This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Echols Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ic.2ADI/210.298.1 Message Board Post: HEllo I know this is not much to go on but Jane Echols married Solomon Ray in 1796 in wilkes co Ga. Solomon Ray and his father George Ray lived in Wilkes co Ga veryl close to whre Wilkes and Greene and Oglethorpe co Ga joined in 1796. I am trying to find who Jane echol's parents were. Would your book mane any reference to an Echols family living in Greene co Ga in 1796? Thanks,Ross

http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=hinx&id=I3518 This looks like the same persons? Gerry Hill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Addice Thomas" <addice36@mywesties.com> To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 9:36 PM Subject: [Greene] Re: GAGREENE-D Digest V04 #158 > > I have several names of interest in Greene Co., GA. They are all related in > some way but I don't have enough information to tie them together. > > Susan Ashley married _________Rodgers in Greene Co. in 1812. > Louisa Cook married Capt. Josiah Rodgers on 19 Oct 1819. He was from Greene > Co. > Eliza Cook (Louisa's sister) married Julius Caesar Alford in Greene Co. of > 14 Mar 1821. Louisa and Eliza Cook were first cousins to Susan Ashley > > Can anyone help, especially with info on the Rodgers family? Also > interested in Henry Beman, a minister, who died in Greene Co. in 1837. Did > he marry, and if so to whom? > > Addoce Thomas > > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > To send a message to the list please write in PLAIN TEXT to: > GAGreene-L@RootsWeb.com Do not attach files to messages! > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

I have this that I got from Genforum on the Alford's The AAFA has much on this family and it can be traced back to John Alford around 1645. If you wish for more info, just e-mail the AAFA and I am sure their records are more complete than mine. (John Rogers posting on this family on GenForum.com) All the lineage information I have comes from internet genealogy sites - one an AAFA Family Tree Maker site and the other, James L. Edenfield's site at www.edenfield.org. I have no idea how accurate these pedigrees are (I assume the Alford Family Association is pretty accurate). I know there are a lot of questions regarding the birthplace of Britain Sr. and whether he was a Revolutionary Soldier or not -- seems if it's on his gravestone that would be proof..?? trying to find out info about my ggggg grandparents - Joshua Askew and Aley Alford.... there seem to be two pairs of individuals with those names right at the end of the 1700's-- one set in Bertie/Buncombe, NC and another set in Greene, Co., GA... Julius Alford (Julius Caesar's father) may be the link to this puzzle... Julius Caesar appears to be the brother of my Aley, (her third son was named Julius), and Joshua Askew was a land owner in Morgan Co.GA 1810-28, right next door to Greene any recent info you have on these Alfords would be appreciated robert holley miami ----- Original Message ----- From: "Addice Thomas" <addice36@mywesties.com> To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 9:36 PM Subject: [Greene] Re: GAGREENE-D Digest V04 #158 > > I have several names of interest in Greene Co., GA. They are all related in > some way but I don't have enough information to tie them together. > > Susan Ashley married _________Rodgers in Greene Co. in 1812. > Louisa Cook married Capt. Josiah Rodgers on 19 Oct 1819. He was from Greene > Co. > Eliza Cook (Louisa's sister) married Julius Caesar Alford in Greene Co. of > 14 Mar 1821. Louisa and Eliza Cook were first cousins to Susan Ashley > > Can anyone help, especially with info on the Rodgers family? Also > interested in Henry Beman, a minister, who died in Greene Co. in 1837. Did > he marry, and if so to whom? > > Addoce Thomas > > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > To send a message to the list please write in PLAIN TEXT to: > GAGreene-L@RootsWeb.com Do not attach files to messages! > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ic.2ADI/7.134.1 Message Board Post: My James N. English married Martha Lurry (Leary) October 1859 in GA. I cannot tie him to a family in 1860 census, which I should be able to do, as he would have been married. He served in the GA Cavalry; received pension in TX. I first find him in TX 1870 together with his family and a child named Audora English born May 1859 (which may or may not be his child). She died before as a young teen ager. Steven English who married Cheney, had two sons, John and Howell; they lived near my James English in Dallas (all born GA) in 1910, 1920, then they all moved together with the Rodgers to Irving, TX; where they remained. Howell English is even buried in the same cemetery as James N. English. James English stated in the 1910 census that he married 3 times, yet we can only find Martha Lurry (Leary) GA and Stellen Vick of TX, listed in census with him. He was missing for some time period after civil war, and I always wonder, did he marry someone while he was missing?; then return home to Martha? He was supposed dead for such a long period of time that his wife Martha had to be put to bed from shock at seeing him standing on her porch. Unfortunately, I don't know if this was in GA or TX; as he was in Smith Co, TX 1870 with Martha and their first three children: Audora 1859 GA, Anna Mariah 1863 GA, and Martha TX 1869. Of course there were more children born in TX, later on. Yet, I can't prove how they connect. Any suggestions would be helpful. Also, there are Rice families near them in Dallas, if that means anything to you.

The children of Nat SMITH (1781-1836) and Elizabeth (HUDSON) that I have are: i. Robert B. SMITH born 4 Sep 1819, died 3 Sep 1851, buried Smith/Sanders Cemetery, Oglethorpe County, Georgia. ii. Annie Harrison SMITH born 9 Jul 1821 in Bowling Green, Oglethorpe County, GA married Nathan HUNTER on 17 Dec 1839 in Oglethorpe County, GA and died 22 Jul 1906 in Bowling Green, Oglethorpe County, GA. She and Nathan are buried in the Smith/Sanders Cemetery, Oglethorpe County, Georgia. iii. Stephen B. SMITH - 8 Feb 1828 - 20 Mar 1855, buried in Smith/Sanders Cemetery, Oglethorpe County, Georgia. iv. Rebecca Elizabeth SMITH - b. ABT 1830, died 17 Dec 1905, married Edward Lloyd SANDERS b. AFT 1820, s/o Jonathan Jones SANDERS and Harriett WAILS. Were any of your ROSE family ever a part of the ROSE family of Marion (then Harrison County) County, TX - located near Caddo Lake, north and west of Shreveport, LA. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "E. Annette Rose" <earphoto@inreach.com> To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [Greene] Elisha Sparks HUNTER b.c. 1802 d. 1852 BETHESDA/WHATLEY'S MILL >I believe the Nathaniel Harrison Smith referred to in this item is/was > husband to Elizabeth Hudson, dau. of John Hudson of VA (d. 1790) and Mary > Beasley, making her a grand-dau of Ward Hudson of VA. > > Elizabeth, along her remarried mother, now Mary Beasley Ward, (she married > John's cousin, Seth Ward in 1794) were in Oglethorpe county by 1800. They > lived in the area that changed boundries often, once Greene, then > Oglethorpe, back to Greene, maybe back to Oglethorpe........they could > have > been in both counties and never moved. > > If this HUNTER lady, Annie Harrison Smith, is a daughter, then I have at > least the name of one of the children. > > Anyone have clues or information for me on that family? > > God Bless, > ear > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe please write: > GAGreene-L-Request@RootsWeb.com for list mode > or GAGreene-D-Request@RootsWeb.com for digest mode > In body of message only the word UNSUBSCRIBE > Send mail in PLAIN TEXT > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

I am looking for information on the parents of my great-grandfather, Frederick C. McWhorter (b. 1822, d. 1886). He lived in Greshamville and is buried in Penfield Cemetery. My great-grandmother was Elizabeth Anne Johnson (b. 1827, d. 1904). I would greatly appreciate any information anyone can give me. Thank you. James McWhorter JMcWhorter@worldnet.att.net

Vivian, Since you brought up Oglethorpe County, GA there is also a additional HUNTER family tied to the RICHTERS of Madison, GA that is out of Oglethorpe County, GA. This HUNTER family, unlike the Elisha Sparks HUNTER family of Greensboro, is supposedly from Ireland. Nathan HUNTER (1806-1861), supposedly born in Antrim County, IRELAND, married Annie Harrison SMITH (1821-1906), d/o Nathaniel Harrison "Nat" SMITH (1781-1836) of Dinwiddie County, VA, later of Stephens, Oglethorpe County, GA. Nathan and Annie were the parents of Col. Nathaniel Harrison HUNTER (1841-1883) who married Sarah Caroline RICHTER (1842-1908) of Madison, Morgan County, GA in 1862. Nathaniel and Sarah are buried at Salem Baptist Church Cemetery, Oglethorpe County, GA. It was Sarah's older brother Charles W. RICHTER, Jr. (1837-1907)who married Mary Lou HUNTER, d/o Elisha Sparks HUNTER, Jr. of Greensboro. When I see siblings marrying persons of the same surname I generally say "same family" but I have been told by other RICHTER family researchers "they were not from the same HUNTER family." I do not know but what I do know is where Annie's family came from and who they are tied to. Her SMITH family was out of Gloucester County, VA, later Brunswick County, VA and even later, Greene County, GA. They are tied to the CHAMBERLAINS, DREWS and COLLIERS. In fact, this SMITH family is very closely collateral with the COLLIERS of New Hanover County, VA, Brunswick County, VA and later Greene and Oglethorpe County, GA. I am also sure the name, Nathaniel Harrison SMITH, also rolls back to Col. Nathaniel HARRISON of Brunswick County, VA since Nat SMITH's parents were Charles SMITH and Ann HARRISON. The two families that are really tight in Brunswick are the HARRISONS and the HICKS. The HARRISONS descend from Nathaniel of Surry County, VA who was married to a CARY and the HICKS who descend from Capt. Robert HICKS of Brunswick County, VA. My DANIEL family which marries into the RICHTER family of Madison at the same level (grandfather, grand aunt and uncle level) as these HUNTER families is a 25 marker DNA match with descendants of Capt. James DANIEL (ABT 1709-1761) and Jane HICKS of Albemarle County, VA. Researchers have tried to force her HICKS family to be a different HICKS family than is found in Brunswick County, VA but I think they Jane HICKS was out of the same HICKS family we see tied to the HARRISONS. I also do not buy James as being what we term a "Middlesex DANIEL" and DNA supports this since DNA is not matching up across descendants of Capt. William DANIEL (1625-1698) of Middlesex County, VA. However, I do not know where the break occurred and we will not know until more DNA testing is done. I generally think Capt. James DANIEL of Albemarle County, VA was what I call a "Woodson DANIEL," and a descendant of Gent. Roger DANIELL, who was also married to a CARY. Some disagree and some do so, strenuously, however I think DNA is beginning to show they are wrong in their assessments because we are getting DNA matches in locations where "we are not supposed to" and not getting matches in locations where "we are supposed to." That, tells me that many early DANIEL assignments are all wrong. I think parts of the DANIEL family of Middlesex County, VA, the Woodson-Watkins DANIELS of Henrico, Goochland and Cumberland County, VA, some of the DANIEL family of Chowan, Tyrrell, Beaufort and Pitt County, NC and quite possibly the DANIELL family of Charleston, SC are parts of the same DANIEL of DANIELL family, since the DANIEL family of Middlesex, this DANIEL family of Henrico and the DANIEL family of Charleston all spelled their names, early, as DANIELL - double L. It was only later that their descendants started dropping the "double L" and resorting to a single L spelling of their name. I also think they were all Royalists who supported Charles II and were rewarded, handsomely by Charles, after he regained the throne in 1663. I also know there is a strong Quaker connection to this overall family, although many later joined the Church of England. It must always be remembered the Quakers were primarily English Royalists who fled England during the English Civil War, many to Barbados, where they aligned with other Royalists to help defeat Cromwell. Also, many in these overall families were real heavy in the mercantile and trading business and this seems to be a general avocation in their families for generations, afterwards. The LANIERS, CHAMBERLAINS and DANIELS were all in this group and the haplotype of my DANIEL family is a perfect match to the Anglo-Saxon haplotype, all of which seems to support, at least, some of these assessments. It is going to take a lot more DNA testing before we know for sure how some of these lines break out. Right now we have tested about 50 different DANIEL persons and have 20 different DANIEL lines, many of which were probably McDANIEL, McDONALD, DONNEL, DANINLEY, etc. at some point, but my DANIEL line from Greene County, NC matches seven others and they match 16% of all DANIEL lines tested (8 out of 50) and I expect this percentage will go up as we continue to test other DANIEL descendants. While deeds and wills may help us sort out later connections in all of our families, the only way we can get these early family connections, correct, is through DNA testing. If your family has not participated in a "Y" DNA test, then I strongly advise that you do so because I think these tests are going to overturn many long held family myths. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vivian Toole" <vtoole@inu.net> To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 11:58 AM Subject: [Greene] Elisha Sparks HUNTER b.c. 1802 d. 1852 BETHESDA/WHATLEY'S MILL > Hunters, especially Elisha Sparks Hunter (also E. Sparks Hunter, ESH, E. > S. > Hunter) were very active in the Bethesda Baptist Church (formerly > Whatley's > Mill)in the early to mid 1800's. One Samuel Hunter sold the land to the > church in 1815 for the present church finished in 1818. Samuel Hunter > married Charity Whatley, dau. of Ornan Whatley, in 1800 in Greene County, > Georgia. See Ornan Whatley's will recorded in Oglethorpe County. > I do not have a Hunter line to my knowledge, but I did published the > church > minutes from 1817 to 1865. The earlier minutes have been lost. > Elisha Sparks Hunter apparently died between the February 15, 1852 > conference which were signed "E S Hunter a clerk" and the July 17, 1852, > church conference minutes which are signed "H H Watts Clerk." > Between the March 20, 1852, conference church minutes and the July 17, > 1852 > conference minutes both of which are signed by "H H Watts Clerk" is this > notation... > "Bro. E S Hunter, A. Greene & Daniel Bethune Dead > On account of the pestlence prevailing in our country we have had no > preaching for three months." > I still have copies of the church minutes left. If anyone happens to be > interested in purchasing a copy please contact me privately. This church > is > located in eastern Greene County east of Union Point and north of Hwy 44 > to > Washington. poeple attended church here from surrounding counties > (Greene, > Oglethorpe, Wilkes, Taliaferro, etc. > My lines in Greene and adjoining counties are listed in the front of the > church minute book: > Durham, Reynolds, Malone, Bowles/Booles, Lindsey, Freeman, Pollard, and > Toole. > Vivian Cates, Rt. #2 Box 52-A, Alto, Texas 75925-9607 > http://www.inu.net/vcates > > > -----Original Message----- > From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com [mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com]On Behalf > Of Investorsfg@mindspring.com > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 2:26 PM > To: GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Greene] Re: Elisha Sparks HUNTER (b. 1802) - UPDATE > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Ralls Coleman Daniels Sanford > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ic.2ADI/1225.1.2 > > Message Board Post: > > It has been two years since your posting. As you probably know by now, > Elisha was married to Elizabeth Ann Ralls (not Rolls). Her father James > Hector (not Hunter) Ralls. Her mother was Cynthia Ann Coleman (not > Copeland). > > Cynthia Ann Coleman's parents were Eden Coleman (abt 1768-1817) and Nancy > Ann Daniel (1770-1828). > > Eden's father, Daniel Coleman (abt 1716-aft 1777) is my line. > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! > http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > East Georgia Genealogical Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaeggs/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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I believe the Nathaniel Harrison Smith referred to in this item is/was husband to Elizabeth Hudson, dau. of John Hudson of VA (d. 1790) and Mary Beasley, making her a grand-dau of Ward Hudson of VA. Elizabeth, along her remarried mother, now Mary Beasley Ward, (she married John's cousin, Seth Ward in 1794) were in Oglethorpe county by 1800. They lived in the area that changed boundries often, once Greene, then Oglethorpe, back to Greene, maybe back to Oglethorpe........they could have been in both counties and never moved. If this HUNTER lady, Annie Harrison Smith, is a daughter, then I have at least the name of one of the children. Anyone have clues or information for me on that family? God Bless, ear

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ic.2ADI/1225.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Gee, I only know the Colemans. I suppose my info came from the marriage documents. Really, this is a lateral line of a lateral line for me. I just knew my info was better than the names Eliza Booles and Ann Copeland that someone had previously posted. Good luck, Mark PS I completely defer to your research, but you might reconsider your logic about a repeat of the name Hector among brothers. I have several families where all the boys had the middle name Gordon and all the girls had the middle name Ann. Almost all male descendants of Victoria (at her request) still have a middle name of Albert, and of course George Foreman has four sons named George.

I have several names of interest in Greene Co., GA. They are all related in some way but I don't have enough information to tie them together. Susan Ashley married _________Rodgers in Greene Co. in 1812. Louisa Cook married Capt. Josiah Rodgers on 19 Oct 1819. He was from Greene Co. Eliza Cook (Louisa's sister) married Julius Caesar Alford in Greene Co. of 14 Mar 1821. Louisa and Eliza Cook were first cousins to Susan Ashley Can anyone help, especially with info on the Rodgers family? Also interested in Henry Beman, a minister, who died in Greene Co. in 1837. Did he marry, and if so to whom? Addoce Thomas

Vivian, I have 23 Mar 1852 as the DOD of Elisha Sparks HUNTER, Jr. of Greensboro and he lived in Greensboro. His daughter, Mary Lou HUNTER (1848-1917) married Charles W. RICHTER, Jr. on 12 Sep 1866 in Greensboro, Green County, GA. Professor Charles RICHTER was the oldest son of Charles W. RICHTER, Sr. (1807-1884) and Anne Elizabeth POTTER (1808-1863) of Madison. Mary Lou had sisters, Laura, Julia and Emma and a brother named, James Thomas HUNTER and I do not know who they married. I do not show a Samuel HUNTER attached to this family but there could well have been one. I also show Elisha's brothers as Rev. Alston M. HUNTER (married Martha STILLWELL) and William Alston HUNTER (married Sophronia Massey HEARD) and sisters, Miriam HUNTER who married Thomas Washington RANDLE, Rebecca HUNTER who married Charles SHACKELFORD, Nancy HUNTER who married Joseph FITZPATRICK and Mary HUNTER who married Lewis CALLAWAY. Elisha Sparks HUNTER, Sr. was the son of Jesse HUNTER and Ann Hinton ALSTON of Wilkes County, GA. Elisha, Sr. married a Rebecca LNU. The WATLEYS of Warren County, NC are mentioned in deeds of this family back in Warren County, NC before they moved to Wilkes County, GA I also have WATLEYS of Granville tied to this overall family - Edmund WHATLEY (1752-1801) who married Phyllis MARCUS and they moved to Edgefield, Edgefield County, SC. I would almost bet the Shurley WHATLEY, Wilson WHATLEY mentioned in deeds 1770 era deeds with Jesse HUNTER in Warren County, NC are related to Edmund WHATLEY and his son, Col. Abner WHATLEY of Edgefield County, SC whose grand daughter, Junie Whatley WRIGHT (1866-1900) married Col. William Richter MUSTIN, Esq. (1857-1901) of Madison, Charles W. RICHTER Jr. and Mary Lou HUNTER's nephew. "Willie," as WRM was called, was a graduate of Mercer, State Attorney for Morgan County and GA State Representative from Morgan County, GA. Willie and Junie are buried in the New Section of the Madison City Cemetery right by my grandparents (John and Alice Daniel RICHTER) and grand uncles (Mat and AP RICHTER) and right behind the ATKINSON family plot, as I remember. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vivian Toole" <vtoole@inu.net> To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 11:58 AM Subject: [Greene] Elisha Sparks HUNTER b.c. 1802 d. 1852 BETHESDA/WHATLEY'S MILL > Hunters, especially Elisha Sparks Hunter (also E. Sparks Hunter, ESH, E. > S. > Hunter) were very active in the Bethesda Baptist Church (formerly > Whatley's > Mill)in the early to mid 1800's. One Samuel Hunter sold the land to the > church in 1815 for the present church finished in 1818. Samuel Hunter > married Charity Whatley, dau. of Ornan Whatley, in 1800 in Greene County, > Georgia. See Ornan Whatley's will recorded in Oglethorpe County. > I do not have a Hunter line to my knowledge, but I did published the > church > minutes from 1817 to 1865. The earlier minutes have been lost. > Elisha Sparks Hunter apparently died between the February 15, 1852 > conference which were signed "E S Hunter a clerk" and the July 17, 1852, > church conference minutes which are signed "H H Watts Clerk." > Between the March 20, 1852, conference church minutes and the July 17, > 1852 > conference minutes both of which are signed by "H H Watts Clerk" is this > notation... > "Bro. E S Hunter, A. Greene & Daniel Bethune Dead > On account of the pestlence prevailing in our country we have had no > preaching for three months." > I still have copies of the church minutes left. If anyone happens to be > interested in purchasing a copy please contact me privately. This church > is > located in eastern Greene County east of Union Point and north of Hwy 44 > to > Washington. poeple attended church here from surrounding counties > (Greene, > Oglethorpe, Wilkes, Taliaferro, etc. > My lines in Greene and adjoining counties are listed in the front of the > church minute book: > Durham, Reynolds, Malone, Bowles/Booles, Lindsey, Freeman, Pollard, and > Toole. > Vivian Cates, Rt. #2 Box 52-A, Alto, Texas 75925-9607 > http://www.inu.net/vcates > > > -----Original Message----- > From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com [mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com]On Behalf > Of Investorsfg@mindspring.com > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 2:26 PM > To: GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Greene] Re: Elisha Sparks HUNTER (b. 1802) - UPDATE > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Ralls Coleman Daniels Sanford > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ic.2ADI/1225.1.2 > > Message Board Post: > > It has been two years since your posting. As you probably know by now, > Elisha was married to Elizabeth Ann Ralls (not Rolls). Her father James > Hector (not Hunter) Ralls. Her mother was Cynthia Ann Coleman (not > Copeland). > > Cynthia Ann Coleman's parents were Eden Coleman (abt 1768-1817) and Nancy > Ann Daniel (1770-1828). > > Eden's father, Daniel Coleman (abt 1716-aft 1777) is my line. > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! > http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > East Georgia Genealogical Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaeggs/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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Hi Vivian, My WHATLEY, PICKARD, ANDREWS, COOPER, & WOODYs were in that area in the 1790-1830 era. Would you have any of them in your lines? Can you tell me about Whatley's Mill? Thanks, Hal McCawley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vivian Toole" <vtoole@inu.net> To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 8:58 AM Subject: [Greene] Elisha Sparks HUNTER b.c. 1802 d. 1852 BETHESDA/WHATLEY'S MILL > Hunters, especially Elisha Sparks Hunter (also E. Sparks Hunter, ESH, E. S. > Hunter) were very active in the Bethesda Baptist Church (formerly Whatley's > Mill)in the early to mid 1800's. One Samuel Hunter sold the land to the > church in 1815 for the present church finished in 1818. Samuel Hunter > married Charity Whatley, dau. of Ornan Whatley, in 1800 in Greene County, > Georgia. See Ornan Whatley's will recorded in Oglethorpe County. > I do not have a Hunter line to my knowledge, but I did published the church > minutes from 1817 to 1865. The earlier minutes have been lost. > Elisha Sparks Hunter apparently died between the February 15, 1852 > conference which were signed "E S Hunter a clerk" and the July 17, 1852, > church conference minutes which are signed "H H Watts Clerk." > Between the March 20, 1852, conference church minutes and the July 17, 1852 > conference minutes both of which are signed by "H H Watts Clerk" is this > notation... > "Bro. E S Hunter, A. Greene & Daniel Bethune Dead > On account of the pestlence prevailing in our country we have had no > preaching for three months." > I still have copies of the church minutes left. If anyone happens to be > interested in purchasing a copy please contact me privately. This church is > located in eastern Greene County east of Union Point and north of Hwy 44 to > Washington. poeple attended church here from surrounding counties (Greene, > Oglethorpe, Wilkes, Taliaferro, etc. > My lines in Greene and adjoining counties are listed in the front of the > church minute book: > Durham, Reynolds, Malone, Bowles/Booles, Lindsey, Freeman, Pollard, and > Toole. > Vivian Cates, Rt. #2 Box 52-A, Alto, Texas 75925-9607 > http://www.inu.net/vcates > > > -----Original Message----- > From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com [mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com]On Behalf > Of Investorsfg@mindspring.com > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 2:26 PM > To: GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Greene] Re: Elisha Sparks HUNTER (b. 1802) - UPDATE > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Ralls Coleman Daniels Sanford > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ic.2ADI/1225.1.2 > > Message Board Post: > > It has been two years since your posting. As you probably know by now, > Elisha was married to Elizabeth Ann Ralls (not Rolls). Her father James > Hector (not Hunter) Ralls. Her mother was Cynthia Ann Coleman (not > Copeland). > > Cynthia Ann Coleman's parents were Eden Coleman (abt 1768-1817) and Nancy > Ann Daniel (1770-1828). > > Eden's father, Daniel Coleman (abt 1716-aft 1777) is my line. > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! > http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > East Georgia Genealogical Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaeggs/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Vivian, I noticed your message on the GAGREENE-L @rootsweb. Which Pollard family are you researching? I think I had Pollards in Greene County very early in the 1800s. I am having difficulty tying my known GG-grandfather Pollard to his parents. He died at a young age and left a very short paper trail for us to follow. Any thing you are willing to share might be of help to us. Thank you. Betty Wilson Clyde, TX -----Original Message----- From: Vivian Toole [mailto:vtoole@inu.net] Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 10:59 AM To: GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Greene] Elisha Sparks HUNTER b.c. 1802 d. 1852 BETHESDA/WHATLEY'S MILL My lines in Greene and adjoining counties are listed in the front of the church minute book: Durham, Reynolds, Malone, Bowles/Booles, Lindsey, Freeman, Pollard, and Toole. Vivian Cates, Rt. #2 Box 52-A, Alto, Texas 75925-9607 http://www.inu.net/vcates -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com [mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Investorsfg@mindspring.com Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 2:26 PM To: GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Greene] Re: Elisha Sparks HUNTER (b. 1802) - UPDATE

Hunters, especially Elisha Sparks Hunter (also E. Sparks Hunter, ESH, E. S. Hunter) were very active in the Bethesda Baptist Church (formerly Whatley's Mill)in the early to mid 1800's. One Samuel Hunter sold the land to the church in 1815 for the present church finished in 1818. Samuel Hunter married Charity Whatley, dau. of Ornan Whatley, in 1800 in Greene County, Georgia. See Ornan Whatley's will recorded in Oglethorpe County. I do not have a Hunter line to my knowledge, but I did published the church minutes from 1817 to 1865. The earlier minutes have been lost. Elisha Sparks Hunter apparently died between the February 15, 1852 conference which were signed "E S Hunter a clerk" and the July 17, 1852, church conference minutes which are signed "H H Watts Clerk." Between the March 20, 1852, conference church minutes and the July 17, 1852 conference minutes both of which are signed by "H H Watts Clerk" is this notation... "Bro. E S Hunter, A. Greene & Daniel Bethune Dead On account of the pestlence prevailing in our country we have had no preaching for three months." I still have copies of the church minutes left. If anyone happens to be interested in purchasing a copy please contact me privately. This church is located in eastern Greene County east of Union Point and north of Hwy 44 to Washington. poeple attended church here from surrounding counties (Greene, Oglethorpe, Wilkes, Taliaferro, etc. My lines in Greene and adjoining counties are listed in the front of the church minute book: Durham, Reynolds, Malone, Bowles/Booles, Lindsey, Freeman, Pollard, and Toole. Vivian Cates, Rt. #2 Box 52-A, Alto, Texas 75925-9607 http://www.inu.net/vcates -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com [mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Investorsfg@mindspring.com Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 2:26 PM To: GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Greene] Re: Elisha Sparks HUNTER (b. 1802) - UPDATE This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ralls Coleman Daniels Sanford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ic.2ADI/1225.1.2 Message Board Post: It has been two years since your posting. As you probably know by now, Elisha was married to Elizabeth Ann Ralls (not Rolls). Her father James Hector (not Hunter) Ralls. Her mother was Cynthia Ann Coleman (not Copeland). Cynthia Ann Coleman's parents were Eden Coleman (abt 1768-1817) and Nancy Ann Daniel (1770-1828). Eden's father, Daniel Coleman (abt 1716-aft 1777) is my line. ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! ============================== You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/

By chance, is this Elisha Sparks Hunter possibly descended from an earlier Elisha Hunter (abt. 1735-1778), who migrated to the area of Wilmington North Carolina from Germany? This earlier Elisha Hunter was married, according the the information I have, to Margaret Stute (abt. 1740-1791). My part of this Hunter family migrated to Georgia. http://www.dkco.com/gen/gendex.html Regards, _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Daryl Coleman Garland, Texas Homepage: http://www.dkco.com/ Family History Page: http://www.dkco.com/gen/gendex.html "I am not strong enough to fall away while God is resolved to hold me" - Unknown _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ -----Original Message----- From: Investorsfg@mindspring.com [mailto:Investorsfg@mindspring.com] Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 2:26 PM To: GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Elisha Sparks HUNTER (b. 1802) - UPDATE This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ralls Coleman Daniels Sanford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ic.2ADI/1225.1.2 Message Board Post: It has been two years since your posting. As you probably know by now, Elisha was married to Elizabeth Ann Ralls (not Rolls). Her father James Hector (not Hunter) Ralls. Her mother was Cynthia Ann Coleman (not Copeland). Cynthia Ann Coleman's parents were Eden Coleman (abt 1768-1817) and Nancy Ann Daniel (1770-1828). Eden's father, Daniel Coleman (abt 1716-aft 1777) is my line.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ic.2ADI/1225.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Hi, as I posted to the GA-GREENE list, I have Hunter as middle name of James H. RALLS (1793-1834) who married Cynthia Anne COLEMAN. The younger brother of James H. RALLS was Hector RALLS. FYI, seldom have I seen a middle name of an older brother the same as the given name of a sibling. What source do you have for his middle name being Hector. According to my information, James H. RALLS was from Amherst Co., VA and his family, before that, were from Stafford County, VA. According to my information the parents of James H. RALLS were Caleb RALLS (1750-1823) and Mary LUCKEY of Amherst County, VA. What I find interesting is the following names from Amherst County, VA records -- the following persons lived adjacent to one another in Amhearst County, VA in 1788 -- "Hardin Haynes, Caleb Ralls, Jas. Carter, Chas. Crawford." You will also see these same names listed in the Will of Caleb RALLS, which follows. I would like to see what you have for the ROBINSON family that marries into this RALLS family. If they are part of the Christopher and John ROBINSON, often spelled ROBERTSON, families of Middlesex County, VA then I am really interested. 1821 WILL: transcribed by Renee Christiansen and Leone Slater Fyans. Found at court house of Amherst Co, VA; R Will items of Amherst County, Virginia, 1761-1920, 1 R wills: 5. Caleb Ralls 6:423 May 23, 1821; Dec.15, 1823; codicil of Sept. 3, 1821; codicil of Mch 21, 1821 naming exrs.: Nelson Crawford and Saml. Hansbrough; no wits to codicils. Wits.to will: Anderson Sandidge; Geo.W.Ray. Ux ,Polly-100a and mansion house; mare rec'd from her father; land to be sold; Sons, Geo. and Robertson and exrs. to handle George's part; dtr., Nancy Sebill; sons, Caleb; Hector; Jas. Dtr.,Susannah Carpenter. Codicil one gives slave to sons, Jas. & Hector. Codicil proved by Hudson M. Garland and Wm. Dillar. Nelson Crawford qual.; bdm.: Henry L. Davies. 6:547 inv. of Jan. 2, 1825: $2693.86.Isaac Rucker; Abram Carter; Lindsey Sandidge. 6:630 AA from Jan. 3, 1824- to Geo. Ralls-Campbell co. land; Robinson Rall; Eliz. Rall or Ball (?) AC shff. and acct. of M. Pendleton estate, Nov. 19, 1825. Peter P. Thorntown; Will Jopling; Jos. R. Carter. 7:330 AA from Nov. 1825; to Robertson Ralls; Sally Ralls, widow of Hector Ralls. Nov. 18, 1829. Thornton and Carter as above. 10:140 AA from May 27, 1830. Campbell co. ticket and AC tickets; Chas. P. Taliaferro, admr. of Polly Ralls and gdn of Mahala Ralls, infant; Polly's legacy in cash; Robinson Ralls in own right and gdn of Geo. Ralls- took exceptions; Crawford has not accounted for large sums; Wm. Carpenter in right of ux, Susannah, late Ralls, also took exceptions; overruled. June 18, 1839. 11:196 AA from June 1, 1832. Robertson Ralls bought slave-- much deseased. No exceptions. Dec. 18, 1843.

I went back to your highlighted web address and found the message was from John Clark. I don't know if he is on this bd. or not, but he is on one or two I am on. I was wondering if Daniel Coleman married Catherine Harris born 1742- dtr of Nathan & Catherine Walton who had other children is Greene Co., is kin to yours? Gerry Hill ----- Original Message ----- From: <Investorsfg@mindspring.com> To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 3:26 PM Subject: [Greene] Re: Elisha Sparks HUNTER (b. 1802) - UPDATE > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Ralls Coleman Daniels Sanford > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ic.2ADI/1225.1.2 > > Message Board Post: > > It has been two years since your posting. As you probably know by now, Elisha was married to Elizabeth Ann Ralls (not Rolls). Her father James Hector (not Hunter) Ralls. Her mother was Cynthia Ann Coleman (not Copeland). > > Cynthia Ann Coleman's parents were Eden Coleman (abt 1768-1817) and Nancy Ann Daniel (1770-1828). > > Eden's father, Daniel Coleman (abt 1716-aft 1777) is my line. > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! > http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ >

Hi, Most of what you state matches my information. However, how did you come up with the Hector as James RALLS's middle name? I have HUNTER and I assume the HUNTERS and the RALLS ran together, so it made sense, but I do not know what his middle name actually was. Also, where do you place the RALLS and COLEMANS before Warren County, NC. I have to think Amherst County, VA plays some part in all of this. Of greater interest to me is the DANIEL connection to this HUNTER, RALLS, COLEMAN bunch since Charles W. RICHTER's (1837-1907) younger brother, John C. (1848-1907) married Alice E. DANIEL and Charles married Mary Lou HUNTER, a DANIEL descendant. When I start seeing the same name families in parents of siblings, I tend to think "they were probably out of the same family." Now, I know who Alice's DANIEL family was and who they were related to, DNA wise. Alice's DANIEL family was out of Greene County, NC and her grandparents were Robert C. DANIEL (ABT 1765-AFT 1830) and Penelope LANE (1773-1846) of Burke County, GA.. I also know her DANIEL family are 25/25 marker DNA matches with the descendants of Capt. James DANIEL (1709-1761) and Jane HICKS of Albemarle County, VA. James and Jane's descendants moved to Granville County, NC. These included both Chesley, Josiah and James DANIEL of Granville County, NC. However, I cannot find the link between Greene and Granville County, NC and these to locations were not "just next door to each other." You also missed this. Cynthia Ann COLEMAN (1797-1869) married twice. First to James Hunter RALLS and second to Vincent SANFORD (1777-1859) They had a son, Seadman Vincent SANFORD who was, later, the Dean at UGA. I know Charles was offered the head of the mathematics department at UGA but did not want to move to Athens because of his disability. Charles was a well-known professor of mathematics at various GA colleges in the late 19th Century but he had been permanently disabled at Gettysburg on 2 Jul 1863 while in the 3rd GA. So, rolling up and down the hills of Athens in a wheelchair was not one of Charles's greatest ambitions or priorities. I assume you know what I mean, so he did not take the position at UGA and stayed in Atlanta at Cox College. BTW, Charles was my grand uncle and John and Alice my grandparents. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Investorsfg@mindspring.com> To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 3:26 PM Subject: [Greene] Re: Elisha Sparks HUNTER (b. 1802) - UPDATE > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Ralls Coleman Daniels Sanford > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ic.2ADI/1225.1.2 > > Message Board Post: > > It has been two years since your posting. As you probably know by now, > Elisha was married to Elizabeth Ann Ralls (not Rolls). Her father James > Hector (not Hunter) Ralls. Her mother was Cynthia Ann Coleman (not > Copeland). > > Cynthia Ann Coleman's parents were Eden Coleman (abt 1768-1817) and Nancy > Ann Daniel (1770-1828). > > Eden's father, Daniel Coleman (abt 1716-aft 1777) is my line. > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! > http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ralls Coleman Daniels Sanford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ic.2ADI/1225.1.2 Message Board Post: It has been two years since your posting. As you probably know by now, Elisha was married to Elizabeth Ann Ralls (not Rolls). Her father James Hector (not Hunter) Ralls. Her mother was Cynthia Ann Coleman (not Copeland). Cynthia Ann Coleman's parents were Eden Coleman (abt 1768-1817) and Nancy Ann Daniel (1770-1828). Eden's father, Daniel Coleman (abt 1716-aft 1777) is my line.

Vivian, This interesting. Jeremiah Melton DANIELL (1797-1874) was the son of William DANIELL, Sr. and Mary MELTON of Bogart, Oconee County, GA. He married Nancy Annie BURNETT, d/o Jeremiah Eugene BURNETT (1775-BEF 1827) and Rachel CROW (1779-1863) of Clarke County, GA BURNETT was from Brunswick County, NC and Rachel from Chatham County, NC. She was the d/o Stephen CROW (1749-1830) and Margaret STROUD (1757-1834) of Clarke County, GA. The BURNETTS moved through Edgefield County, SC and the DANIELLS moved through Burke on the way to Clarke County, later Oconee County, GA. I do not have any ALLENS around this bunch than I can see. I carry a Phillip ALLEN born 1740 the son of Capt. William ALLEN and Mary HUNT of Albemarle County, VA. Phillip was born in Henrico but since Mecklenburg is so close, he may have been born there and their is a lot of intermarriage between the folks in King and Queen, Middlesex and Albemarle County, VA. I do not even see how you got anything out of K&Q because there are no early records in this county to my knowledge. This Phillip married Elizabeth COLEMAN on 19 Nov 1763 in Cumberland County, VA an Elizabeth was the d/o Daniel COLEMAN. If this is the same Daniel COLEMAN I carry information on then his descendants did move to Greene County, GA, which would explain the link you show there. Otherwise, I do not have any information on this Phillip ALLEN. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vivian Toole" <vtoole@inu.net> To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 2:51 PM Subject: [Greene] ALLEN IN MECHLENBURG COUNTY, VA C. 1760'S & 170O'S > I am replying to the following query about ALLEN families in Mecklenburg > County, Virginia, in the 1760-70's era that appeared on the Edgefield > District/County, South Carolina, list. I am cross posting to several > Georgia lists as well. > My Phillip Allin (Philip Allen) S31514 received a pension under the > Pension > Act of 1832 as a Rev. War Soldier as a resident of Clarke County, Georgia. > Information in his pension claims that he was about 72 years old (b.c. > 1760). Was born in King and Queen County, Virginia. First elisted in > 1776 > in Mecklenburg County, Virginia. He was serving in South Carolina in 1781 > under General Greene and others. He apparently died in Clarke County, > Georgia, c. 1838-40. > I am not sure when he moved over into Georgia. He was probably in Wilkes > or Oglethorpe or Greene County, Georgia, prior to showing up on the Clarke > County, Georgia, taxlists on Robinson Creek in the section of Clarke > County, > Georgia, that became Oconee County, Georgia, as early as 1810. His post > office was Watkinsville where Parmenas (sp?) Haynes was postmaster. > Haynes > and a Jeremiah Daniel were his character witnesses on his pension > application. Haynes had previously appeared in Greene County, Georgia, > land > records around Woodville and Temperance Bell Crossroads (Jeremiah > Lindsey's > 200 acres of land). > In 1819 Clarke County, Georgia, he married Sarah Robinson b. c. 1790 d. > between 1870-80 Clarke County, Georgia. This was more than likely not his > first marriage. Was Robinson her maiden name or from a previous marriage? > They had several children gleaned from the census. He owned land, but > appears to have either lost it or sold it by c. 1832. > Their daughter, Mary Frances Ann Allen, m. James Crow in Clarke County, > Georgia, in 1846. These were one set of my 2-great grandparents. > Any early Robinson information would be appreciated. > Any connections to the Allens of Mecklenbury in the query below? Anyone > researching my Philip Allen? > Vivian Cates, Rt. #2 Box 52-A, Alto, Texas 75915-9607 1-936-858-3801 > http://www.inu.net/vcates > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lee and Billie Jones [mailto:tjones@camden.net] > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 8:47 PM > To: SCEDGEFI-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Compare ALLEN names on previous records to this will > > > I have some additional info. and worked it into the info. you sent on > ALLEN, > William Will Book 1, Page 15 >> Names: Wife - Ann ALLEN - Mecklenburg County Wills, 1765-1799 - > Abstracts: > By: Katherine B. Elliott. Audreys post is at the end of the message for > reference > > Billie Jones > Camden, SC > tjones@camden.net > > > I don't know how they all fit, as I don't have the William and Ann > Allen??? > > I am very interested in this Elizabeth Burnett, and who she belonged to. > > I have a Nancy Allen who married after the date on the will below to Lewis > Matthews, son of Isaac Matthews, Jr. and Anna Quarles > > RE: Anna Quarles - one researcher sent me info. stating she m. 1 Calhoun; > another said she was a Calhoun m 1) a Quarles, so I don't know about her. > I > have no primary documentation. She and her husband are named in The > Compendium > of American Genealogy, Vol ll, p. 95-96., which is no longer accepted by > DAR > as > a source due to errors. > > Shirley Nobles Erickson <shirley@htcomp.net>, PO Box 456, Covington, TX > 76636, > "Electronic," calls her Anna Quarles. She sent me some info. from the > Research > of her mother, Annabelle Pennington Nobles Stone. > > She has a Young Allen, Nancy Allen, and Drury Allen among others attached > to > one Josiah Allen > > 1 Josiah ALLEN b: 1734 Hanover Co., VA d: July 05, 1782 Ninety Six > Dist, > Edgefield Co., SC > . +Elizabeth DELOACH b: 1735 VA m: 1754 VA d: February 03, 1843 Green > Co., > GA > ..... 2 Milbury Clark ALLEN b: Abt. 1754 VA d: Bef. 1843 *** > ......... +Rubin WHITE b: Abt. 1750 m: February 23, 1772 Darlington, SC > d: > Bef. 1840 > ..... 2 Josiah* ALLEN > ..... 2 James West ALLEN **** > ..... 2 Robert ALLEN > ..... 2 Mary 'Polly' ALLEN b: Abt. 1763 d: Bef. 1850 > ..... 2 Young ALLEN > ..... 2 Drury ALLEN [see below*] > ..... 2 Nancy ALLEN b: Bet. 1770 - 1772 d: Bet. 1830 - 1860 Edgefield > Dist, > SC ** > ......... +Lewis MATTHEWS b: 1773 Edgefield Dist, SC m: 1791 Edgefield > Dist, > SC d: March 19, 1809 Edgefield Dist, SC Father: Isaac Matthews, Jr. > Mother: > Anna Quarles > ..... *2nd Husband of Nancy ALLEN: > ......... +Bailey CROUCH m: February 13, 1812 Edgefield Co, SC > > *From another post by Audrey, I wonder if this fits here: He is called > DRURY > ALLEN in the will of Aaron Etheridge who seems to be a step father: Aaron > ETHERIDGE - Will Book A, page 73, Edgefield Co, SC Judge Probate Vault - > written 25 June 1811 and recorded 7 Mar 1821 - 'I give to Nancy MATHIS > (sic), > Milbury Clark ALLEN and Drury ALLEN, three children that my wife had by > Josiah > ALLEN her first husband.' > > **She is called Nancy Mathis in the will of Aaron Etheridge who seems to > be > a > step father: Aaron ETHERIDGE - Will Book A, page 73, Edgefield Co, SC > Judge > Probate Vault - written 25 June 1811 and recorded 7 Mar 1821 - 'I give to > Nancy > MATHIS (sic), Milbury Clark ALLEN and Drury ALLEN, three children that my > wife > had by Josiah ALLEN her first husband.' > > After getting a query from John Crouch I checked census records and find > the > following: > CENSUS: 1880 Edgefield Co, The District, p. 187A-B, hh# 444/444 > Lewis Crouch 35 M Farmer 1,200 SC > Caroline Crouch 34 F SC > Henry Crouch 13 M SC > Nancy Crouch 10 F SC > Julius Crouch 8 M SC > Sarah Crouch 6 F SC > Catherine Crouch 4 F SC > Melissa Crouch 2 F SC > ** NANCY CROUCH 80 F SC [Is this Lewis Mathews' widow who married 2) > Bailey Crouch. I cannot prove this, as I don't know the children of > Bailey > Crouch. > > ***She is called Milbury Clark ALLEN in the will of Aaron Etheridge who > seems > to be a step father: Aaron ETHERIDGE - Will Book A, page 73, Edgefield > Co, > SC > Judge Probate Vault - written 25 June 1811 and recorded 7 Mar 1821 - 'I > give > to > Nancy MATHIS (sic), Milbury Clark ALLEN and Drury ALLEN, three children > that > my > wife had by Josiah ALLEN her first husband.' > > ****Scott Christie <schristie@arkansas.net> who is researching the Robert > Christie line gives the following which seems to connect them to the > Allens: > I see that James Allen, who is said to be son of Josiah and Elizabeth > Deloach Allen, owned property on Richland Creek, which is a tributary of > the > Little Saluda River and nearby to Bailey's Creek, where Robert Christie > owned > land. I have a Robert Christie who, in October of 1796, witnessed the > will > of > Josiah Allen in Colleton County, along with Aaron Etheredge. Robert and > Aaron > were neighbors in Edgefield SC, and as far as I can tell have no other > connections in Colleton District. > Robert went on to name his first son Josiah Allen Christie, so I > suspect > a > connection somewhere. I do not know the name of Robert's first wife and > Josiah > Allen Christie's mother, but have always suspected her to be a daughter of > a > Josiah Allen. > I have also read that Elizabeth went on to marry Aaron Etheridge, > presumably > after the death of Josiah Allen. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Audrey Pool" <aep@madnet.net> > To: <SCEDGEFI-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 8:17 PM > Subject: Re: Compare ALLEN names on previous records to this will > > >> Note Drury ALLEN in the will of William ALLEN of Mecklenburg Co, VA. > Also > note that one of the daughters married a BURNETT. Audrey >> >> Mecklenburg County Wills, 1765-1799 - Abstracts: By: Katherine B. > Elliott >> >> >> >> "ALLEN, William Will Book 1, Page 15 >> Names: Wife - Ann ALLEN >> >> Children: Robert ALLEN, Susanna ALLEN, Joseph ALLEN, Pines ALLEN, Nancy > ALLEN, Fanny Smith* ALLEN - Wife to raise these six youngest children. >> >> Bequest to wife - land on west side of Mountain Creek and other property > for > natural life. >> >> Children: Pleasant ALLEN, land on Mountain Creek, Grey ALLEN, horse and > 25 > pounds cash, Dolly ALLEN, 5 shillings cash, Elizabeth BURNETT 5 pounds > cash. >> >> Remainder of estate not willed above to be divided among the following > children. 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