John, On the 1820 Hall Co. census, the name of the district that John Martin resides in is Capt. Elias Miller's District (not Oliver MIller). If you look about eight names above John Martin, you will see Elias Miller. The number at the bottom is not the GMD number, but rather the total number of persons in the district. There are no GMD numbers on this census. I'm not familiar with the names in Miller's District, so I can't make a guess at which GMD this is. I'm not sure of any records that might help determine the GMD for this district. Your best bet will be the deed records. Even if he didn't own land, you can look up one of his neighbors. Dan Pierce ----- Original Message ----- From: John E. Mellick To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [GAHALL] 1820 Census Oliver Miller district??? Hi Dan, Thanks for the info that you gave me about the origination of Hall Co. I believe you have totally cleared up the matter. (I feel that the amount of land given by Jackson & Franklin counties was probably a small percentage with respect to the amount from the Indian Lands.) My original query stated that I was interested in the John Martin family found in the 1820 census of Hall Co in the Oliver Miller District, Dist #615 ( I didn't include the Dist# in my original query). I looked at your maps at http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahall/hcmili.jpg but didn't see that number shown. I found the Martin family listing on the Hall Co site at http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahall/cenlook.htm (click way down to the Martins). Thanks again for straightening out the Hall Co originations, and can you locate Dist #615? John At 09:53 AM 5/11/02 -0700, you wrote: >John, > >Some sources state that Hall was created in 1818 out of Cherokee Lands, >Jackson County and Franklin County. As Donna pointed out, the infomation >on the Secretary of State's website says that Hall was formed by Act of >"December 15, 1818 and December 19, 1818" from "Cherokee cessions of July >8, 1817 and Feb. 27, 1819 - an original county." > >The opening paragraph from "The Families of Hall County, 1817-1849" by >Robert S. Davis, Jr., 1991 Magnolia Press, gives the following information: > >"Hall County was created from Cherokee Indian lands by Act of Decemter 15, >1818. Four days later another act gave the couty land from Jackson and >Franklin Counties to form what is today southeast Hall County. The rest >of the county, the area taken directly from the Cherokee Indians, was >divided into land lots and given to fortunate Georgians through the 1820 >land lottery." > >..."In addition to the above, Hall County was given addtional Cherokee >Indian lands adjoining Habersham and Rabun Counties by Act of December 21, >1819." > > >Apparently the Cherokee Lands were ceded July 8, 1817, then Hall County >was formed from these lands on December 15, 1818. So technically, Hall >County was originally formed only from Cherokee Lands. However, four days >later, parts of Jackson County and Franklin County were given to Hall >County, so effectively, Hall was formed in 1818 from Cherokee Lands, >Jackson County and Franklin County. More land was ceded by the Cherokee >on February 27, 1819 and given to Hall County on December 21, 1819. > >I don't have a copy of your original question, so I'm not sure exactly >what you wanted to know, but I don't know anything about the Oliver Miller >District. Are you saying that this district is listed on the 1820 census >of Hall County? The districts shown on the map on the Hall Co. website >are more recent district names. The names changed over time, but the GMD >district numbers remained the same. If you know the GMD number for Oliver >Miller's district, we can find it. > >Dan Pierce > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John E. Mellick > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:43 PM > Subject: Re: [GAHALL] 1820 Census Oliver Miller district??? > > > Dear MFLP, > > Thanks for your reply, that Hall Co was formed in 1818 from the Cherokee > cessions of 1817 & 1819, per your reference of the American Local History > Network. And thanks for pointing out ALHN, I didn't know about it. > > But the Hall Co USGenWeb page states that Hall Co was cut out of Franklin > and Jackson counties. Why the difference? > > Also on the Hall Co site, were three maps contributed by Dan Pierce, > showing Land Districts, Land Lots, and Militia Districts. But none showed > the Oliver Miller District (as in the 1820 census). I wonder where it was? > > Thanks again, > > John > > At 01:50 PM 5/10/02 -0400, you wrote: > >In a message dated 5/10/02 1:38:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > >[email protected] writes: > > > ><< What county was it in before 1818? >> > >Hall was formed 1818 Cherokee cessions of July 8, 1817 > >and Feb. 27, 1819 from Cherokee Lands > >see http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaalhn/counties.html > > ==== GAHALL Mailing List ==== Visit the Hall County GAGenWeb Page http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahall/