Adrianne, Thanks for these clues to the WAITERS family. Does the book give Amanda's husband's name? Did it give any information about her husband's war service? (Civil War?) Perhaps if I order the pension papers, it will provide more information about this family. How could I obtain a copy of the full references to these Waiters in the Gwinnett county books? I'll be glad to pay someone for copying, postage, etc. Thanks again! Elaine Waiters [email protected] ---------- > From: Adrianne Hopkins <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [GAGWINNE-L] WAITERS > Date: Wednesday, August 05, 1998 3:45 AM > > In one of the books from Gwinnett county Historical Society.... > > James & Brazil WAITERS is listed as owning slaves in 1860. > > Also, Amanda WAITERS collected pension on her husband's War service. > > Also, in Vol. 2 of the History of Gwinnett it shows > > Elizabeth J. WAITER pg. 56 > > J.J. PG. 101 > W.B. PG 68 > > Who exactly are you looking for? > > Adrianne > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elaine Waiters <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Wednesday, August 05, 1998 4:19 AM > Subject: [GAGWINNE-L] Surname: WAITERS > > > >I am researching the WAITERS family who lived in Gwinnet Co. in the 1800's. > > I'd appreciate any information and would love to find a family connection. > > > >Elaine Waiters > >[email protected] > > > > > >==== GAGWINNE Mailing List ==== > >Adrianne Hopkins Listowner - [email protected] > >Gwinnett Co. Historical Society: http://www.adsd.com/ghs/ > > > > > > > ==== GAGWINNE Mailing List ==== > Adrianne Hopkins Listowner - [email protected] >

Hi Leona, The only clue I have to Tinsley is that William Amos Waiters and his wife, Mary Ann Whitaker, named their first daughter Jane Tinsley or Tinsey Waiters. (It was her middle name, but she seemed to use it most often later in life.) It is one of the few of their children's names I can't connect to Mary Ann's family. Perhaps someone in the Waiters family had that name. If I ever find a Tinsley or Tinsey connected with a Waiters, I think they will also be connected to my very ellusive William Amos Waiters. Thanks for the note. Elaine Waiters [email protected] ---------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [GAGWINNE-L] WAITERS > Date: Wednesday, August 05, 1998 9:58 AM > > Hi Jane > I just read your query on the Waiter family and I noticed you mentioned > some Tinsley's. Where were you looking for information when you found the > information on the Tinsley's? > I am researching the Tinsley family. My Tinsley's were in Murray and > Whitfield Counties in Georgia. I don't think these counties are far from > Gilmer county,Ga .My GGrandfather Leonard Nelson Tinsley was born Dec 6, 1829 > in South Carolina, he was in Murray County,Ga in the 1850 census. > Leona Tinsley Shields > > > ==== GAGWINNE Mailing List ==== > Adrianne Hopkins Listowner - [email protected] >

Thanks, Janie! I have started looking slowly look at Waters, Walters, Watrous, etc. families in GA--as varied spelling of Waiters. I'm trying to find a family in 1850 with a 10-year-old son named William Amos, or in 1860 find a 20-year-old Wiliam Amos. So far, I haven't had any luck. Thanks so much for checking Waters Gwinnett Co 1860 for me! I appreciate it. Surely, William Amos Waiters can't stay hidden forever!!! Elaine Waiters [email protected] ---------- > From: Russell Schexnayder <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [GAGWINNE-L] WAITERS > Date: Wednesday, August 05, 1998 1:13 PM > > Elaine, > You might look for WATERS instead of WAITERS as sometimes the census taker > misunderstood or thought he knew everything. Also the index transcriber of > the censuses often misread the writing. I've seen many strange things. > BTW I looked at Waters in 1860 Gwinnett census and the only William I saw > was 17, father Moses. > Janie > > > ==== GAGWINNE Mailing List ==== > Adrianne Hopkins Listowner - [email protected] > Gwinnett Co. Historical Society: http://www.adsd.com/ghs/ >

Researching Pool, Roebuck, and Clardy in Gwinnett Co. Lou Cook

In the book History of Gwinnett Vol. 1, pg 65 John MCDADE was listed as a VA militiaman in the Rev. War who collected pension in Gwinnett County. pg. 160 John MCDADE was a pensioner of 1835 & 1840 There are not listings for the MCDADE families at all. You need to check Hall & Dekalb counties also. Even though the kids lived in Gwinnett in 1850 doesn't mean grandpa didn't wonder over county lines to die. One of my husband's ancestor's went to visit in another county and died so they buried him in that county. Took a while to find grandpa but there he was. Also, call the Gwinnett Historical Society. They have a huge update and many corrections to add to the cemetery book so you might find them. If you live near one of the Federal archives, you can view these pension records for war service. Good luck! Adrianne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, August 05, 1998 11:19 PM Subject: Gwinnett Co. Ancestry >Hi Adrian >I have a number of relatives that were from Gwinnett co. John Mcdade died in >1848, I believe in GW county. At the time he was living with his daughter, >Lucinda Saxton or his son, Benjamin Franklin McDade. His wife died sometime >between 1830 and 1840. I can only assume that she would have also died in GW >also. Do you have any records of them? Their son, Benjamin Franklin McDade >may have married in GW county also. He married a woman named Rebecca Norton. >Thanks for your help. I really appreciate it. >Rose Ferguson >

Elaine, You might look for WATERS instead of WAITERS as sometimes the census taker misunderstood or thought he knew everything. Also the index transcriber of the censuses often misread the writing. I've seen many strange things. BTW I looked at Waters in 1860 Gwinnett census and the only William I saw was 17, father Moses. Janie

Martin Researcher can you please place these Martin's with a Martin Family?? My 2 Great-Grandmother was : Margaret "Elizabeth" (Martin), born about Dec 1822 GA, accordig to census data. She married 24 March 1839 Gwinnett Co. to Benjamin F. Hanie. In 1839, when Elizabeth applied for a widows pension, for Benjamin's service in the Florida-Indian War, their marriage was attested to as being performed at the above time & place by Henry Strickland of Duluth, GA. & by a Benjamin F. Martin, both stating as being present at the wedding. My Hanie family left Gwinnett before 1850 (family found in no census that year) into Forsyth Co. & onto Pickens Co. & after the civil war to Hall Co. where they settled & both died there. Any idea's? Thanks! Annette (Haney) Nichols

Hi Glenda, I don't have much on my Pruetts and i'm in the process of getting a very important death cert that will help a lot. For now, i have Lula Pruett who married Samuel Randolph Givens, Lula was born 14 Aug 1881 in Gwinnett, and died 9 Mar 1949. In the 1920s or 30s, Lula and Sam moved with some of their children to Irwin Co. GA, and eventually Ben Hill Co. GA. Mine stayed in Gwinnett. I hope this helps! Joey Baggett [email protected]

The WAITERS family is my most frustrating brick wall! I'm hoping by researching the Gwinnet County WAITERS family, I will find a lead. William Amos WAITERS was born in May 1840, in Georgia. I have not been able to find him in either the 1850 or 1860 census records. The first record found of him is at age 21, when he joined the Confederate Army as a Private in Co H, 1st Regiment Georgia Regulars in Elijay, Gilmer Co, GA. He was not from Gilmer County, and no other Waiters family lived there. He married Mary Ann Whitaker in Gilmer County and settled there after the war until moving to California in the 1890's. I have not been able to trace William Amos Waiters' birth. On all records he stated that he and his parents were born in Georgia. The only Georgia counties I have found Waiters families are Gwinnet and Franklin. I think the families are probably somehow connected to each other and to my William Amos Waiters. The name is not a common one. I'm hoping by tracing the Gwinnet and Franklin families, maybe I'll find William Amos as a child in one family. The only other clue I have is the names of his children. Most carry the names of his wife's family except for the following I can't identify; possibly they were named after someone in his family: Jane Tinsey or Tinsley , Margaret, and Martha. He only had two sons, one named after his wife's father and the other named William A. WAITERS. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Elaine Waiters [email protected]

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, August 04, 1998 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [GAGWINNE-L] My Gwinnett Surnames >Hi, >Would any of your Pruett's possibly have married a Landress in Gwinnett Co? I >have a Sarah Francis Landress that married a John Pruett. I'm assuming they >would have married in Gwinnett Co. Sarah was born March 15, 1868 in Gwinnett >Co. > >Thanks, >Glenda > > >==== GAGWINNE Mailing List ==== >Adrianne Hopkins Listowner - [email protected] > > Glenda, I see no marriages between Pruett and Landress in Gwinnett county. The only Landress marriage I see is Margaret N m John W Leach in 1882. Janie

Hi Jane I just read your query on the Waiter family and I noticed you mentioned some Tinsley's. Where were you looking for information when you found the information on the Tinsley's? I am researching the Tinsley family. My Tinsley's were in Murray and Whitfield Counties in Georgia. I don't think these counties are far from Gilmer county,Ga .My GGrandfather Leonard Nelson Tinsley was born Dec 6, 1829 in South Carolina, he was in Murray County,Ga in the 1850 census. Leona Tinsley Shields

In one of the books from Gwinnett county Historical Society.... James & Brazil WAITERS is listed as owning slaves in 1860. Also, Amanda WAITERS collected pension on her husband's War service. Also, in Vol. 2 of the History of Gwinnett it shows Elizabeth J. WAITER pg. 56 J.J. PG. 101 W.B. PG 68 Who exactly are you looking for? Adrianne -----Original Message----- From: Elaine Waiters <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, August 05, 1998 4:19 AM Subject: [GAGWINNE-L] Surname: WAITERS >I am researching the WAITERS family who lived in Gwinnet Co. in the 1800's. > I'd appreciate any information and would love to find a family connection. > >Elaine Waiters >[email protected] > > >==== GAGWINNE Mailing List ==== >Adrianne Hopkins Listowner - [email protected] >Gwinnett Co. Historical Society: http://www.adsd.com/ghs/ >

I am researching the WAITERS family who lived in Gwinnet Co. in the 1800's. I'd appreciate any information and would love to find a family connection. Elaine Waiters [email protected]

I am new to list. My name is Annette . I have been out of Genealogy for a while, but trying to get back into it. A connection would certainly help! Researching Gwinnett Co. families: Bowen, Wright, Warbington, Hanie(Haney), Williams, White, Waits among others. Thanks! Annette

Hi, My name is Lee. The names I am researching in Guinnet Co. are:Brand, Moore, Spearman, Wynne,Winn,and Bryant. Would like to correspond with anyone searching these names.

Hi, Would any of your Pruett's possibly have married a Landress in Gwinnett Co? I have a Sarah Francis Landress that married a John Pruett. I'm assuming they would have married in Gwinnett Co. Sarah was born March 15, 1868 in Gwinnett Co. Thanks, Glenda

Hi! I'm new to the list. These are my surnames in Gwinnett Co: BAGGETT, BRADFORD, MCHUGH, HUFF, TAYLOR, WILSON, GIVENS, BRAND, PRUETT, ROBINSON, BAGWELL, and HUTCHINS. I also have some more names in Walton and Hall Co. If you have any questions on my families, please contact me. Thanks! [email protected] Joey Baggett

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, July 24, 1998 1:55 PM Subject: [GAGWINNE-L] WHITLEY, George [Help! murder!] >Hello, > >Below I am sending information I have about two murders, a murder by George >WHITLEY and a murder of George WHITLEY. Does anyone have any further >information about either of these murders, and/or about George WHITLEY? Does >anyone know who these George Whitleys are? Does anyone know if both of these >George Whitleys are the same man? > >Any information will be greatly welcomed and appreciated. Thanks a lot! >LouDean > > >#1 According to The Georgia Black Book of Macabre, Morbid, Disgusting Tales >of Genealogical Value, Vol. I, page 312: Gwinnett Co., GA: Nancy E. WHITLEY >was murdered in Nov. 1868 by George WHITLEY. > > #2 John A. Adams was born September 15, 1880, died March 14, 1941, and is >buried in Norcross City Cemetery. He married Amanda Roberts. John moved to >Norcross [Georgia] where he rented a place for fifty cents (not sure how often >this was paid) and operated a blacksmith shop. The house John was raised in >is still occupied by an Adams. > >John was 5 years old when his stepfather George WHITLEY was shot and killed by >his mother. > Here's two marriages that might be helpful. (and it's all I know, only the year) 1885 G W Whitley m M C Adams 1861 G Whitley m Elizabeth Davis Have you looked at census records? I have Gwinnett county books of census records 1820-1870 and would be happy to look. Janie in Houston

Hello, Below I am sending information I have about two murders, a murder by George WHITLEY and a murder of George WHITLEY. Does anyone have any further information about either of these murders, and/or about George WHITLEY? Does anyone know who these George Whitleys are? Does anyone know if both of these George Whitleys are the same man? Any information will be greatly welcomed and appreciated. Thanks a lot! LouDean #1 According to The Georgia Black Book of Macabre, Morbid, Disgusting Tales of Genealogical Value, Vol. I, page 312: Gwinnett Co., GA: Nancy E. WHITLEY was murdered in Nov. 1868 by George WHITLEY. #2 John A. Adams was born September 15, 1880, died March 14, 1941, and is buried in Norcross City Cemetery. He married Amanda Roberts. John moved to Norcross [Georgia] where he rented a place for fifty cents (not sure how often this was paid) and operated a blacksmith shop. The house John was raised in is still occupied by an Adams. John was 5 years old when his stepfather George WHITLEY was shot and killed by his mother.

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