Wyndell said: > If the cc's could have known the work, tearing out of the hair, the > crying, and all the other 'stuff' that the committee went thru on that > particular decision, I don't think they would be so quick to judge. My > archives show some 933 emails pertaining to the decision made in this > case. > > However..... having said all that to defend that decision, I do not > know all the background on the other incidents that brought all this > forward. I understand the need for information to be contained within > a committee, and not all released to the public. There lies the heart of the problem. We don't know. We didn't know. That line to walk between confidentiality and letting people know. Err to far one way or the other and there are problems. But at the same time, people can only work with what they know and are told. The less people know, the more they fear. It's human nature. I've said publicly more than once that we are here today at this stage because of Secrecy. I stand here and say that when CCs are removed and fellow CCs are left guessing what avenues for defence were available to them before they were removed - that we get scared. It doesn't matter if that is the right reaction or not, it is the human one. I am sure I am not alone in this from what I have seen here. But the expectation that we just need to follow along and assume that a decision was tough and it took 900+ messages to reach an educated decision is a very unrealistic demand to make on volunteers. As is the assumption that we won't be curious or in fear we may be next. Derek Nichols Echols County