Thanks Maryellen for your education. My genealogical history & migration patterns are wanting. Best, Hal McCawley Maryellen wrote: > Okay folks...I am not a Whatley expert...they just float in and out of > the family..HOWEVER...I do cluster genealogy...I follow a pack of > names that intermarry and swap land and move from place to place > together. I'll do my best here to throw out as many names as possible > that might apply....I've got some folks flopping around VA previous to > 1660...I can trace a few names to Jamestown, but the whole bunch > doesn't go back that far. In 1660 folks start picking up or assigning > headrights in VA.About 1620 we are in Isle of Wight...by 1660 we are > in AccomackCo, Va. I think a goodly number were either Quakers or > argumentative as they were always in court. Accomack VA is part of the > DELMARVA Peninsula. In this time period, there was no Delaware.But > many of the old records are in today's Delaware ( or in PA or NJ who > also claimed this territory) Any people in VA who were not Church of > England were "encouraged" to leave , and did. Many ended up in > Somerset Co MD.In MD are Betts, Cannons, Newtons, Riggin, > Broughton,Boyce,Davis, Culum, Townsend,Evans, Barnes, Hosea,Grace, > Whaley, Wheatley, Cook, Atkinson, Maddox, Melson, Wood. Not all of > these people went to each spot. Some skipped a state and then caught > up later. Some kept dropping out and went no further. > > Here's the itinerary. About 1760, a large group left MD/DE.I can't yet > pin a name on why. I am leaning toward the Nicolite movement, but it > doesn't quite fit. They went to NC. They were mostly in the Granville, > Bute, Orange area ( and some surrounding areas)of NC. They were > Regulators. Some time around the Battle of Alamance..they left/were > thrown out/land confiscated/ whatever.They next show up in Old Ninety > Six district of SC.Mostly Abbeville.( A few hit TN) Here is where they > fight in the Revolution. In 1784 they pack up and head for GA where > free land was offered to Vets from anywhere...come and get it. Few > arrive in time for Wilkes Co, most get land in Greene, Washington, or > Oglethorpe Cos in GA. In 1819 Alabama is made a state and by 1820 > they're off again. The difficulty with Alabama is that very few brave > souls bought land before 1838 when the Trail of Tears got the Cherokee > and Creeks off their own land. This leaves you with 18 years to figure > what anyone was up to.1830 is the first whole census here. In 1843 > some of the generation that married in AL left for the new state of > LA. (Yes, it was a Territory, but not everyone wanted to live in a > lawless Territory)The problem here is that you don't have a reliable > census till 1850, and at first, Natchitoches was THE Parish and many > records stayed there though the Parish was broken up and they are in > any of three languages. I have not traced dates for the big exodus to > TX as my main line did not go. However, it was the younger children > and grandchildren of the first Alabama settlers that went. . > > Now, I will tell you that this travelogue is more accurate on > geography than it is on dates. I know where the majority of these > names went and can document it. I am mostly guesstimating the dates. I > am still filling in a lot of holes. > > Let me demonstrate how Cluster genealogy works.I have an ancestor, > Littleton Riggins, born in 1774, I don't know where.His six children > married seven people.Everywhere I seek the Riggins name, I look for > these seven names.With a few exceptions, the eight families all come > together across seven states and 400 years together.I have proved 2 > and possibly 3 of the in-law names to early 1600's VA, or1700's > MD. When I find similar names to one of mine in a state, I look for > the other seven to be with them.It helps to sort out who is who. No > it's not infallible and it leaves you with crazy problems. I know that > the grandfather of Littleton Riggins is one of three men. This leaves > me with 14 KNOWN possible fathers. Because many men left out children > who had moved or children from a first marriage out of their wills, it > is quite possible that there are more men from the three > "grandfathers" that I am missing. BUT, these are the three men who > intermarry with, and trade with, and worship with the CLUSTER. They > are the most likely candidates.Hey, it's better than searching through > the 200+ men of this name who could have fathered Littleton.! > > In my data is a Richard Whatley and a Mary Whateley who each married a > Giles.A Lydia Whatley who married an Eiland and I also have Elisha > who was involved in a land transaction the details of which escape me > at the moment I don't know if these names hit any of you. What I am > actually offering is the geography. For example, everyone hops from VA > headrights to NC land deeds or tax lists ignoring the gape-time > hole.Look in MD folks. If your people were not C of E worshipers, > chances are they "got out of Dodge" Virginia, for the dissident, was > an okay place to visit, but not a place to live in > peace...Maryellen---- Original Message ----- > > From: Hal McCawley <mailto:halmac@sbcglobal.net> > To: Maryellen <mailto:mellenpatch5@cinci.rr.com> ; > GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com <mailto:GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: [Greene] WHATLEY & PICKARD Families > > Hi Meryellen, I am working on the family of Michael WHATLEY & > Catherine BIRD parents to your Elisha. > Do you have sightings for any WHATLEYs livng in Orange Co, NC bef > 1810 - deeds, t/l, road projects, cen...? > What do you have on Michael's dau Margaret "Peggy" who m my gf > John PICKARD? > I descend from John's son James > John > who went to IN ca 1820s. > Best, Hal McCawley of Foster City, CA > > Maryellen wrote: > >>I have an Elisha Whateley Jr in my data born in Bibb Co AL in 1809, married >>to Epsey Hayes...Parents Elisha Whatley Sr born c. 1769 Granville Dist >>Orange Co NC Died 1843 Bibb Co Al ,married Theresa Gibbs 1793 Greene Co GA. >>It seems unlikely that this is yours....However,I will say that this is not >>my main line( though we have married at least twice into these people) and >>the info is second hand. I am finding the date of 1843 very suspicious ! >>1843 is about the time whole clumps of my families headed to LA. I think >>this is when LA was becomming a state and opening for settlement in >>Natchitoches Parrish, which did not have a census till 1850.I wonder if >>Elisha Sr left and someone just thought he had died. And Junior gone to LA. >>Send me some of what you have for other names and I'll tell you if this >>might be the correct Elisha. If it is, you can stop worrying about the War >>of 1812 or the Rev War and go for membership in Colonial Dames. This is a >>pre 1600 family. Maryellen >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <wgalkow@bellsouth.net> >>To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 3:45 PM >>Subject: Re: [Greene] WHATLEY & PICKARD Families >> >> >> >> >>>Do you show an Elisha Whatley from Georgia moving to Louisiana in your >>> >>> >>records? I need to trace backwards and I am having trouble finding his >>parents. I want to prove my lineage for the Daughters of 1812. >> >> >>>Nancy in NOLA >>> >>> >>>>From: Hal McCawley <halmac@sbcglobal.net> >>>>Date: 2004/03/25 Thu PM 02:26:44 EST >>>>To: GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com >>>>Subject: [Greene] WHATLEY & PICKARD Families >>>> >>>>Need birth, death, marriage dates and places for Margaret "Peggy" >>>> >>>> >>WHATLEY who reportedly m John PICKARD [of Orange Co, NC] and appear in 16 >>Feb 1788 will of Michael WHATLEY probated 24 July 1800 in Green Co, GA. >> >> >>>>Any beliefs welcome! >>>>Best, Hal McCawley in Foster City, CA >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== >>>>Need some help getting started with irc (INTERNET RELAY CHAT)? >>>>Try: http://home.flash.net/~gen4m/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== >>>To send a message to the list please write in PLAIN TEXT to: >>>GAGreene-L@RootsWeb.com Do not attach files to messages! >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== >>Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! >>http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ >>The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! >> >> >> >> > >-- >ÿWPCy > > -- ÿWPCy