This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: cox Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/4c.2ADE/991.1 Message Board Post: I am looking for Infomation on Samuel Cox B: S.C in 1813 living in Hall Co , son joseph William born in 1835 Hall Co, so they were there at about the same time as John Cox and I am wondering if they were kin?They later moved to Gwinnett Co. and were living next door to each other. Anyone with a connection to these Cox 's ,would love to share Info with them.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rogers, Reid, Kinzey, Jarrard, Yancey Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/4c.2ADE/1663.1 Message Board Post: I have a lot of Rogers from Towns Co, who later moved to other areas of GA. I also have a Jarrard family from White/Habersham.

Addendum to the recent discussion about who had jurisdiction over the land currently in Hall County prior to the creation of the county. The Franklin County USGENWEB page http://www.rootsweb.com/~gafrankl/ has an outline map of original Franklin County (1784) overlaid on a map of current counties (except that SC is shown as one block, no individual counties). On this map you can see a substantial portion of Hall lies within this outline. Joe Harrington

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rogers, Hughes, Bennett Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/4c.2ADE/1663 Message Board Post: My great-grandmother was Sarah Alesa Rogers, daughter of Dr. James Thomas Rogers and Mary Luvina Jarrard of Habersham County. I have a photo taken of Sarah at age 16, by Early Rogers in Gainesville, Ga. Interested in contacting others that have any information on the Rogers in Hall County and surrounding areas. Valerie

Hoax Encyclopedia Hoax Name: JDBGMGR.EXE Hoax Description: JDBGMGR.EXE is the Microsoft Debugger Registrar for Java. It uses an icon of a bear. The contents of the hoax message vary, but it advises Hotmail users of an email virus, jdbgmgr.exe, that is spreading via MSN Messenger. This message is a hoax, and Trend Micro advises users to not forward it. See Trend Micro's Website at: http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/hoaxes/hoax5.asp?HName=JDBGMGR%2EEXE+Hoax ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Carver's Daughter" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 09:37 PM Subject: Re: [GAHALL] re: virus warning--take note > What you deleted is part of the windows system and > NEEDS to be there. Please, no one else delete it!! > Carol > > --- Helen Anderson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Dear Friends and Relatives: > > I found this attached to my system folder. I > > followed instructions and > > got rid of it--I hope!!! A kind Ward relative > > alerted me, and I > > appreciate it, Donna. > > > > :Helen Ward Anderson > > > > Subject: > > virus warning > > Date: > > Fri, 10 May 2002 09:50:39 -0500 > > From: > > [email protected] > > To: > > [email protected], > > [email protected], > > [email protected], > > n/[email protected], > > [email protected], > > [email protected], > > [email protected], [email protected], > > [email protected], [email protected], > > [email protected], [email protected], > > [email protected], [email protected], > > [email protected], > > > > > > > > > > IMPORTANT: I just got this message today and > > checked and > > I did have the > > virus, so make sure to see if you have it and then > > follow > > instructions to > > delete it below. My address book had abeen infected > > by a > > virus and likely > > has passed it on to yours... even without opening > > attachmetns... just by > > being in my address book. > > The firuse called jdbgmgr.exe is not detected by > > Norton or > > McAfee anti-virus systems. The virus sits quietly > > for 14 days before > > damaging the system. It is sent automatically by the > > messenger and by > > the address > > book whether or not you sent emails to your > > contacts. I have checked, > > found it, and > > deleted it. > > > > Here is how to check for the virus and how to get > > rid of it. > > > > DO THIS: > > 1. go to Start; Find or Search option > > 2. In the files/folder option write the name > > jdbgmgr.exe > > DO NOT OPEN IT. > > 3. Be sure you search your C; drive > > 4. Click "find now" > > 5. The virus has a teddy bear icon with the name > > jdbgmgr.exe DO NOT OPEN IT > > 6. Right click and delete it. It will then go to > > the > > recycle bin. > > 7. Go to the recylce bin, and delete it there as > > well. > > IF YOU FIND THE VIRUS, YOU MUST CONTACT ALL THE > > PEOPLE IN > > YDOUR ADDRESS BOOK. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GAHALL Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Hall County GAGenWeb Page > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahall/ > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com > > > ==== GAHALL Mailing List ==== > Visit the Hall County GAGenWeb Page > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahall/ >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HALL Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4c.2ADE/1662 Message Board Post: In 1750, when Durham HALL, then Mayor, as well as an Alderman of Norfolk County, VA., made his will he owned 300 acres of land in "Brunswick County, VA". Durham must have died in December of that year since his Will was presented and "proved" in the first court of January 18, 1751. His Will did not describe this property other than as being in Brunswick County and containing 300 acres. How he came into ownership of this property remains a mystery. Col. Robert TUCKER and Christopher PERKINS (two of the three Executors named in the Will, the other being a brother, William HALL) advertised the auction sale of this land (by then described as BEING IN LUNENBURG COUNTY) to take place in Williamsburg of 1751. The actual transcription follows "All persons who have any Claim against the Estate of Mr. Durham HALL, late of the Borough of Norfolk, deceased, are forthwith desired to send in their Accounts, properly attested to his Executors, Robert Tucker and Christopher Perkins, of the said Borough: and those that are indebted to the said Estate, are desired by them, to make speedy Payment. Attendance will be given, at Williamsburg, during the General Court. A Tract of Land, about 300 Acres, lying in Lunenburg County, belonging to the said Estate will be sold at public Sale, on Wednesday the 24th Instant, at Ms. Henry Wesberburn's Door, in Williamsburg, where the particular Bounds, (illegible)., of the said Land will then be produced. Also, to be freighted upon moderate Terms, to any of the West India Islands, or elsewhere, the Sloop Harry, belonging to the said Estate, now lying at Norfolk, ready to proceed upon any Voyage that may offer. Robert Tucker Christopher Perkins Executors." The outcome of that sale is not known and the add in the Virginia Gazette stated that the "Meets & Bounds" description would be given before the sale. Thanks to the timing of his death I do not know where this land actually sat. IT may have been in areas much west of present day Lunenburg, or south. He may have acquired this land from through the death of his own, as yet, nameless parents. The size of this tract seems small by the standard of the date. Durham HALL's residence was the "Borough of Norfolk", then the county seat. This very location implies that he was not from Pennsylvania or another colony. He more likely came from Gloucester County or from another shipping area such as Bermuda or Barbados. (The name Leonard Durham HALL does appear in Bermuda later in the century.) The name Robert HALL (not rare) appears regularly in my family and was prominant in Gloucester County, VA. A hint of Durham's status can be extracted from the will which follows. Abstract of Durham HALL's will dated November 14, 1750 from Brief Abstracts of Norfolk County Wills 1710 - 1753, by Charles McIntosh (Book I p. 179, dated Nov. 4, 1750, Proved Jan. 18, 1751) DURHAM HALL of the Borough of Norfolk in the Colony of Virginia Merchant ..... ..... first it is my Will & Desire that the Sloop Molly whereof John Ingram is at present Master, and whereof I am two third Part Owner, as soon as possible after her Arrival here may again be fitted out for the West Indies on freight if possible............It is my Will & Desire that the Sloop Harry whereof John Loyall is at present Master, and whereof I am five twelths Parts Owner.............the Briggantine William lately launched of which I am to hold three Eight parts my Brother William Hall & Capt. James Dickenson to hold the remaining.... ...fitted.... Voyage to Madiera........ to my dearly beloved Wife Jane Hall all my household Furniture ...... to bring up my Children, William, Henry, Durham and Daniel ..... as they come to age.......... appoint my said beloved Wife Jane Hall, my Dearly beloved Brother William Hall my Friends Col. Robert Tucker & Christopher Perkins Executors.......... Witnesses: James Dickenson Archibald Campbell Elizabeth Campbell Durham Hall & Seal Memorandum............Desire that a Tract of Land whc I hold in Brunswick County may be sold by my Exrs likewise a Lott or half of a Lott of Land morgaged(sic) to me by Edwd Hainly may be sold in a like manner. Witnesses: Archibald Campbell Thomas Dickenson her Mary + Hickman mark Durham Hall & Seal There is another known will in Norfolk County that may give insight to the HALL family connections and origins.. There is another will dated Nov. 9, 1722 & Proved Dec. 21, 1722 for "a" Robert Tucker who may be the father of Col. Robt. Tucker above that mentions a parcel of land "in ye possession of Mr. Robt. Hall of the County of Prince George." This suggesta a connection with the two Hall families through the Tuckers of Norfolk County, VA. This Robert Tucker also owned a number of trading vessels. Problems surface with the above since in 1722 Prince George County comprised virtually all of the counties named above plus Dinwiddie and several/many others. Sons named in Durham HALL's Will: William, Henry Durham & Daniel In that order, no daughters were mentioned. Norfolk County, VA HALLs EARLY HALLs in Lower Norfolk County taken from the W&M Quarterly, Vol 25, no.1 July 1916, pp. 36-40 "Ages of Lower Norfolk County People" by Charles F. McINTOSH William HALL age 26 in 1657 Edward HALL age 56 in 1658 Thomas HALL age 45 in 1659 From Brunswick County, VA from "Marriage Bonds & Ministers Returns of Brunswick County, 1750-1810 p. 36 Dison (or Dickson) HALL & Ann Hunt, Sur. Tho. Rivers, Wit. Wingfield Mason, Jan 5, 1775 p. 37 Durham HALL & Francis HICKS, Ward of Robt. HICKS, Sur. Lewis HICKS, Wit Wm. Jones Nov. 23, 1778 p. 37 Edward HALL & Elizabeth KELLY, 21, Sur. Wyatt NANNY, Lic Nov. 22, 1802, Mg. Dt. Dec. 1, 1802 p. 21 Thomas COTTON & Sarah HALL, 21, Sur. Geo. JOHNSON March 26, 1793 p. 16 Martha HALL(widow of James) m. Wm. CAUDLE, Sur. John HARDAWAY, Nov. 6, 1784 p. 3 Churchill ANDERSON m. Rebecca HALL, (Dau of Patrick HALL) Sur. Tho. CAMP, Wit. Sally CAMP. April 7, 1779 p. 44 Paschal HICKS m. Lucy HALL, Sur. James HARRISON, Lic. Apr. 27, 1807, mg. Apr. 29, 1807 p. 101 James WARSDEN & Lucy HALL, Sur. Briggs GOODRICH, Jan. 27, 1784 from "Marriages of Greenville County Virginia 1781 -1825" by Catherine L. Knorr 1787, May 24, Isaac GWALTNEY & Mary COTTON, Sur Wm. ANDREWS, Md. by Rev. Wm. ANDREWS, Methodist, p. 10 1823, Dec. 13, Clement HALL & Sarah P. HARWELL, Sur. Lawrence G. HEATH, Rev. James E. MORRIS, p. 92 1797, Apr. 13, Hugh HALL & Amy G. TYUS, Joshua LUNDY, grdn. of Amy consents & Sur., Rev. Wm. ANDREWS, Methodist. p. 37 1820, Dec. 9, James HALL & Nancy TEWELL(?), Sur. Crawley HOUSE, p. 86 1784, Oct. 15, John HALL & Elizabeth DUPREE, dau of Jacob DUPREE who consents, Sur. John BROWN, Jr., Wit. Amy DUPREE. p. 30 1802, Oct. 1, John HALL & Elizabeth JORDAN, Sur. Wylie PEEBLES, Wit. Sealey & Benjamin PEEBLES. Md. Nov 4 by Rev. James McKENDREE. p. 50 1799, May 4, Richard HALL & Martha HOWSE, consent of mother, Lucy HOWSE, Sur. Robert HALL, Wit. Elizabeth HOBBS. Md. May 9 by Rev. Wm. ANDREWS, Methodist. p. 41 1790 Oct. 2, Willis HALL & Mary CAMP, dau of Sally CAMP who consents. Sur. Edward DELBRIDGE. Wit. S. HALL & John HALL. Returned Jan 7 1791, by Rev. William GARNER p. 21 From Franklin County, NC.. Previously Bute and from which Warren County was cut. On Nov. 16, 1778 Durham HALL"entered"(registered) 250 acres of land on the Tar River. On June 8, 1779 Martin HALL "entered" 640 Acres of land on Crooked Creek. (from BUTE County Land Grant Plats and land Deeds - Holcomb) Durham HALL has other land registered in different parts of the county and eventually got himself sued over a land deal that went bad. He was in Wake County before 1800. He served in a Wake County unit in the revolution as an officer. Durham married a HICKS in 1778 in Brunswick County, VA.On March 16, 1780 Jacob POWELL (brother-in-law of Isaac PIPPIN-the elder thru sister Martha) sold to William ANDREWS 20 acres on the north side of the Tar River. The transaction was witnessed by William HALL and Martin HALL (Bute & Franklin Co. Deeds - Holcomb) Would like to exchange information with anyone who thinks they may connect to this HALL line.

Thanks Joe, I appreciate all the help I've received from Hall Co folks. I believe I understand it now. John At 07:00 PM 5/12/02 -0400, you wrote: >As often happened with the creation of Georgia counties, the borders with >surrounding counties were changed. > >Hall County was created from the Cherokee cessions (mostly). There is a >strip along the Southeastern edge of the current county contains land that >was in the original Franklin County. This was in the Southern half of >Franklin which was cut off to form Jackson County in 1796. > >If you look at the Hall County map at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahall/hcdists.jpg the area designated "Headrights" >came from the Franklin/Jackson county area. > >It is very difficult to say that any Georgia county was "created from --- >County" and be 100% accurate. A tract of land might have been part of five >or six different counties over the years and a current county may contain >land that came from many different counties/cessions. > >Joe Harrington > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: John E. Mellick [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 7:44 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [GAHALL] 1820 Census Oliver Miller district??? > > >Dear MFLP, > >Thanks for your reply, that Hall Co was formed in 1818 from the Cherokee >cessions of 1817 & 1819, per your reference of the American Local History >Network. And thanks for pointing out ALHN, I didn't know about it. > >But the Hall Co USGenWeb page states that Hall Co was cut out of Franklin >and Jackson counties. Why the difference? > >Also on the Hall Co site, were three maps contributed by Dan Pierce, >showing Land Districts, Land Lots, and Militia Districts. But none showed >the Oliver Miller District (as in the 1820 census). I wonder where it was? > >Thanks again, > >John > >At 01:50 PM 5/10/02 -0400, you wrote: > >In a message dated 5/10/02 1:38:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > >[email protected] writes: > > > ><< What county was it in before 1818? >> > >Hall was formed 1818 Cherokee cessions of July 8, 1817 > >and Feb. 27, 1819 from Cherokee Lands > >see http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaalhn/counties.html > > > > > >==== GAHALL Mailing List ==== > >Visit the Hall County GAGenWeb Page > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahall/ > > >==== GAHALL Mailing List ==== >Visit the Hall County GAGenWeb Page >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahall/ > > >==== GAHALL Mailing List ==== >Visit the Hall County GAGenWeb Page >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahall/

John, On the 1820 Hall Co. census, the name of the district that John Martin resides in is Capt. Elias Miller's District (not Oliver MIller). If you look about eight names above John Martin, you will see Elias Miller. The number at the bottom is not the GMD number, but rather the total number of persons in the district. There are no GMD numbers on this census. I'm not familiar with the names in Miller's District, so I can't make a guess at which GMD this is. I'm not sure of any records that might help determine the GMD for this district. Your best bet will be the deed records. Even if he didn't own land, you can look up one of his neighbors. Dan Pierce ----- Original Message ----- From: John E. Mellick To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [GAHALL] 1820 Census Oliver Miller district??? Hi Dan, Thanks for the info that you gave me about the origination of Hall Co. I believe you have totally cleared up the matter. (I feel that the amount of land given by Jackson & Franklin counties was probably a small percentage with respect to the amount from the Indian Lands.) My original query stated that I was interested in the John Martin family found in the 1820 census of Hall Co in the Oliver Miller District, Dist #615 ( I didn't include the Dist# in my original query). I looked at your maps at http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahall/hcmili.jpg but didn't see that number shown. I found the Martin family listing on the Hall Co site at http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahall/cenlook.htm (click way down to the Martins). Thanks again for straightening out the Hall Co originations, and can you locate Dist #615? John At 09:53 AM 5/11/02 -0700, you wrote: >John, > >Some sources state that Hall was created in 1818 out of Cherokee Lands, >Jackson County and Franklin County. As Donna pointed out, the infomation >on the Secretary of State's website says that Hall was formed by Act of >"December 15, 1818 and December 19, 1818" from "Cherokee cessions of July >8, 1817 and Feb. 27, 1819 - an original county." > >The opening paragraph from "The Families of Hall County, 1817-1849" by >Robert S. Davis, Jr., 1991 Magnolia Press, gives the following information: > >"Hall County was created from Cherokee Indian lands by Act of Decemter 15, >1818. Four days later another act gave the couty land from Jackson and >Franklin Counties to form what is today southeast Hall County. The rest >of the county, the area taken directly from the Cherokee Indians, was >divided into land lots and given to fortunate Georgians through the 1820 >land lottery." > >..."In addition to the above, Hall County was given addtional Cherokee >Indian lands adjoining Habersham and Rabun Counties by Act of December 21, >1819." > > >Apparently the Cherokee Lands were ceded July 8, 1817, then Hall County >was formed from these lands on December 15, 1818. So technically, Hall >County was originally formed only from Cherokee Lands. However, four days >later, parts of Jackson County and Franklin County were given to Hall >County, so effectively, Hall was formed in 1818 from Cherokee Lands, >Jackson County and Franklin County. More land was ceded by the Cherokee >on February 27, 1819 and given to Hall County on December 21, 1819. > >I don't have a copy of your original question, so I'm not sure exactly >what you wanted to know, but I don't know anything about the Oliver Miller >District. Are you saying that this district is listed on the 1820 census >of Hall County? The districts shown on the map on the Hall Co. website >are more recent district names. The names changed over time, but the GMD >district numbers remained the same. If you know the GMD number for Oliver >Miller's district, we can find it. > >Dan Pierce > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John E. Mellick > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:43 PM > Subject: Re: [GAHALL] 1820 Census Oliver Miller district??? > > > Dear MFLP, > > Thanks for your reply, that Hall Co was formed in 1818 from the Cherokee > cessions of 1817 & 1819, per your reference of the American Local History > Network. And thanks for pointing out ALHN, I didn't know about it. > > But the Hall Co USGenWeb page states that Hall Co was cut out of Franklin > and Jackson counties. Why the difference? > > Also on the Hall Co site, were three maps contributed by Dan Pierce, > showing Land Districts, Land Lots, and Militia Districts. But none showed > the Oliver Miller District (as in the 1820 census). I wonder where it was? > > Thanks again, > > John > > At 01:50 PM 5/10/02 -0400, you wrote: > >In a message dated 5/10/02 1:38:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > >[email protected] writes: > > > ><< What county was it in before 1818? >> > >Hall was formed 1818 Cherokee cessions of July 8, 1817 > >and Feb. 27, 1819 from Cherokee Lands > >see http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaalhn/counties.html > > ==== GAHALL Mailing List ==== Visit the Hall County GAGenWeb Page http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahall/

As often happened with the creation of Georgia counties, the borders with surrounding counties were changed. Hall County was created from the Cherokee cessions (mostly). There is a strip along the Southeastern edge of the current county contains land that was in the original Franklin County. This was in the Southern half of Franklin which was cut off to form Jackson County in 1796. If you look at the Hall County map at http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahall/hcdists.jpg the area designated "Headrights" came from the Franklin/Jackson county area. It is very difficult to say that any Georgia county was "created from --- County" and be 100% accurate. A tract of land might have been part of five or six different counties over the years and a current county may contain land that came from many different counties/cessions. Joe Harrington -----Original Message----- From: John E. Mellick [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 7:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GAHALL] 1820 Census Oliver Miller district??? Dear MFLP, Thanks for your reply, that Hall Co was formed in 1818 from the Cherokee cessions of 1817 & 1819, per your reference of the American Local History Network. And thanks for pointing out ALHN, I didn't know about it. But the Hall Co USGenWeb page states that Hall Co was cut out of Franklin and Jackson counties. Why the difference? Also on the Hall Co site, were three maps contributed by Dan Pierce, showing Land Districts, Land Lots, and Militia Districts. But none showed the Oliver Miller District (as in the 1820 census). I wonder where it was? Thanks again, John At 01:50 PM 5/10/02 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 5/10/02 1:38:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >[email protected] writes: > ><< What county was it in before 1818? >> >Hall was formed 1818 Cherokee cessions of July 8, 1817 >and Feb. 27, 1819 from Cherokee Lands >see http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaalhn/counties.html > > >==== GAHALL Mailing List ==== >Visit the Hall County GAGenWeb Page >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahall/ ==== GAHALL Mailing List ==== Visit the Hall County GAGenWeb Page http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahall/

Hi Dan, Thanks for the info that you gave me about the origination of Hall Co. I believe you have totally cleared up the matter. (I feel that the amount of land given by Jackson & Franklin counties was probably a small percentage with respect to the amount from the Indian Lands.) My original query stated that I was interested in the John Martin family found in the 1820 census of Hall Co in the Oliver Miller District, Dist #615 ( I didn't include the Dist# in my original query). I looked at your maps at http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahall/hcmili.jpg but didn't see that number shown. I found the Martin family listing on the Hall Co site at http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahall/cenlook.htm (click way down to the Martins). Thanks again for straightening out the Hall Co originations, and can you locate Dist #615? John At 09:53 AM 5/11/02 -0700, you wrote: >John, > >Some sources state that Hall was created in 1818 out of Cherokee Lands, >Jackson County and Franklin County. As Donna pointed out, the infomation >on the Secretary of State's website says that Hall was formed by Act of >"December 15, 1818 and December 19, 1818" from "Cherokee cessions of July >8, 1817 and Feb. 27, 1819 - an original county." > >The opening paragraph from "The Families of Hall County, 1817-1849" by >Robert S. Davis, Jr., 1991 Magnolia Press, gives the following information: > >"Hall County was created from Cherokee Indian lands by Act of Decemter 15, >1818. Four days later another act gave the couty land from Jackson and >Franklin Counties to form what is today southeast Hall County. The rest >of the county, the area taken directly from the Cherokee Indians, was >divided into land lots and given to fortunate Georgians through the 1820 >land lottery." > >..."In addition to the above, Hall County was given addtional Cherokee >Indian lands adjoining Habersham and Rabun Counties by Act of December 21, >1819." > > >Apparently the Cherokee Lands were ceded July 8, 1817, then Hall County >was formed from these lands on December 15, 1818. So technically, Hall >County was originally formed only from Cherokee Lands. However, four days >later, parts of Jackson County and Franklin County were given to Hall >County, so effectively, Hall was formed in 1818 from Cherokee Lands, >Jackson County and Franklin County. More land was ceded by the Cherokee >on February 27, 1819 and given to Hall County on December 21, 1819. > >I don't have a copy of your original question, so I'm not sure exactly >what you wanted to know, but I don't know anything about the Oliver Miller >District. Are you saying that this district is listed on the 1820 census >of Hall County? The districts shown on the map on the Hall Co. website >are more recent district names. The names changed over time, but the GMD >district numbers remained the same. If you know the GMD number for Oliver >Miller's district, we can find it. > >Dan Pierce > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John E. Mellick > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:43 PM > Subject: Re: [GAHALL] 1820 Census Oliver Miller district??? > > > Dear MFLP, > > Thanks for your reply, that Hall Co was formed in 1818 from the Cherokee > cessions of 1817 & 1819, per your reference of the American Local History > Network. And thanks for pointing out ALHN, I didn't know about it. > > But the Hall Co USGenWeb page states that Hall Co was cut out of Franklin > and Jackson counties. Why the difference? > > Also on the Hall Co site, were three maps contributed by Dan Pierce, > showing Land Districts, Land Lots, and Militia Districts. But none showed > the Oliver Miller District (as in the 1820 census). I wonder where it was? > > Thanks again, > > John > > At 01:50 PM 5/10/02 -0400, you wrote: > >In a message dated 5/10/02 1:38:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > >[email protected] writes: > > > ><< What county was it in before 1818? >> > >Hall was formed 1818 Cherokee cessions of July 8, 1817 > >and Feb. 27, 1819 from Cherokee Lands > >see http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaalhn/counties.html > >

I recently discovered that there is a 1824 census for Gwinnett Co. Does anyone know if there is a 1824 census for Hall Co? Thank you. Eldon mailto:[email protected] Researching: WADE and HAMES - SC, GA, AL

In a message dated 5/10/02 8:20:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << If indeed it was Indian lands, are you aware of where marriage records might be, maybe 1805-1815? >> People moved in as they opened new territory. However if you go to http://www.cviog.uga.edu/Projects/gainfo/coundate.htm which gives the counties in order of creation, you can see that by doing away with any formed after 1818, you can narrow the search down from 159 counties to 39. Go to this page and watch the animation map a couple of times. http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~stephan/Animation/us.gif Then go to this 1822 map and compare the counties shown surrounding Hall with those on your list of 39 if you don't think they moved very far. http://www.cviog.uga.edu/Projects/gainfo/histcountymaps/ga1822map.htm Hall was given away in the Third or 1820 Land Lottery. See this page http://www.sos.state.ga.us/archives/rs/1820.htm Sources for the winners are given at the bottom of the page. If John Martin bought land in Hall instead of drawing it, the deed might say John Martin of ???? County. So the earliest deed book would be a place to check. Does anyone remember if Sybil McRay transcribed that first one? "From the Library Page: Access to the local history and genealogy collection is restricted to staff until building renovations are completed in May. Hope this helps you make a start. http://www.rootsweb.com/~gajackso/1809taxdigest.htm There is a Martin Jonathan 19 on the 1809 Jackson Cunty Tax List Donna

John, Some sources state that Hall was created in 1818 out of Cherokee Lands, Jackson County and Franklin County. As Donna pointed out, the infomation on the Secretary of State's website says that Hall was formed by Act of "December 15, 1818 and December 19, 1818" from "Cherokee cessions of July 8, 1817 and Feb. 27, 1819 - an original county." The opening paragraph from "The Families of Hall County, 1817-1849" by Robert S. Davis, Jr., 1991 Magnolia Press, gives the following information: "Hall County was created from Cherokee Indian lands by Act of Decemter 15, 1818. Four days later another act gave the couty land from Jackson and Franklin Counties to form what is today southeast Hall County. The rest of the county, the area taken directly from the Cherokee Indians, was divided into land lots and given to fortunate Georgians through the 1820 land lottery." ..."In addition to the above, Hall County was given addtional Cherokee Indian lands adjoining Habersham and Rabun Counties by Act of December 21, 1819." Apparently the Cherokee Lands were ceded July 8, 1817, then Hall County was formed from these lands on December 15, 1818. So technically, Hall County was originally formed only from Cherokee Lands. However, four days later, parts of Jackson County and Franklin County were given to Hall County, so effectively, Hall was formed in 1818 from Cherokee Lands, Jackson County and Franklin County. More land was ceded by the Cherokee on February 27, 1819 and given to Hall County on December 21, 1819. I don't have a copy of your original question, so I'm not sure exactly what you wanted to know, but I don't know anything about the Oliver Miller District. Are you saying that this district is listed on the 1820 census of Hall County? The districts shown on the map on the Hall Co. website are more recent district names. The names changed over time, but the GMD district numbers remained the same. If you know the GMD number for Oliver Miller's district, we can find it. Dan Pierce ----- Original Message ----- From: John E. Mellick To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [GAHALL] 1820 Census Oliver Miller district??? Dear MFLP, Thanks for your reply, that Hall Co was formed in 1818 from the Cherokee cessions of 1817 & 1819, per your reference of the American Local History Network. And thanks for pointing out ALHN, I didn't know about it. But the Hall Co USGenWeb page states that Hall Co was cut out of Franklin and Jackson counties. Why the difference? Also on the Hall Co site, were three maps contributed by Dan Pierce, showing Land Districts, Land Lots, and Militia Districts. But none showed the Oliver Miller District (as in the 1820 census). I wonder where it was? Thanks again, John At 01:50 PM 5/10/02 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 5/10/02 1:38:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >[email protected] writes: > ><< What county was it in before 1818? >> >Hall was formed 1818 Cherokee cessions of July 8, 1817 >and Feb. 27, 1819 from Cherokee Lands >see http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaalhn/counties.html > > >==== GAHALL Mailing List ==== >Visit the Hall County GAGenWeb Page >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahall/ ==== GAHALL Mailing List ==== Visit the Hall County GAGenWeb Page http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahall/

List Subscribers, This mailing list is not the place to be discussing viruses or hoaxes. Please do not send warnings of viruses to this mailing list. If you believe you have received a virus that appears to have come from this mailing list, or it appears that subscribers to this list are sending viruses, then please contact me directly. If there is a need to warn subscribers, then I will make that decision. Whenever you receive a warning of a virus, or think you have been sent a virus, you should always check the antivirus websites to verify it before passing along any warning to others that you correspond with. A good place to check is the Symantec website: http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/vinfodb.html/ In the case of this recent warning, it tells you to delete the file jdbgmgr.exe If you go to the above website and search for that filename, you will find that it is described as a hoax. Dan Pierce Hall County Mailing List Administrator

In a message dated 5/10/2002 9:38:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > What you deleted is part of the windows system and > NEEDS to be there. Please, no one else delete it!! > Carol If you will go to the Norton web site they will tell you all about this hoax! I NEVERl pass these things along until I look on that web site to see if it is a REAL virus first no matter how authentic it looks. Sherrie

In a message dated 5/10/02 7:43:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << But the Hall Co USGenWeb page states that Hall Co was cut out of Franklin and Jackson counties. Why the difference? >> The difference is that I just left up what had been up. From http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/table.htm I trust the Secretary of State's page more since it cites the law dates. Hall County is not my area of expertise - Forsyth is. If there is someone who would like to adopt Hall and writes html please contact me. Or someone who is very familiar with Hall County who would like to assist by sending material or proofing what is up, please vounteer. Donna

Dear MFLP, Thanks for your reply, that Hall Co was formed in 1818 from the Cherokee cessions of 1817 & 1819, per your reference of the American Local History Network. And thanks for pointing out ALHN, I didn't know about it. But the Hall Co USGenWeb page states that Hall Co was cut out of Franklin and Jackson counties. Why the difference? Also on the Hall Co site, were three maps contributed by Dan Pierce, showing Land Districts, Land Lots, and Militia Districts. But none showed the Oliver Miller District (as in the 1820 census). I wonder where it was? Thanks again, John At 01:50 PM 5/10/02 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 5/10/02 1:38:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >[email protected] writes: > ><< What county was it in before 1818? >> >Hall was formed 1818 Cherokee cessions of July 8, 1817 >and Feb. 27, 1819 from Cherokee Lands >see http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaalhn/counties.html > > >==== GAHALL Mailing List ==== >Visit the Hall County GAGenWeb Page >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahall/

Dear Friends and Relatives: I found this attached to my system folder. I followed instructions and got rid of it--I hope!!! A kind Ward relative alerted me, and I appreciate it, Donna. :Helen Ward Anderson Subject: virus warning Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 09:50:39 -0500 From: [email protected] To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], n/[email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], IMPORTANT: I just got this message today and checked and I did have the virus, so make sure to see if you have it and then follow instructions to delete it below. My address book had abeen infected by a virus and likely has passed it on to yours... even without opening attachmetns... just by being in my address book. The firuse called jdbgmgr.exe is not detected by Norton or McAfee anti-virus systems. The virus sits quietly for 14 days before damaging the system. It is sent automatically by the messenger and by the address book whether or not you sent emails to your contacts. I have checked, found it, and deleted it. Here is how to check for the virus and how to get rid of it. DO THIS: 1. go to Start; Find or Search option 2. In the files/folder option write the name jdbgmgr.exe DO NOT OPEN IT. 3. Be sure you search your C; drive 4. Click "find now" 5. The virus has a teddy bear icon with the name jdbgmgr.exe DO NOT OPEN IT 6. Right click and delete it. It will then go to the recycle bin. 7. Go to the recylce bin, and delete it there as well. IF YOU FIND THE VIRUS, YOU MUST CONTACT ALL THE PEOPLE IN YDOUR ADDRESS BOOK.

What you deleted is part of the windows system and NEEDS to be there. Please, no one else delete it!! Carol --- Helen Anderson <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Friends and Relatives: > I found this attached to my system folder. I > followed instructions and > got rid of it--I hope!!! A kind Ward relative > alerted me, and I > appreciate it, Donna. > > :Helen Ward Anderson > > Subject: > virus warning > Date: > Fri, 10 May 2002 09:50:39 -0500 > From: > [email protected] > To: > [email protected], > [email protected], > [email protected], > n/[email protected], > [email protected], > [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], > > > > > IMPORTANT: I just got this message today and > checked and > I did have the > virus, so make sure to see if you have it and then > follow > instructions to > delete it below. My address book had abeen infected > by a > virus and likely > has passed it on to yours... even without opening > attachmetns... just by > being in my address book. > The firuse called jdbgmgr.exe is not detected by > Norton or > McAfee anti-virus systems. The virus sits quietly > for 14 days before > damaging the system. It is sent automatically by the > messenger and by > the address > book whether or not you sent emails to your > contacts. I have checked, > found it, and > deleted it. > > Here is how to check for the virus and how to get > rid of it. > > DO THIS: > 1. go to Start; Find or Search option > 2. In the files/folder option write the name > jdbgmgr.exe > DO NOT OPEN IT. > 3. Be sure you search your C; drive > 4. Click "find now" > 5. The virus has a teddy bear icon with the name > jdbgmgr.exe DO NOT OPEN IT > 6. Right click and delete it. It will then go to > the > recycle bin. > 7. Go to the recylce bin, and delete it there as > well. > IF YOU FIND THE VIRUS, YOU MUST CONTACT ALL THE > PEOPLE IN > YDOUR ADDRESS BOOK. > > > > > > ==== GAHALL Mailing List ==== > Visit the Hall County GAGenWeb Page > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahall/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com

In a message dated 5/10/02 1:38:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << What county was it in before 1818? >> Hall was formed 1818 Cherokee cessions of July 8, 1817 and Feb. 27, 1819 from Cherokee Lands see http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaalhn/counties.html