The Ellijay Railroad was chartered in 1854 to construct a line from Marietta to Murphy, NC. In 1859 the name was changed Marietta, Canton and Ellijay and in 1874 to the Marietta and North Georgia. Construction of the line to Ellijay was completed in 1874. About 1894 it joined with a line from Knoxville and became the Atlanta, Knoxville and Northern which was purchased by the L&N (now CSX) in 1902. In 1906 the L&N built the more direct line from Etowah to Cartersville through Chatsworth and this line was abandoned as a mainline. In 1987 the portion from Marietta to Ellijay was sold to the Georgia Northeastern. It is possible that the Gilmer sons could have been involved in the construction of the line. The only rail connection from Ellijay to Blount County, AL would have been either south through Marietta ar north through Knoxville. There was never any east - west connection, Fort Mountain and a few other topographical obstacles. Dennis Dover wrote: >Does anyone have any knowledge of the railroads in Gilmer County ca 1850 + ? >Two Gilmer sons ended up in Blount County, Alabama working for the LN & R >railroad. I suspect but don't know that there was a line connection in >Gilmer. Thanks for any help. > > > >Dennis > > > >==== GAGILMER Mailing List ==== >list manager >gagilmer-admin@rootsweb.com > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

>From what I read for that time period, you would have to go over the mountain and catch the train in Dalton. Pat/NJ

Does anyone have any knowledge of the railroads in Gilmer County ca 1850 + ? Two Gilmer sons ended up in Blount County, Alabama working for the LN & R railroad. I suspect but don't know that there was a line connection in Gilmer. Thanks for any help. Dennis

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I am researching the Chastain family of Gilmer Co., GA. What I need to know is who are the Chastain men that have wills and probate records on file in the Gilmer Co., Court house before 1850. I am pretty sure that my James W. Chastain descends from one of these men. Can someone please help me. Calvin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com

Good morning, I just wanted to remind everyone that the Prater's Mill Country Fair is this weekend. Everyone that will be in the area should come out and enjoy the weekend at the Mill. Lots of craftsmen and craftwomen and lots of good cooking combined with plenty of entertainment will make a wonderful family outing. The old mill is on the National Register of Historic Places so it would be a great history lessons for the younguns. Come on out and join us! Paula http://pratersmill.org/ {for more info}

Does any one know of a Gaddis marrying a Ratcliff? Around in the later 1800's in Gilmer Co., Ga. Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Dover" <ddover1793@earthlink.net> To: <GAGILMER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 10:02 PM Subject: RE: [GAGILMER] RACKLEY/RATLIFF/RACKLIFF/RATCLIFF, etc in Gilmer Co GA > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AslanJ@aol.com [mailto:AslanJ@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 6:06 PM > To: GAGILMER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GAGILMER] RACKLEY/RATLIFF/RACKLIFF/RATCLIFF, etc in Gilmer Co GA > > I would love to know if there is anyone still in Gilmer Co who may be > descended from this RATLIFF family. (That Family name was spelled SO many > ways, but I have spelled them all in one way in my file to keep myself from > working to hard to find them when I am working on them.) > > Judy, these families seem to have been very close. > > 1850 Buncombe County, North Carolina M432-622 > > Sheet 223A (Ancestry Image ) > > July 29, 1850 > > #372/372 > > Thos Radcliff 38 [1812] M W Farmer NC > James 04 [1846] M W NC > Caesar? 1m [1850] M W NC > Harriet 07 [1853] F W NC > Mary 25 [1825] F W NC > > Next door neighbor to Frederick and Margaret Dover in 1860 Gilmer County, > Georgia. > > #373/373 > > Benjn Radcliff 67 [1783] M W None NC > Elizabeth [Rogers?] 64 [1786] F W NC > John 23 [1827] M W NC > > #374/374 > > J. A. Dover 27 [1823] M W Farmer NC > Penny 38 [1812] F W NC > Hillary J. 07 [1843] F W NC > Martha M. 04 [1846] F W NC > > Jason A. Dover son of Frederick and Margaret Dover. Gilmer County, Georgia > in 1860 and Clay County, North Carolina in 1870 and 1880. White County, > Georgia by 1900. > > 1860 Gilmer County, Georgia Census M653-124 > > Subdivision No. 33, June 2, 1860 > > Sheet 5A & 5B (Ancestry Image 5 & 6) > > #41/41 > > Jason A. Dover 38 [1822] M - NC Farmer Son of Fred & Margaret > Dover? > Perry Dover 43 [1817] F - NC > Hilery J. 16 [1844] F - NC > Martha M. 12 [1848] F - NC > > Note: Jason went to Hayesville in Clay County, North Carolina by 1870 and is > found in the 1870 and 1880 census. Was in White County, Georgia in 1900. > Martha M. Dover Curtis is living near Jason until 1900. Possible son of > Frederick & Margaret Dover. See notes for David F. Dillingham below. Did > Jason & David come to Gilmer County together from Buncombe County, North > Carolina? > > Sheet 34 > > #254/244 > > Dillin Dover 25 [1835] M - NC Farmer Son of Fred & Margaret Dover > Elizabeth 22 [1838] F GA Nee Helton > Lucinda C. 04 [1856] F GA > Margaret E. 02 [1858] F GA > Infant 1M [1850] F GA > Bailey Dover 30 [1830] M - NC Farmer Son of Fred & Margaret Dover > Jane 27 [1833] F - NC Nee James > Margaret C. 06 [1854] F GA > John McD 03 [1857] M GA > Louisa J. 01 [1859] F GA > > #256/246 > > Frederick Dover 63 [1797] M - SC Farmer > Margaret 63 [1797] F - NC > > See 1850 Buncombe County, North Carolina census. > > #257/247 > > Rufus Ratcliff 46 [1814] M - NC Farmer > Margaret J. 19 [1841] F - NC House Keeper > Mary C. 18 [1842] F - NC > Hannah A. 16 [1844] F - NC > Andrew B. 11 [1849] M - NC > James E. 09 [1851] M - NC > Charles W. 03 [1857] M GA > Nelly Gentry 21 [1839] F - NC > Washington 03 [1857] M GA > > Sheet 35 & 36 > > #262/251 > > Thomas Ratcliff 48 [1806] M - NC > Mary 37 [1823] F - NC > Harriett E. 17 [1843] F - NC > James N? 14 [1846] M - NC > William R. 11 [1849] M NC > Benjamin 08 [1852] M GA > Elizabeth J. 06 [1854] F GA > Laura A. 04 [1856] F GA > Eliza S. 02 [1858] F GA > Thomas A. 01 [1859] M GA > > Note: Thomas Ratcliff was the next door neighbor of Jason Dover in the 1850 > Buncombe County, North Carolina census. See Sheet 223A. > > > > > > ==== GAGILMER Mailing List ==== > list manager > gagilmer-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I checked the 1860 census of Gilmer Co. and fournd William P. Milton 25 Merchant born N. C. Nancy C. Milton 19 born N. C. P. H. Milton 21 clerk I assume that William and Nancy are "just" married as they have no children. P. H. Milton is probably a younger brother living with Willian and his wife. Milton, William P. -- Elected 1st Lieutenant of Company D, 11th Regiment Georgia Infantry July 3, 1861. Resigned, having been elected Captain of Company I, 39th Regiment Georgia Infantry, July 14, 1862. Resignation accepted July 30, 1862. Captured at Vicksburg, Mississippi July 4, 1863, and paroled there July 8, 1863. Elected Lieutenant Colonel April 9, 1865. Surrendered at Greensboro, North Carolina April 26, 1865. The above is in the military records file. Also in the 60 census is " William H. Milton 75 Physician born France Elizabeth S. wife age 54 born S. C. L. D 1`7 male Elizabeth L. 14 Martha L. Bird 15 There is also a Sarah minton age 60 born N. C. and Mary Minton age 48 born N. C. living with the Jessee and Elizabeth Harper family In the 1850 census: Willian H. Milton 65 Physician Born G. B. Elizabeth L. 43 born S. C. William P. age 14 Student Bron N. C. Pinckney H. age 10 Lafayette D age 7 Elizabeth L. age 4 also living with the family is: William W. West 24 born N. C. Doctor M. West age 20 both the West men are listed as grocer In the marriage records: L. D. Melton (Lafayette D.) wed Margaret E. Williams 27 Nov 1869 P. H. Melton (Pinckney H.) wed N. C. Williams 31 Dec 1865 William P. Melton wed Nancy C. Roberds 28 Nov 1858 Marcene Oxford Banks and Loudermilk researcher

I would love to know if there is anyone still in Gilmer Co who may be descended from this RATLIFF family. (That Family name was spelled SO many ways, but I have spelled them all in one way in my file to keep myself from working to hard to find them when I am working on them.) My husband's grandmother was Mary Jelillie RATLIFF, but her name was spelled RACKLIFF in her Marriage Bond, while her brother's names were spelled as RATLIFF in the same Marriage Bond, as bondsman and witness. I have finally found who she descends from, but we would love to find some other members of this family. Mary was in the 1870 census in Ellijay, Gilmer Co, GA, but they moved to Alabama at some point after that. She married John Melton CANANT in Alabama and they moved on to TX because a couple of Mary's brothers had been either badly wounded or killed in the Steel Mill in AL. She didn't want to see her sons work there. She also had a younger brother named ADOLPHUS RATLIFF, who disappeared at some point from AL, and no one ever heard from him again. We would also love to know what happened to him if anyone knows. I am sending 3 generations (not all of what I have), so that those on this list can see the names from Gilmer Co. I already know that there were some RATLIFF/RACKLEY families in Gilmer who came from SC to GA, but our line came from Buncombe Co, NC to Gilmer Co. I suspect that they were kin somehow. Thos listed under the unnamed Ratliffs may or may not have been from our line. If I have them in error, please let me know. Sincerely, Judith Presnell Canant (Judy) Hendersonville, NC Descendants of Benjamin Ratliff, Jr 1 Benjamin RATLIFF, Jr b: Bet. 1783 - 1785 in Of Perquimans MM, NC to Pasquotank MM, to Back Crk MM, Randolph Co, NC (age 67, must have moved in this year to Buncombe) (no occ. or real estate) (RADCLIFF) d: Aft. 1850 in Was in Buncombe Co, NC, 1850 Census, age 67, next to son J. Thos. (did he migrate to Gilmer Co, GA or stay in NC?) Burial: NC or GA .+Elizabeth ROGERS b: Bet. 1785 - 1786 in NC (age 64 in 1850 census) m: in Randolph Co, NC (Rufus, Richard, Wm R, sons here - Thomas lived near them in GA) d: Aft. 1850 in Was in Buncombe Co, NC, 1850 Census (did she migrate to Gilmer Co, GA or stay in NC?) Father: Rogers ...2 Louisa RATLIFF b: Bet. 1803 - 1804 in Randolph Co, NC (census records had name as Alverton) d: Abt. 1880 in Was in Buncombe Co, NC, 1850 Census, age 46, with husband and children ......+James HAYES b: Abt. 1800 in NC - Farmer $700 m: Bet. 1830 - 1831 in NC (time frame is my guess-JPC) d: Aft. 1850 in Was in Buncombe Co, NC, 1850 Census, age 50, with wife and children ........3 James M HAYES b: Abt. 1832 in NC - Laborer, aged 18 in 1850 census d: Aft. 1850 in Was in Buncombe Co, NC, 1850 Census ........3 Benjamin T HAYES b: Abt. 1835 in NC - Laborer- aged 15 in 1850 d: Aft. 1850 in Was in Buncombe Co, NC, 1850 Census ........3 Hillary J HAYES b: Abt. 1837 in NC -Laborer - aged 13 in 1850 d: in Was in Buncombe Co, NC, 1850 Census ........3 Marcius L HAYES b: Abt. 1840 in NC - Laborer - aged 10 in 1850 d: in Was in Buncombe Co, NC, 1850 Census ........3 Merit A HAYES b: Abt. 1847 in NC - aged 3 in 1850 d: in Was in Buncombe Co, NC, 1850 Census ........3 Mary E HAYES b: Abt. 1833 in NC - aged 17 in1850 d: Aft. 1850 in Was in Buncombe Co, NC, 1850 Census ........3 Harriet E HAYES b: Abt. 1834 in NC - Laborer - aged 16 in 1850 d: Aft. 1850 in Was in Buncombe Co, NC, 1850 Census ........3 Martha E HAYES b: Abt. 1839 in NC - Laborer - aged 11 in 1850 d: in Was in Buncombe Co, NC, 1850 Census ...2 Peter W RATLIFF b: Abt. 1805 in Randolph Co, NC (He may be the Peter who m. Frances\\, of Wilkinson Co) d: in He may have died or have moved down to Gilmer Co, GA with siblings in 1850 ...2 Elizabeth RATLIFF b: Abt. 1809 in Randolph Co, NC (she may well be the Eliz born 22 Mar 1809 who m. John Henry Howell) ...2 Rufus RATLIFF b: Bet. 1810 - 1813 in Randolph Co, NC - Of Buncombe Co, NC - Farming $150 $250 (he was Grantor of land in Buncombe in 1849 - see notes) d: Aft. 1870 in Was in Ellijay PO, Gilmer Co, GA in (1850, Dist. Ridgeway, Gilmer Co)-1870 census, aged 60, Not with wife and son in 1900 census ......+Martha b: Abt. 1813 in NC - m: in All children were born in NC, so they didn't arrive to Gilmer Co, GA until between 1849-1850 d: Aft. 1850 in Was in Gilmer Co, GA in 1850 census ........3 Sarah A RATLIFF b: Abt. 1832 in NC d: in Was in Gilmer Co, GA in 1850 census ........3 Eltima RATLIFF b: Abt. 1833 in NC d: in Was in Gilmer Co, GA in 1850 census ........3 Hillery H RATLIFF b: Abt. 1834 in NC - Farmer in 1850 d: in Was in Gilmer Co, GA in 1850 census ...........+Caroline CRUTCHFIELD b: Bet. 1828 - 1840 in Of Gilmer Co, GA (age is guess) m: August 15, 1858 in Gilmer Co, GA ........3 Margaret RATLIFF b: Abt. 1836 in NC d: in Was in Gilmer Co, GA in 1850 census ........3 Mary S RATLIFF b: Abt. 1838 in NC d: in Was in Gilmer Co, GA in 1850 census ........3 Hanah A RATLIFF b: Abt. 1844 in NC d: in Was in Gilmer Co, GA in 1850 census ........3 A G RATLIFF b: Abt. 1846 in GA (Rackley) (He lived next to Richard, and was either son or nephew) d: Aft. 1870 in Was in Ellijay PO, Gilmer Co, GA in 1870 census ...........+Catherine b: Abt. 1847 in NC - Keeping house in 1870 d: in Was in Ellijay PO, Gilmer Co, GA in 1870 census ........3 Martha M RATLIFF b: Abt. 1846 in NC d: in Was in Gilmer Co, GA in 1850 census ........3 Andrew B RATLIFF b: Abt. 1849 in NC - Farming $100 $100 d: Aft. 1870 in Was in Ellijay PO, Gilmer Co, GA in 1870 census, aged 21 ........... +Bethi b: Abt. 1852 in GA - Keeping House in 1870 d: in Was in Ellijay PO, Gilmer Co, GA in 1870 census, age 18 ........3 James E RATLIFF b: Abt. 1850 in GA - Farming $100 $100 d: in Was in Ellijay PO, Gilmer Co, GA in 1870 census, age 20 ........... +Martha b: Abt. 1850 in GA - Keeping House in 1870 d: in Was in Ellijay PO, Gilmer Co, GA in 1870 census, age 20 ...*2nd Wife of Rufus RATLIFF: ......+Nancy R b: December 1841 in GA - Keeping House in 1870 (father b GA, mother b SC) m: Bef. 1861 in (I have not proof on AG and AB but I feel sure they are sons here-JPC d: Aft. 1900 in in Ellijay PO, Gilmer Co, GA in 1870 census, aged 28, living in Gilmer Co, GA with son, John in 1900 census ........3 William WILSON b: Abt. 1861 in GA - he was probably from first marriage of Nancy R d: in Was in Ellijay PO, Gilmer Co, GA in 1870 census. age 9 ........3 Nancy R RATLIFF b: Abt. 1865 in Ga d: in Was in Ellijay PO, Gilmer Co, GA in 1870 census, age 5 ........3 Lolivar (Tolmer?) R RATLIFF b: January 1867 in GA - Farmer (parents b in NC and GA) d: Aft. 1900 in Was in Gilmer Co, GA in 1900 census, lived 2 doors from mother and brother ........... +Jesse E, W Of Lolivar R Ratliff b: September 1874 in TN (Father born "Canadis," mother born GA m: in Maried 6 yrs in 1900 census, 4 children, all living d: Aft. 1900 in Was in Gilmer Co, GA in 1900 census ........3 Feriby D RATLIFF b: Abt. 1869 in Ga d: in Was in Ellijay PO, Gilmer Co, GA in 1870 census, age 1 ........3 John RATLIFF b: November 1871 in GA (parents born NC & GA) d: Aft. 1900 in Was in Gilmer Co, GA in 1900 census ...2 Annie RATLIFF b: Abt. 1811 in Buncombe Co, NC ...2 Demarius RATLIFF b: Abt. 1812 in Buncombe Co, NC ...2 James Thomas (Thomas) RATLIFF, Sr b: Bet. 1812 - 1815 in Buncombe Co, NC (age 38) Farmer- $1500 (RADCLIFF) d: Bet. 1870 - 1880 in Was in Buncombe Co, NC, 1850 Census, in Ellijay PO, Gilmer Co, GA by 1853 & there in 1870 ......+Mary E WHITESIDE b: Abt. 1825 in Of Buncombe Co, NC (they were likely in Blairsville, GA when her father died) m: Bef. 1843 in NC d: Aft. 1866 in Was in Buncombe Co, NC, 1850 Census - died in GA aft 1866 Father: John B Whiteside Mother: Catherine M ........3 Harriet "Hattie" RATLIFF b: Abt. 1843 in NC- Was keeping house for father in Ellijay, Gilmer Co, GA in 1870 d: in Was in Buncombe Co, NC, 1850 Census, in Ellijay PO, Gilmer Co, GA in 1870, aged 27 ........3 James RATLIFF b: Abt. 1846 in NC - to Gilmer Co, GA aft 1850 d: in Was in Buncombe Co, NC, 1850 Census age 4 with Daddy ...........+Martha LOWE b: in Of Gilmer Co, GA (age is guess) m: December 24, 1868 in Gilmer Co, GA (I presume it is this James, as he is in same county) ........3 Cadius W "Cade" RATLIFF b: Abt. 1850 in NC d: in Was in Buncombe Co, NC, 1850 Census, age 1 month ........3 Jane RATLIFF b: Bet. 1853 - 1860 in GA - assisting in house d: in Was in Ellijay PO, Gilmer Co, GA in 1870 census, age 17 ........3 Laura A RATLIFF b: Abt. 1855 in GA - assisting in house, 1870 census; was HH in 1880 census with siblings (It may have been another younger Laura who married Watkins-?) d: Bet. 1890 - 1891 in Gilmer Co, GA - Was in Ellijay PO, Gilmer Co, GA in 1870 census, age 15 ........... +[1] James Tyler WATKINS b: October 25, 1844 in Long Creek, Pickens Co, SC, then of Gilmer Co, GA (age is guess) m: July 23, 1887 in Gilmer Co, GA d: December 11, 1902 in Anderson, Anderson Co, SC Burial: December 13, 1902 South Memorial Cemetery, Anderson, Anderson Co, SC ........3 Eliza RATLIFF b: Abt. 1856 in GA - assisting in house d: in Was in Ellijay PO, Gilmer Co, GA in 1870 census, age 14 ........3 Thomas "Tom" RATLIFF, Jr b: Abt. 1859 in GA - works on farm d: in Was in Ellijay PO, Gilmer Co, GA in 1870 census, aged 11 ........3 George Gastin RATLIFF b: September 1861 in Ellijay, Gilmer Co, GA - Works on Farm in 1870, (He says both parents b NC) Witnessed marriage of sister Mary in Cullman Co, AL d: Bef. January 28, 1915 in Blount Co, AL- was there in 1900 census, (A George Ratliff d there & was in S Dem. paper) ........... +Artie Le b: January 1870 in AL (Father b TN, mother b. AL) m: Bet. 1887 - 1888 in (time frame is guess) d: Aft. 1900 in Was in Arkadelphia Precinct, Blount Co, AL in 1900 census ........3 Mary Jelillie RATLIFF b: September 06, 1865 in Gilmer Co, GA (Parents born in NC) d: June 24, 1929 in LaMarque, Galveston Co, TX at 9 pm (Was in 2 Ward, Jefferson Co, AL in 1900 census) Burial: Galveston Mem Pk, Hitchcock, TX ...........+John Melton CANANT b: January 26, 1865 in Walker Co, AL - Mechanic/Farmer (this area was, later, Cullman Co) m: December 07, 1884 in Cullman Co, AL - M. bond made Dec 6, 1884-Name sp. RACKLIFF in m recds, in 1900 census, married 14 yrs, 7 ch, 5 living d: March 11, 1953 in Texas City, Galveston Co, TX (Jefferson Co, Al, precinct 33, Bessemer in 1900 census) Burial: Galveston Mem Pk, Hitchcock, TX Father: William "Grandpaw" Canant, CSA Mother: Amanda Missouri "Mandy" Yeilding ........3 Adolphus RATLIFF b: Abt. 1866 in Ellijay PO, Gilmer Co, GA d: in Was in Ellijay PO, Gilmer Co, GA in 1870 census - went West & never heard from again ...2 Alpheus R (Alvelton) RATLIFF b: Abt. 1813 in Randolph Co, NC -Farmer $1500 (census records had name as Alverton) d: 1885 in He was in Buncombe Co, NC in 1850 census, age 37 ......+Jane JONES b: Abt. 1814 in Randolph Co, NC (Elizabeth Garman, age 43, NC, lived w/them in 1850 census) m: Bet. 1829 - 1830 in (My own guess of m. date) d: Aft. 1850 in She was in Buncombe Co, NC in 1850 census, age 36 ........3 Frank (Francis) RATLIFF b: Abt. 1830 in NC - Laborer (A Francis M Ratliff was in 62d Reg, NC Infantry C) d: Aft. 1850 in Was in Buncombe Co, NC, in 1850 census, aged 20 ........3 Thomas RATLIFF b: Abt. 1832 in NC - Laborer d: Aft. 1850 in Was in Buncombe Co, NC, in 1850 census, aged 18 ........3 Fidilis RATLIFF, C S A b: Abt. 1840 in NC (60 Reg, NC INfantry E) d: in Was in Buncombe Co, NC, in 1850 census, aged 10 ........3 Laura C RATLIFF b: Abt. 1843 in NC d: in Was in Buncombe Co, NC, in 1850 census, aged 7 ...2 Sarah RATLIFF b: Abt. 1814 in Buncombe Co, NC ...2 M RATLIFF, Probable Son b: Abt. 1826 in NC - Laborer (age 24) d: Aft. 1850 in Was in Buncombe Co, NC, 1850 Census ......+Cecilia b: Abt. 1829 in NC (Coelia was spelling in one copy of census) m: Abt. 1849 in Married within 1 year in 1850 census, Buncombe Co, NC d: Aft. 1850 in Was in Buncombe Co, NC, 1850 Census ...2 John B RATLIFF b: Abt. 1827 in NC - then Of Gilmer Co, GA in 1850 (is he John, after1850 census in Buncombe Co, NC?) d: Aft. 1850 in Was in Buncombe Co, NC, 1850 Census, with parents ......+Katherine E RANEY b: Abt. 1830 in (Age is my own guess) m: May 12, 1850 in Gilmer Co, GA ...2 Sarah Ann RATLIFF, Dau Or Niece b: Bet. 1831 - 1835 in Of Gilmer Co, GA (age is guess) ......+Charles G WILLIAMS b: Abt. 1830 in (more or less) of Gilmer Co, GA m: April 01, 1851 in Gilmer Co, GA ...2 Elizabeth RATLIFF, Dau Or Niece b: Bet. 1835 - 1837 in Of Gilmer Co, GA (age is guess) ......+Joses GENTRY b: Abt. 1835 in Of Gilmer Co, GA (age is guess) m: September 20, 1856 in Gilmer Co, GA ...2 A Son Of Benjamin RATLIFF b: Unknown ......+Elizabeth b: Abt. 1830 in GA (she was supposed to be on the page shown, but could not be found. May have had children with her ? d: Aft. 1870 in Was in Ellijay PO, Gilmer Co GA, 1870, aged 40 ...2 Another Son Of Benjamin RATLIFF b: Unknown in I feel sure that the children & Gr-ch. below were grandchildren of Benjamin-JPC d: in Unknown who their fathers were ........3 Julie (July) RATLIFF b: Abt. 1840 in Of Gilmer Co, GA (age is guess) ...........+Thomas A MILLER b: Bet. 1836 - 1840 in Of Gilmer Co, GA (age is guess) m: September 09, 1860 in Gilmer Co, GA ........3 May RATLIFF b: Abt. 1840 in Of Gilmer Co, GA (age is guess) ...........+Hibry DOVER b: Abt. 1840 in Of Gilmer Co, GA (age is guess) m: October 20, 1860 in Gilmer Co, GA ........3 Grandsons RATLIFF b: Bet. 1844 - 1850 ........3 Benjamin F RATLIFF b: Bet. 1848 - 1851 in Of Gilmer Co, GA (age is guess) ........... +Sarah M BUCKNER b: Bet. 1850 - 1853 in Of Gilmer Co, GA (age is guess) m: September 11, 1870 in Gilmer Co, GA ........3 Arey RATLIFF b: Bet. 1848 - 1852 in Of Gilmer Co, GA (age is guess) ...........+David QUARLES b: Bet. 1845 - 1849 in Of Gilmer Co, GA (age is guess) m: July 10, 1868 in Gilmer Co, GA ........3 William C RATLIFF, Gilmer Co Ga b: February 1849 in NC - Wagon Maker (Ratcliff) (both parents born in NC) (I think he was son of Thomas Ratliff, here-lived a few doors from him d: Aft. 1900 in Was in Ellijay PO, Gilmer Co GA, 1870, in Mountaintown Dist, Gilmer Co, GA, 1900 census ........... +Jemima, W Of Wm C Ratliff b: May 1848 in GA (parents b in TN) m: Bef. 1867 in Ellijay PO, Gilmer Co, GA 1870 (there were likely other children between these) d: Aft. 1900 in Was in Ellijay PO, Gilmer Co GA, 1870, in Mountaintown Dist, Gilmer Co, GA, 1900 census ........3 J G RATLIFF b: Bet. 1858 - 1862 in Of Gilmer Co, GA (age is guess) ........... +Elizabeth BARNES b: Bet. 1862 - 1865 in Of Gilmer Co, GA (age is guess) m: November 21, 1882 in Gilmer Co, GA ........3 Mary C RATLIFF b: October 1877 in SC - Of Gilmer Co, GA ...........+[1] James Tyler WATKINS b: October 25, 1844 in Long Creek, Pickens Co, SC, then of Gilmer Co, GA (age is guess) m: November 11, 1891 in Gilmer Co, GA d: December 11, 1902 in Anderson, Anderson Co, SC Burial: December 13, 1902 South Memorial Cemetery, Anderson, Anderson Co, SC ........3 John C RATLIFF b: Bet. 1850 - 1855 in Of Gilmer Co, GA (age is guess) ........... +Jane TEEM b: Abt. 1855 in Of Gilmer Co, GA (age is guess) m: January 21, 1875 in Gilmer Co, GA ........3 John RATLIFF b: Bet. 1845 - 1855 in (age is guess) - of Gilmer Co, GA ........... +Sarah BUTNER m: in Of Gilmer Co, GA

-----Original Message----- From: AslanJ@aol.com [mailto:AslanJ@aol.com] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 6:06 PM To: GAGILMER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GAGILMER] RACKLEY/RATLIFF/RACKLIFF/RATCLIFF, etc in Gilmer Co GA I would love to know if there is anyone still in Gilmer Co who may be descended from this RATLIFF family. (That Family name was spelled SO many ways, but I have spelled them all in one way in my file to keep myself from working to hard to find them when I am working on them.) Judy, these families seem to have been very close. 1850 Buncombe County, North Carolina M432-622 Sheet 223A (Ancestry Image ) July 29, 1850 #372/372 Thos Radcliff 38 [1812] M W Farmer NC James 04 [1846] M W NC Caesar? 1m [1850] M W NC Harriet 07 [1853] F W NC Mary 25 [1825] F W NC Next door neighbor to Frederick and Margaret Dover in 1860 Gilmer County, Georgia. #373/373 Benjn Radcliff 67 [1783] M W None NC Elizabeth [Rogers?] 64 [1786] F W NC John 23 [1827] M W NC #374/374 J. A. Dover 27 [1823] M W Farmer NC Penny 38 [1812] F W NC Hillary J. 07 [1843] F W NC Martha M. 04 [1846] F W NC Jason A. Dover son of Frederick and Margaret Dover. Gilmer County, Georgia in 1860 and Clay County, North Carolina in 1870 and 1880. White County, Georgia by 1900. 1860 Gilmer County, Georgia Census M653-124 Subdivision No. 33, June 2, 1860 Sheet 5A & 5B (Ancestry Image 5 & 6) #41/41 Jason A. Dover 38 [1822] M - NC Farmer Son of Fred & Margaret Dover? Perry Dover 43 [1817] F - NC Hilery J. 16 [1844] F - NC Martha M. 12 [1848] F - NC Note: Jason went to Hayesville in Clay County, North Carolina by 1870 and is found in the 1870 and 1880 census. Was in White County, Georgia in 1900. Martha M. Dover Curtis is living near Jason until 1900. Possible son of Frederick & Margaret Dover. See notes for David F. Dillingham below. Did Jason & David come to Gilmer County together from Buncombe County, North Carolina? Sheet 34 #254/244 Dillin Dover 25 [1835] M - NC Farmer Son of Fred & Margaret Dover Elizabeth 22 [1838] F GA Nee Helton Lucinda C. 04 [1856] F GA Margaret E. 02 [1858] F GA Infant 1M [1850] F GA Bailey Dover 30 [1830] M - NC Farmer Son of Fred & Margaret Dover Jane 27 [1833] F - NC Nee James Margaret C. 06 [1854] F GA John McD 03 [1857] M GA Louisa J. 01 [1859] F GA #256/246 Frederick Dover 63 [1797] M - SC Farmer Margaret 63 [1797] F - NC See 1850 Buncombe County, North Carolina census. #257/247 Rufus Ratcliff 46 [1814] M - NC Farmer Margaret J. 19 [1841] F - NC House Keeper Mary C. 18 [1842] F - NC Hannah A. 16 [1844] F - NC Andrew B. 11 [1849] M - NC James E. 09 [1851] M - NC Charles W. 03 [1857] M GA Nelly Gentry 21 [1839] F - NC Washington 03 [1857] M GA Sheet 35 & 36 #262/251 Thomas Ratcliff 48 [1806] M - NC Mary 37 [1823] F - NC Harriett E. 17 [1843] F - NC James N? 14 [1846] M - NC William R. 11 [1849] M NC Benjamin 08 [1852] M GA Elizabeth J. 06 [1854] F GA Laura A. 04 [1856] F GA Eliza S. 02 [1858] F GA Thomas A. 01 [1859] M GA Note: Thomas Ratcliff was the next door neighbor of Jason Dover in the 1850 Buncombe County, North Carolina census. See Sheet 223A.

Jacqueline King <fammaw1@alltel.net> shared this very interesting news bit -- does anyone know who this Mr. Milton may have been or anything about his wife, etc. Just made me so curious when I read about his being murdered by being shoved through his dinining room window! Atlanta Constitution, Sept. 15, 1872 $500 Reward I hereby offer a Reward of Five Hundred Dollars for the apprehension, with proof sufficient to convict the party and his accomplices who murdered my husband, William P. Milton, in Ellijay, Georgia, on the night of the 16th of April last, by shoving him through the window of his dining room, while at his supper table. This 17th day of June, 1872 Signed by Nancy C. Milton ____________________________________________________ ____ Five Hundred Dollar reward offered by the Governor's Office for the apprehension of whoever murdered William P. Milton. Signed by James M. Smith, Governor ____________________________________________________ ____ Five Hundred Dollar reward offered by the Oak Bowery Lodge No. 81, F.A.M. for the apprehension of whoever murdered Brother William Milton. Signed by Thomas F. Greer, Worshipful Master Pro-tem and W.R. Welch, Secretary Pro-Tem Virginia Crilley

Members of the Dover-L Message Board are becoming involved in DNA testing to establish connections with ancestors. These tests require direct male DOVER descendants. DNA is complicated to explain but there's good information at the web site. "Our service [Family Tree DNA] is dedicated to helping genealogists find lost relatives when the paper trail ends and the brick wall takes its place. We use a painless cheek scraping to obtain DNA that can help accurately determine a relationship with either a 99.9% probability of YES or a 100% certainly that no near term relationship existed." <http://www.familytreedna.com/index.html> http://www.familytreedna.com/index.html Lot of information about what the DNA does. In the upper right corner, type in DOVER and hit search. It's strongly suggested that you or those known male Dover's subscribe to the Dover-L list to see and hear what's going on. <mailto:Dover-L-request@rootsweb.com> Dover-L@rootsweb.com Type subscribe in the body of the message and send. To view the Dover-L messages go to the following link. The DNA tests have been discussed in August and September. Many list members who are not direct Dover male to direct Dover male descendants are asking to be able to participate by helping offset the cost. <http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/dover> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/dover Please contact me directly if you have any questions.

Hi! We are in the process of updating our Gilmer County, GAGenWeb site. But we need your data! Please send us any information that you have regarding Gilmer County, GA roots, history, families and genealogy. We will take any data that you are willing to give us! Richard Pettys, Jr. http://www.rootsweb.com/!gagilmer/

Hello! It has been a long time since I wrote to this list. I wanted to remind everyone that the Gilmer County, GAGenWeb page may be found at http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagilmer/. I also wanted to ask each of you to send me your genealogical data. I would like to make the Gilmer County, GAGenWeb page the clearinghouse for Gilmer County data and research. Richard

Mary Gertrude Chastain was b. 1883, the d/o Dr. Wilburn Monroe Chastain and Laura Quillian. Both parents were both deceased by 1888 and Mary Gertrude was found living with Laura's sister and her husband (Alexander and Narcissa Davis) in 1890. I believe that Mary Gertrude died around 1910-1913. Does anyone have a cemetery census they could check for me? I would like to know where she is buried and when she died. Mary Gertrude's maternal grandparents were Walter Terrell Colquitt Quillian and Sarah Louisey Roberts. Her paternal grandparents were the Rev. Joseph Pearson Chastain and his second wife Mary Hunnicutt. Thank you. Lynne in the beautiful northeast GA mountains

My last note for a while, I promise! My apologies again for those getting this note more than once due to cross-posting. While looking for the marriage record of Reese J. McClure and his first wife, I searched the Rabun County, Georgia marriage records on microfilm at the GA Archives. Here's what I noted: Source: Rabun County, Georgia Court of Ordinary Record of Marriages Book A Index 1820-1850, microfilmed Clayton GA 5 July 1963, & viewed on microfilm 15 July 2003 at GA Archives; microfilm found in drawer 15, box # 19. On the box: Rabun Co. GA Probate Court Marriages Vol A 1820 - 1850 Index; Vol B 1869-1884 Index; Vol B-D 1884-1895 Index; Vol E 1895-1921 Index Volume A Index Entries noted: McCluer JR p. 41 McClure Walter p. 73 McClure Joseph p. 102 Volume A Marriage Records Noted: p. 41 R J McClure to Miss Mary Parker marriage authorized 28 November 1834, wed same day by Ba[unreadable] Do[unreadable] JJG p. 73 Walter McClure to Mary Ann Jackson authorized 2nd November 1839, solemnized 6th November 1839 by Jeremiah York, JP; recorded 31st December 1839 by James Bleckley, CCo p. 102 Joseph McClure & Mary Patterson [I think her surname is Patterson; it was hard to read], marriage authorized 22 Feb 1844, wed same day by John Killingham JP [again, I think it said Killingham] I believe this RJ McClure is my 3rd great-grandfather, Reese J. McClure who is enumerated in Gilmer County, Georgia in 1840 and 1850 and in Fannin County, Georgia in 1860 and 1870. He died, per the information I have from the Petition for Years' Support and his tombstone at Mt. Morriah Baptist Church cemetery in Fannin County, Georgia, on or about 2 November 1875. I cannot find this Reese J. McClure in the 1830 census. He is said to be the son of John McClure and Lilean Bowen from the Old Pendleton District in South Carolina, but I have not proven that relationship. I'm trying to get back that far! I'd love to hear from anyone researching this line. I'm sorry I don't have any additional information on these other McClure marriages I found during my research. These McClures are not in my database at all. And thanks to any and all who put up with all my notes! :-) Judy

My apologies to all who see this cross-posted message. I'm sharing recent research finds in hopes of helping someone and maybe even finding a long-lost cousin (or two!). I'm posting to both Gilmer and Fannin County, Georgia lists because I believe at least one of my McClures went from Gilmer to Fannin County. While researching my McClure ancestors July 15th at the Georgia Archives' new, wonderful facility, I found the following: source: Gilmer County, Georgia Marriages & Mixed Records 1836-1837; 1835-1875 Marriaged Indexed; microfilm MFL 390, found in drawer 103, box 9 Book 1836-1837 No McClure (any variation) entries Book 1835-1852 No McClure entries (any spelling) Book 2 1852-1875 MClure Miles & Walker Sarah m lic p. 22 source: Gilmer County, Georgia Court of Ordinary Marriages Book 3 1877-1892 Indexed Book 4 1893-1908 Indexed, which includes some marriages 1857-1871 re-recorded in 1905 on pp 289-345; microfilm MFL 390-391, found in drawer 103, box 10 at GA Archives Book 3 Index Entries noted: McClure & Spivey p. 212 McClure & Anderson p. 489 (entry not found, possible I read page # wrong & it's 469 though I think I looked there, too) McClure & Jones p. 475 McClure & Burden p. 512 Book 3 Marriage Records Noted: p. 212 John M. McClure & CN Spivey marriage authorized 20 Dec 1883, wed 23 Dec 1883 by Joseph King, MG p. 475 John McCluer & Marinda Jones marriage authorized 20 Dec 1890, wed 21 Dec 1890 by Joseph Phillips, MG p. 512 DM McClure & Margaret Burden marriage authorized 3 January 1891, wed 5 Jan 1891 by JM Davis (could be JW Davis - hard to tell) Book 4 Index Entries Noted: McClure & Spiven p. 8 (or p. 3 - hard to tell) McClure & Reese p. 12 McClure & Nu[unreadable] p. 30 McClure & Reece p. 68 McClure & Pierce p. 95 McClure & Chastain p. 131 McClurd & Souther p. 146 (thought it might have been mistake & should be McClure) McClure & Chastain p. 166 McClure & Chastain p. 215 McClurd & Brown p. 228 (McClure?) McClure & Parker p. 324 (the one I was looking for!) I did not have time to take notes on each of these marriages. I did type notes from the McClure & Parker marriage record found on page 324 of Book 4. The keyboard for my PDA has an annoying habit of not typing all of the 'n' keys I press, so forgive me if the notes are missing a few 'n's or have a few too many!. Marriage Recd RJ McClure & Julia Ann Parker Gilmer County Ct of Ordinary Marriage Book 4 1893-1908, which includes some marriages re-recorded in 1905 from 1857-1871 on pp. 289-345 page 324 "State of Georgia, County of Gilmer To anny judge, justice of the peace, or minister of the Gospel: You are hereby authorized to join RJ McClure and Julia Ann Parker in the Holy State of Matrimoy, according to the Constitution and Laws of the State, and for so doing this shall be your License; and you are hereby required to return this license to me, with your certificate heron of the fact and date of the marriage. Given under my hand and seal, this 29 day of Jany, 1862 JP Chastain Ordinary State of Georgia County of Gilmer I certify that R.J. McClure and Julia Ann Parker were joied in matrimoy by me, this 2nd day of Feby 1862 W A Ellis M.G. Recorded August 9, 1905 T N Tabor, Ordinary" I believe that this RJ McClure who married Julia Ann Parker is the Reese J. McClure found in the 1850 census in Gilmer County, Georgia as follows: typed page 375, Reece J. McClure, age 44, listed as head of household, a farmer with real estate worth 600 (dollars?) , born S.C., listed with 11 other members of his household: Mary, 32; Mary A, 12; John ML, 11; Lovice, 10; Benjamin F, 9; Martha J, 8; Addaline, 6; Sarah J, 5; Robert N, 3; Eliza A, 2; and Nancy H, 1. I believe this Reese J. McClure in 1860 was in Fannin County, Georgia, as follows: typed p. 1023, Reese J. McClure, 53, M, farmer, real estate value 1000, personal estate value 500, born SC. Listed with Mary, 48, Martha, 19, Hefsey? 16, Sarah, 14, Robert, 13, and on p. 1024 Eliza, 11, Harriet, 10, Thomas, 9, and Reese B., 7. And in 1870, the Fannin County, Georgia census lists: printed p. 371, written p. 51, lines 25-28, McClure Reece, 64, M, W, Farmer, owned real estate valued at 700, personal property worth 400, born SC, eligible to vote. Listed with Julia (50), Eliza (20), and Bowen (16). I'll be glad to share my research on this family with interested researchers. I've got one more note to share from my search for Reese J. McClure's first marriage record in Rabun County, Georgia. Judy

A survey of Old Cartecay United Methodist Church Cemetery has been added to the Gilmer County American History and Genealogy project website at http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ga/county/gilmer/ There have been several other pages updated and additions made also. Stop by and check out this old cemetery for your kinfolks. Paula

Idella, If you find no one to help solve your relation with these people then you must use land records, plot the land they owned/sold or gave to children upon their death, and check the wills. Alot of work but you can come up with an assumption that should put them together....also read the neighbors wills/land records. This type of search is always overlooked............Pat/NJ

DOES ANYONE OUT THERE CONNECTED TO THESE JOHNSON THAT WHERE IN BURKE CO, GA IN 1820---------MOSES JOHNSON SARAH JOHNSON CHAROLETTE JOHNSON ELIZABETH JOHNSON GEORGE JOHNSON ELIJAH JOHNSON JAMES J. JOHNSON JACOB JOHNSON JARED JOHNSON THIS JOHNSON WERE ALL IN 9 DIFFERENT HOUSE NEXT DOOR TO ONE ANOTHER,DOES ANY ONE KNOW HOW THEY CONNECT TO EACH OTHER. IDELLA