CANDY WOULD YOU SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY MOONS OR DRAKES THEY MOVED FROM HANCOCK TO GREEN WE VISITED HANCOCK BUT TIME RAN OUT AND WE DIDN'T MAKE IT TO GREEN CO MAYBE ANOTHER DAY THANKS MARY > > From: "Candy L O'Donnell" <mizenext@sbcglobal.net> > Date: 2004/02/22 Sun PM 06:31:59 EST > To: GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Greene] If I can contribute any info on Greene County... > > I have the Book History of Greene County, GA. It is > packed full of info. Would like to help the sites out. > Candy > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > East Georgia Genealogical Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaeggs/ > > Mary Hall Riverdale,Ga

Please, please already. Please.

Hi, They were married on 3 Nov 1831. Maybe these other marriages will help you in your search. I assume those second set of names on some of these records were bondsmen. <<< Wallace, Augustus Shell, Rebecca 3-Nov 1831 GA Greene Wallace, Bartley Parker, Susan Ann 29-Sep 1836 GA Greene Wallace, Woodford Crosley, Martha Ann 11-Oct 1849 GA Greene Shell, Reuben R. Lucas, Jane 2-Jan 1843 GA Greene Parker, Aaron Williams, Mary 27-Feb 1801 GA Greene Parker, Asa J. Bates, Susan M. A. 20-Dec 1849 GA Greene Parker, Austin Williams, Esther 10-Jul 1828 GA Greene Parker, David Radmore, Lydia 30-Jan 1803 GA Greene Parker, Edwin Astin, Rebecca 11-Jan 1846 GA Greene Parker, Emanuel Austin, Polly 30-Jan 1807 GA Greene Parker, J. F. Jackson, Sarah Jane 19-Jan 1849 GA Greene Parker, Lewis Turner, Martha H. 6-Jan 1825 GA Greene Parker, Turner, Lewis, Martha H. Parker, Robert F. Simmons, Patima 25-Jul 1833 GA Greene Parker, William Nelson, Eunice 21-Feb 1818 GA Greene Crosley, C. M. Veazy, Mary 28-Jan 1847 GA Greene Crossley, Edward Drake, Harriet 19-Nov 1842 GA Greene Crossley, Edward Linch, Parmelia 1-Dec 1840 GA Greene Crossley, Edwin Wright, Nancy 24-Jun 1824 GA Greene Crossley, Wright Edwin, Nancy Crossley, Josiah Channell, Rena 30-Apr 1843 GA Greene Crossley, Lemuel Shipp, Sallie 14-Dec 1826 GA Greene Crossley, Shipp Lemuel Sallie John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Lawrence902@aol.com> To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 5:26 PM Subject: [Greene] Re: Wallace-Shell Family > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Shell, Schell, Wallace, Ellis > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Ic.2ADI/1708 > > Message Board Post: > > Looking for info on family of Augustus Wallace and Rebecca Shell married 1831 in Greene Co., Ga. > Any help appreciated.........Lawrence902@aol.com > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe please write: > GAGreene-L-Request@RootsWeb.com for list mode > or GAGreene-D-Request@RootsWeb.com for digest mode > In body of message only the word UNSUBSCRIBE > Send mail in PLAIN TEXT > >

Candy, Is there anything in the book on Davis Sherrill, Samuel Wilson Sherrill, or Warren Stone.?These are all my ancestors that resided in Greene County at some period of time. Hubert Bender Fort Smith AR -----Original Message----- From: Candy L O'Donnell [mailto:mizenext@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 5:32 PM To: GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Greene] If I can contribute any info on Greene County... I have the Book History of Greene County, GA. It is packed full of info. Would like to help the sites out. Candy ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== East Georgia Genealogical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaeggs/

None of the names are in the book. There is a Mathew Stone. Candy --- Hubert Bender <hlbender@cox-internet.com> wrote: > Candy, > > Is there anything in the book on Davis Sherrill, > Samuel Wilson Sherrill, > or Warren Stone.?These are all my ancestors that > resided in Greene > County at some period of time. > > Hubert Bender > Fort Smith AR > -----Original Message----- > From: Candy L O'Donnell > [mailto:mizenext@sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 5:32 PM > To: GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Greene] If I can contribute any info on > Greene County... > > I have the Book History of Greene County, GA. It is > packed full of info. Would like to help the sites > out. > Candy > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > East Georgia Genealogical Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaeggs/ > > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > East Georgia Genealogical Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaeggs/ >

Mrs. PIERCE: Yes, we did talk other evening when you called. For 30 minutes I listened mostly to your ranting and raving about other GA County Coordinators and Archivists and what a lousy job they were doing on their websites, all of the incorrect data they had on these websites and what a great job you and your husband were doing on your 12 county websites. Is that the conversation to which you were referring? The comment that really got me during our conversation was your comment about why folks really go to these county website -- "They want something for free!" Correct if I am wrong, again, but I thought that was the reason for these county websites or am I missing something here, again? I also said nothing to warrant your personal attack nor anything to apologize for. Maybe there was a slight misunderstanding, as relates to why the Greene County, GA archives were not showing up in the US GENWEB search engine, but I never even mentioned your husband, the new Greene County Coordinator. I also hope you are not holding your breath awaiting the apology you demanded, nor do I not think anyone is keeping your husband from doing his job, surely not me. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brenda Pierce" <ltlbit@mindspring.com> To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 2:06 PM Subject: [Greene] UNTRUE STATEMENTS > John, et all. > I am not quite sure what the problem is here, except one of "John not > knowing what he is talking about, > and not knowing what Laura was talking about". Laura was referring to the > PC tips that Tim Stowell has > been doing, and asking if they (the tips) were archived somewhere. It had > nothing to do with Greene > County's archives. > > The cc for Greene has not removed anything from the site, only added a > great deal of information, and will > continue to do so if Mr. Clarke will stop attacking him long enough to > allow him to do so. > > I thought Mr. Clarke understand after the phone conversation that I had > with him, but apparently he is continuing > to be "ignorant" of the facts. > > Please disregard Mr. Clarke's statements, he does not know what he is > talking about. Let me repeat one more > time so that everyone may understand - there are two projects - the county > site - http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagreene > and the archives - http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ga/greene/ Note: > county sites are designated on rootsweb as > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaXXXXXX and the archives are > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/XX/XXXXXX. That's how you can tell the > difference. > > The county site is handled by Chuck Pierce and the archives by Ken Johnson > (or that is what is showing on the site). > > The archives are not working because the archives person (shows Ken > Johnson) as the archives person on the > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ga/greene, has coded INCORRECT links > /greene/greene/ into his html coding. The files are still there, if you > take /greene/ out of the file name they come up. > > The archives have nothing to do with the county site that is located at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagreene > > Mr. Clarke may help alot of people on this list and others, but his lack of > knowledge in this matter and others for the past few days has caused a > great deal of unnecessary and unwarranted attacks on person's that are > attempting to place data online for free for researchers. > Mr. Clarke owes an apology to this list and to the cc that he has > wrongfully accused. > > I don't know why Mr. Clarke can not understand that the two projects are > separate, but THEY ARE. > > Lest anyone misunderstand, the county site will continue to place data > online with or without the help of Mr. Clarke. There is a world of > information to be transcribed and I believe that alot of it can be placed > online, however these attacks are not helping to achieve that, nor is it > appropriate. > > The funny part is that I am wasting a Sunday afternoon sitting here having > to respond to attacks in regards to information on "DEAD PEOPLE". This is > quite ridiculous and I ask that Mr. Clarke stop with his attacks and either > help the project or leave everyone else alone so that they can do what they > are on the list to do "genealogy". I really have no time for such as this > and regret to waste others time with having to listen to it either. > > Brenda Pierce > Regional Coordinator for Metro Region > GAGenWeb > > > > > [Original Message] > > From: John R. Clarke <jclarke@rose.net> > > To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: 2/22/04 12:25:39 PM > > Subject: Re: [Greene] Re: [GAGEN] PC tips (revised process) > > > > RE: (from Tim) -- Correct. There are no archives. If they want the tips, > > they'll have to join > > the list. > > > > Yes, it appears the new CC for Greene County has removed almost everything > > from the Greene County, GA archives. I have a list of the marriages, as > > published to the former Greene County, GA archives by a Diane Wood several > > years ago. If anyone wants it, just drop me a personal note. It is 159K > in > > size, in TXT format and scanned clean by Norton.. > > > > I do not know how accurate the marriages are in this file but they are > > better than nothing and I have never seen any marriage that I would > disagree > > with in this file. However, I would check it against the actual records > > from Greene County to see if they are accurate for critical marriages. > They > > were compiled by WOOD from the list of Pre-1850 Georgia Marriages at > > Ancestry, as I noted in my previous post. > > > > John R. Clarke > > Thomasville, GA > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Joe & Laura Schmidt" <DigMyPast@msn.com> > > To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 11:11 AM > > Subject: [Greene] Re: [GAGEN] PC tips (revised process) > > > > > > > Laura, > > > > > > Correct. There are no archives. If they want the tips, they'll have to > > join > > > the list. > > > > > > They will be posted to a web page at some point but for now, there's not > > > enough > > > to fool with. > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > At 08:03 PM 2/21/04 -0800, you wrote: > > > >Tim, I have folks begging for your tips and find nothing in the > > campaign98 > > > >archives > > > >Laura > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > > > GAGreene-L@RootsWeb.com > > > Any queries go here! > > > List Maintainer: DigMyPast@msn.com > > > Any complaints go here! > > > Please turn off your Stationery, Backrounds & HTML! > > > Messages to list in plain text only! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > > Greene County Library > > http://www.morgan.public.lib.ga.us/greene.htm > > email greene@mail.greene.public.lib.ga.us > > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > To send a message to the list please write in PLAIN TEXT to: > GAGreene-L@RootsWeb.com Do not attach files to messages! >

I would have to say "huh" at the comments below, Diane is not responsible for records that are not linked correctly or uploaded into incorrect directories, and those things happen to all of us that do uploading. She is to be commended for putting records online, and she is also not responsible for the errors that are in documents from Ancestry, census records or otherwise. Researchers should use those as a tool to find the "original source" document. The fact that errors cause people problems is due to not having or taking the time to research out the "original sourced document" to ensure that the information is correct. It is very difficult to transcribe some of the older records, and errors will prevail, no matter who or what mechanism is utilized to gather the information. That was my point to you, "original sourced documents are preferred whether they are marriages or census, etc. as I explained in detail to you". Even with that the information is not always correct, it depends upon who gave it, their reason for giving it, and the person taking the information. Again, that was my point with the marriage records. If you searched the USGenWeb records and didn't find them, then I don't understand how they are at the link below that you provided, that is USGENWEB. That is what I can not get you to understand, we do not have anything to do with the USGENWEB file space, it is its own project called the digital library. I have nothing to do with those files, and I don't have access to the USGenWeb file space. It is password protected. As far as I can tell the files were there, please address any questions regarding those to the archivist about those as I have nothing to do with those files at all, nor does the cc of Greene. Those are not in our domain. That is a separate project!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is not getting information on line that is valuable to researchers. Please go back to what you seem to have been doing before I entered the scene, helping folks on this list. You are to be commended for that!!!!!!! If we can't get back to doing genealogy with a nice overtone, then I will unsub as this is hindering Laura's list from doing genealogy, and I apologize profusely that we have interrupted that. ... have a great afternoon! "CALLING A CEASE FIRE" ..... Any questions in regard to this post, please address them to me personally, PLEASE! Thanks, Brenda Pierce > [Original Message] > From: John R. Clarke <jclarke@rose.net> > To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 2/22/04 2:56:16 PM > Subject: [Greene] Re: UNTRUE STATEMENTS > > Mrs. PIERCE, > No one benefits when you trash someone in a public forum, especially > when you call them a liar, as you did me. > . I know two things -- One, these marriage records for Greene County, GA > do not show up in the US GENWEB files because I searched all the way through > them for this file, this morning. Was it also not you that told me this > Diane WOOD had copied these marriages from Ancestry and how she had cobbled > up a lot of other GA county marriage records in the same fashion, too? > Before our conversation, I did not even know this Diane WOOD was the one who > actually submitted these records. . > Two, all you had to do was state these marriage records were located at > the Greene County, GA archives: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ga/greene/ > Which they are, I checked. > > All I can say is -- you need to read the book -- How To Make Friends And > Influence People" because you have done neither of these with me..... > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brenda Pierce" <ltlbit@mindspring.com> > To: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net>; <gagreene-l@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 2:06 PM > Subject: UNTRUE STATEMENTS > > > > John, et all. > > I am not quite sure what the problem is here, except one of "John not > > knowing what he is talking about, > > and not knowing what Laura was talking about". Laura was referring to the > > PC tips that Tim Stowell has > > been doing, and asking if they (the tips) were archived somewhere. It had > > nothing to do with Greene > > County's archives. > > > > The cc for Greene has not removed anything from the site, only added a > > great deal of information, and will > > continue to do so if Mr. Clarke will stop attacking him long enough to > > allow him to do so. > > > > I thought Mr. Clarke understand after the phone conversation that I had > > with him, but apparently he is continuing > > to be "ignorant" of the facts. > > > > Please disregard Mr. Clarke's statements, he does not know what he is > > talking about. Let me repeat one more > > time so that everyone may understand - there are two projects - the county > > site - http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagreene > > and the archives - http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ga/greene/ Note: > > county sites are designated on rootsweb as > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaXXXXXX and the archives are > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/XX/XXXXXX. That's how you can tell the > > difference. > > > > The county site is handled by Chuck Pierce and the archives by Ken Johnson > > (or that is what is showing on the site). > > > > The archives are not working because the archives person (shows Ken > > Johnson) as the archives person on the > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ga/greene, has coded INCORRECT links > > /greene/greene/ into his html coding. The files are still there, if you > > take /greene/ out of the file name they come up. > > > > The archives have nothing to do with the county site that is located at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagreene > > > > Mr. Clarke may help alot of people on this list and others, but his lack > of > > knowledge in this matter and others for the past few days has caused a > > great deal of unnecessary and unwarranted attacks on person's that are > > attempting to place data online for free for researchers. > > Mr. Clarke owes an apology to this list and to the cc that he has > > wrongfully accused. > > > > I don't know why Mr. Clarke can not understand that the two projects are > > separate, but THEY ARE. > > > > Lest anyone misunderstand, the county site will continue to place data > > online with or without the help of Mr. Clarke. There is a world of > > information to be transcribed and I believe that alot of it can be placed > > online, however these attacks are not helping to achieve that, nor is it > > appropriate. > > > > The funny part is that I am wasting a Sunday afternoon sitting here having > > to respond to attacks in regards to information on "DEAD PEOPLE". This is > > quite ridiculous and I ask that Mr. Clarke stop with his attacks and > either > > help the project or leave everyone else alone so that they can do what > they > > are on the list to do "genealogy". I really have no time for such as this > > and regret to waste others time with having to listen to it either. > > > > Brenda Pierce > > Regional Coordinator for Metro Region > > GAGenWeb > > > > > > > > > [Original Message] > > > From: John R. Clarke <jclarke@rose.net> > > > To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Date: 2/22/04 12:25:39 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Greene] Re: [GAGEN] PC tips (revised process) > > > > > > RE: (from Tim) -- Correct. There are no archives. If they want the > tips, > > > they'll have to join > > > the list. > > > > > > Yes, it appears the new CC for Greene County has removed almost > everything > > > from the Greene County, GA archives. I have a list of the marriages, as > > > published to the former Greene County, GA archives by a Diane Wood > several > > > years ago. If anyone wants it, just drop me a personal note. It is > 159K > > in > > > size, in TXT format and scanned clean by Norton.. > > > > > > I do not know how accurate the marriages are in this file but they are > > > better than nothing and I have never seen any marriage that I would > > disagree > > > with in this file. However, I would check it against the actual records > > > from Greene County to see if they are accurate for critical marriages. > > They > > > were compiled by WOOD from the list of Pre-1850 Georgia Marriages at > > > Ancestry, as I noted in my previous post. > > > > > > John R. Clarke > > > Thomasville, GA > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Joe & Laura Schmidt" <DigMyPast@msn.com> > > > To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 11:11 AM > > > Subject: [Greene] Re: [GAGEN] PC tips (revised process) > > > > > > > > > > Laura, > > > > > > > > Correct. There are no archives. If they want the tips, they'll have > to > > > join > > > > the list. > > > > > > > > They will be posted to a web page at some point but for now, there's > not > > > > enough > > > > to fool with. > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > At 08:03 PM 2/21/04 -0800, you wrote: > > > > >Tim, I have folks begging for your tips and find nothing in the > > > campaign98 > > > > >archives > > > > >Laura > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > > > > GAGreene-L@RootsWeb.com > > > > Any queries go here! > > > > List Maintainer: DigMyPast@msn.com > > > > Any complaints go here! > > > > Please turn off your Stationery, Backrounds & HTML! > > > > Messages to list in plain text only! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > > > Greene County Library > > > http://www.morgan.public.lib.ga.us/greene.htm > > > email greene@mail.greene.public.lib.ga.us > > > > > > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness > http://raogk.rootsweb.com/

I have the Book History of Greene County, GA. It is packed full of info. Would like to help the sites out. Candy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Shell, Schell, Wallace, Ellis Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Ic.2ADI/1708 Message Board Post: Looking for info on family of Augustus Wallace and Rebecca Shell married 1831 in Greene Co., Ga. Any help appreciated.........Lawrence902@aol.com

Mrs. PIERCE, No one benefits when you trash someone in a public forum, especially when you call them a liar, as you did me. . I know two things -- One, these marriage records for Greene County, GA do not show up in the US GENWEB files because I searched all the way through them for this file, this morning. Was it also not you that told me this Diane WOOD had copied these marriages from Ancestry and how she had cobbled up a lot of other GA county marriage records in the same fashion, too? Before our conversation, I did not even know this Diane WOOD was the one who actually submitted these records. . Two, all you had to do was state these marriage records were located at the Greene County, GA archives: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ga/greene/ Which they are, I checked. All I can say is -- you need to read the book -- How To Make Friends And Influence People" because you have done neither of these with me..... John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brenda Pierce" <ltlbit@mindspring.com> To: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net>; <gagreene-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 2:06 PM Subject: UNTRUE STATEMENTS > John, et all. > I am not quite sure what the problem is here, except one of "John not > knowing what he is talking about, > and not knowing what Laura was talking about". Laura was referring to the > PC tips that Tim Stowell has > been doing, and asking if they (the tips) were archived somewhere. It had > nothing to do with Greene > County's archives. > > The cc for Greene has not removed anything from the site, only added a > great deal of information, and will > continue to do so if Mr. Clarke will stop attacking him long enough to > allow him to do so. > > I thought Mr. Clarke understand after the phone conversation that I had > with him, but apparently he is continuing > to be "ignorant" of the facts. > > Please disregard Mr. Clarke's statements, he does not know what he is > talking about. Let me repeat one more > time so that everyone may understand - there are two projects - the county > site - http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagreene > and the archives - http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ga/greene/ Note: > county sites are designated on rootsweb as > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaXXXXXX and the archives are > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/XX/XXXXXX. That's how you can tell the > difference. > > The county site is handled by Chuck Pierce and the archives by Ken Johnson > (or that is what is showing on the site). > > The archives are not working because the archives person (shows Ken > Johnson) as the archives person on the > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ga/greene, has coded INCORRECT links > /greene/greene/ into his html coding. The files are still there, if you > take /greene/ out of the file name they come up. > > The archives have nothing to do with the county site that is located at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagreene > > Mr. Clarke may help alot of people on this list and others, but his lack of > knowledge in this matter and others for the past few days has caused a > great deal of unnecessary and unwarranted attacks on person's that are > attempting to place data online for free for researchers. > Mr. Clarke owes an apology to this list and to the cc that he has > wrongfully accused. > > I don't know why Mr. Clarke can not understand that the two projects are > separate, but THEY ARE. > > Lest anyone misunderstand, the county site will continue to place data > online with or without the help of Mr. Clarke. There is a world of > information to be transcribed and I believe that alot of it can be placed > online, however these attacks are not helping to achieve that, nor is it > appropriate. > > The funny part is that I am wasting a Sunday afternoon sitting here having > to respond to attacks in regards to information on "DEAD PEOPLE". This is > quite ridiculous and I ask that Mr. Clarke stop with his attacks and either > help the project or leave everyone else alone so that they can do what they > are on the list to do "genealogy". I really have no time for such as this > and regret to waste others time with having to listen to it either. > > Brenda Pierce > Regional Coordinator for Metro Region > GAGenWeb > > > > > [Original Message] > > From: John R. Clarke <jclarke@rose.net> > > To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: 2/22/04 12:25:39 PM > > Subject: Re: [Greene] Re: [GAGEN] PC tips (revised process) > > > > RE: (from Tim) -- Correct. There are no archives. If they want the tips, > > they'll have to join > > the list. > > > > Yes, it appears the new CC for Greene County has removed almost everything > > from the Greene County, GA archives. I have a list of the marriages, as > > published to the former Greene County, GA archives by a Diane Wood several > > years ago. If anyone wants it, just drop me a personal note. It is 159K > in > > size, in TXT format and scanned clean by Norton.. > > > > I do not know how accurate the marriages are in this file but they are > > better than nothing and I have never seen any marriage that I would > disagree > > with in this file. However, I would check it against the actual records > > from Greene County to see if they are accurate for critical marriages. > They > > were compiled by WOOD from the list of Pre-1850 Georgia Marriages at > > Ancestry, as I noted in my previous post. > > > > John R. Clarke > > Thomasville, GA > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Joe & Laura Schmidt" <DigMyPast@msn.com> > > To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 11:11 AM > > Subject: [Greene] Re: [GAGEN] PC tips (revised process) > > > > > > > Laura, > > > > > > Correct. There are no archives. If they want the tips, they'll have to > > join > > > the list. > > > > > > They will be posted to a web page at some point but for now, there's not > > > enough > > > to fool with. > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > At 08:03 PM 2/21/04 -0800, you wrote: > > > >Tim, I have folks begging for your tips and find nothing in the > > campaign98 > > > >archives > > > >Laura > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > > > GAGreene-L@RootsWeb.com > > > Any queries go here! > > > List Maintainer: DigMyPast@msn.com > > > Any complaints go here! > > > Please turn off your Stationery, Backrounds & HTML! > > > Messages to list in plain text only! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > > Greene County Library > > http://www.morgan.public.lib.ga.us/greene.htm > > email greene@mail.greene.public.lib.ga.us > >

John, et all. I am not quite sure what the problem is here, except one of "John not knowing what he is talking about, and not knowing what Laura was talking about". Laura was referring to the PC tips that Tim Stowell has been doing, and asking if they (the tips) were archived somewhere. It had nothing to do with Greene County's archives. The cc for Greene has not removed anything from the site, only added a great deal of information, and will continue to do so if Mr. Clarke will stop attacking him long enough to allow him to do so. I thought Mr. Clarke understand after the phone conversation that I had with him, but apparently he is continuing to be "ignorant" of the facts. Please disregard Mr. Clarke's statements, he does not know what he is talking about. Let me repeat one more time so that everyone may understand - there are two projects - the county site - http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagreene and the archives - http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ga/greene/ Note: county sites are designated on rootsweb as http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaXXXXXX and the archives are http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/XX/XXXXXX. That's how you can tell the difference. The county site is handled by Chuck Pierce and the archives by Ken Johnson (or that is what is showing on the site). The archives are not working because the archives person (shows Ken Johnson) as the archives person on the http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ga/greene, has coded INCORRECT links /greene/greene/ into his html coding. The files are still there, if you take /greene/ out of the file name they come up. The archives have nothing to do with the county site that is located at http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagreene Mr. Clarke may help alot of people on this list and others, but his lack of knowledge in this matter and others for the past few days has caused a great deal of unnecessary and unwarranted attacks on person's that are attempting to place data online for free for researchers. Mr. Clarke owes an apology to this list and to the cc that he has wrongfully accused. I don't know why Mr. Clarke can not understand that the two projects are separate, but THEY ARE. Lest anyone misunderstand, the county site will continue to place data online with or without the help of Mr. Clarke. There is a world of information to be transcribed and I believe that alot of it can be placed online, however these attacks are not helping to achieve that, nor is it appropriate. The funny part is that I am wasting a Sunday afternoon sitting here having to respond to attacks in regards to information on "DEAD PEOPLE". This is quite ridiculous and I ask that Mr. Clarke stop with his attacks and either help the project or leave everyone else alone so that they can do what they are on the list to do "genealogy". I really have no time for such as this and regret to waste others time with having to listen to it either. Brenda Pierce Regional Coordinator for Metro Region GAGenWeb > [Original Message] > From: John R. Clarke <jclarke@rose.net> > To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 2/22/04 12:25:39 PM > Subject: Re: [Greene] Re: [GAGEN] PC tips (revised process) > > RE: (from Tim) -- Correct. There are no archives. If they want the tips, > they'll have to join > the list. > > Yes, it appears the new CC for Greene County has removed almost everything > from the Greene County, GA archives. I have a list of the marriages, as > published to the former Greene County, GA archives by a Diane Wood several > years ago. If anyone wants it, just drop me a personal note. It is 159K in > size, in TXT format and scanned clean by Norton.. > > I do not know how accurate the marriages are in this file but they are > better than nothing and I have never seen any marriage that I would disagree > with in this file. However, I would check it against the actual records > from Greene County to see if they are accurate for critical marriages. They > were compiled by WOOD from the list of Pre-1850 Georgia Marriages at > Ancestry, as I noted in my previous post. > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe & Laura Schmidt" <DigMyPast@msn.com> > To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 11:11 AM > Subject: [Greene] Re: [GAGEN] PC tips (revised process) > > > > Laura, > > > > Correct. There are no archives. If they want the tips, they'll have to > join > > the list. > > > > They will be posted to a web page at some point but for now, there's not > > enough > > to fool with. > > > > Tim > > > > At 08:03 PM 2/21/04 -0800, you wrote: > > >Tim, I have folks begging for your tips and find nothing in the > campaign98 > > >archives > > >Laura > > > > > > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > > GAGreene-L@RootsWeb.com > > Any queries go here! > > List Maintainer: DigMyPast@msn.com > > Any complaints go here! > > Please turn off your Stationery, Backrounds & HTML! > > Messages to list in plain text only! > > > > > > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > Greene County Library > http://www.morgan.public.lib.ga.us/greene.htm > email greene@mail.greene.public.lib.ga.us

RE: (from Tim) -- Correct. There are no archives. If they want the tips, they'll have to join the list. Yes, it appears the new CC for Greene County has removed almost everything from the Greene County, GA archives. I have a list of the marriages, as published to the former Greene County, GA archives by a Diane Wood several years ago. If anyone wants it, just drop me a personal note. It is 159K in size, in TXT format and scanned clean by Norton.. I do not know how accurate the marriages are in this file but they are better than nothing and I have never seen any marriage that I would disagree with in this file. However, I would check it against the actual records from Greene County to see if they are accurate for critical marriages. They were compiled by WOOD from the list of Pre-1850 Georgia Marriages at Ancestry, as I noted in my previous post. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe & Laura Schmidt" <DigMyPast@msn.com> To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 11:11 AM Subject: [Greene] Re: [GAGEN] PC tips (revised process) > Laura, > > Correct. There are no archives. If they want the tips, they'll have to join > the list. > > They will be posted to a web page at some point but for now, there's not > enough > to fool with. > > Tim > > At 08:03 PM 2/21/04 -0800, you wrote: > >Tim, I have folks begging for your tips and find nothing in the campaign98 > >archives > >Laura > > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > GAGreene-L@RootsWeb.com > Any queries go here! > List Maintainer: DigMyPast@msn.com > Any complaints go here! > Please turn off your Stationery, Backrounds & HTML! > Messages to list in plain text only! > >

Laura, Correct. There are no archives. If they want the tips, they'll have to join the list. They will be posted to a web page at some point but for now, there's not enough to fool with. Tim At 08:03 PM 2/21/04 -0800, you wrote: >Tim, I have folks begging for your tips and find nothing in the campaign98 >archives >Laura

"Desiring information about the James Rutledge family residing in Greene Co. in the early 1800's. Nancy Rutledge, dau. of James and Rebecca Rutledge, mar. Wm. Davis in Greene Co. in 1801." There was a William Davis in the early 1800s in Jasper County, GA/Jones County, GA. This land is in the northern part of Jones County, GA now, but it was in Jasper County, first. Now it is in the Oconee National Forest or the Wildlife Management lands. Mary

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ic.2ADI/342.351.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks so much for your response. Any information you have will be greatly appreciated. I will happily reimburse you for copying or mailing costs. Contact me at jlbryant@sbcglobal.net and you can either forward information as enclosures or snail mail to the address I'll provide. As you probably surmised, I am descended from Benjamin Franklin Bryant (the Texas branch of the tree). I'm particularly interested in nailing down the ancestors of Nathan. We have many family legends, guesses and imagined links with little hard evidence leading back through Needham Bryan and beyond. Thanks again. Jim

Ann, As best I can tell the RUTLEDGE family was from Charleston and before that, Ireland. I would look there. In Charleston, they tie into the ALSTONS, LADSONS, SMITHS, MOORES, HEXT, GRIMKE and other early Charleston, SC families. Many of this bunch are tied in several different ways to my RICHTER family from Madison, so I keep a good track on most of these early Charleston families, especially those collateral with the RICHTERS or their collateral families. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <csadavis@friendlycity.net> To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 12:32 PM Subject: [Greene] Rutledge/ Davis in Greene Co. > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ic.2ADI/1704 > > Message Board Post: > > Desiring information about the James Rutledge family residing in Greene Co. in the early 1800's. Nancy Rutledge, dau. of James and Rebecca Rutledge, mar. Wm. Davis in Greene Co. in 1801. The Rutledge family surfaced in Putnam Co. where James died circa 1817 /1818 (will made May 1817). Widow Rebecca and some children removed to Morgan Co. after the death of James. Need to find identity of Wm.Davis and information about the family of Nancy and Wm. Siblings of Nancy Rutledge: Ruth (Rutha), Rachel, Kezzia, Wm., Thomas, Joseph and Paskel (Paschall). Any lead would be delightful. Thanks, Ann Davis > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > Greene County Library > http://www.morgan.public.lib.ga.us/greene.htm > email greene@mail.greene.public.lib.ga.us > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bryan, Hinton, Little, Lofley, Classification: Will Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ic.2ADI/342.351.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for your response. You have some of the generations confused. The Nathan you show as b. 1803 was Little's son. Melissa was Nathan & Mary Lofley Bryan's child; not Nathan & Rebecca Little's child. I believe the census taker added the t to the Bryan name at least in GA. Little Bryan and his bunch that moved to Macon Co., GA & remained there didn't add the t. For some reason, the ones that moved to TX did. Nathan the Rev. Soldier signed his will with his mark so I'm not sure he could have known if it was Bryan or Briant. I have a huge Bryan file that I'd be happy to send you-I've been working on them since 1991. My grandmother was Essie Bryan. I'm from Nathan>Little>Nathan>John Langston Bryan>Mahlon Astor Bryan>Essie Bryan's line. Here's Nathan's will -I posted on the Pike Co. GA website years ago. I haven't checked to see if it's still there. I also have all of the NC wills on the line and most of the GA. I haven't tried to get any of the ones that went on to TX. Pike County, GA Book B pages 43-45 In the name of God, Amen: I, Nathan Bryant, being in good health & in perfect mind and memory but calling to mind the uncertainty of this transitory life. I do make & ordain this my last will & testament as follows: (viz) 1st: I give and bequeath to my son Little Bryan two dollars. 2nd: I give and bequeath to my son Jesse Bryan two dollars. 3rd: I give and bequeath to my son-in-law Solomon Watson two dollars. 4th: I give and bequeath to my daughter Sally Duncan two dollars. 5th: I give and bequeath to my son John Bryan two dollars. 6th: I give and bequeath to my son Benjamin Bryan two dollars. 7th: I give and bequeath to the heirs of my son James Bryan,decd two dollars. 8th: I give and bequeath to my daughter Mary Ann King two dollars. 9th: I give and bequeath to my wife Rebecca all the balance of my property after paying all my just debts and complying with this my will during her lifetime. At her death to be equally divided between Little Bryan, Jesse Bryan, my son- in-law Solomon Watson, Sally Duncan, John Bryan, Benjamin Bryan, the heirs of James Bryan, decd & Mary Ann King. It is also my desire that Willis and Sophia, two negro slaves belonging to me shall be sold together & never to be parted during life. I do hereby appoint my sons Little and Jesse Bryan as Executors of this my last will & testament. In witness whereof I herewith set my hand & affix my seal. Signed, sealed & acknowledged in this April the 5th 1830 in the presence of us. Burwell Green his John G. Smiley Nathan Bryan Enoch Mathews mark Georgia, Pike County: I, Burwell Green, do swear that I saw Nathan Bryan sign, seal, publish & declare this writing to be & contain his last will & testament. That at the time thereof he was of sound disposing mind & memory. And that he did it freely without compulsion to the best of your [sic] knowledge and that I saw John G. Smiley & Enoch Mathews sign as witnesses to said will so help you [sic] God. Burwell Green Sworn to & subscribed in open court this 1st Sept 1834 H. G. Johnson, CCO Georgia, Pike County: I, Little Bryan, do solemnly swear that this writing contains the true last will of the within named Nathan Bryan deceased so far as I know or believe, and that I will well & truly execute the same by paying first the debts & then the legacies contained in the said will so far as his goods & chattels will thereunto extend and the law charge me: & that I will make a true & perfect inventory of all such goods & chattels so help me God Sworn to & subscribed in open court this 1st Sept 1834. Little Bryan H. G. Johnson, CCO Recorded 17th Sept 1835 H. G. Jackson, CCO This Nathan died in Pike Co. that now is part of Spalding Co., GA. Jesse son of Rev. War soldier Nathan went to Greene Co., GA. I'd like more info on that son as I have a Bryan marriage that I can't figure out where the bride fits into the family. Little's son, Magruder Bryan, married 28 Nov 1830 in Greene Co., GA a Martha Bryan. I thought she'd turn out to be Jesse's daughter, but she is not. I have a letter in my files from the 1940's that mentions how the Greene Co., Bryans and the Macon Co. ones visited frequently. Since GA marriage licenses have to be taken out in the county that the bride is from, I figured that she must be one of those Greene Co. Bryans. She was only 15 at the time of this marriage so I don't think she was previously married.

Hi, I carry William BRYAN, Sr. and Elizabeth SMITH in my files. William did not marry Elizabeth until 17 Aug 1744 at Snowfield Plantation, Bertie County, North Carolina. William was not born until 31 Oct 1724 and Elizabeth the same time year.. From this, it would look to me that your Jesse (b. 1736) was not their son. This information is from the BRYAN family and I am pretty sure it is reasonably accurate. My guess is -- Jesse was a younger son of William's father, Needham BRYAN, or one of his older sons, but not William. Or, you have your William's DOB incorrect. I do not show a Jesse as the son of William, either. I also carry the WHITFIELDS in all of this, since they are inseparable from the BRYANS. The only Sarah WHITFIELD born in that time frame and connected to these BRYANS is Sarah WHITFIELD (1749-1780) the d/o of William WHITFIELD, Jr. and Rachel BRYAN, Needham's daughter. Sarah married Col. Joseph GREEN. I also carry the HINTONS but the only HINTONS later connected to Greene County, GA came out of Wake County, NC bunch - children of Col John HINTON and Grizelle KIMBROUGH of Wake County, NC.. They do connect to the BRYANS but at the Needham BRYAN III level, later. Needham BRYAN III marries Sarah HINTON in 1768 in Johnston County, NC. So. you are probably correct in some of your stuff but I think you have your William in the wrong line. I really cannot tell where your Jesse fits in all of this because his DOB is after the children of Needham BRYAN I and his first wife, Anne RAMBEAU. However, Needham BRYAN I married three times and your William could well be one of his sons by one of these later wives. Later wives of Needham were named, Susannah HARRELL (m. 1732) and Susan WOODWARD (m. 1753), according to my information. Regardless, your Jesse's DOB puts him in the time frame to be a son of Needham BRYAN I and probably his second wife, Susannah. and not Needham's son, William BRYAN and his wife, Elizabeth SMITH. My two bits..... John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <jlbryant@sbcglobal.net> To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 12:02 AM Subject: [Greene] Re: Jesse Bryan(t) 1785-1867 > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Bryant > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ic.2ADI/342.351 > > Message Board Post: > > I don't know where Jesse's line went to, but my line descended from Nathan. Here's what I know about Jesse's ancestors: > > Jesse Bryan was born 20 October 1736 near Snowfields, Bertie County, NC to William and Betsy Smith Bryan. He married Nancy Zipporah Hinton on 3 April 1758 in Martin, NC (daughter of Major John Hinton and Sallie Smith of Raleigh NC). He died 4 Dec 1798 in Martin, NC. Nancy was born 19 May 1738 and died 30 January 1803 in Martin, NC. > > Children include: > > (1) Philomon BRYAN > (2) Nathan BRYAN > (3) Joseph BRYAN > (4) Lewis Hinton BRYAN > (5) William BRYAN > (6) Benjamin BRYAN (T) b. 1760 NC d. 1796 Jackson Co., GA m. Sarah Whitfield > (a). William Lane BRYANT/Eliza H. Trout > (b). Hugh BRYANT > (c). John BRYANT/Eliz. Crocket > (d). Martha BRYANT/John Keith > (e) Sarah BRYAN > Note: Jesse’s will named the following children: Nathan, Sarah, daughter Ferrebee, and daughter Penny Garret. Executors were Needham Bryan and Elias Bryan. > > Nathan Bryan(t) was born 16 Jun 1759 in Martin, NC to Jesse and Nancy Hinton Bryan. He married Rebecca Little on 27 Sep 1777 in NC. He died 1 Sep 1834 in Pike County, GA. Rebecca was born 15 Sep 1760 in NC and died 21 Oct 1837 in Pike County, GA. Nathan served in the Revolutionary War and is listed on the land lottery records of Wilkes County, GA. He is also listed in Lucian Lamar Knight's Roster of the Revolution pages 322 - 323. He apparently changed the name to Bryant for reasons unknown; however, he is certainly not the first ancestor to add the "t". Children include the following: > > (1) Littleton (or Little), b. 20 May 1780 in NC, d. 10 Oct 1836 in Houston County GA. m. Elizabeth McGruder 1801 in NC > (a) Nathan Bryan II b. 1803 NC, d. 1868 Marshallville, GA. m. Melissa Lofley in 1820 in NC. > (2) Jesse Hinton, > (3) Melissa (not mentioned in Nathan’s will) married a Carson and lived in Kissimmee, FL. > (4) Elias (Pike Co, GA in 1830, and Dale Co, AL in 1850) (not mentioned in Nathan’s will.) > (5) Sarah (Sally) Little Bryan, m. Allen Duncan > (6) John Lewism. Rebecca Price. She was the sister of Roxanna Price who married John's brother Benjamin. > (7) Benjamin Franklin, b. 1800 in GA, m. Roxanna Price > (8) James (died in Georgia: his son Joseph married his cousin Amanda in Texas) m . Mary Polly Price, also a sister of Roxanna’s (she is buried in Salado, TX. She later married Henry Jonson and then a Mr. Moore.) > (9) Mary Ann, m. William D. King > (10) daughter, m. Solomon Watson > > Note > > Nathan's will dated 4 May 1830 was presented for probate 1 Sep 1834. In different parts of the will, he used both the name Bryan and Bryant, but his heirs were all listed as Bryan. However, the 1830 census apparently listed the family as Bryant, and his son Benjamin Franklin definitely used the name where he came to Texas in 1834. Littleton (Little) may have remained Bryan, but he appears in GA land lottery as Briant. I don't know how many of the others kept the name, or why Nathan chose to change the spelling. > > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > If you are leaving your current ISP, please unsubscribe! > Digest GAGreene-D-request@rootsweb.com > List GAGreene-L-request@rootsweb.com > Only one word in body of message UNSUBSCRIBE > No signature/No nothing! > >

Melvin, Yes, that is correct. However, PDF should actually stand for "Protected File Document" instead of that "Portable File Document" name used for it. However is "protecting the format and information in a document" the real reason for county genealogical archives? Most all documents in most county archives are put there by persons who have family in that area and who are unrelated to the actual person who manages that archive. The information is also put there for others to use, freely, and information in PDF files is not readily usable by persons who visit the archives. Sure, they can read it but they cannot readily cut and paste it into their files. The use of PDF files in any genealogical archive sets a very bad precedent because what they are saying by their use of this PDF file format is -- the person who puts that information into the archive is the actual owner of that information and not its submitter (if they were not the same persons). They are also saying -- you can look at this information all you want but if you want to use any of it, you have to re-type yourself. This, to me, defeats the very purpose of our submission of genealogical information to a central repository, like country archives. We do not put it there for someone to lay it out in the manner they desire and then protect it via of a PDF file format. We put it there for you, me and others to use, freely. Is that not the reason we spend hours and hours typing or scanning this information and submitting it to the various county archives? I have lots of Morgan County, GA information, as some of you well know and a lot of it is in the Morgan County, GA archives.. Morgan County folks are also, for the most part, former Greene County, GA folks. The first time the archivists of Morgan County archives become protective with my submissions by putting my stuff in a PDF file format is the last time I will submit anything to that archive. I will also withdraw their right to use my copyrighted information. I guess the bottom line is -- what I do was not done for the archivists of these archives, it was done for you. And, any archivist who puts our voluntary submissions to the county archives in PDF format is not doing that for you or for others, but for themselves. Does this make sense? Call my argument, on principle, if you like, but there is enough commercialism and protectionism in genealogical circles, these days to last a thousand years. And, the usual next move after some entity gets us to submit our genealogical data to them is -- they try to find a way to "make a buck out of it." Just look at what has happened to Ancestry or even World Connect. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: Melvin Byrd To: John R. Clarke Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 11:11 PM Subject: Re: [Greene] PDF FILES If I had a file that I did not want it to be changed , Added to or deleted some of it. I would send it in a PDF file so quick as New York Minute.. I have both and use them on many occasions, to protect the information that I sent. Melvin Byrd ----- Original Message ----- From: John R. Clarke To: GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [Greene] PDF FILES Brenda, PDF files are an added expense, either in either obtaining or using. Nothing is for free in this world. The free reader Adobe will let you download is a limited version and if you want the full version, you still have to buy it from Adobe. ASCII Text and HTML is universally read by any Internet browser and browsers will open them and display them "on demand." However, to open a PDF file one needs Acrobat Reader installed on their computer but this program also takes a considerable amount of time for some old slow computers to load and then display the file, properly. It never ceases to amaze me how "newbie's" will take something simple and make it just as complex, convoluted and as difficult to use or negotiate as they can. Whether that involves the use of orange foregrounds on red backgrounds of my favorite -- dark blue foregrounds on black backgrounds. Try reading that mess, not to mention having to listen to a bunch of dirge music playing in the background at 10 decibels above the roar of a jet on takeoff. The key to the design of anything is always -- "KISS" and I hope you understand the meaning of that well-worn acronym. As for PDF files - they are anything but simple for most folks. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brenda" <ltlbit@mindspring.com> To: <GAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 2:10 PM Subject: [Greene] PDF FILES > Hello to all: > > Clarification on usage of PDF files, county sites versus archives, etc.... > > 1) The data referred to in a previous email is on the *County Site*, which is the Central Repository for Information in the USGenWeb and GAGenWeb project. The archives are the digital library for USGenWeb, their data is comrised of "text format only". The two entities are not one and the same. Chuck works the GaGenWeb *county* site. http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagreene/ > > 2) PDF Files: PDF files are portable document format files, these are read with a *FREE* viewer (Adobe Acrobat Reader) available to anyone at http://www.adobe.com. There has never been a charge for the READER version of Adobe Acrobat Reader. There is a charge to purchase their program which "creates" PDF files. > > The VIRTUES OF PDF FILES: > 1) They do not create an extremely large file size if one utilizes them correctly. > 2) They allow the reader to view them in a SIZE that is correct for their vision (unless the capability is turned off by scripts inside the document), which are not with the documents on the GAGenWeb Greene County site. > > With older people viewing documents, SIZE OF TEXT does matter, it is a sad thing, but as we age our eye sight seems to age with us, thus PDF files give a great deal more sizing ability to the person viewing it. It does not require a BLIND VIEWER to blow up the size of the text to a "readable size". A simple click on the size 100% - 200% etc. > > 3) "FIND" Features - The binoculars on the Adobe Acrobat Software allow you to type in a name, or any other text so that you can quickly find what you are looking for. The "Bookmarks" tab on the left allows the creator the ability to quickly bookmark items so that someone can quickly click on a large document (index) to view a specific section (similar to an indexed hyperlink index). > > It is also a preference to have "original sourced documents" on the sites whenever feasible to do so. > > It is also the position of the USGenWeb that the coordinators have the ability to create their sites as they see fit as long as they follow the project guidelines. Please understand that this county coordinator lives in Fulton County, not in Greene County, and is purchasing microfilms and traveling to Greene County, Archives, library, etc. to assist researchers in this county by putting information on this site. This is at his expense, and as such should he not be allowed to choose the method of which he puts up data that he transcribes? If you utilize Ancestry to view census records and other documents, they have viewers that you download, and you are "paying a subscription fee" to access those, so when something is provided *free* why should the person not be allowed the right to utilize their preferred method to post it. This information is not costing anyone anything to view the information, the viewer is *free*. > > Further, PDF files are an inevitable fact of life, a great deal of software that you purchase today comes with the instructions in a pdf file, and most documents that you download in regards to products in your home, lawnmower, refrigerator, car, etc. come to you via downloads of pdf files. A great deal of the time you do not realize the document is a pdf file because it opens in your browser window so quickly you don't see the application software opening. > > The BIG ADVANTAGE OF PDF is that everyone can read them and view them the "same" way. WYSIWYG - unlike html documents that are viewed differently according to which browser of system you are using. What looks and reads really well in Internet Explorer may look and read terrible in Netscape, or other browsers. In addition, most computers come equipped with Adobe Acrobat Reader, it was installed on the laptop that I have when it was purchased, and the updates are free on Adobe's website. > > As far as "protecting the document", yes there are ways to circumvent such, as hijacking the image, if that is what one is after, but I personally believe people want to view the data and if they are viewing it to "steal" it and put it somewhere else, then they are the sad ones. Protection of files does prevent the files from being salvaged by a group that will charge people to view them, which was done on several of our projects in the past couple of years, people were sent emails to purchase this wonderful system that would allow them access to Geneology data and then the links went to OUR sites, which are free for everyone to visit, but the visitor had paid a fee to a company that charged them to access their site (which only had other people's transcriptions that were already available for free). The saddest part is that although they went to jail, they are apparently back at it again as some people have received the same type of emails in recent weeks. > > My main point to all of this is that there is no charge for Adobe Acrobat Reader to view the files, if someone does not have it installed, it is available for free, and the downloading and installation of the file is not complex at all. If someone can use the internet and email, they can certainly download and install the adobe acrobat reader file. > > I hope this provides some clarification to the message below, and please do provide constructive feedback to Chuck in re to the site, but please also remember that there are not people knocking down our doors to do websites for free, to spend their own money to purchase documents to transcribe and put online, especially when it has nothing to do with their own research. There is a great deal of time spent on maintaining *data rich* sites, and our coordinators are to be commended for their hard work and efforts. > > Lastly, one person can "never" get all the data online by transcribing it themselves, so please do submit some of your research to the site so that others can benefit as well. Good deeds do not go unnoticed, and the repayment just may be the find of a cousin or relative that you do not know about. > > Good luck to all of you with your research! > > Brenda Pierce > ASC/RC/CC GaGenWeb > AKA Wife to Chuck Pierce > > > > > > <BOLD> Brenda </Bold> > > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== > If you are leaving your current ISP, please unsubscribe! > Digest GAGreene-D-request@rootsweb.com > List GAGreene-L-request@rootsweb.com > Only one word in body of message UNSUBSCRIBE > No signature/No nothing! > > ==== GAGREENE Mailing List ==== If you are leaving your current ISP, please unsubscribe! Digest GAGreene-D-request@rootsweb.com List GAGreene-L-request@rootsweb.com Only one word in body of message UNSUBSCRIBE No signature/No nothing!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bryant Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ic.2ADI/342.351 Message Board Post: I don't know where Jesse's line went to, but my line descended from Nathan. Here's what I know about Jesse's ancestors: Jesse Bryan was born 20 October 1736 near Snowfields, Bertie County, NC to William and Betsy Smith Bryan. He married Nancy Zipporah Hinton on 3 April 1758 in Martin, NC (daughter of Major John Hinton and Sallie Smith of Raleigh NC). He died 4 Dec 1798 in Martin, NC. Nancy was born 19 May 1738 and died 30 January 1803 in Martin, NC. Children include: (1) Philomon BRYAN (2) Nathan BRYAN (3) Joseph BRYAN (4) Lewis Hinton BRYAN (5) William BRYAN (6) Benjamin BRYAN (T) b. 1760 NC d. 1796 Jackson Co., GA m. Sarah Whitfield (a). William Lane BRYANT/Eliza H. Trout (b). Hugh BRYANT (c). John BRYANT/Eliz. Crocket (d). Martha BRYANT/John Keith (e) Sarah BRYAN Note: Jesse’s will named the following children: Nathan, Sarah, daughter Ferrebee, and daughter Penny Garret. Executors were Needham Bryan and Elias Bryan. Nathan Bryan(t) was born 16 Jun 1759 in Martin, NC to Jesse and Nancy Hinton Bryan. He married Rebecca Little on 27 Sep 1777 in NC. He died 1 Sep 1834 in Pike County, GA. Rebecca was born 15 Sep 1760 in NC and died 21 Oct 1837 in Pike County, GA. Nathan served in the Revolutionary War and is listed on the land lottery records of Wilkes County, GA. He is also listed in Lucian Lamar Knight's Roster of the Revolution pages 322 - 323. He apparently changed the name to Bryant for reasons unknown; however, he is certainly not the first ancestor to add the "t". Children include the following: (1) Littleton (or Little), b. 20 May 1780 in NC, d. 10 Oct 1836 in Houston County GA. m. Elizabeth McGruder 1801 in NC (a) Nathan Bryan II b. 1803 NC, d. 1868 Marshallville, GA. m. Melissa Lofley in 1820 in NC. (2) Jesse Hinton, (3) Melissa (not mentioned in Nathan’s will) married a Carson and lived in Kissimmee, FL. (4) Elias (Pike Co, GA in 1830, and Dale Co, AL in 1850) (not mentioned in Nathan’s will.) (5) Sarah (Sally) Little Bryan, m. Allen Duncan (6) John Lewism. Rebecca Price. She was the sister of Roxanna Price who married John's brother Benjamin. (7) Benjamin Franklin, b. 1800 in GA, m. Roxanna Price (8) James (died in Georgia: his son Joseph married his cousin Amanda in Texas) m . Mary Polly Price, also a sister of Roxanna’s (she is buried in Salado, TX. She later married Henry Jonson and then a Mr. Moore.) (9) Mary Ann, m. William D. King (10) daughter, m. Solomon Watson Note Nathan's will dated 4 May 1830 was presented for probate 1 Sep 1834. In different parts of the will, he used both the name Bryan and Bryant, but his heirs were all listed as Bryan. However, the 1830 census apparently listed the family as Bryant, and his son Benjamin Franklin definitely used the name where he came to Texas in 1834. Littleton (Little) may have remained Bryan, but he appears in GA land lottery as Briant. I don't know how many of the others kept the name, or why Nathan chose to change the spelling.