Sandra and Debra, I am forwarding on your email addresses to the CAGLE list on Rootsweb. I think that yal will gain a wealth of info from this list. Please, post your info on the Cagle list. Hopefully, someone can help you out. Good Luck and Happy Hunting, Neda in VA- a Cagle descendant also.

Early Rogers was my gggfather's brother. He had a photo shop in Gainesville and took numerous pictures of family members. We have some that we do not know who they are, one in a Conf uniform holding a medal. The attached is your family as I have them. We have been trying to figure out if Philo is female or male. The spouse name didn't help much. Maybe you could clarify this. I would also appreciate any comments or corrections you may have. If you want or need further information, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thanks Sue Descendants of James Thomas ROGERS 1 James Thomas ROGERS b: 10 November 1830 d: 30 March 1910 Burial: Trinity Meth Church, Hall Co. Ga. . +Mary Luvina JARRARD b: 11 July 1831 in Habersham Co., Ga d: 17 March 1894 in Hall Co., Ga m: 06 March 1853 Burial: Alta Vista Cem., Gainesville, Ga ........ 2 Sallie ROGERS ............ +John B. HUGHES ................... 3 Horace HUGHES ................... 3 Robert HUGHES ................... 3 Fred HUGHES ........ 2 Philo ROGERS ............ +L. F. WINTER ................... 3 Alberta WINTER ................... 3 Rogers WINTER ................... 3 Marion WINTER ........ 2 Louella ROGERS ............ +Henry BAKER ................... 3 Robert BAKER ................... 3 Fletcher BAKER ................... 3 Lee BAKER ....................... +Johnny WHITMIRE ........ 2 Lena ROGERS ........ 2 Robert Baxter ROGERS ............ +Lou Rainey QUILLIAN Father: Wiley H. QUILLIAN Mother: Lou Rainey MEADERS Mother: Lou Rainey MEADERS Father: Wiley H. QUILLIAN ................... 3 Robert Lee ROGERS b: 02 March 1892 in Hall Ga d: 15 March 1924 ....................... +Annie Ruth CARTER m: 15 March 1924 ........ 2 Benson Atticus ROGERS b: 01 September 1869 in Hall Co., Ga. d: 14 July 1941 in Gainesville, Hall Co. Ga Burial: Alta Vista Cemetery, Hall Co., Georgia ............ +Mary Eizabeth QUILLIAN b: 21 December 1873 d: 18 February 1947 Father: Wiley H. QUILLIAN Mother: Lou Rainey MEADERS Mother: Lou Rainey MEADERS Father: Wiley H. QUILLIAN ................... 3 Rosalie ROGERS b: 27 July 1896 in Malone, Texas d: 04 January 1959 in Crawford Long Hosp, Atla ................... 3 Sarah Jane ROGERS b: 09 March 1902 in Hall Co., Ga. d: 02 August 1925 ....................... +Harry Irby JACKSON m: 02 August 1925 in Atlanta, Ga ................... 3 Robert Benson ROGERS b: 11 November 1904 in Hall Co., Ga. d: 18 May 1906 in Hall Co., Ga. ................... 3 James Thomas ROGERS b: 07 October 1907 in Gainesville, Ga, Hall d: in Greenwood, S.C. ....................... +Mirriam Lee MCKINNEY ........ 2 Jackson Nolley ROGERS b: 05 May 1871 in Hall Co., Polksville Dst, GA ............ +Emma Jane HULSEY b: 19 August 1881 in Quillians Dist, Hall Co, GA m: 03 April 1901 Father: Thomas Newton HULSEY Mother: Mary Elizabeth Gailey Mother: Mary Elizabeth Gailey Father: Thomas Newton HULSEY ................... 3 John Stuart ROGERS b: 18 February 1902 in Chapman Farm, Hall Co, GA ................... 3 Montine ROGERS b: 27 April 1903 in Chapman Farm, Hall Co, GA d: 16 April 1957 ....................... +James Lanham Rogers, Jr. b: 22 December 1900 d: 12 April 1964 m: 16 November 1928 in Gainsville, Hall Co, Ga ................... 3 Thomas Jefferson ROGERS b: 12 January 1906 in Chapman Farm, Hall Co, GA d: October 1988 ....................... +Carrie CANADY m: 02 December 1931 in Washington, D.C. ................... 3 Mary ROGERS b: 10 August 1910 in Hall Co., Ga d: 29 November 1989 ................... 3 Robbie Lou ROGERS b: 15 February 1915 in Gainsville, Hall Co., Ga d: October 1986 ....................... +W. Doyle MCKINLEY m: 13 May 1938 in Walhallah, S.C. ................... 3 Jackson N. ROGERS b: 30 January 1918 in Gainsville, Hall Co., Ga ................... 3 William Lee ROGERS b: 27 June 1919 in Gainsville, Hall Co., Ga d: 28 December 1990 ................... 3 Edgar Hulsey ROGERS b: 09 August 1923 in Gainsville, Hall Co., Ga

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BRYANT/BRIANT, SHIELDS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4c.2ADE/827.1 Message Board Post: One of daughters of Hugh & Nancy Bryant, Elizabeth Ann, married Joel T. Nuckolls. When Nancy died, before 1850, she was bruied in Nuckolls Cemetery. Graves were moved due to Buford Dam Project in 1956. Does this sound like your family?

That's my understanding as well. I have a copy of a will in SC and it is the most beautiful handwriting. Problem is - if you you look at the will above it in the book it's the same handwriting.

Hi Dan, I should have realized that but I went brain dead trying to figure out a way to take advantage of the deed info I have. Thanks, Eldon -----Original Message----- From: TwoRun [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GAHALL] Who drafted that deed? Eldon, If you have copies of deeds from the deed books in the courthouse, then you are not looking at the actual deed. The deed is a document that is signed by the grantor, and conveyed to and retained by the grantee. The grantee (or possibly the grantor who may retain a copy) brings the deed to the courthouse to have it recorded. The Clerk copies all the information off of the deed and transcribes it into the deed book at the courthouse. So the signature and indication of a seal are normally transcriptions made by the clerk. I suppose there may be instances where all the parties are at the courthouse and the grantor actually signs the entry in the deed book, but I don't think that is the usual case. This is my understanding of it, but if anyone can offer a better explanation, please do. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: Eldon Wade To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 4:36 PM Subject: [GAHALL] Who drafted that deed? Who actually drafted deeds? Did the seller draft the deed and sign it or did a clerk draft the deed and the seller simply sign (or place his mark) as the seller? I have several deeds for Pendleton Dist SC for the 1790s and two deeds for Hall Co GA in 1825 and it appears to my untrained eye that the handwriting that drafted the body of the deed(s) is the same handwriting of the seller's signature. I would have expected this when the seller signed with a mark but in these cases the seller actually signed with a signature. Thank you, Eldon mailto:[email protected] Researching: WADE and HAMES - SC, GA, AL ==== GAHALL Mailing List ==== Visit the Hall County GAGenWeb Page http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahall/ ==== GAHALL Mailing List ==== Visit the Hall County GAGenWeb Page http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahall/

Dan, Not a better explanation just a different one. Today in GA - Deeds are drawn up in several ways. Your lawyer does it (probably typed out from a computer program). You or someone you trust does it - say from a computer program. You can go to a printer or office supply house and buy a printed form and fill in the blanks. In Georgia you are required to sign before a notary with a seal and a separate witness. The deed then goes to the Clerk of Superior Court in the County where the property is lcated. It is stamped recorded. The date recorded, the Book and Page number and the amount of transfer tax collected entered into the stamp. Most Counties then photocopy the deed onto special acid free paper that is punched at the top to fit the Deed Books. Before Computers Somene typed them or filled in the forms. Before photocopy machines the Clerk's Office typed a copy which was inserted into the Deed Books. Before typewriters they were handwritten. Whoever drew the Deed wrote it out by hand.. The Clerk of Superior Court hand copied it into the deed book by hand and hand wrote his certification into the book. There were lawyers. There were law clerks. There were educated people who wrote them for other people - not necessarily because they couldn't read ot write but perhaps because they were unsure of the legal wording involved. I am sure that in really rural areas, school teachers for example may have made money on the side by drawing deeds as well as writing letters. I have a copy of a political ad from 1912 where the Clerk of Superior Court has as part of his pitch that he "never charged extra for writing out a deed for you" I have seen printed deed forms where you filled in the blanks as early as the early 1800's. Book A of Forsyth County Deeds is a large bound book with the odd pages being printed forms assigning draws in the Land Lottery. The backs of these pages were blank and the Clerk recorded Deeds on them. People do not always record deeds when they are made. If you are copying a deed book sometimes you will find 3 or 4 deeds on the same piece of property recorded one behind the other where they had just been passed on with each sale until someone decided to record them. Donna

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Butterwoth Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4c.2ADE/1497.1 Message Board Post: My husband is the gr grandson of Stephen H Butterworth the younger brother of Isaac C. Butterworth, they are the sons of Stephen Butterworth and Rachel Clements. Stephen m. Martha Patsy Carroll in Giles Co., TN about 1842. They moved to Lawrence Co., Ark. about 1851.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cagle Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4c.2ADE/1661.1.1.2.2.1 Message Board Post: Thank You, but as you can see, someone else also gave me directions. I would be happy to discuss this family with you. This is my paternal grandmother's family. E-mail me direct at [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4c.2ADE/1661.1.1.2.2 Message Board Post: I can email the directions to you. I would be most interested in any info on this family as I have researched it some myself. Thanks so much.

Who actually drafted deeds? Did the seller draft the deed and sign it or did a clerk draft the deed and the seller simply sign (or place his mark) as the seller? I have several deeds for Pendleton Dist SC for the 1790s and two deeds for Hall Co GA in 1825 and it appears to my untrained eye that the handwriting that drafted the body of the deed(s) is the same handwriting of the seller's signature. I would have expected this when the seller signed with a mark but in these cases the seller actually signed with a signature. Thank you, Eldon mailto:[email protected] Researching:  WADE and HAMES - SC, GA, AL

Eldon, If you have copies of deeds from the deed books in the courthouse, then you are not looking at the actual deed. The deed is a document that is signed by the grantor, and conveyed to and retained by the grantee. The grantee (or possibly the grantor who may retain a copy) brings the deed to the courthouse to have it recorded. The Clerk copies all the information off of the deed and transcribes it into the deed book at the courthouse. So the signature and indication of a seal are normally transcriptions made by the clerk. I suppose there may be instances where all the parties are at the courthouse and the grantor actually signs the entry in the deed book, but I don't think that is the usual case. This is my understanding of it, but if anyone can offer a better explanation, please do. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: Eldon Wade To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 4:36 PM Subject: [GAHALL] Who drafted that deed? Who actually drafted deeds? Did the seller draft the deed and sign it or did a clerk draft the deed and the seller simply sign (or place his mark) as the seller? I have several deeds for Pendleton Dist SC for the 1790s and two deeds for Hall Co GA in 1825 and it appears to my untrained eye that the handwriting that drafted the body of the deed(s) is the same handwriting of the seller's signature. I would have expected this when the seller signed with a mark but in these cases the seller actually signed with a signature. Thank you, Eldon mailto:[email protected] Researching: WADE and HAMES - SC, GA, AL ==== GAHALL Mailing List ==== Visit the Hall County GAGenWeb Page http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahall/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Baker-Hall County Georgia Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/4c.2ADE/1666 Message Board Post: Anyone know or have any info on a Milley/Millie Baker b. Jan 22, 1807 Hall Co.-d. Jan 19, 1848 Forsyth Co.? She married Ransom(n) Soloman Tedder in Hall County Dec 29, 1827. Their children included: Miller Francinay Tedder/Charity Catherine Tedder/John Wesley Tedder/Rebecca Minerva Tedder/William Henry Harrison Tedder/Cynthia Jane Tedder/Guilford Drury Hutchin Tedder/Rhoda Emmaline Tedder/Sarah Bethany Tedder and Ransom Soloman Tedder Jr. I've been unable to locate anything on the Baker family that Milley came from. Any help is greatly appreciated. Donna

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4c.2ADE/1292.1.1 Message Board Post: William Hardy Wade

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/4c.2ADE/1600.1 Message Board Post: My gr-aunt was Viola Victoria; her maiden name, Cook. She was married 1st to John T. Singleton in GA but they divorced in 1908 in Columbus, GA. She remarried, family said to a Dr., and moved out of the state? She did have a child, born abt. 1900 and I don't know name or gender. Could these Victorias be one in the same? I've searched for years to find what happened to her; supposedly she died around 1920's. Anything would be helpful.

Sandra, Will you tell us about your Cagle family? You might have already, I have not checked all my email, so please forgive me if you already have. Are you also on the CAGLE list? Neda

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4c.2ADE/1661.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Timber Ridge Baptist is located off State Highway 52 East(Toward Commerce GA) on Timber Ridge Church Road. Coming from Gainesville take Old Cornelia Highway(State 23) about 7 miles to State 52 east , turn 2nd road on right which is Timber Ridge Church RD. It is about 1/2 mile to cemetery.

Looking for any information on Edward K. Smith. He was born in 1853 in Alabama and died in Hall County, year unknown. I believe he was editor of the Meriwether Vindicator for some years. His parents were John C. Smith and Jane A.C. (Kirby) Smith, who spent their later years in Thomas County. I have no idea if Edward married or not. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Syd

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BROOM/BROOME, KENDRICK Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4c.2ADE/1665 Message Board Post: I saw an old post of yours about Daniel Broome and his family. My gg grandma was Susan Broome believed to have been born ca 1840 in S.C. She married James M. Kendrick in Hall county, Ga. and are believed to be buried at Timberridge Baptist church cemetery there. Can you tie susan to any of your family? Can you give me any help on her ancestors? Thanks. Sam

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4c.2ADE/1627.1 Message Board Post: I saw an old post of yours about Daniel Broome and his family. My gg grandma was Susan Broome believed to have been born ca 1840 in S.C. She married James M. Kendrick in Hall county, Ga. and are believed to be buried at Timberridge Baptist church cemetery there. Can you tie susan to any of your family? Can you give me any help on her ancestors? Thanks. Sam

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McKinzey Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4c.2ADE/1643.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I have very little and it's mostly reconstructed tidbits from various people. The story I "go by" is she came over from Scotland sometime during or after the Rev war. She had three sons and one of them, or his descendants, made it to Texas. She received a land grant in what was then Hall Co. Georgia. I rec'd most of this from a McKinzey in Alabama and relatives here in Texas. I'm trying to reconstruct all of my old info and get started again. I don't know what you mean by what is my link