This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bd.2ADE/706.1.1 Message Board Post: I didn't think Heard County would have many women named Fannie Daniel. The reason there were no "vitals" listed was I thought to get the right Fannie Daniel I would see if any replies would be the right Fannie. The only "vital" I know of was that this Fannie Daniels was married to James W. Street. Thank you, Fred

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Bd.2ADE/701.1.2.1.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Here is a link to the Historical Society address - http://www.heardgeorgia.org/qualityoflifepages/historicalcenter.htm

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Bd.2ADE/701.1.2.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Yes, there is an article on Owensbyville, written by Mary Jean Owensby Banks. I believe you'd contact the Heard County Historical Society, in Franklin, about a copy.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Owensby, Starr, Lewallen/Luallen, Maxwell, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bd.2ADE/701.1.2.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Is there any mention in the History of Heard County about a town called "Owensbyville'? At one time there was a Post Office there, but was closed around 1910, I think. I am researching the Owensby family that lived there for 2 generations. Also, what is the exact name of the book and who published it in what year. I definitely want to try and find a copy of it but need this info to find it. Thanks alot!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bd.2ADE/706.1 Message Board Post: I suppose it all depends on what year this Fannie Daniel was born and who the others might have been in her family. I have at least one in my Daniel family lines. I have Fanny Bell Daniel, daughter of Jepp Daniel & Fannie Lois Robinson. Your query did not include vitals so can only guess which family your Fannie might have come from.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Heard, Street, Potts, Brand, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bd.2ADE/706 Message Board Post: Anyone have any information on a, Fannie Daniel? Anything at all will help. Thanks, Fred------www.LTATUM2000@aol.com

Anyone have any information on a Fannie Daniel? Anything at all will help. Thanks, Fred------www.LTATUM2000@aol.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bd.2ADE/705.1 Message Board Post: That is wonderful ! Can you specify who those 7 men were that were traders & surveyors ? Among my most treasured reference resources is a small book by James C. Bonner which I had to copy at the Archives in Atlanta (and failed to copy the front page....aaarrrgghh) so I don't know the name of the book but is a really great little book and, of course, Lynda's History of Heard County plus all the census books and her cemetery book. Would not take a million dollars for any of these. In terms of researching our ancestors, they are worth their weight in gold.

Where would one get a copy or view this book? Do you think it could be interlibrary loaned from the Heard County, Georgia library to the Walker County, Alabama library? ----- Original Message ----- From: <oscarcat@negaverse.com> To: <GAHEARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 11:18 PM Subject: [GAHEARD] Re: Heard County, Georgia Cemeteries > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bd.2ADE/701.1.2.1.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > In the book, History of Heard County, 1830-1990, there is a short history in the front of the bookIt appears that the US Government had agents in the area working towards getting the land ceded by the Indians and there were white settlers living in the area. There were two groups of Indians living in what is now Heard County, villages of about about 50-60 people and they were known as the "Upper Creek" and "Lower Creek". One group was pm tje west side of the river south of Franklin where Brush Creek enters the river. The other on the Chattahoochee just north of Franklin, possibly where Harris Creek and Centralhatchee Creek flow into the river. So my Lucius J.M. Bell's family must have born to one of the settler's families and probably lived around the Salem UMC area which is kind of in the center of what is today Heard County. One interesting thing is the county was named from Stephen Heard who was born in Virginia and died in Elbert county, Georgia where my Cheek, if I! > have the right one, was born. If you have access to the History of heard County book it has a lot of useful and very interesting information in it. There is a list of owners of five or more slaves in Heard County in 1860. Heard County had about a 2000 jump in population in 1900 that stayed up through 1920 and dropped back down to 9,201 in 1940 and down to 5,333 in 1960. You know, the first 160 pages of The History of Heard County would make a very nice smaller book with some updating, some more pictures and could be sold as a money making project. The original book has 450 pages with the Family Histories starting at page 161. The Family Histories section could be updated also to include more families like the ones we are researching. It would be nice if the book were available on CD's. If you do not have a copy of the book get one if you have an interest in Heard County. It is a wonderful book. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bd.2ADE/705 Message Board Post: Subj: Re: [GAHEARD] settling in Heard prior to county's formation?? Date: 10/26/03 3:37:15 AM Pacific Standard Time From: deller@mindspring.com To: VCJFreeman@aol.com Sent from the Internet (Details) Jane and Valerie: We know of at least 7 men who were in the area that became Heard Co. in the early 1820's with the Indians as traders and surveying the land along the state line and the river. Don't forget to check Fayette Co., GA for early marriage records of people who settled in Heard and Randolph Co., AL. We have found several marriages there! Lynda (P.S.-- I have had to be a lurker for the past few months due to viruses in the computer, I could receive some of the messages but had problems getting messages out and my spam protection stopped some messages from getting in.)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bd.2ADE/701.1.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: In the book, History of Heard County, 1830-1990, there is a short history in the front of the bookIt appears that the US Government had agents in the area working towards getting the land ceded by the Indians and there were white settlers living in the area. There were two groups of Indians living in what is now Heard County, villages of about about 50-60 people and they were known as the "Upper Creek" and "Lower Creek". One group was pm tje west side of the river south of Franklin where Brush Creek enters the river. The other on the Chattahoochee just north of Franklin, possibly where Harris Creek and Centralhatchee Creek flow into the river. So my Lucius J.M. Bell's family must have born to one of the settler's families and probably lived around the Salem UMC area which is kind of in the center of what is today Heard County. One interesting thing is the county was named from Stephen Heard who was born in Virginia and died in Elbert county, Georgia where my Cheek, if I! have the right one, was born. If you have access to the History of heard County book it has a lot of useful and very interesting information in it. There is a list of owners of five or more slaves in Heard County in 1860. Heard County had about a 2000 jump in population in 1900 that stayed up through 1920 and dropped back down to 9,201 in 1940 and down to 5,333 in 1960. You know, the first 160 pages of The History of Heard County would make a very nice smaller book with some updating, some more pictures and could be sold as a money making project. The original book has 450 pages with the Family Histories starting at page 161. The Family Histories section could be updated also to include more families like the ones we are researching. It would be nice if the book were available on CD's. If you do not have a copy of the book get one if you have an interest in Heard County. It is a wonderful book.

Jane -- > Now, how is it possible that both she and he were born in Heard County, GA > when that county was not formed until 1830 ? Is there any possibility that > the men might have been soldiers sent to the frontier because of the Indians, > or could they have been connected to a trading post located in that area? I'll just throw this in -- as I am sure you know, Coweta Co. was not created until Dec 1825. However, Bob's 5X Great-grandfather, Aquilla Hardy, was there in 1824. He was a trader and rented lands from the Indians in the area that is now part of the Sixth District of Coweta Co, near old Kendron/Fayette Co. line. According to the Coweta history books, he was the first white settler of the area. In other words, your theory is not completely nuts! Lynda Eller -- are you monitoring this discussion? Do you have any input? Valerie Freeman Tustin, California

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bd.2ADE/701.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Carolyn: I'm a bit late in answering e-mails. Thank you for all the info on your Daniel line -- they don't look like thay fit in with mine but then I don't know much about Ed Daniel or his wife Carri(White) Daniel as to whom either of their parents were or who their brothers and sisters might be. I will save this info as I continue my searching. My husband and I live in Bristol, Rhode Island -- I moved with my parents to Barrington, RI in 1968 and have been in and around the area ever since with the exception of a time spent out of state in college. Where did you live when you were here? It's such a small state that everyone knows everyone!~ Annie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bd.2ADE/704.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Yes, names can be quite confusing at times. In my great grandmother's immediate family, her name was Martha, her 2nd daughter was named Martha (she died age 4), and her youngest child (my grandmother) was named Martha. So, we do have to look at all possibilities when researching family. On the other hand, I would simply give my eyeteeth to learn more about those early days in Heard (& surrounding counties) before it was formed in 1830. The only fort I've been able to find anywhere close was Fort Hawkins but I still know very little about it and the people associated with it. I've long had the feeling that if we knew more about those early days, we would come nearer to finding those elusive ancestors of ours, or at least some of them. This is one of those times when I really wish that Mrs. Eller would jump in with all four feet and help us out. She knows so much about the history of Heard County and I consider her way up there on a pedestal when I think of ! experts.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bd.2ADE/704.1.1.1 Message Board Post: According to the 1880 Census Sarah Cheek was born in Alabama so I am wondering if there were two Sarah Cheeks and if the one from Elbert County is the right one. According to the 1880 Census her father was born in North Carolina and her mother was born in Georgia. The information on the Cheek site says her father was born in Laurens, South Carolina and no place of birth for her mother. It does get confusing.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bd.2ADE/704.1.1 Message Board Post: Heard County being formed in 1830 I guess is overlooked and they lived in what became Heard County. Funny, I never thought about it. If you would like information on the Cheek Family, I did and asked and also found the following site in which I am totally into checking the informatioin and trying to resolve the Franklin thing, Franklin County, Georgia/Franklin in Heard County and I think there is also a Franklin in at least one more state. It has my mind spinning. http://www.moonzstuff.com/Cheek/index.html Sarah Ann Cheek and Lucius J.M. Bell are included in the information but not much on them. The rest gets complicated. There is also a Cheek Book that is going to be published, limited to 500 copies. I wonder if it will have more on Sara and Lucius. There were people living in the Heard County area back when the Indians were there and before the government took their land and gave it to people in the Land Lotteries, at least two gave the land to white families. My Lancaster ancestors got land in the 1827 Land Lottery.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bd.2ADE/704.1 Message Board Post: Whoa doggie ! Talk about throwing buckshot into the fire ! My curiousity just went up about 100 degrees ! My great grandmother, who was an Adams, was also said to have been born in Heard County long about this time, too. Now, how is it possible that both she and he were born in Heard County, GA when that county was not formed until 1830 ? Is there any possibility that the men might have been soldiers sent to the frontier because of the Indians, or could they have been connected to a trading post located in that area ? And, I'm very curious as to why Sarah died in Elbert County but buried in Heard ?? I've been told that Sarah had some Indian blood in her lineage. Is this correct ? Gosh, I could ask a million questions ! Perhaps if you shared more on Sarah, some of the puzzle pieces might be answered, or someone might be able to add a tidbit here and there to make a more complete picture.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bd.2ADE/704 Message Board Post: Lucious J.M. Bell born 1813 in Heard County, Georgia, died 1914 and buried at Salem UMC. He married Sarah Ann Cheek July 3, 1834 in Elbert County, Georgia. She was born 1812 and died 1893 in elbert County, Georgia and is buried at Salem UMC also. I have just received a lot of information her but am stuck on him. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Bd.2ADE/703 Message Board Post: Am looking for information on Linton Wade Bell b 5 March 1900 Heard Co? d 7 June 1988 Greenville, SC. He married Lilla Evelyn Simonton b 24 June 1902 Heard Co daughter of Charles W. and Lena (Miller) Simonton. Wade and Evelyn were married 2 November 1919. Sometime after their marriage, they moved to Greenville, SC where they both died and are buried. Would like information on Wade's parents. TIA, Carolyn Simoton

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Bd.2ADE/702 Message Board Post: Just want to say a big thank you for all the information I gathered here from my first inquiry to the last. I found a lot of my husband's ancestors. This is really a great place! Carolyn