1850 Nantahalee, Macon Co., NC 15 Nov. 1850 853/868 Mary Sutherland F 4 GA Caswell Sutherland M 30 farmer SC Martin(sic) F 30 Buncombe Co. Jasper M 12 Cherokee Co. Thomas Jeff. M 10 GA Jane F 8 GA Rebecca F 6 Cherokee Co. Washington M 4 Macon Co. Elisha M 1 Macon Co. 1860 Chion District Cherokee Co., NC p. 124 1 Aug. 1860 PO Ft. Montgomery line 36 828/828 Caswell Sutherlan(sic) 44 M farmer /500 Knox Co., TN Martha 45 F Buncome Co. Manerva J. 18 F Gilmer Co., GA George W. 12 M Cherokee Co. Marion 10 F Macon Co. p. 125 line 1 Martha A. Sutherland(sic) 8 F Macon Co. Posey 6 M Cherokee Co. Ute(sic) 2/3 M Cherokee Co. 1870 Hothouse Twsp. Cherokee Co., NC p. 284 1 July 1870 89/89 Sutherland, Johnston M 51 TN farmer Martha F 57 NC Martha Ann F 18 NC Posey M 17 NC farm laborer Euty M 14 NC farm laborer Stewart, Jane F 24 GA Mary F 9 NC 1880 Hothouse Twsp. Cherokee Co., NC 292/A 22 June 1880 153/154 Sutherland, Caswell M 60 farmer SC Martha F 64 NC Martha Ann F 25 NC Mary F 17 grandaughter NC/TN/NC Stuart, Jane F 37 daughter GA Thomas Jasper M 5 grandson NC/NC/NC *******1880 Morganton Fannin Co., GA 913 M. District June 10/11, 1880 A/675************ 131/132 line 31 FAIN, Newton A. and family including on line 40 of this group you will find.... SUTHERLAND, Caswell M 60 servant working on farm 3 mo. unemployed NC sic---spelling is correct, as found on census' I find the name spelled "SUTHERLAND", as opposed to SOUTHERLAND. Pat Tucker/NJ

Would someone look in 1850 census for a Samuel L carver wife Mary Logan. they married 1-1-1850 in gilmer county. Thank you

I have census information and descendants on the other siblings of Preshus Carter Felmet. The only one I cannot find descendants on is Martha "Patsy" Carter Southerland. I have lots of Felmet info,and should anyone need it, will be happy to share. There has been some debate among researchers of Nathaniel Felmet as to whether Preshus and Mannerva were the same person. I think the dual census in Gilmer and Floyd Counties has put that to rest. There is also a question of an Edith Wood. George W. Felmet, born in Gilmer County, a son of Nathaniel's and Preshus Felmet, has a death certificate in Fannin County, Texas, which lists Edith Wood as the mother. I think the son of George's who gave the information just didn't know the facts, or gave as best he knew. Hoever, other researchers are insisting that ther was another wife. The 1850 Gloyd/Gilmer Census for Preshus/Mannerva, and the 1860 census for Mannerva should lay this to rest. If in your looking around, you were to find a date of death, place of burial for Preshus, I would be eternally grateful. Our family legend is that she died while Nathaniel was away during the Civil War. Thanking you for all you have done. Dorie Pat wrote: >Dora, > > What else do you need help with?? > > Do you have census info on the other siblings of your Preshus?? > > Pat > > >==== GAGILMER Mailing List ==== >NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > >

Dora, What else do you need help with?? Do you have census info on the other siblings of your Preshus?? Pat

How interesting, take a look at the dates of the census'. 1850 Gilmer Co., GA subdivision #33 August 21, 1850 #171/171 Green FELMET 32 NC Preshus 25 NC Martha 11 NC Doras H. 9 NC John 6 GA Sarah 2 GA William McDANIEL 31 NC farmer 1850 Floyd Co., GA subdivision #30 October 20, 1850 #452 N. G. FELMET 31 daylaborer NC Manerva 28 NC Martha A. 12 NC Do_res 10 GA John 7 GA Sarah 2 GA

My theory: Nathaniel Green or "Green" is a farmer in the Gilmer County census, and farm labor in the Floyd County census. I think he worked his farm and also hired out. The census taker might have cought him in one spot, probably Gilmer, and took information. In the other spot, the census taker might have said "who lives in that house" and wrote down the information. I 've thought for a while now that, when some of my ancestors seemed to have avoided the census taker at all costs, old Nathaniel got recorded twice! lol. Pat wrote: >How interesting, take a look at the dates of the census'. > > >1850 Gilmer Co., GA subdivision #33 August 21, 1850 > >#171/171 >Green FELMET 32 NC >Preshus 25 NC >Martha 11 NC >Doras H. 9 NC >John 6 GA >Sarah 2 GA >William McDANIEL 31 NC farmer > > >1850 Floyd Co., GA subdivision #30 October 20, 1850 >#452 >N. G. FELMET 31 daylaborer NC >Manerva 28 NC >Martha A. 12 NC >Do_res 10 GA >John 7 GA >Sarah 2 GA > > >==== GAGILMER Mailing List ==== >NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

Thank you, Pat. I did find them in all those census records. They seem todisappear after the 1880 census. So, I'll go to the Dawson Co., genweb site to check cemetery listings. Maybe I'll get lucky! Dorie Pat wrote: >Check this data further: > >1850 Polk Co. TN subdivision #25 >#907/915 Nelson CARTER > >1860 Fannin Co., GA GA Military #913 >#74 Nelson CARTER > >1870 Fannin Co., GA Morganton >#263/263 Nelson CARTER (??age varied) > > >1880 Dawson Co., GA District 45 >#224/229 Nelson CARTER > > > >==== GAGILMER Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the utility address GAGILMER-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you are trying to unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but change the -L- to a -D- > >============================== >New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > >

Check this data further: 1850 Polk Co. TN subdivision #25 #907/915 Nelson CARTER 1860 Fannin Co., GA GA Military #913 #74 Nelson CARTER 1870 Fannin Co., GA Morganton #263/263 Nelson CARTER (??age varied) 1880 Dawson Co., GA District 45 #224/229 Nelson CARTER

pat, Some folks on the web have Preshus Menerva Carter as one person. Also, after Preshus died he married her neice martha. Further, the Kids are the same. We have in my tree the name "Precious". Am attempting to get Warren Clayton Felmet's death cert but not yet certain they have one in Hunt County, TX. Pat wrote: > How interesting, take a look at the dates of the census'. > > > 1850 Gilmer Co., GA subdivision #33 August 21, 1850 > > #171/171 > Green FELMET 32 NC > Preshus 25 NC > Martha 11 NC > Doras H. 9 NC > John 6 GA > Sarah 2 GA > William McDANIEL 31 NC farmer > > > 1850 Floyd Co., GA subdivision #30 October 20, 1850 > #452 > N. G. FELMET 31 daylaborer NC > Manerva 28 NC > Martha A. 12 NC > Do_res 10 GA > John 7 GA > Sarah 2 GA > > > ==== GAGILMER Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

Dora, I was referring to Preshus' sister Sarah Carter! Dora Albrecht wrote: >> Tim, > > > Our Felmets and Teagues are certainly entwined! I checked my > files, and seem to have nothing on Sarah Felmet. Except that she is a > dauther of Nathaniel Green Felmet and was born about 1839. Would > appreciate info on her. > >> Dorie > > >> Dora, >> Did you know That Sarah's daughter Nancy married James Teague, >> brother of Moses? Now it was Moses' daughters that married Warren >> Clayton and John Henry Felmet. >> >> >> >> > > > > ==== GAGILMER Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal > messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will > be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen > Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

Caswell SOUTHERLAND married 26 July 1837 in Haywood County NC Patsy CARTER Nathaniel G. FELMET married 17 August 1837 Haywood County NC Preshus Carter The above was found using the search engine Ask Jeeves, www.ask.com the Haywood County NC marriage records are online. George CARTER married 9 September 1852 Gilmer County GA Nancy ELLISON by Henry Pettit, JIC I have the published book for Gilmer Co., GA Marriage records 1835 to1960 by V. Jones. If you use "ask.com" and type in Nathaniel G. FELMET, there is a website that comes up and gives info on his line, also his CW affiliation, and that he died 8 May 1904 in Fannin Co., TX. Names the children, but not who they married. I have no connection to your family, just trying to help...............Pat Tucker/NJ

Thank you, Pat! Dorie Pat wrote: > Caswell SOUTHERLAND married 26 July 1837 in Haywood County NC Patsy CARTER > > Nathaniel G. FELMET married 17 August 1837 Haywood County NC Preshus Carter > >The above was found using the search engine Ask Jeeves, www.ask.com the Haywood County NC marriage records are online. > > George CARTER married 9 September 1852 Gilmer County GA Nancy ELLISON by Henry Pettit, JIC >I have the published book for Gilmer Co., GA Marriage records 1835 to1960 by V. Jones. > >If you use "ask.com" and type in Nathaniel G. FELMET, there is a website that comes up and gives info on his line, also his CW affiliation, and that he died 8 May 1904 in Fannin Co., TX. Names the children, but not who they married. > >I have no connection to your family, just trying to help...............Pat Tucker/NJ > > > > > >==== GAGILMER Mailing List ==== >NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

> Tim, Our Felmets and Teagues are certainly entwined! I checked my files, and seem to have nothing on Sarah Felmet. Except that she is a dauther of Nathaniel Green Felmet and was born about 1839. Would appreciate info on her. > Dorie > Dora, > Did you know That Sarah's daughter Nancy married James Teague, > brother of Moses? Now it was Moses' daughters that married Warren > Clayton and John Henry Felmet. > > > >

Dora, Did you know That Sarah's daughter Nancy married James Teague, brother of Moses? Now it was Moses' daughters that married Warren Clayton and John Henry Felmet. Dora Albrecht wrote: > My 3rd great grandpatents, Henry Carter and Martha (Parham) Carter are > in Gilmer County, GA from 1840 census on. > Henry was born about 1775 in NC, and is in the 1850 census with wife > Matha & son, George B. Carter. He and Martha are alone in the > household in 1860 census. Martha has disappeared from census in 1870. > In 1870, Hnery is living in the household of his daughter, Sarah Carter > Thompson. > Martha was born about 1780 in Virginia. Martha and Henry 11/10/1797. > Children were: > Sarah Carter, born 8/1810, married Samuel Thompson > Elizabeth Carter, born abt 1812, married Nelson Carter > Martha (Patsy) Carter, born abt 1815, said to have married Caswell > Johns\ton Southerland. > Preshus Mannerva Carter, born abt 1825, married Nathaniel Green Felmet > (My line) > George B. Carter, born about 1830, married Nancy Ellison > > I would appreciate any help finding dates of death and places of burial > for Martha and Hnery Carter, as well as any of their children who might > have remained in Gilmer County. > Marriae dates of the children would be a real bonus! > Thaning you, > Dora Savage Albrecht > > > > ==== GAGILMER Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the > utility address GAGILMER-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you are trying to > unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but > change the -L- to a -D- > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > >

Dora, If you find such info please forward. If you are descended from Nathaniel Green Felmet and Preshus Cartecr. You know mine is Warren Clayton Felmet and Mary Ann Teague. Got Great grandma Blackwell's death cert and they are mentioned. Do you know where I might obtain a census on Nathaniel Green Felmet as son of Theodorus and Warren Clayton Felmet as son of Nathaniel? With that proof and Theodorus being a Maryland Continental, I can join Sons of the Revolution. BTW, Warren Clayton Felmet was ordained in the Cross Grove Baptis Church(now First Baptist Church) of Tellico Junction(now Englewood), TN. Have copy of their history on him and another gg grandfather William Glenn Blackwell. Seems William Glenn and his brother Reuben joined the 4th Tenn Cavalry in 1863 in KY according to a web site. That was a Union outfit. What is unusual is that they were from Spartanburg, SC. That might explain why Great grandpa Blackwell was a Republican in Texas in the early 1900s. Tim Henry Dora Albrecht wrote: > My 3rd great grandpatents, Henry Carter and Martha (Parham) Carter are > in Gilmer County, GA from 1840 census on. > Henry was born about 1775 in NC, and is in the 1850 census with wife > Matha & son, George B. Carter. He and Martha are alone in the > household in 1860 census. Martha has disappeared from census in 1870. > In 1870, Hnery is living in the household of his daughter, Sarah Carter > Thompson. > Martha was born about 1780 in Virginia. Martha and Henry 11/10/1797. > Children were: > Sarah Carter, born 8/1810, married Samuel Thompson > Elizabeth Carter, born abt 1812, married Nelson Carter > Martha (Patsy) Carter, born abt 1815, said to have married Caswell > Johns\ton Southerland. > Preshus Mannerva Carter, born abt 1825, married Nathaniel Green Felmet > (My line) > George B. Carter, born about 1830, married Nancy Ellison > > I would appreciate any help finding dates of death and places of burial > for Martha and Hnery Carter, as well as any of their children who might > have remained in Gilmer County. > Marriae dates of the children would be a real bonus! > Thaning you, > Dora Savage Albrecht > > > > ==== GAGILMER Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the > utility address GAGILMER-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you are trying to > unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but > change the -L- to a -D- > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > >

My 3rd great grandpatents, Henry Carter and Martha (Parham) Carter are in Gilmer County, GA from 1840 census on. Henry was born about 1775 in NC, and is in the 1850 census with wife Matha & son, George B. Carter. He and Martha are alone in the household in 1860 census. Martha has disappeared from census in 1870. In 1870, Hnery is living in the household of his daughter, Sarah Carter Thompson. Martha was born about 1780 in Virginia. Martha and Henry 11/10/1797. Children were: Sarah Carter, born 8/1810, married Samuel Thompson Elizabeth Carter, born abt 1812, married Nelson Carter Martha (Patsy) Carter, born abt 1815, said to have married Caswell Johns\ton Southerland. Preshus Mannerva Carter, born abt 1825, married Nathaniel Green Felmet (My line) George B. Carter, born about 1830, married Nancy Ellison I would appreciate any help finding dates of death and places of burial for Martha and Hnery Carter, as well as any of their children who might have remained in Gilmer County. Marriae dates of the children would be a real bonus! Thaning you, Dora Savage Albrecht

Meeting Dates Set: May 14 - The Georgia Trail of Tears Association will meet at the Etowah Mounds outside Cartersville Georgia at 10:30 a.m. Guest speaker is Dr. Alice Taylor-Colbert of Shorter College who will speak on Major Ridge and his relationship to the Cherokees of North Georgia. July 9 - The Georgia Trail of Tears Association will be meeting at the Old Stone Church in Ringgold Georgia at 10:30 a.m. Speakers will be DOT research under grads from Ole Miss and other DOT representatives connected with the TOTA project of documenting the Old Federal Road through Georgia. The Catoosa Historical Society will be sponsoring our visit. There will be a field trip following the meeting at about 1 p.m. Ringgold is the site of the Great Locomotive Chase of Civil War fame and also where a portion of the Federal Road passes through. For more information call Tommy Cox at 770-382-4012 or email him at tc12@bellsouth.net . Other events of interest: April 29-30 - The Society for Georgia Archaeology (SGA) will have their spring meeting at the Cohutta Lodge Conference Center - Cherokee Room with a reception on the 29th from 6:30 - 8:30 p.m. Various speakers will be present throughout the day on the 30th from 9:00 a.m. - 3:00 p.m. including Dr. David Crass, Dr. Sarah Hill, Dr. Joe Joseph, Dr. Claudio Saunt, Mr. Dan Elliott, Ms. Tammy Herron, Mr. Scott Butler, and Mr. Chad Braley. Discussions this year are centered around the archaeological sites linked to the Indian Removal period in Georgia. There is a $10.00 registration fee and doors open on the 30th at 8 a.m. At 3 p.m. on the 30th there will be a tour of the Chief Vann House and Historic site. For more information call the Lodge at 706-695-9601. April 30-New Echota-Cherokee Genealogy Workshop from 10-noon. Register by Apr. 24th-fee is $8 and includes tour of the museum and grounds. Call 706-624-1321. May 21-New Echota-Artifact Identification Day 10-4. June 25- Etowah Mounds-Indian Flute and Storytelling 10-4 $4 fee call 770-387-3747. July 17-Etowah Mounds-Lecture on Preservation of Native America. 2:30-3:30 p.m. call above number for more info. July 23-Chief Vann House Days from 10-4 fee $4, call 706-695-2598. August 13-14 and 27-28 - The Cherokee Nation History Course will again be offered by the Chieftain's Museum in conjunction with the Cherokee Nation and instructor Dr. Julia Coates. The cost for the entire 4 intensive course days is only $35.00 - you receive a book for the course. Check the Chieftain's Museum website for more information and registration form or call 706-291-9494. For more information about Georgia State Parks go to .http://gastateparksorg and click on the map or do a search. Pow Wows and Festivals: May 6-8 * Mother's Day Pow Wow in Canton Georgia at Boling Park behind the high school. June 18-19 * Father's Day Festival in Douglasville Georgia, follow the signs. July 22-24 * Motorcycle Rendezvous Jasper Georgia.

I am so excited to share with you that Dorinda Whitley has created a master listing for the Deeds of Gilmer County -- ABCDEF books. You can just imagine the amount of work and eyestrain that went into this labor for all of you who research in Gilmer County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ga/gilmer/deeds.html http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ga/gilmer/photos/landlots.jpg Land Lot map was also created by Dorinda This is a great asset...and now let's do our part by typing up any deeds you are able to obtain (or maybe you have some already in your files). I know that transcribing these deeds can be a daunting task...but actually the same sort of words are used in most all of them. The important thing of course is the individual differences.... who bought it, where they lived, who sold it, where the land was located land district, land lot, witnesses. Some will mention some bordering land owners... Looking at the deeds page, you can see that so many of them were shared by Suzanne Forte. I feel certain that some of you do have a deed or two in your file, and if you need help in getting this transcribing done, just write to me. The more everyone shares, the more we will be helped to get past a brick wall. Deeds (by who signs the deed) can also be a clue for some of those married daughters we're always looking for. It's been my experience that if the land came through the wife, then her signature was required on the deed itself. Most of all let's say a BIG THANK you to Dorinda! Virginia

1850 Census Gilmer County, GA 1046 CARVER, James M 65 HH SC Farmer Nancy F 56 SC Caroline F 15 NC Silas M. M 14 NC 1049 CARVER, James M 26 HH NC Farmer Fanny F 26 NC Julia A. F 3 SC Robert V. M 11mo. SC "The Heritage of Gilmer Co., GA 1832-1996" page 253 #736 Robert Logan Family second paragraph, the following is mentioned.... Joseph Logan appears on the 1840 Gilmer census with a son 15-19, circa1821-25 fitting Robert Logan. Etheldred Patterson, Williamson Forester, Asa Johnson and Henry Clark, John Biddie, were living near Joseph Logan. A William and Nancy Logan were witnesses Gilmer Superior Court Minutes, March 1841, State and Drud Patterson vs. James A. Johnston, other witnesses Dover, Beddy, Forister, Townsand. LL310-24-2, 24 February 1844 was purchased by Joseph B. Logan from John Sanders, witnesses S. M. Farrar, B. W. C. Clark. Joseph Logan sold the SE corner of LL310, 17 November 1847 to Julius Logan, witnesses R. B. Perry, R. H. Cannon. I don't know if these are my family. Submitted by: Joann A. Warmack, 4388 Woodland Brook Dr., N. Atlanta, GA 30339-4809 Pat Tucker/NJ

I only have the 1850/60 Gilmer Co., GA census in hard copy and do not find this family, Joseph and Elizabeth (Sandlin?). In 1840 only Joseph would be listed and then number of family members listed as numbers under appropiate age groups male/female. Mary married Samuel S. Carver Jan. 1, 1850 Gilmer Co., GA by Davis Collins, JP source:Gilmer Co., GA marriage records 1835-1960 Jasper Newton Logan: 1870 Sebastian Co., AR 1880 Sebastian Co., AR 1900 Choctow Nation Indian Territory 1910 Pontotoc Co., OK Zadock/Zaddock/Zadak P. Logan 1850 Sept. 24 married D. M. Wood in Montgomery, AR 1861 Caddo Rifles, Co. "C" 4th Arkansas Infantry CSA organized July 1861 (Z. P. Logan) 1870 Sebastian Co., AR 1880 Sebastian Co., AR 1889 witness for Cogburn, Cogburn vs. State of Arkansas Everton's Computerized Roots Cellar: "Zaddock Logan" Shirley R. Carver Rt. 1 Box 233 Bokoshe, OK 74950 York Co. South Carolina 1820 census L250 LOGAN Drury M-33 170 220010-11010 L250 LOGAN Joseph M-33 164 100010-20100 L250 LOGAN William M-33 164 100110-30100 L250 LOGAN William M-33 170 000041-00001 The above came from my personal collection, plus the use of Ancestry.com, Genealogy.com subscriptions and Familysearch.org. Pat Tucker