Dear Luana, Wow, what a small world, and how cool is it how things always come together in Genealogy in the strangest ways. First of all, I am most interested in that 1847 deed. I have only gone through deeds up to about 1820 looking for my ancestors. Now, about this John White and Barsheba Gunter of yours. I do not believe this John White is related to me as of yet. There were two White families living in the Vann's Creek and Ruckersville area of Elbert County after the Revolution era. Though both families had a John White and Thomas White in their lines, the rest of their families have been pretty easy to separate in records and books. The "John white" I have seen in Elbert Co. records has been a challenge for me, trying to keep them separate. My Thomas White, RWS, was said to have named his oldest son named John White after his beloved father. It is also rumored that this John White was married to a Rachel Carter, d/o Josiah Carter and Mary Anthony, on November 25, 1812 in Warren County, Georgia, but I have not yet been able to find concrete proof of the relationship as of yet. Since every White family in Georgia had to name a son "John White", there are a zillion "John White" men all over Georgia in pre-Civil War records, so it has been hard to find mine. I'll get to my point. I was in the Jasper County, Georgia courthouse recently searching for records on my Joseph White, s/o my Thomas White, RWS, and brother to the above mentioned John White who married Rachel Carter. While searching through indexes, I recorded other non-related Whites found in the "early" Jasper County record books, just in case (you never know, just like right now). In the Jasper County Record Book "General Index of Estates 1812-1841 M-Z", I found the following listing which you should find exciting: Estate of John White, dec'd Isham Gunter & Bashaba White (execs) July 31, 1823 Will (Return Book 4, page 136) 1824 Order: Letter Testamentary (Minutes Book A, page 38) 1824 Inventory & Appraisal: Warrant of Appl. (Minutes Book A, page 38) Mar. 6, 1824 Inventory & appraisal: Appraisement (Return Book 4, page 138) 1826 Annual Return (Return Book 4, page 139) 1831 Annual return (Return Book 4, page 140) This is all the documents recorded for the estate of John White, deceased, in Jasper County. There are many second and third generation Whites listed in the General Indexes of Estates, but I only recorded the ones related to me, due to so many being listed as the years progressed. I'd suggest either making a trip to the courthouse to look up heirs of your John & Bashaba White (and Gunters), or go to the new Georgia Archives in Morrow to view the estate index on microfilm. I did see a couple land records for a John White in early Deed books of Jasper County. Perhaps these belong to your John White. It is worth a look: John White, Grantor Deed Book 5, page 72-73 John White, Grantee Deed Book 2, page 214 I did not record all Whites in the Land Indexes. There were two many and time was running out. I only copied my line of Whites I could identify. You might want to check the deed books for more names you know are related to you. I hope this helps. I had wondered who this John and Bashaba White were, and I'm glad I could pass them along to you. I wish you luck on your research. God Speed! Robert C. Johnston, Jr. Member, NSSAR #160541 Wetumpka, Alabama -----Original Message----- From: LS [mailto:mygen@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 1:58 AM To: GAELBERT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GAELBERT] Thomas White, RWS, Family of Elbert County Hey Robert, Sorry I can't help you with your Thomas and Elizabeth White, but from 1847 deed info I have it seems your Rucker and Allen surnames were neighbors to my Bell's in Elbert on the waters of Falling Creek. You seem to have done quite a bit of thorough research and may already have the info from the deed I am referring to...but if not I'd be happy to provide it. Although I can't quite connect based on the info you provided, I do have a John White in my database married to Barsheba Gunter (married June 1 1803) in Elbert Co. The Gunter's being one of my main lines in Elbert, Barsheba is my 4th great grand Aunt. Can you relate to this John White & Barsheba Gunter? Luana Robert C. Johnston, Jr. wrote: >Since it has been stated this list is quite, how about a Roll Call to >see if communication can pick up on this list. Also, many other >Counties in Georgia have lots of activity posting records on the >Archives portion of Rootsweb, using their forms, which also generates a >lot of excitement. I've got some records I'm working on transcribing >for Elbert County to be posted and shared with, which I obtained from >the GA Archives, and I'd like others to do the same. > >I'm researching several families with early Elbert County connections >(i.e. Allen, Goss, Heard, Gilliland, Hooper, Oliver, Rucker, etc.), but >the family I'm currently working on, and most passionate about, is that >of the Thomas and Elizabeth White family of Elbert County. Thomas >White, RWS, was the s/o John White and Ann Wisdom of Orange County, VA. >Thomas White was first married to Sarah Shelton, d/o Henry Shelton of >Albemarle County. After her death, Thomas married second to Elizabeth >Long in Orange County and they later moved the family down to Elbert >Co., GA during the mid 1790s. It is not known when and where Thomas and >Elizabeth died. He owned land in VA, KY, and GA, mostly from >inheritances and grants for service in the war, so it is possible he >could have died anywhere. His children by his first wife were as >follows: John White, Joseph White, Shelton White, William White, Henry >White, Thomas White and Nancy White Oliver. Henry White was the only >child to died in Elbert County. The rest either moved to Central >Georgia or to North Mississippi. I descend from Nancy White, w/o Caleb >Oliver who died in Elbert Co., GA prior to 1830. > >I am desperately trying to proof beyond-a-reasonable-doubt who the >children and heirs of Thomas White, RWS, were. Without knowing when and >where he died, it is impossible to locate any estate records. I'm >hoping by tracing down descendants of his said-to-be children, I can >hopefully one day find an old family bible or letter that would prove >who his children were. According to Mrs. Elizabeth Saunders Blair >Stubbs of New Orleans, in her 1899 Genealogy portion of the book "Early >Settlers of Alabama" by Col. James Edmonds Saunders of Lawrence County, >Alabama, she listed the above mentioned children of Thomas White, RWS, >but gave no reference as to where she got the information from 105 >years ago. I would like to know where the information came from, >especially if the author in 1899 didn't know when or where Thomas >White, RWS, lived and died. If you are familiar with this family, are >researching this family, or are a descendant of the family but you >haven't started researching them, please contact me. Any help or >guidance in proving the lineage of this family would be greatly >appreciated. > >God Speed! > >Robert C. Johnston, Jr. >Wetumpka, AL > > > > > > ______________________________