Then why don't you provide a direct link to the Archives County Site Page and do away with your county pages as they are really a duplication of what is at the Archives...all addresses for government offices, schools, churches, history of county, and all of that could all be right there at the archives..what do you need with a county page....why waste the space on the WWW when it is no longer needed in your situation...Why make the visitors go through the county site to just get to the Archives? Just put the link to the Archives on to he GAGenWeb Project County Index page and then save your visitors a bit of time? And spend your time just building up the Archives. But leave those who intend to keep material on the county level alone? Those who have no content on the county just have it online for what? make a direct link to the archives....do away with your county page...and just set up :"all" in the archives...there are already links there to go to the Mail Lists and Message Boards and most of the County Archivists have also provided other material which meets the county requirements...That is what I am saying....but there are those of us who plan to keep the material at the county website and do not intend to change from that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robertson" <lrober@plantationcable.net> To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Ok, now I am mad > Although I am not mad about it, I agree with Michele that the Archives has a > very important part in our project. I personally would like to see more > state-wide files and the Archives is a good substitute for that. In addition to > being searchable, we as developers of the files do not have to maintain them if > they are in Archives. I have most all the large files - census - marriages- > cemeteries- tax digest - etc in Archives and provide links to those files from > the Haralson County and Monroe County pages. With them managing the files, I can > proceed to develop others. > > I have never understood the animosity toward Archives. I have contributed the > files for PERMANENT records for the counties I work with. My sole reason for > participating in this project is to get records on line for ALL RESEARCHERS, not > to build a personal cache. I am in the process of transcribing the 1870 census > for Monroe County and the thought occurred to me that the enumerator had no idea > that 133 years after he took this census that someone would be trying to > decipher his handwriting. I hope that the work I am doing today will be > available 133 years in the future and I want that work preserved. When I retire > from the coordinator position, I will pass on what I have on the pages to the > next coordinator, however, I do not want the preservation of these records to be > at the whelm of that coordinator. I want them there to stay. > > The GaGenWeb project is so important to preservation of our history and I desire > nothing more than to be able to participate in the project in an enjoyable > environment with support from other coordinators as well as our regional and > state coordinator. > > I have never had a complaint from a RESEARCHER regarding the links. Most of them > are very appreciative of the fact that we have worked so hard to provide the > information for them. There is a place here for both "home pages" and archived > files. > > Liz Robertson > Coordinator > HARALSON AND MONROE COUNTIES, GA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michele Lewis" <frugalmom@earthlink.net> > To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 8:06 AM > Subject: [GAGEN] Ok, now I am mad > > > This is for you folks out there that are complaining about county web sites that > are mostly links... > > The archives are searchable. Therefore, I think every available bit of info > should be there. I might be looking for some info on a particular person and I > think he is in one county when really he is in another. The search feature of > the archives handles that. > > If anyone were to take a look at the contributors of the stuff on the McDuffie > archives page they would see my name a lot. They can not say that I am not doing > anything buy providing links! I have persoanally surveyed 27 cemeteries in less > than a month. > > If they want to be so petty about it, I could always pull all the cemeteries I > have surveyed off Rootsweb completely and give no one access to it. I could > write a cemetery book and get paid for it. > > The whole purpose of GenWeb is to make genealogical info free and accessible to > genealogists worldwide. Have they forgotten this? > > I had no idea at all that GenWeb was so political!!! I have been using the info > on the pages for several years, at least 6. I have always wanted to be a part > of it. > > This is really starting to get ridiculous. > > Michele Lewis > McDuffie Co, GA > > P.S. But just to satisfy you people that oppose the links... > > I do have some stuff on my web site that is not on the archives. For example, > James Malone, who can do great custom graphics, has drawn me a great map of > McDuffie which shows all the old place names that aren't in existence anymore > but you will find in old records. That won't go to the archives because it is > not searchable. > > Another thing that is not on the archives is the list of lookup people which I > hope to increase. I think doing lookups for other people is very important. > > Another thing that I am working on is a list of surnames that are being > researched in McDuffie Co with names and email addresses of the researchers so > that you can hook up with other people working on your lines. > > It is STUPID to have a copy of the material on the archives page AND the web > site. It just takes up valuable space on the server. We are supposed to be one > big happy family. This is not supposed to be a territorial issue. The info on > the archives is for everyone and I am happy to provide links to it so that > people can find the info they need. > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Have you added something signifigant to your website? Advertise it on this > list! > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > This list is for volunteers of the GAGenWeb Project. If you wish to address only the GAGenWeb Board, send your email to: > <GAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> > >

Peoples, Over the last day or so, I seem to have been the voice of reason. Here we go again (sounds like a peachy Ronald Reagan line, huh?). Seriously, there is a place for the Archives and there is a place for the County Pages. The idea is that they can all work together to make it happen. As a general rule, I encourage all of my contributors to send anything to contribute both to me and to the Archives. In this manner, the data is kept in two places. That means it is never lost. I have zero problems with anyone linking to the Archives from their county pages. It actually makes it much easier to handle, and it frees us up for more important duties - like transcribing, answering questions and the other things we do as CC's. So, let's all agree to disagree on this. Some of us have an appreciation for the Archives. Some of us see the Archives as competition. But there is a way to make the two work together. Let's focus on that. Richard On Wed, 09 Apr 2003 11:46:15 -0400, John Holback wrote > Then why don't you provide a direct link to the Archives County Site > Page and do away with your county pages as they are really a > duplication of what is at the Archives...all addresses for > government offices, schools, churches, history of county, and all of > that could all be right there at the archives..what do you need with > a county page....why waste the space on the WWW when it is no longer > needed in your situation...Why make the visitors go through the > county site to just get to the Archives? Just put the link to the > Archives on to he GAGenWeb Project County Index page and then save your > visitors a bit of time? And spend your time just building up the Archives. > But leave those who intend to keep material on the county level > alone? Those who have no content on the county just have it online > for what? make a direct link to the archives....do away with your > county page...and just set up :"all" in the archives...there are > already links there to go to the Mail Lists and Message Boards and > most of the County Archivists have also provided other material > which meets the county requirements...That is what I am > saying....but there are those of us who plan to keep the material at > the county website and do not intend to change from that. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robertson" <lrober@plantationcable.net> > To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 9:28 AM > Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Ok, now I am mad > > > Although I am not mad about it, I agree with Michele that the Archives has > a > > very important part in our project. I personally would like to see more > > state-wide files and the Archives is a good substitute for that. In > addition to > > being searchable, we as developers of the files do not have to maintain > them if > > they are in Archives. I have most all the large files - census - > marriages- > > cemeteries- tax digest - etc in Archives and provide links to those files > from > > the Haralson County and Monroe County pages. With them managing the files, > I can > > proceed to develop others. > > > > I have never understood the animosity toward Archives. I have contributed > the > > files for PERMANENT records for the counties I work with. My sole reason > for > > participating in this project is to get records on line for ALL > RESEARCHERS, not > > to build a personal cache. I am in the process of transcribing the 1870 > census > > for Monroe County and the thought occurred to me that the enumerator had > no idea > > that 133 years after he took this census that someone would be trying to > > decipher his handwriting. I hope that the work I am doing today will be > > available 133 years in the future and I want that work preserved. When I > retire > > from the coordinator position, I will pass on what I have on the pages to > the > > next coordinator, however, I do not want the preservation of these records > to be > > at the whelm of that coordinator. I want them there to stay. > > > > The GaGenWeb project is so important to preservation of our history and I > desire > > nothing more than to be able to participate in the project in an enjoyable > > environment with support from other coordinators as well as our regional > and > > state coordinator. > > > > I have never had a complaint from a RESEARCHER regarding the links. Most > of them > > are very appreciative of the fact that we have worked so hard to provide > the > > information for them. There is a place here for both "home pages" and > archived > > files. > > > > Liz Robertson > > Coordinator > > HARALSON AND MONROE COUNTIES, GA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michele Lewis" <frugalmom@earthlink.net> > > To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 8:06 AM > > Subject: [GAGEN] Ok, now I am mad > > > > > > This is for you folks out there that are complaining about county web > sites that > > are mostly links... > > > > The archives are searchable. Therefore, I think every available bit of > info > > should be there. I might be looking for some info on a particular person > and I > > think he is in one county when really he is in another. The search > feature of > > the archives handles that. > > > > If anyone were to take a look at the contributors of the stuff on the > McDuffie > > archives page they would see my name a lot. They can not say that I am not > doing > > anything buy providing links! I have persoanally surveyed 27 cemeteries > in less > > than a month. > > > > If they want to be so petty about it, I could always pull all the > cemeteries I > > have surveyed off Rootsweb completely and give no one access to it. I > could > > write a cemetery book and get paid for it. > > > > The whole purpose of GenWeb is to make genealogical info free and > accessible to > > genealogists worldwide. Have they forgotten this? > > > > I had no idea at all that GenWeb was so political!!! I have been using > the info > > on the pages for several years, at least 6. I have always wanted to be a > part > > of it. > > > > This is really starting to get ridiculous. > > > > Michele Lewis > > McDuffie Co, GA > > > > P.S. But just to satisfy you people that oppose the links... > > > > I do have some stuff on my web site that is not on the archives. For > example, > > James Malone, who can do great custom graphics, has drawn me a great map > of > > McDuffie which shows all the old place names that aren't in existence > anymore > > but you will find in old records. That won't go to the archives because > it is > > not searchable. > > > > Another thing that is not on the archives is the list of lookup people > which I > > hope to increase. I think doing lookups for other people is very > important. > > > > Another thing that I am working on is a list of surnames that are being > > researched in McDuffie Co with names and email addresses of the > researchers so > > that you can hook up with other people working on your lines. > > > > It is STUPID to have a copy of the material on the archives page AND the > web > > site. It just takes up valuable space on the server. We are supposed to > be one > > big happy family. This is not supposed to be a territorial issue. The > info on > > the archives is for everyone and I am happy to provide links to it so that > > people can find the info they need. > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > > Have you added something signifigant to your website? Advertise it on > this > > list! > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > > This list is for volunteers of the GAGenWeb Project. If you wish to > address only the GAGenWeb Board, send your email to: > > <GAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Got a problem? Contact your RC or ASC at GAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com