Could someone who has a copy of the Greene County GA. 1830 census do a look up for me. Am looking for Wm. H. Greene. Thank you. Nancy Peeples --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.657 / Virus Database: 422 - Release Date: 4/13/2004

What current-day town or city was Captain Kimbrough's District in 1820? Lee Anne

I might be interested in your ENGLISH connection. I have a tie to Henry English thru his daughter, Nancy, who married William Beasley. ear

Hello my Reynolds cousins. I hope someone out there is kin to Samuel Davis Reynolds. Kae

Good Morning, Was Peter MALONE related to Robert MALONE (1793-1838) of Augusta? Robert married a Nancy RUTHERFORD and they are buried in the Malone Cemetery, Richmond Co, GA. My notes on Robert are below. His children tie into some collateral families, including the EVANS, VARNER, PIERCE, HILL and MONGIN. As for your CROSS information, I have an Isaac CROSS (1780-1849) of Emanuel County, GA, son of Stephen CROSS, who married an Elizabeth, and their children tie into the GREEN and SPIVEY families of Emanuel County, GA. <<< Robert MALONE merchandised in both Augusta and Savannah and in the 1830's he built a summer home in Brothersville (Hephzibah) which became his family's permanent home after his death. >> John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <BGMcGOWAN@aol.com> To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 6:20 AM Subject: [Greene] FEATHERSTONE CROSS for Roy Hunt >I have this in my notes--not sure where I got it, but the contributor is > named below. I am a Reynolds descendant. Malone is also one of my lines. > I have > a large number of ancestors from Edgefield, and quite a few from Greene > County. (WHITLAW, REYNOLDS, LINDSEY, BROACH, SHERRILL, DURHAM, WARE, also > researching ENGLISH) I'll be happy to share data on any of the above > names. > > "Featherston/e Cross (Sr.) died in Edgefield District, SouthCarolina, in > early 1795, with a will naming wife Elizabeth, eldest dau. Nancy and > unborn child. > Estate mentions two slaves to be sold. One of Executors was Peter Malone. > Moretelling is a deed for a slave (not the same ones mentioned in will) in > Greene County, Georgia, being sold by Peter Malone as executor of the > estate of > Featherston Cross, deceased. No mention is made of Edgefield District, > South > Carolina, but the names fit and the dates definitely work together. No > Crosses on > Edgefield censuses for 1790, etc. The deed ties it together". (Doug > Rutherford, 4-6-2003 <rutherfordcpa@hotmail.com>) > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > GAGreene-L@RootsWeb.com > Any queries go here! > List Maintainer: DigMyPast@msn.com > Any complaints go here! > Please turn off your Stationery, Backrounds & HTML! > Messages to list in plain text only! > >

I have this in my notes--not sure where I got it, but the contributor is named below. I am a Reynolds descendant. Malone is also one of my lines. I have a large number of ancestors from Edgefield, and quite a few from Greene County. (WHITLAW, REYNOLDS, LINDSEY, BROACH, SHERRILL, DURHAM, WARE, also researching ENGLISH) I'll be happy to share data on any of the above names. "Featherston/e Cross (Sr.) died in Edgefield District, SouthCarolina, in early 1795, with a will naming wife Elizabeth, eldest dau. Nancy and unborn child. Estate mentions two slaves to be sold. One of Executors was Peter Malone. Moretelling is a deed for a slave (not the same ones mentioned in will) in Greene County, Georgia, being sold by Peter Malone as executor of the estate of Featherston Cross, deceased. No mention is made of Edgefield District, South Carolina, but the names fit and the dates definitely work together. No Crosses on Edgefield censuses for 1790, etc. The deed ties it together". (Doug Rutherford, 4-6-2003 <rutherfordcpa@hotmail.com>)

Roy, I have a Rebecca (Betsy) Reynolds born 25 Dec 1784 and married to Featherstone Cross. I don't have any info on he or his family. I believe Betsy must have been a widow by the time her father made his will 18 May 1822 because he leaves something to his daughter Betsy Cross without mention of her husband. I believe back then items had to be willed to the husband if he was living. I hope this is helpful. If you want any info on Betsy's family, I will gladly share what I have. Pam Reynolds HUNTR404@cs.com wrote: I am looking for info on Featherstone CROSS and Cross family. Roy <>< ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== Need some help getting started with irc (INTERNET RELAY CHAT)? Try: http://home.flash.net/~gen4m/ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th

You can try the slave schedules for prior years to see if they were recorded. > [Original Message] > From: <webb1013@netzero.net> > To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 4/10/04 5:37:39 PM > Subject: [Greene] Re: History of Greene Co. GA > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Greene County History > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ic.2ADI/623.681.757 > > Message Board Post: > > How can I find out information about the slaves that Lavett Merritt had? I think my ancestors was on her plantation. Roosevelt and Margie? Capt Merritt and Mary Meritt lived on Militia Dist 141. 1900 census > > Thank You > Email webb1013@netzero.net > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > Need some help getting started with irc (INTERNET RELAY CHAT)? > Try: http://home.flash.net/~gen4m/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Ic.2ADI/1690.1.1 Message Board Post: I have posted all of my Harris information on rootsweb. I believe that Lucretia may be the sister of Dickerson Jones and Zacharia Jones who married sisters of Lucritia's husband James Harris. My direct ancestor is James's sister Jane M. Harris Orr so I don't actively research James and Lucretia.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Greene County History Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ic.2ADI/623.681.757 Message Board Post: How can I find out information about the slaves that Lavett Merritt had? I think my ancestors was on her plantation. Roosevelt and Margie? Capt Merritt and Mary Meritt lived on Militia Dist 141. 1900 census Thank You Email webb1013@netzero.net

I am looking for info on Featherstone CROSS and Cross family. Roy <><

I have tried the Census in the 1820 census there is a Samuel that has a son that could fit the age of my John. The records I have tells me he died in 1828 so he would not be on the 1830 census. His wife remarried Thomas May and they are on the 1830 census. After the 1830 census they moved to Floyd co. and I have found them in the census records their. I have hit a brick wall on both John McClain and his wife Mary Williams who were Married in Greene Co. GA. I can not seem to connect with their families Thanks for your help Jim Lovell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Candy L O'Donnell" <mizenext@sbcglobal.net> To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [Greene] McClain > Nothing else in the History of Green County Georgia. I > have the book. Have you tried the Census? I have > Ancestry. Candy > --- Jim & Linda Lovell <jalilo@ida.net> wrote: > > In the history of Greene Co. by Rice & Willams I > > have found the marriages > > of Bennett McClain and Juriah Freeman, also Elisha > > McClain and Nancy Wyatt, > > Elizah McClain and Rosa Ray, John McClain and Mary > > Williams. I believe > > that from the 1950 census, Elisha McClain is the son > > of Bennett. What I > > am wondering is if anyone would know if Bennett, Jon > > and Elizah were brothers. > > John McClain had one son named Thomas Jefferson > > McClain. Bennett McClain > > had the following children: John, Elisha, Jefferson, > > James, Susan, Franklin, > > Henry, Amy and Marion. Is there any additional > > information in the history > > of Greene Co, Georgia on any of these or any other > > sources that I might > > be able to look to find more information? > > > > Thanks > > Jim Lovell > > > > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > > If you are leaving your current ISP, please > > unsubscribe! > > Digest GAGreene-D-request@rootsweb.com > > List GAGreene-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Only one word in body of message UNSUBSCRIBE > > No signature/No nothing! > > > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > To send a message to the list please write in PLAIN TEXT to: > GAGreene-L@RootsWeb.com Do not attach files to messages! >

Nothing else in the History of Green County Georgia. I have the book. Have you tried the Census? I have Ancestry. Candy --- Jim & Linda Lovell <jalilo@ida.net> wrote: > In the history of Greene Co. by Rice & Willams I > have found the marriages > of Bennett McClain and Juriah Freeman, also Elisha > McClain and Nancy Wyatt, > Elizah McClain and Rosa Ray, John McClain and Mary > Williams. I believe > that from the 1950 census, Elisha McClain is the son > of Bennett. What I > am wondering is if anyone would know if Bennett, Jon > and Elizah were brothers. > John McClain had one son named Thomas Jefferson > McClain. Bennett McClain > had the following children: John, Elisha, Jefferson, > James, Susan, Franklin, > Henry, Amy and Marion. Is there any additional > information in the history > of Greene Co, Georgia on any of these or any other > sources that I might > be able to look to find more information? > > Thanks > Jim Lovell > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > If you are leaving your current ISP, please > unsubscribe! > Digest GAGreene-D-request@rootsweb.com > List GAGreene-L-request@rootsweb.com > Only one word in body of message UNSUBSCRIBE > No signature/No nothing! >

In the history of Greene Co. by Rice & Willams I have found the marriages of Bennett McClain and Juriah Freeman, also Elisha McClain and Nancy Wyatt, Elizah McClain and Rosa Ray, John McClain and Mary Williams. I believe that from the 1950 census, Elisha McClain is the son of Bennett. What I am wondering is if anyone would know if Bennett, Jon and Elizah were brothers. John McClain had one son named Thomas Jefferson McClain. Bennett McClain had the following children: John, Elisha, Jefferson, James, Susan, Franklin, Henry, Amy and Marion. Is there any additional information in the history of Greene Co, Georgia on any of these or any other sources that I might be able to look to find more information? Thanks Jim Lovell

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ic.2ADI/1718 Message Board Post: Joseph was born1837 and married Martha Howell. Jeremiah's wife I believe was Ginsey (Kittle). Interested in what happened to Jeremiah and Joseph Jackson. Their deaths and any information about them.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Ic.2ADI/1690.1 Message Board Post: Do you know anything about James Harris' wife Lucretia Jones? I noticed at least 3 of Matthew Harris' children married Jones. Could they be siblings? Have not been able to decipher the parentage of Lucretia. They were married in 1817, Greene Co., GA. Thanks, Donna

Thanks Maryellen for your education. My genealogical history & migration patterns are wanting. Best, Hal McCawley Maryellen wrote: > Okay folks...I am not a Whatley expert...they just float in and out of > the family..HOWEVER...I do cluster genealogy...I follow a pack of > names that intermarry and swap land and move from place to place > together. I'll do my best here to throw out as many names as possible > that might apply....I've got some folks flopping around VA previous to > 1660...I can trace a few names to Jamestown, but the whole bunch > doesn't go back that far. In 1660 folks start picking up or assigning > headrights in VA.About 1620 we are in Isle of Wight...by 1660 we are > in AccomackCo, Va. I think a goodly number were either Quakers or > argumentative as they were always in court. Accomack VA is part of the > DELMARVA Peninsula. In this time period, there was no Delaware.But > many of the old records are in today's Delaware ( or in PA or NJ who > also claimed this territory) Any people in VA who were not Church of > England were "encouraged" to leave , and did. Many ended up in > Somerset Co MD.In MD are Betts, Cannons, Newtons, Riggin, > Broughton,Boyce,Davis, Culum, Townsend,Evans, Barnes, Hosea,Grace, > Whaley, Wheatley, Cook, Atkinson, Maddox, Melson, Wood. Not all of > these people went to each spot. Some skipped a state and then caught > up later. Some kept dropping out and went no further. > > Here's the itinerary. About 1760, a large group left MD/DE.I can't yet > pin a name on why. I am leaning toward the Nicolite movement, but it > doesn't quite fit. They went to NC. They were mostly in the Granville, > Bute, Orange area ( and some surrounding areas)of NC. They were > Regulators. Some time around the Battle of Alamance..they left/were > thrown out/land confiscated/ whatever.They next show up in Old Ninety > Six district of SC.Mostly Abbeville.( A few hit TN) Here is where they > fight in the Revolution. In 1784 they pack up and head for GA where > free land was offered to Vets from anywhere...come and get it. Few > arrive in time for Wilkes Co, most get land in Greene, Washington, or > Oglethorpe Cos in GA. In 1819 Alabama is made a state and by 1820 > they're off again. The difficulty with Alabama is that very few brave > souls bought land before 1838 when the Trail of Tears got the Cherokee > and Creeks off their own land. This leaves you with 18 years to figure > what anyone was up to.1830 is the first whole census here. In 1843 > some of the generation that married in AL left for the new state of > LA. (Yes, it was a Territory, but not everyone wanted to live in a > lawless Territory)The problem here is that you don't have a reliable > census till 1850, and at first, Natchitoches was THE Parish and many > records stayed there though the Parish was broken up and they are in > any of three languages. I have not traced dates for the big exodus to > TX as my main line did not go. However, it was the younger children > and grandchildren of the first Alabama settlers that went. . > > Now, I will tell you that this travelogue is more accurate on > geography than it is on dates. I know where the majority of these > names went and can document it. I am mostly guesstimating the dates. I > am still filling in a lot of holes. > > Let me demonstrate how Cluster genealogy works.I have an ancestor, > Littleton Riggins, born in 1774, I don't know where.His six children > married seven people.Everywhere I seek the Riggins name, I look for > these seven names.With a few exceptions, the eight families all come > together across seven states and 400 years together.I have proved 2 > and possibly 3 of the in-law names to early 1600's VA, or1700's > MD. When I find similar names to one of mine in a state, I look for > the other seven to be with them.It helps to sort out who is who. No > it's not infallible and it leaves you with crazy problems. I know that > the grandfather of Littleton Riggins is one of three men. This leaves > me with 14 KNOWN possible fathers. Because many men left out children > who had moved or children from a first marriage out of their wills, it > is quite possible that there are more men from the three > "grandfathers" that I am missing. BUT, these are the three men who > intermarry with, and trade with, and worship with the CLUSTER. They > are the most likely candidates.Hey, it's better than searching through > the 200+ men of this name who could have fathered Littleton.! > > In my data is a Richard Whatley and a Mary Whateley who each married a > Giles.A Lydia Whatley who married an Eiland and I also have Elisha > who was involved in a land transaction the details of which escape me > at the moment I don't know if these names hit any of you. What I am > actually offering is the geography. For example, everyone hops from VA > headrights to NC land deeds or tax lists ignoring the gape-time > hole.Look in MD folks. If your people were not C of E worshipers, > chances are they "got out of Dodge" Virginia, for the dissident, was > an okay place to visit, but not a place to live in > peace...Maryellen---- Original Message ----- > > From: Hal McCawley <mailto:halmac@sbcglobal.net> > To: Maryellen <mailto:mellenpatch5@cinci.rr.com> ; > GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com <mailto:GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: [Greene] WHATLEY & PICKARD Families > > Hi Meryellen, I am working on the family of Michael WHATLEY & > Catherine BIRD parents to your Elisha. > Do you have sightings for any WHATLEYs livng in Orange Co, NC bef > 1810 - deeds, t/l, road projects, cen...? > What do you have on Michael's dau Margaret "Peggy" who m my gf > John PICKARD? > I descend from John's son James > John > who went to IN ca 1820s. > Best, Hal McCawley of Foster City, CA > > Maryellen wrote: > >>I have an Elisha Whateley Jr in my data born in Bibb Co AL in 1809, married >>to Epsey Hayes...Parents Elisha Whatley Sr born c. 1769 Granville Dist >>Orange Co NC Died 1843 Bibb Co Al ,married Theresa Gibbs 1793 Greene Co GA. >>It seems unlikely that this is yours....However,I will say that this is not >>my main line( though we have married at least twice into these people) and >>the info is second hand. I am finding the date of 1843 very suspicious ! >>1843 is about the time whole clumps of my families headed to LA. I think >>this is when LA was becomming a state and opening for settlement in >>Natchitoches Parrish, which did not have a census till 1850.I wonder if >>Elisha Sr left and someone just thought he had died. And Junior gone to LA. >>Send me some of what you have for other names and I'll tell you if this >>might be the correct Elisha. If it is, you can stop worrying about the War >>of 1812 or the Rev War and go for membership in Colonial Dames. This is a >>pre 1600 family. Maryellen >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <wgalkow@bellsouth.net> >>To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 3:45 PM >>Subject: Re: [Greene] WHATLEY & PICKARD Families >> >> >> >> >>>Do you show an Elisha Whatley from Georgia moving to Louisiana in your >>> >>> >>records? I need to trace backwards and I am having trouble finding his >>parents. I want to prove my lineage for the Daughters of 1812. >> >> >>>Nancy in NOLA >>> >>> >>>>From: Hal McCawley <halmac@sbcglobal.net> >>>>Date: 2004/03/25 Thu PM 02:26:44 EST >>>>To: GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com >>>>Subject: [Greene] WHATLEY & PICKARD Families >>>> >>>>Need birth, death, marriage dates and places for Margaret "Peggy" >>>> >>>> >>WHATLEY who reportedly m John PICKARD [of Orange Co, NC] and appear in 16 >>Feb 1788 will of Michael WHATLEY probated 24 July 1800 in Green Co, GA. >> >> >>>>Any beliefs welcome! >>>>Best, Hal McCawley in Foster City, CA >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== >>>>Need some help getting started with irc (INTERNET RELAY CHAT)? >>>>Try: http://home.flash.net/~gen4m/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== >>>To send a message to the list please write in PLAIN TEXT to: >>>GAGreene-L@RootsWeb.com Do not attach files to messages! >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== >>Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! >>http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ >>The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! >> >> >> >> > >-- >ÿWPCy > > -- ÿWPCy

Thank You. We await your data. Hal McCawley wgalkow@bellsouth.net wrote: >Maryellen, I'll check my paper when I have a chance and get back to you. I will not be able to do this until next week. The Women's Final 4 is here in New Orleans through next Wednesday and I am volunteering to help with that. >Thanks for your kind offer of help. >Nancy in NOLA > > >>From: "Maryellen" <mellenpatch5@cinci.rr.com> >>Date: 2004/03/31 Wed PM 04:32:34 EST >>To: GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [Greene] WHATLEY & PICKARD Families >> >>I have an Elisha Whateley Jr in my data born in Bibb Co AL in 1809, married >>to Epsey Hayes...Parents Elisha Whatley Sr born c. 1769 Granville Dist >>Orange Co NC Died 1843 Bibb Co Al ,married Theresa Gibbs 1793 Greene Co GA. >>It seems unlikely that this is yours....However,I will say that this is not >>my main line( though we have married at least twice into these people) and >>the info is second hand. I am finding the date of 1843 very suspicious ! >>1843 is about the time whole clumps of my families headed to LA. I think >>this is when LA was becomming a state and opening for settlement in >>Natchitoches Parrish, which did not have a census till 1850.I wonder if >>Elisha Sr left and someone just thought he had died. And Junior gone to LA. >>Send me some of what you have for other names and I'll tell you if this >>might be the correct Elisha. If it is, you can stop worrying about the War >>of 1812 or the Rev War and go for membership in Colonial Dames. This is a >>pre 1600 family. Maryellen >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <wgalkow@bellsouth.net> >>To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 3:45 PM >>Subject: Re: [Greene] WHATLEY & PICKARD Families >> >> >> >> >>>Do you show an Elisha Whatley from Georgia moving to Louisiana in your >>> >>> >>records? I need to trace backwards and I am having trouble finding his >>parents. I want to prove my lineage for the Daughters of 1812. >> >> >>>Nancy in NOLA >>> >>> >>>>From: Hal McCawley <halmac@sbcglobal.net> >>>>Date: 2004/03/25 Thu PM 02:26:44 EST >>>>To: GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com >>>>Subject: [Greene] WHATLEY & PICKARD Families >>>> >>>>Need birth, death, marriage dates and places for Margaret "Peggy" >>>> >>>> >>WHATLEY who reportedly m John PICKARD [of Orange Co, NC] and appear in 16 >>Feb 1788 will of Michael WHATLEY probated 24 July 1800 in Green Co, GA. >> >> >>>>Any beliefs welcome! >>>>Best, Hal McCawley in Foster City, CA >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== >>>>Need some help getting started with irc (INTERNET RELAY CHAT)? >>>>Try: http://home.flash.net/~gen4m/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== >>>To send a message to the list please write in PLAIN TEXT to: >>>GAGreene-L@RootsWeb.com Do not attach files to messages! >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== >>Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! >>http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ >>The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! >> >> >> >> > > >==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== >Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness >http://raogk.rootsweb.com/ > > > > -- ÿWPCy

One addition thought to grasp onto...After the Revolution, many NC Regulators who had fled Gov Tryon and his heavy handed punishments, returned to NC and the lands which had been confiscated. This presupposes that they were able to reclaim these same lands.Sometimes Non regulator family members bought them for the former owners. Others just moved on. This had to be a real mess. ! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maryellen" <mellenpatch5@cinci.rr.com> To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [Greene] WHATLEY & PICKARD Families > By the way, I meant to say that the Whatleys were a pre 1700 family, not pre > 1600...though there is always the occasional Cherokee here and there in most > of these families. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Maryellen" <mellenpatch5@cinci.rr.com> > To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:02 PM > Subject: Re: [Greene] WHATLEY & PICKARD Families > > > > Okay folks...I am not a Whatley expert...they just float in and out of the > family..HOWEVER...I do cluster genealogy...I follow a pack of names that > intermarry and swap land and move from place to place together. I'll do my > best here to throw out as many names as possible that might apply....I've > got some folks flopping around VA previous to 1660...I can trace a few names > to Jamestown, but the whole bunch doesn't go back that far. In 1660 folks > start picking up or assigning headrights in VA.About 1620 we are in Isle of > Wight...by 1660 we are in AccomackCo, Va. I think a goodly number were > either Quakers or argumentative as they were always in court. Accomack VA is > part of the DELMARVA Peninsula. In this time period, there was no > Delaware.But many of the old records are in today's Delaware ( or in PA or > NJ who also claimed this territory) Any people in VA who were not Church of > England were "encouraged" to leave , and did. Many ended up in Somerset Co > MD.In MD are Betts, Canno! > > ns, Newtons, Riggin, Broughton,Boyce,Davis, Culum, Townsend,Evans, Barnes, > Hosea,Grace, Whaley, Wheatley, Cook, Atkinson, Maddox, Melson, Wood. Not > all of these people went to each spot. Some skipped a state and then caught > up later. Some kept dropping out and went no further. > > > > Here's the itinerary. About 1760, a large group left MD/DE.I can't yet pin > a name on why. I am leaning toward the Nicolite movement, but it doesn't > quite fit. They went to NC. They were mostly in the Granville, Bute, Orange > area ( and some surrounding areas)of NC. They were Regulators. Some time > around the Battle of Alamance..they left/were thrown out/land confiscated/ > whatever.They next show up in Old Ninety Six district of SC.Mostly > Abbeville.( A few hit TN) Here is where they fight in the Revolution. In > 1784 they pack up and head for GA where free land was offered to Vets from > anywhere...come and get it. Few arrive in time for Wilkes Co, most get land > in Greene, Washington, or Oglethorpe Cos in GA. In 1819 Alabama is made a > state and by 1820 they're off again. The difficulty with Alabama is that > very few brave souls bought land before 1838 when the Trail of Tears got the > Cherokee and Creeks off their own land. This leaves you with 18 years to > figure what anyone was up to.! > > 1830 is the first whole census here. In 1843 some of the generation that > married in AL left for the new state of LA. (Yes, it was a Territory, but > not everyone wanted to live in a lawless Territory)The problem here is that > you don't have a reliable census till 1850, and at first, Natchitoches was > THE Parish and many records stayed there though the Parish was broken up and > they are in any of three languages. I have not traced dates for the big > exodus to TX as my main line did not go. However, it was the younger > children and grandchildren of the first Alabama settlers that went. . > > > > Now, I will tell you that this travelogue is more accurate on geography > than it is on dates. I know where the majority of these names went and can > document it. I am mostly guesstimating the dates. I am still filling in a > lot of holes. > > > > Let me demonstrate how Cluster genealogy works.I have an ancestor, > Littleton Riggins, born in 1774, I don't know where.His six children married > seven people.Everywhere I seek the Riggins name, I look for these seven > names.With a few exceptions, the eight families all come together across > seven states and 400 years together.I have proved 2 and possibly 3 of the > in-law names to early 1600's VA, or1700's MD. When I find similar names to > one of mine in a state, I look for the other seven to be with them.It helps > to sort out who is who. No it's not infallible and it leaves you with crazy > problems. I know that the grandfather of Littleton Riggins is one of three > men. This leaves me with 14 KNOWN possible fathers. Because many men left > out children who had moved or children from a first marriage out of their > wills, it is quite possible that there are more men from the three > "grandfathers" that I am missing. BUT, these are the three men who > intermarry with, and trade with, and worsh! > > ip with the CLUSTER. They are the most likely candidates.Hey, it's better > than searching through the 200+ men of this name who could have fathered > Littleton.! > > > > In my data is a Richard Whatley and a Mary Whateley who each married a > Giles.A Lydia Whatley who married an Eiland and I also have Elisha who was > involved in a land transaction the details of which escape me at the moment > I don't know if these names hit any of you. What I am actually offering is > the geography. For example, everyone hops from VA headrights to NC land > deeds or tax lists ignoring the gape-time hole.Look in MD folks. If your > people were not C of E worshipers, chances are they "got out of Dodge" > Virginia, for the dissident, was an okay place to visit, but not a place to > live in peace...Maryellen---- Original Message ----- > > From: Hal McCawley > > To: Maryellen ; GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:30 PM > > Subject: Re: [Greene] WHATLEY & PICKARD Families > > > > > > Hi Meryellen, I am working on the family of Michael WHATLEY & Catherine > BIRD parents to your Elisha. > > Do you have sightings for any WHATLEYs livng in Orange Co, NC bef 1810 - > deeds, t/l, road projects, cen...? > > What do you have on Michael's dau Margaret "Peggy" who m my gf John > PICKARD? > > I descend from John's son James > John > who went to IN ca 1820s. > > Best, Hal McCawley of Foster City, CA > > > > Maryellen wrote: > > > > I have an Elisha Whateley Jr in my data born in Bibb Co AL in 1809, > married > > to Epsey Hayes...Parents Elisha Whatley Sr born c. 1769 Granville Dist > > Orange Co NC Died 1843 Bibb Co Al ,married Theresa Gibbs 1793 Greene Co > GA. > > It seems unlikely that this is yours....However,I will say that this is > not > > my main line( though we have married at least twice into these people) > and > > the info is second hand. I am finding the date of 1843 very suspicious ! > > 1843 is about the time whole clumps of my families headed to LA. I think > > this is when LA was becomming a state and opening for settlement in > > Natchitoches Parrish, which did not have a census till 1850.I wonder if > > Elisha Sr left and someone just thought he had died. And Junior gone to > LA. > > Send me some of what you have for other names and I'll tell you if this > > might be the correct Elisha. If it is, you can stop worrying about the War > > of 1812 or the Rev War and go for membership in Colonial Dames. This is a > > pre 1600 family. Maryellen > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <wgalkow@bellsouth.net> > > To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 3:45 PM > > Subject: Re: [Greene] WHATLEY & PICKARD Families > > > > > > Do you show an Elisha Whatley from Georgia moving to Louisiana in your > > records? I need to trace backwards and I am having trouble finding his > > parents. I want to prove my lineage for the Daughters of 1812. > > Nancy in NOLA > > From: Hal McCawley <halmac@sbcglobal.net> > > Date: 2004/03/25 Thu PM 02:26:44 EST > > To: GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [Greene] WHATLEY & PICKARD Families > > > > Need birth, death, marriage dates and places for Margaret "Peggy" > > WHATLEY who reportedly m John PICKARD [of Orange Co, NC] and appear > in 16 > > Feb 1788 will of Michael WHATLEY probated 24 July 1800 in Green Co, GA. > > Any beliefs welcome! > > Best, Hal McCawley in Foster City, CA > > > > > > > > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > > Need some help getting started with irc (INTERNET RELAY CHAT)? > > Try: http://home.flash.net/~gen4m/ > > > > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > > To send a message to the list please write in PLAIN TEXT to: > > GAGreene-L@RootsWeb.com Do not attach files to messages! > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > > Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! > > http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ÿWPCy > > > > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > > Greene County, GA Mailing list maintainer: DigMyPast@msn.com > > Home of Greene Co, GA: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagreene/ > > > > > > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > Need some help getting started with irc (INTERNET RELAY CHAT)? > Try: http://home.flash.net/~gen4m/ >

By the way, I meant to say that the Whatleys were a pre 1700 family, not pre 1600...though there is always the occasional Cherokee here and there in most of these families. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maryellen" <mellenpatch5@cinci.rr.com> To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [Greene] WHATLEY & PICKARD Families > Okay folks...I am not a Whatley expert...they just float in and out of the family..HOWEVER...I do cluster genealogy...I follow a pack of names that intermarry and swap land and move from place to place together. I'll do my best here to throw out as many names as possible that might apply....I've got some folks flopping around VA previous to 1660...I can trace a few names to Jamestown, but the whole bunch doesn't go back that far. In 1660 folks start picking up or assigning headrights in VA.About 1620 we are in Isle of Wight...by 1660 we are in AccomackCo, Va. I think a goodly number were either Quakers or argumentative as they were always in court. Accomack VA is part of the DELMARVA Peninsula. In this time period, there was no Delaware.But many of the old records are in today's Delaware ( or in PA or NJ who also claimed this territory) Any people in VA who were not Church of England were "encouraged" to leave , and did. Many ended up in Somerset Co MD.In MD are Betts, Canno! > ns, Newtons, Riggin, Broughton,Boyce,Davis, Culum, Townsend,Evans, Barnes, Hosea,Grace, Whaley, Wheatley, Cook, Atkinson, Maddox, Melson, Wood. Not all of these people went to each spot. Some skipped a state and then caught up later. Some kept dropping out and went no further. > > Here's the itinerary. About 1760, a large group left MD/DE.I can't yet pin a name on why. I am leaning toward the Nicolite movement, but it doesn't quite fit. They went to NC. They were mostly in the Granville, Bute, Orange area ( and some surrounding areas)of NC. They were Regulators. Some time around the Battle of Alamance..they left/were thrown out/land confiscated/ whatever.They next show up in Old Ninety Six district of SC.Mostly Abbeville.( A few hit TN) Here is where they fight in the Revolution. In 1784 they pack up and head for GA where free land was offered to Vets from anywhere...come and get it. Few arrive in time for Wilkes Co, most get land in Greene, Washington, or Oglethorpe Cos in GA. In 1819 Alabama is made a state and by 1820 they're off again. The difficulty with Alabama is that very few brave souls bought land before 1838 when the Trail of Tears got the Cherokee and Creeks off their own land. This leaves you with 18 years to figure what anyone was up to.! > 1830 is the first whole census here. In 1843 some of the generation that married in AL left for the new state of LA. (Yes, it was a Territory, but not everyone wanted to live in a lawless Territory)The problem here is that you don't have a reliable census till 1850, and at first, Natchitoches was THE Parish and many records stayed there though the Parish was broken up and they are in any of three languages. I have not traced dates for the big exodus to TX as my main line did not go. However, it was the younger children and grandchildren of the first Alabama settlers that went. . > > Now, I will tell you that this travelogue is more accurate on geography than it is on dates. I know where the majority of these names went and can document it. I am mostly guesstimating the dates. I am still filling in a lot of holes. > > Let me demonstrate how Cluster genealogy works.I have an ancestor, Littleton Riggins, born in 1774, I don't know where.His six children married seven people.Everywhere I seek the Riggins name, I look for these seven names.With a few exceptions, the eight families all come together across seven states and 400 years together.I have proved 2 and possibly 3 of the in-law names to early 1600's VA, or1700's MD. When I find similar names to one of mine in a state, I look for the other seven to be with them.It helps to sort out who is who. No it's not infallible and it leaves you with crazy problems. I know that the grandfather of Littleton Riggins is one of three men. This leaves me with 14 KNOWN possible fathers. Because many men left out children who had moved or children from a first marriage out of their wills, it is quite possible that there are more men from the three "grandfathers" that I am missing. BUT, these are the three men who intermarry with, and trade with, and worsh! > ip with the CLUSTER. They are the most likely candidates.Hey, it's better than searching through the 200+ men of this name who could have fathered Littleton.! > > In my data is a Richard Whatley and a Mary Whateley who each married a Giles.A Lydia Whatley who married an Eiland and I also have Elisha who was involved in a land transaction the details of which escape me at the moment I don't know if these names hit any of you. What I am actually offering is the geography. For example, everyone hops from VA headrights to NC land deeds or tax lists ignoring the gape-time hole.Look in MD folks. If your people were not C of E worshipers, chances are they "got out of Dodge" Virginia, for the dissident, was an okay place to visit, but not a place to live in peace...Maryellen---- Original Message ----- > From: Hal McCawley > To: Maryellen ; GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: [Greene] WHATLEY & PICKARD Families > > > Hi Meryellen, I am working on the family of Michael WHATLEY & Catherine BIRD parents to your Elisha. > Do you have sightings for any WHATLEYs livng in Orange Co, NC bef 1810 - deeds, t/l, road projects, cen...? > What do you have on Michael's dau Margaret "Peggy" who m my gf John PICKARD? > I descend from John's son James > John > who went to IN ca 1820s. > Best, Hal McCawley of Foster City, CA > > Maryellen wrote: > > I have an Elisha Whateley Jr in my data born in Bibb Co AL in 1809, married > to Epsey Hayes...Parents Elisha Whatley Sr born c. 1769 Granville Dist > Orange Co NC Died 1843 Bibb Co Al ,married Theresa Gibbs 1793 Greene Co GA. > It seems unlikely that this is yours....However,I will say that this is not > my main line( though we have married at least twice into these people) and > the info is second hand. I am finding the date of 1843 very suspicious ! > 1843 is about the time whole clumps of my families headed to LA. I think > this is when LA was becomming a state and opening for settlement in > Natchitoches Parrish, which did not have a census till 1850.I wonder if > Elisha Sr left and someone just thought he had died. And Junior gone to LA. > Send me some of what you have for other names and I'll tell you if this > might be the correct Elisha. If it is, you can stop worrying about the War > of 1812 or the Rev War and go for membership in Colonial Dames. This is a > pre 1600 family. Maryellen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <wgalkow@bellsouth.net> > To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 3:45 PM > Subject: Re: [Greene] WHATLEY & PICKARD Families > > > Do you show an Elisha Whatley from Georgia moving to Louisiana in your > records? I need to trace backwards and I am having trouble finding his > parents. I want to prove my lineage for the Daughters of 1812. > Nancy in NOLA > From: Hal McCawley <halmac@sbcglobal.net> > Date: 2004/03/25 Thu PM 02:26:44 EST > To: GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Greene] WHATLEY & PICKARD Families > > Need birth, death, marriage dates and places for Margaret "Peggy" > WHATLEY who reportedly m John PICKARD [of Orange Co, NC] and appear in 16 > Feb 1788 will of Michael WHATLEY probated 24 July 1800 in Green Co, GA. > Any beliefs welcome! > Best, Hal McCawley in Foster City, CA > > > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > Need some help getting started with irc (INTERNET RELAY CHAT)? > Try: http://home.flash.net/~gen4m/ > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > To send a message to the list please write in PLAIN TEXT to: > GAGreene-L@RootsWeb.com Do not attach files to messages! > > > > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! > http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! > > > > > -- > ÿWPCy > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > Greene County, GA Mailing list maintainer: DigMyPast@msn.com > Home of Greene Co, GA: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagreene/ > >