 Place: <, Of Jefferson, Ga> Died: Bef 1801 > 3. Abigail VINING Born: 1758 Place: <, Of Jefferson, Ga> > 4. Ann VINING Born: 1756 Place: <South Carolina> > 5. John VINING B: 1758 Of Jefferson, Ga D: 1833 Jefferson, Georgia > 6. Shadrack VINING B: 1756 Of Jefferson, Ga D: 1805 Jefferson, Ga > 7. William VINING Born: 1750 Place: <, Of Jefferson, Ga> > 8. Sarah VINING Born: 1746 Place: <Nc> > 9. M Jesse VINING Born: 1760 Place: South Carolina > 10. Cadar VINING Born: 1748 Place: <, Of Jefferson, Ga> > > > > ==== GAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact GAJEFFER-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Jim, Yes, there more than several sets of DANIELS in this area, some of which I can identity. All of this is by the 1820 time frame. In Washington County, GA there was the Ezekiel DANIEL set. They were part of the Northampton County, NC DANIEL family, which was part of the Thomas DANIEL family of IOW County, VA. There was also a William DANIEL and Elizabeth SKINNER family and he was of Ireland and she was from NY. A McDANIEL family is also in Washington and collateral with this Daniel-Skinner family. In Burke County, GA, there were also several sets of DANIELS, some of which were descendants of Aaron DANIEL and Betsy WHITFIELD. This is also part of the IOW clan. There is also my bunch from Greene County, NC and we are not sure who they were but my guess is they were also part of the IOW clan. In Jefferson County, GA, there were not a lot of DANIELS there, early. There were DONALDSONS but some of them later migrated to Bulloch County, GA. In Emanuel County, GA there were several sets of DANIELS or DANIEL related families. One of these was the DANIELL family out of Bogart, Oconee County, GA, quite possibly William DANIELL, Jr. who was quite prosperous in Emanuel County, GA. In Laurens, we have part of the Aaron and Betsy Whitfield DANIEL family, part of which was also in Burke. This bunch migrated south from Duplin to the Cheraw area of SC and after Aaron and Betsy died, their kids migrated to GA. Their son, Benjamin and Lucretia Burgamy DANIEL were in Laurens, formerly part of Washington County, GA. The BRANTLEYS are also collateral with this Laurens County, GA DANIEL family. There were also several DANIEL families in Richmond County, GA and some of these families later moved into Burke County, GA. There was a John and a Jeptha DANIEL that really interest me. I know that my Robert DANIEL of Burke had a brother, William DANIEL, because he is mentioned in early court orders back in Greene County, NC and a Jeptha DANIEL is also mentioned in these orders. Several names which float around my DANIEL family are JORDAN and WARREN, besides LANE which we also know is collateral. I would love to see a confirmed linage of the "Warren" DANIELS of Burke and Richmond and a linage for the Robert DANIEL of Augusta, for which the Augusta airport is named. I would more or less guess, they were probably related to my overall bunch. My best guess is the WHITFIELDS, BRYANS, WARRENS, COUNCILS, TYSONS, WOOTENS, SMITHS, ANDREWS, GARDNERS, FORTS, BYNUMS, possibly ROGERS, CASON, CANNON and this whole bunch out of Pitt, Warren, Wayne, Greene, Craven and that area of NC are probably part of my overall DANIEL bunch. I also think my Capt. Isham LANE (ABT 1730-1801) of Greene/Wayne County, NC and Levin LANE (ABT 1730-1790) of Jones County, NC were brothers and I think their father was a son of Joseph LANE, Sr. and Julian JARRELL of Edgecombe County, NC. They may even have been first cousins but it is still the same LANE bunch. Burke, Jefferson and Washington County, GA families are really a mess because these are "burned over" counties. A lot of their records are reconstructed records and they cannot be trusted, one bit. Green County, NC is also a burned over county, so we have the same problem, there. We also have much of the same problem over in SC in many counties. One might say, we have no records in these counties before the end of the CW and in that, you would be correct. This has led a lot of early researchers to "wing it" and rely on compiled genealogy, much of which we now know is incorrect, including a lot in Huxford's POWG, all of which is compiled, family provided genealogy. If one was to believe DAR applications, Capt. Aaron DANIEL (1733-ABT 1800) and Elizabeth WHITFIELD were probably the most prolific pair in history, none of which is correct. Some also list 1739 as Capt. Aaron's birth date but that is also incorrect, since he was "of age" (at least 16) in his father's 1749 will. He was also listed as being "of age" in his mother's 1752 will, so he was born at least by 1733. He was also a Captain during the RW and not an Ensign, as most list for him, because you always list their highest rank and he was a captain in Marion's Brigade, SC militia at the end of the RW. The problem we have with these DANIEL lines is many of them in the Jefferson County, GA neck of the woods (Burke, Richmond, Washington, Emanuel, Tattnall, Liberty and Laurens) descend from Thomas DANIEL of IOW County, VA, so DNA is not an option we can use to straighten them out. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Boland" <jboland@cfl.rr.com> To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 7:36 PM Subject: RE: [GAJEFFER] Re: Jefferson Co. Ga Smith Family > John... your Daniels were all over the place! I'll bet there was one with > Noah on the arc! > > -----Original Message----- > From: John R. Clarke [mailto:jclarke@rose.net] > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 10:29 AM > To: GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GAJEFFER] Re: Jefferson Co. Ga Smith Family > > Hi, > One name you have mentioned - SWANN really interests me. Some say that > Robert DANIEL (1718-1786) married a SWAIN but I have often considered the > possibility the SWANNS and SWAINS may have been one in the same families. > However, they are not. > > We know the SWAINS were all tied up with the SMITHWICKS, DANIELS, LANIERS, > WARDS, etc. in the Chowan County, NC area but these SWAINS were from MA, > originally. The SWANNS were from around Surry, Henrico and later Nansemond > County, VA with a whole different subset of families, so I can see no > information they were both parts of the same overall family. > > One thing we know about families in this part of GA, there was more than a > few of them from Swansboro, Onslow County, NC, especially the WEEKS family, > who were all over Jefferson and Emanuel County, GA. Due to the similarity > of SWANN to the name, Swansboro, I would tend to look in that area of NC for > this SWANN family or possibly in one of Onslow's surrounding counties. > > I am also a maternal WEEKS descendant and they were tied heavily to the > O'STEEN family, also one of my maternal lines in Wayne County, GA and before > that this WEEKS family lived in Swansboro, Onslow County, NC > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <GRANDMAMAZ@aol.com> > To: <GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 2:02 AM > Subject: [GAJEFFER] Re: Jefferson Co. Ga Smith Family > > > > Regarding NOAH SMITH: > > > > He witnessed the October 22, 1852 will of DAVID T SMITH of Jefferson > County, > > GA. > > Is there a family connection between Noah and David? I am searching for > > David's parents. > > > > In his will, David T Smith mentioned his wife, Frances > > his eldest son, Jefferson C Smith > > his married daughters: Sarah M Pipkin, Eliza A Atwell, Gowzady S Swan > > his unmarried daughter, Adeline A Smith > > his unmarried sons: Patrick H, David T, James M, Jonathan P, and William E > > Smith. > > > > The 1850 census indicates that David T Smith, age 57, was born in North > > Carolina. > > I don't know where David and his family were buried. His daughter, > Ganzada S > > (Smith) Swann (1827-1906) is buried at the Swann Cemetery in Wrens, > Jefferson > > Co, GA. > > > > Any information about David T Smith and his ancestors would be > appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Syl in Florida > > > > > > ==== GAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, > flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for > removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact GAJEFFER-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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In reference to the wills, this is the family of John VINING who is the same John who wrote the will. This came from The Latter-Day Saints genealogy site. Be warned! I use this history as a research reference and try to prove the family group. A lot of this stuff was recorded be for the day of the computer. Have fun, Husband's Name John VINING B: 1758 Of Jefferson, Ga D: 1833 Jefferson, GA M: NC Father: John VINING Mother: Sarah RATCLIFFE Wife's Name Sarah RATCLIFF B: Abt. 1762 <Of Jefferson, Ga> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Husband's Name John VINING B: 1725 Sutton, Worcester, Ma D: 26 Apr 1801 Jefferson, Ga M: 1750 Aversboro, Johnson, NC Father: William VINING Mother: Anna NICHOLS Wife's Name Sarah RATCLIFFE B: 1725 Of Nc Died: 1801 Father: Benjamin RATCLIFF Mother: Jeane PORTER ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Children 1. Kadar (Cadar) VINING Born: Abt. 1749 Place: , Of Jefferson, Ga Died: Aft 1820 2. Thomas VINING Born: 1760 Place: <, Of Jefferson, Ga> Died: Bef 1801 3. Abigail VINING Born: 1758 Place: <, Of Jefferson, Ga> 4. Ann VINING Born: 1756 Place: <South Carolina> 5. John VINING B: 1758 Of Jefferson, Ga D: 1833 Jefferson, Georgia 6. Shadrack VINING B: 1756 Of Jefferson, Ga D: 1805 Jefferson, Ga 7. William VINING Born: 1750 Place: <, Of Jefferson, Ga> 8. Sarah VINING Born: 1746 Place: <Nc> 9. M Jesse VINING Born: 1760 Place: South Carolina 10. Cadar VINING Born: 1748 Place: <, Of Jefferson, Ga>

The plaque said William Parker donated the land in 1827. Bathsheba died after 1835 and before 1840. William died February of 1857. Jean

Thanks Tom ----Original Message Follows---- From: Reply-To: GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com To: GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GAJEFFER] Re: Surname Lookup in Cemetery book _ Jefferson Co. Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 17:46:18 EST Kathy, I found three Vinings (no Vinnings) in the cemetery at Stapleton Baptist Church. Jasper L. Vining 1865-1935 Mary Willis Wife of Jasper Vining 1 Dec 1827 10 Nov 1909 Rosa Lee Lamar Wife of Jasper L. Vining 1883-1935 Tom Williams In a message dated 3/24/2004 3:02:20 PM Central Standard Time, southerngirl441@hotmail.com writes: Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 23:17:46 -0600 From: "southerngirl441 @hotmail.com" <southerngirl441@hotmail.com> To: GAJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GAJEFFER] Surname Lookup in Cemetery book _ Jefferson Co. Tom Will you look up a Surname for me in your Jefferson County Cemetery book? I will dance at your next wedding if you will. The name Im looking for information on is VINING or VINNING. My email address is southerngirl441@hotmail.com. I thank you. Kathy ==== GAJEFFER Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the GAJEFFER mailing list, use GAJEFFER-l-request@rootsweb.com or GAJEFFER-d-request@rootsweb.com if you are on the Digest list. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Check out MSN PC Safety & Security to help ensure your PC is protected and safe. http://specials.msn.com/msn/security.asp