That is very sad. I can also see a distinct possibility in the naming pattern. I have two sets of great grandparents that lived in Heard County. One was Reuben Ashley Sr. (b. 1819) and Amanda Minerva Dunlap Ashley. The other one was Abraham Thompson and Martha Elizabeth "Patsy" Adams Thompson. Both of these had large families, but Reuben Sr. had at least two sons and Abraham had at least two daughters. Reuben Jr. married one of Abraham's daughters(Martha), and his brother William married the other daughter.(Sarah).....a case of brothers marrying sisters. Both Sarah & Martha had a brother named Joseph Lewis Thompson who married Mary Cansis Hammond (actually her birth name was Eugenia but the family changed it when she was 10 years old). Uncle Joe & Aunt Mary's daughter, Ollie Bell Thompson, was the one who married Robert Jefferson Daniel. One of the things I find the saddest in my genealogical pursuits is that people often just does not take the lines far enough to make the link they need to find so badly. I've had several researchers to tell me that they don't go past first cousins. And, many times in sharing family history with other cousins, they are not interested in any of the "knowns". All they want to know is who was the father of Abraham or Reuben Sr. Over 3,000 names of known descendants in my database and it seems ironic to me to fixate on one person only. I'd like to know that answer, too, but I also love knowing others in the family, and sharing old photos and family reunions.........perhaps I'm just getting old and far more sentimental about these things. Thank you for sharing that information with me. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack and Dorothy <dorothy917@bellsouth.net> To: <GAHEARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [GAHEARD] Alexander P. Daniel - Amanda C. McComb / McCombs - Heard County > It's a sad story . . . Rufus (middle name believed to be Alexander) Daniel > was "killed in a gin accident when 11 years of age. He got his head hung in > a horse-drawn lever. He is buried at Salem Methodist Church" (quoted from > the DLB notes). > > Your grandfather might have named your father in his memory.

It's a sad story . . . Rufus (middle name believed to be Alexander) Daniel was "killed in a gin accident when 11 years of age. He got his head hung in a horse-drawn lever. He is buried at Salem Methodist Church" (quoted from the DLB notes). Your grandfather might have named your father in his memory. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Benson" <jab50@bellsouth.net> To: <GAHEARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [GAHEARD] Alexander P. Daniel - Amanda C. McComb / McCombs - Heard County > I would like to know a little more about the child, Rufus, if you have > anything you might could share. I've searched throughout Heard County, GA > trying to figure out why my grandfather named my father Rufus. It really > was not that common a name back in those days (Dad was born 1897 in Heard > County). His full name was Rufus Andrew Ashley, but so far I have not > found a similar name in any of the Bell, Hammond, Thompson, Ashley, Bozeman, > etc. families that I am directly connected to except indirectly through the > Hardy, Kight families. I'll have to look back through my notes to find > that to make sure but seem to remember one of the Kight family members being > named Rufus. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <dorothy917@bellsouth.net> > To: <GAHEARD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 10:28 AM > Subject: [GAHEARD] Alexander P. Daniel - Amanda C. McComb / McCombs - Heard > County > > > > Amanda C. McComb married Alexander P. Daniel and they had twelve children: > John, Mary, William, Missouri, Rufus, Zilphia, Julia, Sarah, Rebecca, > Joseph, Lucy, and Martha. I have further info on most of these children, if > anyone wants/needs > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I would like to know a little more about the child, Rufus, if you have anything you might could share. I've searched throughout Heard County, GA trying to figure out why my grandfather named my father Rufus. It really was not that common a name back in those days (Dad was born 1897 in Heard County). His full name was Rufus Andrew Ashley, but so far I have not found a similar name in any of the Bell, Hammond, Thompson, Ashley, Bozeman, etc. families that I am directly connected to except indirectly through the Hardy, Kight families. I'll have to look back through my notes to find that to make sure but seem to remember one of the Kight family members being named Rufus. ----- Original Message ----- From: <dorothy917@bellsouth.net> To: <GAHEARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 10:28 AM Subject: [GAHEARD] Alexander P. Daniel - Amanda C. McComb / McCombs - Heard County > Amanda C. McComb married Alexander P. Daniel and they had twelve children: John, Mary, William, Missouri, Rufus, Zilphia, Julia, Sarah, Rebecca, Joseph, Lucy, and Martha. I have further info on most of these children, if anyone wants/needs

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Allen, Bailey, Daniel, Dansby, Hammond, McComb, Ransom, Simonton, Spradlin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Bd.2ADE/707 Message Board Post: I have received a little more information about Alexander P. Daniel, and will post it to see if anyone can make any connections - I still have not been able to determine where he came from. In 1964-65, Dorothy Lipham Barrett (grandaughter of Julia Daniel Lipham) compiled some notes on the family from interviews with older members still living, from cemetary markers, and from the daybook of Rebecca Criswell Daniel Hammond. A cousin sent me copies of DLB's notes. Two of the older relatives said that Alexander P. Daniel was an orphan (along with one or two of his brothers, one named Peter) and they were raised by their maternal grandmother who was a Matthews. They said the boys came from either Ireland or England. One source (Garland Daniel, grandson of John A. Daniel) said there were three brothers. "They crossed the Chattahoochee River at Hollingsworth Ferry. They camped one year on Hill Rock Hill above Olive Branch Missionary Baptist Church. Hollingsworth Ferry is in Heard County. Alexander settled north of Olive Branch and owned land on what was later known as Miss Mayhayley Lancaster's place." "One brother settled between Franklin, Georgia and LaGrange, Georgia. He was the forefather of Dr. John, Dr. Jim; George, Jim Humphrey (two different Daniel families). The father of Dr. John and that family was Buddy Jep; the father of George and that family was Isham." "The third brother went up the Chattahoochee River and settled in Douglas County. He belonged to the Primitive Baptist Church in Douglas County, Georgia." (Garland Daniel did not know the names of the brothers.) Alexander's middle name was Pleasant. He was born 14 Sept 1814 and died 24 Sept 1887. He and Amanda McComb were married 3 Dec 1840. Amanda C. McComb was born 23 June 1819, and died 8 July, 1893. She was the daughter of Andrew McComb and Zylphia Glenn. (Zylphia is found spelled various ways.) It is stated in the notes from DLB that Amanda's middle name was Catherine. Andrew McComb was born 9 April 1777, and died 16 March 1858. His wife Zilphia was born <1784> and died 15 June 1859. According to the notes made by DLB, "Andrew McComb's mother was a Criswell; and Zylphia's maiden name was Watkins. She had been married twice before - once to a Williams and once to a Glenn." (Their marriage was recorded in Richmond County, GA as Andrew McComb to Zilpha Glenn on 28 Nov. 1813.) I have no other documentation for any of the details in the statements about Alexander and where he came from - but maybe someone knows of a Daniel - Matthews connection? Andrew and Zilpha/Zilphey/Zilphia had five children: Thomas, John, Seaborn, Amanda, and Zilphia. Amanda C. McComb married Alexander P. Daniel and they had twelve children: John, Mary, William, Missouri, Rufus, Zilphia, Julia, Sarah, Rebecca, Joseph, Lucy, and Martha. I have further info on most of these children, if anyone wants/needs it. Andrew and Zilpha McComb, Alexander and Amanda Daniel, and several of their children and other descendants are buried at Salem UMC Cemetary in Heard County.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Daniel Family Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bd.2ADE/706.1.2.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Would anyone know of an Ed (Edward/Edmund) Daniel married to a Carrie White whose children were: Luther Edward, Willie Mae, James Robert, Vera, MaryEmma, Curtis and Ruby Lea Daniel? I have not been able to determine just who Ed Daniel's father/mother is -- Ed Daniel died in December 1918 at the age of 45-47. Thanks a million. Annie Oh yes, according to stories handed down, Ed Daniel had at least two brothers whose names were Rudolph and Percy as well as at least one sister.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Bd.2ADE/706.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: That is wonderful. I love putting family all together to make a complete whole. I can't help a great deal since I only have the lineage of one of John's sons but will gladly do my part to add to the family as much as I can. I don't know how to do those wonderful descendant charts they way some people do, so will just type it out this way: Robert Jefferson "Jeff" Daniel, b. August 21, 1874 in Heard County, GA, married October 2, 1898 in Heard County, GA to Ollie Bell Thompson, b. December 3, 1880 in Heard County, GA. Ollie Bell Thompson Daniel died September 5, 1964 in Richland, GA and was buried at the Enterprise Cemetery, Webster County, GA...age at death 83. Jeff died March 9, 1962 in Richland, GA and was buried at Enterprise Cemetery, Webster County, GA....age at death 87. Jeff & Ollie Bell Thompson Daniel's children were: Joseph Lewis Daniel, b. August 19, 1899 in Heard County, GA, died September 17, 1979 in Carroll County, GA and was buried in the Pleasant Grove Cemetery, Carroll County, GA...age at death 80. He married on August 3, 1924 Vassie Lou Holcombe, b. August 19, 1902, died June 4, 1976 in Carroll County, GA and was buried at Pleasant Grove Cemetery....age at death 73. Jepp Daniel, b. August 25, 1901, died February 4, 1987 in Carroll County, GA and was buried at Indian Creek Cemetery, Carroll County, GA....age at death 76. He married on December 24, 1922 to Annie Elizabeth Robinson, b. April 6, 1904, d. May 11, 1928 in Carroll County, GA and was buried at Indian Creek Cemetery Carroll County, GA...age at death 24. Jepp then married 2x on October 11, 1931 to Fannie Lois Robinson, b. April 2, 1909 (no other vital statistics on her in my files). Charlie Upson Daniel, b. March 10, 1903, died December 20, 1982...age at death 79. He married June 11, 1927 to Mary Ellen Tomlin, b. September 20, 1907 Katie Lee Daniel, b. December 23, 1904, died August 11, 1976 in Richland, GA and was buried at Harmony Cemetery in Richland, GA....age at death 71. She married on March 16, 1924 to Kenney Benard Stephens, b. October 31, 1902, died January 6, 1930 in Richland, GA and was buried at Harmony Cemetery.age at death 27. She married 2x on July 1, 1938 to Alston Highnote, b. August 4, 1902. Annie Maude Daniel, b. June 20, 1907 married Henry Dozier Blackstock, b. February 25, 1909, died April 17, 1970 and was buried at Enterprise Cemetery, Webster County, GA...age at death 61. Homer Blake Daniel, b. March 22, 1909, died April 17, 1994..age death 85. He married on December 22, 1933 to Cola Mae Donwer, b July 26, 1911, died January 2, 1991...age at death 79. Carrie Pauline Daniel, b. October 31, 1912 in Carroll County, GA.......still living so vitals left off here. She married Holcombe Dacus. Lunus Jefferson Daniel, b. August 7, 1917 in Carroll County, GA married Inez Smith, b. October 16, 1918 >From my Thompson family history notes: Ollie & Jeff Daniel were married in 1898, Heard County, GA. They were living in Carroll County, GA when Jeff became weary of farming small plots on rocky, hilly land in north Georgia. On a trip south with friends, he found an enormous amount of flat land just as he had always wanted, a farm so wide and long he could not see from one end of a row to another. Jeff traded for just such place, and proceeded to move his family to Webster County. This dream farm was known as the "Bob Harrell Place". In December 1922, Jeff and four sons Joe, Jepp, Charlie and Homer, loaded an assortment of farm tools and other belongings into a covered wagon pulled by two mules. Two horse and buggies were also used to carry passengers and personal belongings. Setting out to Webster County, their journey required six days on the road, camping out most nights, spending some nights in homes along the way. Other members of the family came later by car. In 1922 very few roads of this section ! were considered as improved. When the Daniel family arrived in Webster County, thinking his farm had been rent would be ready to occupy, he found the previous tenants had not moved and had no intentions of doing so. The Daniel family would not have possession until January. Fortunately, Ollie Daniel's youngest sister & brother-in-law lived nearby with their four year old son. The entire Daniel family moved in with them, sleeping on the floor, eating in shifts, until their place was available to move in. *Note: These wonderful family histories was shared with me by some of my Thompson family, who are also related to the Hammonds and others in Heard County......just simply no other way to put it than to say that they are undoubtedly some of the sweetest people on the face of the earth. Ollie Bell Thompson was the daughter of Joseph Lewis Thompson and he was the son of Abraham Thompson. My grandmother was the youngest child of Abraham Thompson.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Bd.2ADE/527.2.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: HI ED, i recived a large list from a doris here in tulsa i found on line,she is related throught my daniel line, well she got it from another researcher s.rogers.it is cem. in heard co. w/related family's on it,also tell's when they were located in heard co. so no i don't know if you can get it on-line-try google.com type the name of the cem. and where it is located,and see where it will take you, good luck with your hunt. kathy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Bd.2ADE/706.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Glad I could help! I am a descendant of John's sister, Rebecca Criswell Daniel Hammond. I am very interested in the whole family, as my husband is descended from another sister, Martha Daniel Simonton. There is a great picture of John posted by the Hyatt family - (his daughter Alice married a Hyatt.) found here: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaheard/albums/hyatt8.htm

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bd.2ADE/706.1.2.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks. That must be my John then. According to his granddaughter, John Anderson Daniel was born November 8, 1841 and died October 22, 1931. YEA !!! Thank you so much !

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Allen, Bailey, Daniel, Hammond, Simonton, Ransom Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Bd.2ADE/706.1.2.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Jane - the John Daniel who was a son of Alexander P. Daniel and Amanda McComb Daniel was born 8 Nov 1841, died 22 Oct 1931. He married Emily Wilson.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bd.2ADE/706.1.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I haven't been able to make a connecting link, either, Marie. According to the only descendant of this family line, and she is 93 years old, Robert Jefferson Daniel's father was John Anderson Daniel, born 11-08-1841. So I looked at the 1850 census and there are two John(s) who would be about the right age. There is a John Daniel, age 9, son of Alexander & Amanda Daniel. The other one is John Daniel, age 10, son of John Daniel & Dovey. There are only 7 households of Daniels in the entire 1850 census reports, all 7 heads of household close enough in age to be siblings..27, 27, 30, 35, 32, 48 & 48 respectively. All of them have names that are similar such as Benton Daniel, Isham Daniel & Edmund Daniel all have a child named July, etc. etc. Pieces of a puzzle maybe someday will be solved, I hope !

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bd.2ADE/706.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the information. I cannot connect this line to any of my Daniels but I am sure they must be connected because of the same names being used for some of the children. Jeptha seems to be one name for males that the Daniel Families were inclined to use in most families. Maybe will find a connection later. It is odd but it seems like a lot of people have one family member that left Heard County for whatever reason and kind of got disconnected in regards to paperwork. Marie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bd.2ADE/706.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Marie: My bunch did not all stay in Heard County either. This particular line of Daniel's comes from Robert Jefferson Daniel who married Ollie Bell Thompson. Jeff & Ollie Bell had Joseph Lewis Daniel, Jepp Daniel, Charlie Upson Daniel, Katie Lee Daniel, Annie Maude Daniel, Homer Blake Daniel, & Carrie Pauline Daniel. Jepp Daniel, born 1901 first married Annie Elizabeth Robinson (both of these buried at Indian Creek Cemetery, Carroll County, GA) & they had one child, Mary Elizabeth Daniel. Jepp married second to Fannie Lois Robinson & they had Fanny Bell Daniel, William Jeptha Daniel, James Robert Daniel, Cecil Eugene Daniel, Melba Lucille Daniel & Brenda Lee Daniel. My records are not showing where Fannie Lois Robinson Daniel is buried. And, I don't know what the relationship might have been between Mary Elizabeth Robinson & Fannie Lois Robinson. I would have to search for a 1900 census report to see if they were both listed in the same household and I haven't done that yet. Most of Ollie Bell Thompson & Robert Jefferson Daniel's children were born in Carroll County (although both she & he were born in Heard) and sometime thereafter, some of this family line moved on to Webster County, GA. I'm pretty sure I have some Huguley connected to my own family lines somehow but not knowledgeable enough to be able to say for sure. My great uncle, William Ashley, married a Thompson and it would be connected to this branch of my family lines.

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bd.2ADE/701.1.2.1.1.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: The title of the book is "History of Heard County Georgia 1830-1990. It was compiled by The Heard County Historical Society and I got it from them. Mine is a second reprint of 1996 and I do not think they have done a third reprint. I do not know if they still have copies. Recently I was told by someone at the Historical Society that they do not have E-mail at this time, which I found strange but I have never gotten a reply to any E-mail from them over a period of several years and I have never gotten a reply to an E-mail from Lynda Eller either. I have been using the wrong E-mail addresses or something else I guess. The only way I have been able to contact Lynda is by phone and the same with the Historical Society. If you get a response from them using the E-mail address at their site would be interested to know it works. Marie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bd.2ADE/706.1.2 Message Board Post: Would you mind sending me information on her and her family. I do not find a Jepp Daniel married to Fannie Lois Robinson in my information. I have a Fannie Robinson married to a Jacob Huguley but they are not part of my Heard County folks but another line that is not connected to Heard County except through me through my husband. Thanks.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bd.2ADE/706.1.1.1 Message Board Post: My Fanny married Kirby Ray Farmer but I also have a Mozelle Street in my Thompson/Daniel family lines. James Forbus born in Heard County 1921 married Mozelle Street born 1922. Sorry if I sounded short. It has been a rough day and it was not my intention to sound that way at all.