Welcome Mike!! Bettie <>< Walton County -- A man sees in the world what he carries in his heart. > Please Join me in welcoming our new Grady Co CC Mike Fisher. Welcome aboard Mike!! If you need any help this is the place to get it, all you need to do is ask. >

\\\\\\\ The USGenWeb Census Project R /////// ///// http://www.us-census.org \\\\\\ ________ /////// Census Upload Report \\\\\\\\ ________ ________ /////////// 24 July 2007 \\\\\\\\\\\ ________ _Mil / 1910 / T624-1784 Dist/Twp/City EDs: 223, 283, and 285 Transcribed by Linda Talbott Proofread by L. Talbott http://ftp.us-census.org/pub/usgenweb/census/_mil/1910/t624-1784/ ed223-pg158a.txt Prison Ship Manili ed283-pg189a.txt USS Gopher ed285-pg191a.txt US Cable Boat Cyrus W. Field _index.txt _partial.txt GA / Troup / 1910 (Partial) Dist/Twp/City ED: 132 and part of ED:133 Transcribed by Ross Jones Proofread by not yet http://ftp.us-census.org/pub/usgenweb/census/ga/troup/1910/ ed132- (5 files) LaGrange City, GMD 655 ed132-pg066a.txt LaGrange City, GMD 656 5 index files _partial.txt GA / Washington / 1910 (Partial) Dist/Twp/City EDs: 110, 111, and 112 Transcribed by Ross Jones Proofread by Lana Magiera http://ftp.us-census.org/pub/usgenweb/census/ga/washington/1910/ ed110-pg179a.txt Buncombe, MD 136 ed111-(2 files) Riddleville, MD 1263 ed112-(2 files) Cleveland MD 1384, and Stonewall MD 1345 24 index files _ed-info.txt *****NOTE***** The above transcriptions are added to the complete listing of transcriptions that can be viewed at the following address: _/_/_/_/_/ On-Line Inventory of Transcribed Census Files \_\_\_\_\_ //// http://www.us-census.org/inventory/ \\\\ Ron Eason, Coordinator rkeason@comcast.net The USGenWeb Census Project R http://www.us-census.org "Permission Granted to reprint and/or resend, this list only, to others" Direct upload report questions to: censusuploadreport@usgennet.net ************************************************* Throughout the year give something that will keep giving not only to others but will return something to you as well. And Thank You! http://www.usgennet.org/index.html#join *************************************************

Welcome Lynda! Bettie <>< Walton County -- A man sees in the world what he carries in his heart. > Well we have a New Fulton Co CC Lynda Monnig. So please Join me in welcoming her to our Group. > >

I would suggest looking for estate/will records and the deed books in Troup Co. to start. If she was given her freedom then it was most likely recorded in one of those type records but that doesn't mean it couldn't have been from another county. Debra -----Original Message----- From: gagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Virginia Crilley Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 6:00 PM To: gagen-l@rootsweb.com Subject: [GAGEN] Free Blacks ?? Can someone suggest a way to find out the answer to this question? MY ANCESTOR RITTER DORSEYA/A IS LISTED ON THE CENSUS 1850 IN TROU[P COUNTY GA. SHE WAS LISTED AS A FREE BLACK WITH HER CHILDREN. HOW CAN I FIND DOCUMENTS ON HER. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF SHE WAS BORN FREE OR GIVEN HER FREEDOM. PLEASE LET ME KNOW HOW I COULD SEACH FOR THESE DOCUMENTS AND WHERE I MIGHT LOCATE THEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAVE A NICE DAY. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry for the multiple posting Bell south, kept kicking me off, telling me the mail hadn't gone through. Ah Ma Belle, isn't she sweet. Deborah Byrd

If she were given her freedom there will be a deed recording the transfer of her ownership from her master to herself. If she were freed in a will there will be a deed listing her guardians. The guardians, were to ensure that she was treated fairly in court when she bought land and to prevent from being stolen back into slavery. Usually she would have to purchase her children's freedom, so there should be deeds showing the transfer of her children to her from their former owners and her emancipation of her children. Also she would have to pay a poll tax on the slaves she own and the free people of color in her household. This was a special assessment that that she would have to pay on herself and family. So you will need to check the tax records. They will usually mention if she were born free or purchased her freedom. Also locate her family on the 1870 Census and then check the local Freedmen Bank Records. She may have used them for a bank account. The records sometimes hold an amazing amount of detail on account holders' families. If She was a Quadroon, she may have been "bright" enough to pass and her children might have been Octaroon. In some states Octaroon children were still considered whites and therefore not able to be slaves. This was the case in most states until around 1800, but too many "slaves" were moving on into society and into the frontier so the philosophy began to change and "one drop of Negro blood" attitude began to control, as long as a person had one drop of Negro blood they were considered a Negro and therefore a slave, if enslaved. Idon't know when the concept changed in Georgia. I child was considered free only if it was born to a free mother. The father could have been free and the mother enslaved and the child would have been enslaved. > > From: Virginia Crilley <varcsix@hot.rr.com> > Date: 2007/07/23 Mon PM 01:00:18 EDT > To: gagen-l@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GAGEN] Free Blacks ?? > > Can someone suggest a way to find out the answer to this question? > > MY ANCESTOR RITTER DORSEYA/A IS LISTED ON THE CENSUS 1850 IN TROU[P COUNTY > GA. SHE WAS LISTED AS A FREE BLACK WITH HER CHILDREN. HOW CAN I FIND > DOCUMENTS ON HER. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF SHE WAS BORN FREE OR GIVEN HER > FREEDOM. PLEASE LET ME KNOW HOW I COULD SEACH FOR THESE DOCUMENTS AND WHERE > I MIGHT LOCATE THEM. > THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAVE A NICE DAY. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

If she was emancipated she will have a deed recording her freedom being given to her, or if it was given to her in a will there will a deed listing of who her white guardians were, these men and sometimes rarely women, were to oversee her transactions and ensure that she gets a fair shake in the courts when she goes to buy land and prevent her from being stolen back into slavery. Most likely her children were not freed when she was freed so her children were purchased from their owners there will be deeds showing the transfer of ownership. Since she was a Free woman of color she will have to pay of poll tax on her slaves and on any free people of color that she has in her household. This will be a special assessment on them, so the tax records are a good place to look. Also check were the family was living in the 1870 census, then look in the Freedman bank records. There may be information in there about where the family came from, and how long they may have been free before the civil war. She might have been "bright" enough to have passed or even to have been quadroon or octaroon. If she or her children were Quadroon then the next generation of mixing with white would have made them Octaroon and until the 1800's that would have required that the children be released, for they would have been considered white. If she herself were Octaroon she would have been considered white under most state laws, after 1800, the doctrine of one drop of Negro blood in the lineage came into and the Octaroon practice was dropped in most of the eastern seaboard states. Deborah Byrd > > From: Virginia Crilley <varcsix@hot.rr.com> > Date: 2007/07/23 Mon PM 01:00:18 EDT > To: gagen-l@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GAGEN] Free Blacks ?? > > Can someone suggest a way to find out the answer to this question? > > MY ANCESTOR RITTER DORSEYA/A IS LISTED ON THE CENSUS 1850 IN TROU[P COUNTY > GA. SHE WAS LISTED AS A FREE BLACK WITH HER CHILDREN. HOW CAN I FIND > DOCUMENTS ON HER. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF SHE WAS BORN FREE OR GIVEN HER > FREEDOM. PLEASE LET ME KNOW HOW I COULD SEACH FOR THESE DOCUMENTS AND WHERE > I MIGHT LOCATE THEM. > THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAVE A NICE DAY. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

If she was emancipated she will have a deed recording her freedom being given to her, or if it was given to her in a will there will a deed listing of who her white guardians were, these men and sometimes rarely women, were to oversee her transactions and ensure that she gets a fair shake in the courts when she goes to buy land and prevent her from being stolen back into slavery. Most likely her children were not freed when she was freed so her children were purchased from their owners there will be deeds showing the transfer of ownership. Since she was a Free woman of color she will have to pay of poll tax on her slaves and on any free people of color that she has in her household. This will be a special assessment on them, so the tax records are a good place to look. Also check were the family was living in the 1870 census, then look in the Freedman bank records. There may be information in there about where the family came from, and how long they may have been free before the civil war. She might have been "bright" enough to have passed or even to have been quadroon or octaroon. If she or her children were Quadroon then the next generation of mixing with white would have made them Octaroon and until the 1800's that would have required that the children be released, for they would have been considered white. If she herself were Octaroon she would have been considered white under most state laws, after 1800, the doctrine of one drop of Negro blood in the lineage came into and the Octaroon practice was dropped in most of the eastern seaboard states. Deborah Byrd > > From: Virginia Crilley <varcsix@hot.rr.com> > Date: 2007/07/23 Mon PM 01:00:18 EDT > To: gagen-l@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GAGEN] Free Blacks ?? > > Can someone suggest a way to find out the answer to this question? > > MY ANCESTOR RITTER DORSEYA/A IS LISTED ON THE CENSUS 1850 IN TROU[P COUNTY > GA. SHE WAS LISTED AS A FREE BLACK WITH HER CHILDREN. HOW CAN I FIND > DOCUMENTS ON HER. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF SHE WAS BORN FREE OR GIVEN HER > FREEDOM. PLEASE LET ME KNOW HOW I COULD SEACH FOR THESE DOCUMENTS AND WHERE > I MIGHT LOCATE THEM. > THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAVE A NICE DAY. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

When a bondsperson is freed, the slave owner writes out a document, much like a deed record, and gives it to the slave. Depending on the laws of the state, usually nothing more is done. Sometimes, the freedom paper has to be filed in the court house, because the county wants their taxes, free blacks usually had to pay extra taxes. I believe in the state of North Carolina, a free person could not stay longer than 30 days in the state. Therefore, the Georgia court houses may not have any kind of record. I have yet to find any "freedom" papers in Glynn County. The only documents I have found here regarding slaves are deeds of sale and estate records. I have only found one actual slave purchase document and that record was in the possession of the slave owner descendants and not the court house. I would also suggest getting a book on tracing Af.-Am. Ancestors to find out the different slave laws in the states and how one would obtain freedom, etc. Firstly though, are you sure they were black and not of another nationality? I did find a 40 year old Mack Dorsey in Atlanta in 1870 with a daughter named Ritter. The 1850 Troup census had a 21 year old Mat Dorsey, which could have been an "auditory" error on the enumerator's part; they may have said Mack and the enumerator heard Mat. There is a Freedman's Bank record from 1873 for Mack Dorsey but he has absolutely no information. Another Mack Dorsey was in Point Pleasant, Louisiana, his record is from 5 April 1870 and he lists his father as Sampson Dorsey deceased. The 1870 Troup census had a Samford Dorsey age 12. This Mack had a mother named Patsy who was also deceased and his siblings were Sam, Sy, and Patsy. Good luck! -----Original Message----- From: gagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Virginia Crilley Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 1:00 PM To: gagen-l@rootsweb.com Subject: [GAGEN] Free Blacks ?? Can someone suggest a way to find out the answer to this question? MY ANCESTOR RITTER DORSEYA/A IS LISTED ON THE CENSUS 1850 IN TROU[P COUNTY GA. SHE WAS LISTED AS A FREE BLACK WITH HER CHILDREN. HOW CAN I FIND DOCUMENTS ON HER. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF SHE WAS BORN FREE OR GIVEN HER FREEDOM. PLEASE LET ME KNOW HOW I COULD SEACH FOR THESE DOCUMENTS AND WHERE I MIGHT LOCATE THEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAVE A NICE DAY. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I also urge you to vote in the National Elections. I can't begin to tell the importance of getting out the vote and electing people that will be supportive of the CC's in the USGenWeb Project. Like me - you probably just want to do your websites and who cares about the politics of the Project. <smiles> Even though GAGenWeb has been running as smooth as glass with the leadership that we have had the past few years, it wasn't always so and the day could come that things could change. As the CC's of this Project WE are its backbone. WE do the work and if not for us, we wouldn't have a project. WE need to see that we elect good people to make sure that we are treated fairly and with the respect that we deserve. We have some very important areas on the ballot, such as National Coordinator and Representative at Large and an amendment to our bylaws. If you don't know the people running, ask a friend, contact your current Reps in the project, contact Virginia, or your State Coordinator and ASC, or contact me. We are willing to help you find what you need to make that important decision. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgwelections/national-2007/index-2007.htm If you've not voted yet, please do it today!! Time is running out. Jan Cortez NE/NC CC Rep - USGenWeb Project Banks Co. Coordinator - GAGenWeb

Here are some of the records described in the GA State Archives: Ordinary/Superior Court Records. [Please note: Many of these records are found in either the Ordinary (Probate) Court or the Superior Court, depending on the county.] Apprenticeship/Indenture Registers, 1800-1930: These records primarily document freedmen, but also document whites. Available for 34 counties: Baldwin, Campbell, Carroll, Chatham, Chattooga, Cherokee, Clay, Clinch, Coweta, Dooly, Glascock, Haralson, Jackson, Laurens, Liberty, Lincoln, Madison, McDuffie, Meriwether, Mitchell, Monroe, Morgan, Oglethorpe, Polk, Pulaski, Putnam, Sumter, Taliaferro, Terrell, Thomas, Washington, Webster, Whitfield, and Wilkes. Free Persons of Color Registers, 1780-1865: Registers usually include name, age, occupation (sometimes), property, and white sponsor. Available for 21 counties: Appling, Baldwin, Camden, Chatham, Clarke, Columbia, Elbert, Emanuel, Hancock, Jefferson, Jones, Liberty, Lincoln, Lumpkin, Morgan, Pulaski, Richmond, Screven, Taliaferro, Thomas, Warren, and Wilkes. There might also be Freedmen's bank records that could possibly have a sponsor mentioned. Depending on when Ritter died, her children's names may need to be looked up instead in order to find some link or record tying these Dorseys to a white family. If there were no other Dorseys in the vicinity (white Dorseys), it could make record searching more difficult. If all of her children were also formerly owned by a white, I would think that to free them all at once would be a pretty big deal, so she could have been free since she was much younger. Did government officials need to officiate over the freeing of slaves, or at least make some note of it during assembly proceedings? I would think it might be difficult for a former slave to move around at that time period due to fears of being taken back into slavery by others disregarding their free papers. So there is probably a pretty good chance that Ritter Dorsey didn't move far from where she was living if she was with a white family, and that all the neighbors knew that she was free and knew her "sponsor" family. Sounds like a great quest with lots of possibilities to hunt down.

Property and estate records would be the first place to look. If there are no clues on Doris' Troup County site or in the USGW Archives, check the Troup County Archives. http://www.trouparchives.org/ Of course, the Georgia Archives has the records on microfilm. Vivian At 01:00 PM 7/23/2007, you wrote: >Can someone suggest a way to find out the answer to this question? > >MY ANCESTOR RITTER DORSEYA/A IS LISTED ON THE CENSUS 1850 IN TROU[P COUNTY >GA. SHE WAS LISTED AS A FREE BLACK WITH HER CHILDREN. HOW CAN I FIND >DOCUMENTS ON HER. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF SHE WAS BORN FREE OR GIVEN HER >FREEDOM. PLEASE LET ME KNOW HOW I COULD SEACH FOR THESE DOCUMENTS AND WHERE >I MIGHT LOCATE THEM. >THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAVE A NICE DAY. > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >GAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can someone suggest a way to find out the answer to this question? MY ANCESTOR RITTER DORSEYA/A IS LISTED ON THE CENSUS 1850 IN TROU[P COUNTY GA. SHE WAS LISTED AS A FREE BLACK WITH HER CHILDREN. HOW CAN I FIND DOCUMENTS ON HER. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF SHE WAS BORN FREE OR GIVEN HER FREEDOM. PLEASE LET ME KNOW HOW I COULD SEACH FOR THESE DOCUMENTS AND WHERE I MIGHT LOCATE THEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAVE A NICE DAY.

Yes, please do vote. In addition to the National Coordinator position, please pay close attention to the race for Representative At-Large. This is a voting position and has the potential for considerable impact on the Georgia project. You can also write to me, if you have questions about the candidates. Thanks for all you do! Vivian Price Saffold Assistant State Coordinator DeKalb and Meriwether counties At 11:13 AM 7/23/2007, you wrote: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgwelections/national-2007/index-2007.htm > >If you've not voted yet, please do it today!! Time is running out. > >I've had several people ask me about the National Coordinator candidates -- >this is such an important leadership position. > >They all have interesting Campaign pages --- which may make it difficult >for you to decide. These pages do show what the Candidates main priority >would be .... > >Please don't hesitate to write me privately if you want to know my views -- >and of course, don't hesitate to write each of the people running for the >office, as I'm sure they will respond to you. > >Virginia Crilley >CC Taylor, Upson, Jones > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >GAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Welcome Mike and all of the other new CCs! Melody McCook Coffee CC Atkinson CC >> >>Please Join me in welcoming our new Grady Co CC Mike Fisher. Welcome >>aboard Mike!! If you need any help this is the place to get it, all >>you need to do is ask. >> >>Ed >>

http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgwelections/national-2007/index-2007.htm If you've not voted yet, please do it today!! Time is running out. I've had several people ask me about the National Coordinator candidates -- this is such an important leadership position. They all have interesting Campaign pages --- which may make it difficult for you to decide. These pages do show what the Candidates main priority would be .... Please don't hesitate to write me privately if you want to know my views -- and of course, don't hesitate to write each of the people running for the office, as I'm sure they will respond to you. Virginia Crilley CC Taylor, Upson, Jones

Welcome Mike....need help just ask. Nancy At 08:05 PM 7/22/2007, you wrote: >Hey Yall, > >Please Join me in welcoming our new Grady Co CC Mike Fisher. Welcome >aboard Mike!! If you need any help this is the place to get it, all >you need to do is ask. > >Ed > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >GAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************* Nancy Gay Crawford Always try to be Fair, Honest & Kind!!

http://www.thegaproject.org/blog/?p=20 My message is advocating that the CC get involved with their County Mailing List (most of them are on Rootsweb, but other counties have active ones on other servers) (If you want some help on this, just write me privately) I posted this information on our Blog (the section reserved for CCs to help one another).... if you haven't signed up for using the Blog, http://www.thegaproject.org/blog do take a look. One of the advantages that I see in using the Blog in contrast to this GAGen List, is that this Blog is a more private way for the CCs to share information and not worry about the Archive being public to all readers. It also allows us to read at our own leisure without getting too many messages in our "In Box". Since we have several new CCs coming on board, I think the Blog might be a place to help them get better acquainted. Virginia Crilley CC Taylor, Upson, Jones

Welcome, Mike! Vivian ASC At 08:05 PM 7/22/2007, you wrote: >Hey Yall, > >Please Join me in welcoming our new Grady Co CC Mike Fisher. Welcome >aboard Mike!! If you need any help this is the place to get it, all >you need to do is ask. > >Ed > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >GAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Welcome Mike! Kim Gordon www.youravon.com/kimgordon Arizona AHGP Athens County, Ohio AHGP Butler County, Ohio AHGP Coconino County, AZ AHGP Crawford County, GA AHGP Crawford County GAGenWeb UGA Cooperative Extension, Crawford County Crawford County Historical Society Crawford County Saving Graves Ed & Kim's Connections Combat Veterans Group, Inc. Habersham County, GA AHGP Habersham County Saving Graves Hawaii AHGP Highland County, Ohio AHGP Historic Crawford Foundation, Inc. Meigs County, Ohio AHGP Montgomery County, Ohio AHGP Ohio AHGP Turner County, GAGenWeb Worth County, GAGenWeb >From: <edeye1@bellsouth.net> >Reply-To: gagen@rootsweb.com >To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [GAGEN] New Grady Co CC >Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 19:05:25 -0500 > >Hey Yall, > >Please Join me in welcoming our new Grady Co CC Mike Fisher. Welcome aboard >Mike!! If you need any help this is the place to get it, all you need to do >is ask. > >Ed > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >GAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ http://liveearth.msn.com