I asked CAT Tindell for some more specifics regarding the actual wording of the copyright --- and also to help me understand the complexity of "design of page" and using graphics. Graphics and "data" seem to be two separate items. She's busy with family right now --- so I'm quoting from her note until she has the time to write herself. I hope others will also help to clarify as I'm trying to learn this myself: =====From CAT Tindall======= Design Copyright 2003 <Virginia Crilley, city, state> Email: <email addy> Content Copyright 1996-2003 USGenWeb Project <http://www.usgenweb.org>www.usgenweb.org and the individual data submitter as noted. You should also put the copyright symbol, which I can't do in this email, right before the word "Copyright". *****Virginia says: I didn't know how to get the copyright symbol so I just copied it off of CAT's page and inserted it at the bottom of the main Marion County page. I had redesigned the front page.**** This way clearly shows the line drawn between the 2 copyright concepts and that they are independent of each other. CC's are merely administrators of this project and volunteer to design and keep maintained web pages about the county they volunteered to do. They do not become the owner of the information, only the design..... =========CAT comments on using pages without redesigning====== **Virginia asked: what about a page that I don't update or change?** Yes, you must keep Mary K's name on that military page if you keep the page 'as is'...but do remove her referance as CC at the bottom of that page if she's no longer the CC, instead putting her email addy. Contact info should always be included with the copyright info at the bottom of very web page. If you want to redo the design of this page, still including the links that she used, then you can remove her copyright entirely. There's no such thing as a holding a copyright on a link. Mary K did not use any Civil War/Military graphics on her page for you to be concerned about..only that blue/green bar at the bottom which can stay if you keep her name as the copyright holder. If you redo that page, remove that graphic. ======CAT on using graphics========== Credit must be given back for every graphic on a page if a designer did not pay for that graphic. I don't know of a single site on the internet that allows for no credit to be given for freeware graphics. Other than adjusting the size of graphics, no other changes can be made to freeware graphics. ***Virginia: I have used some "generic type" graphics --- flag bars, CSA soldiers, etc but didn't realize that I need to state the sources here as well. ****Virginia: Also CAT mentioned that on some of her pages she had used graphics "with permission" --- and that these graphics are no longer available to the public, and that no other person would be able to use them. CAT herself could not give permission to the next CC to use those specific graphics, and the graphic didn't belong to her. Virginia Crilley