-----Original Message----- From: state-coord-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:state-coord-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tina S. Vickery Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 8:23 AM To: usgenweb-discuss@rootsweb.com; state-coord@rootsweb.com Subject: [STATE-COORD] Fw: Statement on discussion/negotiations - Mastheadfor USGenWeb Rootweb hosted sites. Please feel free to forward to appropriate Project lists. Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: Tina S. Vickery To: board@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 8:11 AM Subject: Statement on discussion/negotiations - Masthead for USGenWeb Rootweb hosted sites. As some of you may know, I attended the FGS conference in Fort Wayne, IN in mid-August where the USGenWeb Project hosted a booth. While there, I had the pleasure of meeting Sean Lloyd [again], Associate Community Development Manager for rootsweb.com and Donna Popelish, RootsWeb Help desk Manager. It was a pleasure to finally meet Donna, who is long overdue a huge THANK YOU from the USGenWeb Project for her care and responsiveness to the Project. She is one of our unsung heroes for her service! After the election, but prior to September 1, I received an email from Sean, requesting a teleconference with David Graham, RootsWeb Product Manager; Anna Fechter, Community Operations Manager The Generations Network; and Sean. While I agreed to the teleconfernce, I reiterated to them, that I was not National Coordinator yet. But I did agree to listen. And listen I did. Rootsweb and The Generation Network are very eager to work with us, (the Board and the Project membership), to facilitate a design for our masthead that distinctly displays our mission and goals while at the same time addresses their business concerns and decisions. I have no reason to believe that this negotiation will not be done in good faith, as both parties are eager to enter into a mutually acceptable agreement. The conclusion of our conversation was that they would prepare and forward to me a proposal for presentation to the Advisory Board and the Project. I will keep you all abreast of the discussions as they progress. Tina Vickery, National Coordinator USGenWeb Project ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STATE-COORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yall may want to read this good news I think and it looks like this problem may be over. http://blogs.ancestry.com/circle/?p=1792 Ed

-----Original Message----- From: usgenweb-se-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:usgenweb-se-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bare67deb@aol.com Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 6:18 AM To: USGENWEB-SW@rootsweb.com; usgenweb-se@rootsweb.com; USGenWeb-NW@rootsweb.com; usgenweb-ne-l@rootsweb.com; USGENWEB-DISCUSS@rootsweb.com; usgwp-cc@usgwp.org Subject: [USGW-SE] Election Committee Announcement **Please Forward as appropriate to USGenWeb Members** The Election Committee is looking for replacement volunteers to fill seats currently vacant, or which will become vacant on 1 January 2007. The "job" includes: Developing a working relationship with SCs and/or ASCs to maintain a current Project membership list, and assisting in all polls and elections, especially during the months of June and part of July to host the USGenWeb Project's Annual Election. Volunteers will have the satisfaction of working with an excellent group of people to handle an important responsibility that allows our members to have a voice in our elections. Any member of the project who is eligible to vote is eligible for membership in the EC, the exception being that no Advisory Board member may serve as a working member of the EC. If interested, please send Email to Jo Branch <bjcb@bellsouth.net> Please state your full name and a word about where you currently are a volunteer, including the URL of you site(s). The following positions are currently open: RAL - 1 year replacement Term ending December 31, 2008 RAL - 2 year replacement Term ending December 31, 2009 NENC - 2 year replacement Illinois, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont. Term ending December 31, 2009 NWPL - 2 year replacement Alaska, Colorado, Idaho, Iowa, Minnesota, South Dakota. Term ending 31 December 2009. SEMA - 1 year replacement Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, New Jersey, South Carolina, Tennessee. Term ending 31 December 2008. SWSC - 2 year replacement Arizona, Arkansas, California, Hawaii, Kansas, Louisiana Term ending 31 December 2009. SPAR - 2 year replacement State Archives. Term ending 31 December 2009 Thank you, The USGenWeb Election Committee ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to USGENWEB-SE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I still use the same one on the bottom of each page that I've used for years. I guess I must of gotten it from the USGenWeb Archives: ************************ This file was contributed for use by the Gwinnett County GAGenWeb Project by: Pat Sabin (or whomever) May 2, 2007 USGENWEB NOTICE: In keeping with our policy of providing free information on the Internet, material may be freely used by non-commercial entities, as long as this message remains on all copied material, AND permission is obtained from the contributor of the file. These electronic pages may NOT be reproduced in any format for profit or presentation by other organizations. Persons or organizations desiring to use this material for non-commercial purposes, MUST obtain the written consent of the contributor, OR the legal representative of the submitter, and contact the listed USGenWeb archivist with proof of this consent. ************ I have prominent references to the USGenWeb Project on my counties' main pages. I feel comfortable that visitors won't be confused about where they've landed. Pat Gwinnett County - http://www.oldplaces.org/gwinnettga ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe" <jborderman@cox.net> To: <gagen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [GAGEN] FW: [STATE-COORD] ANNOUNCEMENT - Ancestry.com Issue >I wonder if it wouldn't be better at the top of each page. If someone > is looking for particular > information on a site they might not get to the bottom of the page but > they would see it at the > top. Just create an incHeader.htm like the incFooter.htm and include it > right after <BODY>. > The page will load at the top and they can't miss it. > > Kemis Massey wrote: >> Ed, >> >> I currently have the following on the bottom of most of my pages. Would you >> replace it with the Vivian's? Or could the two be blended? I'm sure others >> have similar messages on their sites. >> >> All materials contained on these pages are furnished for the free use of >> those engaged researching their family origins. Any commercial use, or, >> other electronic posting of any files/pages without the consent of the >> host/author of these pages is prohibited. All images used on these pages >> were obtained from sources permitting free distribution, or generated by the >> author, and are subject to the same restrictions/permissions. All persons >> contributing material for posting on these pages does so in recognition of >> their free, non-commercial distribution, and further, is responsible to >> assure that no copyright is violated by their submission >> >> Whatever we do, IMHO we should be consistent - at least through GAGen. We >> can't speak for the rest of the project. If we start, others would see and >> do something similar. >> >> kemis >> >> mailto:gagen-bounces@rootsweb.com]OnBehalf Of MThompson >> Thanks Ed >> -Marc >> >> -- "Ed Gordon" <edeye1@hotmail.com> wrote: >> Hey Yall, >> >> You may want to read the email below that came across the State Coord >> list. >> >> Vivian came up with a disclaimer that we all may want to add to our >> pages. >> >> "If you have arrived at this site via a paid subscription database, >> please know that the data contained here has been donated by hardworking >> volunteers. This material and much more is available free of charge >> through the USGenWeb Project and its state and county Web sites." >> >> Thanks Vivian!! >> >> She and I have been discussing this problem and we are not sure that the >> above disclaimer would show up on any pages they already have?? >> >> There is no need to panic. The NC is working on resolving this matter >> asap. So we need to think carefully about our options. >> >> Ed >> >> Scott Burow >> >> Dear Project members: >> >> It has been reported as follows: >> >> "Ancestry has a new "Internet Biographical Collection" in its Deluxe >> Collection that includes USGenWeb sites, as well as just about >> everything else as far as I can see at first glance. When you click on the >> original pages, you sometimes get the USGenWeb copyright notice . . ." >> >> Source Information: >> "Ancestry.com. Internet Biographical Collection >> [database on-line]. >> Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2007. >> Original data: >> Biographical info taken from various English web sites. See specific >> website address provided with each entry. >> >> About Internet Biographical Collection This database contains a sampling >> of biographical sketches found on English language web pages throughout the >> >> entire World Wide Web. Web pages can vary greatly in the amount of >> information they contain about a given person, and in the number of >> related and unrelated people mentioned on the same page. >> The information source and the central topic of each page will also vary >> greatly. >> >> For more information about this database, click here. [link provided in >> original] >> >> This database contains a sampling of biographical sketches found on >> English language web pages throughout the entire World Wide Web. Web pages >> can >> vary greatly in the amount of information they contain about a given person, >> and in the number of related and unrelated people mentioned on the same >> page. The information source and the central topic of each page will also >> vary >> greatly. Given facts should be verified using other sources. One unique >> and valuable feature of this web-based collection is the number of >> hyperlinks leading from each page in the collection to other web pages of >> possible >> interest on related topics." >> >> --------------------------------- >> >> Please be assured that the USGenWeb AB is investigating the situation >> and is attempting to contact Rootsweb to gain further facts about the >> situation. >> Meaningful progress will be reported to the USGenWeb membership. >> >> Meanwhile, please try to refrain from starting or contributing to the >> spread of rumors, etc. and watch for additional status information as it is >> available. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with >> the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I wonder if it wouldn't be better at the top of each page. If someone is looking for particular information on a site they might not get to the bottom of the page but they would see it at the top. Just create an incHeader.htm like the incFooter.htm and include it right after <BODY>. The page will load at the top and they can't miss it. Kemis Massey wrote: > Ed, > > I currently have the following on the bottom of most of my pages. Would you > replace it with the Vivian's? Or could the two be blended? I'm sure others > have similar messages on their sites. > > All materials contained on these pages are furnished for the free use of > those engaged researching their family origins. Any commercial use, or, > other electronic posting of any files/pages without the consent of the > host/author of these pages is prohibited. All images used on these pages > were obtained from sources permitting free distribution, or generated by the > author, and are subject to the same restrictions/permissions. All persons > contributing material for posting on these pages does so in recognition of > their free, non-commercial distribution, and further, is responsible to > assure that no copyright is violated by their submission > > Whatever we do, IMHO we should be consistent - at least through GAGen. We > can't speak for the rest of the project. If we start, others would see and > do something similar. > > kemis > > mailto:gagen-bounces@rootsweb.com]OnBehalf Of MThompson > Thanks Ed > -Marc > > -- "Ed Gordon" <edeye1@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hey Yall, > > You may want to read the email below that came across the State Coord > list. > > Vivian came up with a disclaimer that we all may want to add to our > pages. > > "If you have arrived at this site via a paid subscription database, > please know that the data contained here has been donated by hardworking > volunteers. This material and much more is available free of charge > through the USGenWeb Project and its state and county Web sites." > > Thanks Vivian!! > > She and I have been discussing this problem and we are not sure that the > above disclaimer would show up on any pages they already have?? > > There is no need to panic. The NC is working on resolving this matter > asap. So we need to think carefully about our options. > > Ed > > Scott Burow > > Dear Project members: > > It has been reported as follows: > > "Ancestry has a new "Internet Biographical Collection" in its Deluxe > Collection that includes USGenWeb sites, as well as just about > everything else as far as I can see at first glance. When you click on the > original pages, you sometimes get the USGenWeb copyright notice . . ." > > Source Information: > "Ancestry.com. Internet Biographical Collection > [database on-line]. > Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2007. > Original data: > Biographical info taken from various English web sites. See specific > website address provided with each entry. > > About Internet Biographical Collection This database contains a sampling > of biographical sketches found on English language web pages throughout the > > entire World Wide Web. Web pages can vary greatly in the amount of > information they contain about a given person, and in the number of > related and unrelated people mentioned on the same page. > The information source and the central topic of each page will also vary > greatly. > > For more information about this database, click here. [link provided in > original] > > This database contains a sampling of biographical sketches found on > English language web pages throughout the entire World Wide Web. Web pages > can > vary greatly in the amount of information they contain about a given person, > and in the number of related and unrelated people mentioned on the same > page. The information source and the central topic of each page will also > vary > greatly. Given facts should be verified using other sources. One unique > and valuable feature of this web-based collection is the number of > hyperlinks leading from each page in the collection to other web pages of > possible > interest on related topics." > > --------------------------------- > > Please be assured that the USGenWeb AB is investigating the situation > and is attempting to contact Rootsweb to gain further facts about the > situation. > Meaningful progress will be reported to the USGenWeb membership. > > Meanwhile, please try to refrain from starting or contributing to the > spread of rumors, etc. and watch for additional status information as it is > available. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Well hello neighbors, Ed and I live between Fort Valley and Roberta! Kim Gordon Crawford County GAGenWeb UGA Cooperative Extension, Crawford County From: "Sandy Smith" <McDuffieGA@cox.net> >Reply-To: gagen@rootsweb.com >To: <gagen@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [GAGEN] New Peach Website >Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:32:50 -0400 > >Great site Joe! > >I'm the CC for McDuffie County, but I live in Warner Robins. So if you >ever >need anything from down this way, just holler! > >Sandy Smith >McDuffie CC > >-----Original Message----- >From: gagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >Behalf Of Joe >Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 12:58 PM >To: gagen >Subject: Re: [GAGEN] New Peach Website > >I want to invite all of you to visit the GAGEN Peach Website. >I have been putting a lot of work into it and I think it is worth >your time to look at it!!! > >If anyone would like help in doing something similar to this >please feel free to contact me. I live in Macon. > >Joe Borderieux >Peach CC > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >GAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in >the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >GAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Tease your brain--play Clink! Win cool prizes! http://club.live.com/clink.aspx?icid=clink_hotmailtextlink2

Just incase Bill was one of your submitters. Ed -----Original Message----- From: Carole Mortensen [mailto:carole@designitprintit.com] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 4:05 PM To: edeye1@hotmail.com Subject: William Fish (Bill) Hi, I thought I would let you know that my uncle William Fish passed away. I know he did a lot of work with the genealogy sites and thought you would like to know. His neice, Carole Mortensen

-----Original Message----- From: state-coord-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:state-coord-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Scott Burow Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 7:37 PM To: usgenweb-discuss@rootsweb.com; state-coord@rootsweb.com Subject: [STATE-COORD] Further Update on Ancestry's IBC situation I have been advised by The Generations Network that everything has now been totally shut off and the cached pages have been removed from the server. As indicated, sometimes it just takes a little time to update pages, disable things, and remove the items in a live, on-line environment. Scott ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STATE-COORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think it could be added at the end of what you have. As far as I know at this moment Ancestry.com has take all the pages down or they said they have. They may put them back up in the future I don't know. But as long as folks can see that we provide free records is the main thing. Ed -----Original Message----- From: gagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kemis Massey Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 9:14 PM To: gagen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GAGEN] FW: [STATE-COORD] ANNOUNCEMENT - Ancestry.com Issue Ed, I currently have the following on the bottom of most of my pages. Would you replace it with the Vivian's? Or could the two be blended? I'm sure others have similar messages on their sites. All materials contained on these pages are furnished for the free use of those engaged researching their family origins. Any commercial use, or, other electronic posting of any files/pages without the consent of the host/author of these pages is prohibited. All images used on these pages were obtained from sources permitting free distribution, or generated by the author, and are subject to the same restrictions/permissions. All persons contributing material for posting on these pages does so in recognition of their free, non-commercial distribution, and further, is responsible to assure that no copyright is violated by their submission Whatever we do, IMHO we should be consistent - at least through GAGen. We can't speak for the rest of the project. If we start, others would see and do something similar. kemis mailto:gagen-bounces@rootsweb.com]OnBehalf Of MThompson Thanks Ed -Marc -- "Ed Gordon" <edeye1@hotmail.com> wrote: Hey Yall, You may want to read the email below that came across the State Coord list. Vivian came up with a disclaimer that we all may want to add to our pages. "If you have arrived at this site via a paid subscription database, please know that the data contained here has been donated by hardworking volunteers. This material and much more is available free of charge through the USGenWeb Project and its state and county Web sites." Thanks Vivian!! She and I have been discussing this problem and we are not sure that the above disclaimer would show up on any pages they already have?? There is no need to panic. The NC is working on resolving this matter asap. So we need to think carefully about our options. Ed Scott Burow Dear Project members: It has been reported as follows: "Ancestry has a new "Internet Biographical Collection" in its Deluxe Collection that includes USGenWeb sites, as well as just about everything else as far as I can see at first glance. When you click on the original pages, you sometimes get the USGenWeb copyright notice . . " Source Information: "Ancestry.com. Internet Biographical Collection [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2007. Original data: Biographical info taken from various English web sites. See specific website address provided with each entry. About Internet Biographical Collection This database contains a sampling of biographical sketches found on English language web pages throughout the entire World Wide Web. Web pages can vary greatly in the amount of information they contain about a given person, and in the number of related and unrelated people mentioned on the same page. The information source and the central topic of each page will also vary greatly. For more information about this database, click here. [link provided in original] This database contains a sampling of biographical sketches found on English language web pages throughout the entire World Wide Web. Web pages can vary greatly in the amount of information they contain about a given person, and in the number of related and unrelated people mentioned on the same page. The information source and the central topic of each page will also vary greatly. Given facts should be verified using other sources. One unique and valuable feature of this web-based collection is the number of hyperlinks leading from each page in the collection to other web pages of possible interest on related topics." --------------------------------- Please be assured that the USGenWeb AB is investigating the situation and is attempting to contact Rootsweb to gain further facts about the situation. Meaningful progress will be reported to the USGenWeb membership. Meanwhile, please try to refrain from starting or contributing to the spread of rumors, etc. and watch for additional status information as it is available. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ed, I currently have the following on the bottom of most of my pages. Would you replace it with the Vivian's? Or could the two be blended? I'm sure others have similar messages on their sites. All materials contained on these pages are furnished for the free use of those engaged researching their family origins. Any commercial use, or, other electronic posting of any files/pages without the consent of the host/author of these pages is prohibited. All images used on these pages were obtained from sources permitting free distribution, or generated by the author, and are subject to the same restrictions/permissions. All persons contributing material for posting on these pages does so in recognition of their free, non-commercial distribution, and further, is responsible to assure that no copyright is violated by their submission Whatever we do, IMHO we should be consistent - at least through GAGen. We can't speak for the rest of the project. If we start, others would see and do something similar. kemis mailto:gagen-bounces@rootsweb.com]OnBehalf Of MThompson Thanks Ed -Marc -- "Ed Gordon" <edeye1@hotmail.com> wrote: Hey Yall, You may want to read the email below that came across the State Coord list. Vivian came up with a disclaimer that we all may want to add to our pages. "If you have arrived at this site via a paid subscription database, please know that the data contained here has been donated by hardworking volunteers. This material and much more is available free of charge through the USGenWeb Project and its state and county Web sites." Thanks Vivian!! She and I have been discussing this problem and we are not sure that the above disclaimer would show up on any pages they already have?? There is no need to panic. The NC is working on resolving this matter asap. So we need to think carefully about our options. Ed Scott Burow Dear Project members: It has been reported as follows: "Ancestry has a new "Internet Biographical Collection" in its Deluxe Collection that includes USGenWeb sites, as well as just about everything else as far as I can see at first glance. When you click on the original pages, you sometimes get the USGenWeb copyright notice . . ." Source Information: "Ancestry.com. Internet Biographical Collection [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2007. Original data: Biographical info taken from various English web sites. See specific website address provided with each entry. About Internet Biographical Collection This database contains a sampling of biographical sketches found on English language web pages throughout the entire World Wide Web. Web pages can vary greatly in the amount of information they contain about a given person, and in the number of related and unrelated people mentioned on the same page. The information source and the central topic of each page will also vary greatly. For more information about this database, click here. [link provided in original] This database contains a sampling of biographical sketches found on English language web pages throughout the entire World Wide Web. Web pages can vary greatly in the amount of information they contain about a given person, and in the number of related and unrelated people mentioned on the same page. The information source and the central topic of each page will also vary greatly. Given facts should be verified using other sources. One unique and valuable feature of this web-based collection is the number of hyperlinks leading from each page in the collection to other web pages of possible interest on related topics." --------------------------------- Please be assured that the USGenWeb AB is investigating the situation and is attempting to contact Rootsweb to gain further facts about the situation. Meaningful progress will be reported to the USGenWeb membership. Meanwhile, please try to refrain from starting or contributing to the spread of rumors, etc. and watch for additional status information as it is available.

Great site Joe! I'm the CC for McDuffie County, but I live in Warner Robins. So if you ever need anything from down this way, just holler! Sandy Smith McDuffie CC -----Original Message----- From: gagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 12:58 PM To: gagen Subject: Re: [GAGEN] New Peach Website I want to invite all of you to visit the GAGEN Peach Website. I have been putting a lot of work into it and I think it is worth your time to look at it!!! If anyone would like help in doing something similar to this please feel free to contact me. I live in Macon. Joe Borderieux Peach CC ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Some have asked me how to get to the site, so I wanted to clarify that this is the GAGENWeb Peach County Site. The address is http://www.rootsweb.com/~gapeach/index.shtml <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Egapeach/index.shtml>. The site is an example of Cascading Style Sheets (CSS). It also uses Dynamic HTML in the form of a javascript menu. You can go from any page on the site to any other page without going back to the HOME page. It is not that difficult to program and was done using all free software to develop the website. I would be willing to help anyone setting up their site in a similar manner. Sylvia has mentioned to me about the possibility of doing a program on CSS development in Macon (Hope she was serious about that since it would be a good idea) and this could be included in that since I live in Macon. Joe Peach County Coordinator

I want to invite all of you to visit the GAGEN Peach Website. I have been putting a lot of work into it and I think it is worth your time to look at it!!! If anyone would like help in doing something similar to this please feel free to contact me. I live in Macon. Joe Borderieux Peach CC

Here is the latest on Ancestry. -----Original Message----- From: usgenweb-se-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:usgenweb-se-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Blum-Barton Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 8:03 PM To: SEMA Regional List Subject: [USGW-SE] FW: [USGENWEB-DISCUSS] Internet Biographical Collection -Update -----Original Message----- From: usgenweb-discuss-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:usgenweb-discuss-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Scott Burow Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 6:31 PM To: usgenweb-discuss@rootsweb.com; state-coord@rootsweb.com Subject: [USGENWEB-DISCUSS] Internet Biographical Collection - Update ... and what I believe will be the final update at this point. Your messages and concerns were heard and received. Scott Burow NC - USGenWeb ----- Original Message ----- From: Anna Fechter To: sburow@swbell.net Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 5:24 PM Subject: Update on Ancestry's Internet Biographical Collection Scott, I wanted to make sure that you were kept up to date with the latest developments. We have decided to remove the collection from our site. If you have any questions or concerns please feel free to contact me. "Earlier this week we launched the Internet Biographical Collection on Ancestry.com. Our goal was to offer members a search engine that focused primarily on genealogy resources. We intended this collection to help surface family history information that many people would not be able to find easily because it is often scattered among numerous websites across the Internet. We cached individual Web pages in an effort to preserve history - if a Web page featuring important family history information were taken down in the future, a cached version would still be available. Many people have expressed concerns about the collection and the search engine we created on Ancestry.com. We recognize the significant time and resources members of the genealogical community invest to make their family history research available online. Over the past few days we have reevaluated this collection's goals, caching and crawling ability, and user experience. We have decided to remove this collection and search engine from Ancestry.com for the time being. We are still dedicated to providing family historians the online tools and aggregated records that make it easier to trace their family tree and will work to develop a solution that meets those needs in a way that will be most beneficial to our customers and the community." Thank you for your continued support of RootsWeb. Kind regards, Anna Fechter ANNA FECHTER Community Operations Manager The Generations Network ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to USGENWEB-DISCUSS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 8/28/2007 4:29 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 8/28/2007 4:29 PM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to USGENWEB-SE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For the Record Thank You for Posting it. It may not do any good but it will not hurt. I was always taught its better to do something rather than nothing. Ed -----Original Message----- From: gagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sylvia C. Rankin Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 1:09 PM To: gagen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Ancestry and peach >>I doubt seriously that putting that note from Sylvia >>will do too much good. For the record, this disclaimer was not my suggestion or authoring. I posted it at the request of the SC and ASC. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>>I doubt seriously that putting that note from Sylvia >>will do too much good. For the record, this disclaimer was not my suggestion or authoring. I posted it at the request of the SC and ASC.

I agree with Vivian we need to make sure people know they don't have to pay to view all we do. Last I heard Ancestry was getting bombed with email about this problem. Ed -----Original Message----- From: gagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael and Vivian Saffold Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 7:13 AM To: gagen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Ancestry and peach Hi, Joe and everyone, My thinking behind suggesting a disclaimer was twofold: to make doubly sure researchers know the source of the Web pages they find and to reinforce the fact that they don't have to pay for data they can get for free at USGenWeb. Obviously, this idea originated while Ancestry was still charging to view our pages. All the disclaimers and copyright notices in the world will not stop some people from unethical practices. What we can do is continue to get our message of free genealogy out there. We can turn every "hit" via some other site into a little free advertising for us. Thanks to all of you for the good work you do. Vivian At 10:06 PM 8/28/2007, you wrote: >Ed, > >I really read with interest the information you provided about >Ancestry.com. I doubt seriously that putting that note from Sylvia >will do too much good. From what I was reading on that link you >provided you can get a snapshot of the page without even going to the >website!!! While they may have decided to make it free now >that means they still do not have to go to my site and see all the work >and information that has gone into it. >Plus the website in Peach will soon have the footer on every page that >says it is copyrighted and they have >no legal reason to justify using copyrighted material. I am not talking >about the information on my site, I am >talking about all the design work and effort to get that menu fully >implemented. That's what really concerns >me and if they view a portion of the page they may not even see the >copyright notice or even the menu, >because I am using incHeader.htm and incFooter.htm while they can pull >up a page without either of those >items showing (I think??) I may investigate Ancestry to see what shows >up for Peach in their new database. > > >Joe > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >GAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Joe and everyone, My thinking behind suggesting a disclaimer was twofold: to make doubly sure researchers know the source of the Web pages they find and to reinforce the fact that they don't have to pay for data they can get for free at USGenWeb. Obviously, this idea originated while Ancestry was still charging to view our pages. All the disclaimers and copyright notices in the world will not stop some people from unethical practices. What we can do is continue to get our message of free genealogy out there. We can turn every "hit" via some other site into a little free advertising for us. Thanks to all of you for the good work you do. Vivian At 10:06 PM 8/28/2007, you wrote: >Ed, > >I really read with interest the information you provided about >Ancestry.com. I doubt seriously that putting that >note from Sylvia will do too much good. From what I was reading on that >link you provided you can get a >snapshot of the page without even going to the website!!! While they >may have decided to make it free now >that means they still do not have to go to my site and see all the work >and information that has gone into it. >Plus the website in Peach will soon have the footer on every page that >says it is copyrighted and they have >no legal reason to justify using copyrighted material. I am not talking >about the information on my site, I am >talking about all the design work and effort to get that menu fully >implemented. That's what really concerns >me and if they view a portion of the page they may not even see the >copyright notice or even the menu, >because I am using incHeader.htm and incFooter.htm while they can pull >up a page without either of those >items showing (I think??) I may investigate Ancestry to see what shows >up for Peach in their new database. > > >Joe > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >GAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Ed -Marc -- "Ed Gordon" <edeye1@hotmail.com> wrote: Hey Yall, You may want to read the email below that came across the State Coord list. Vivian came up with a disclaimer that we all may want to add to our pages. "If you have arrived at this site via a paid subscription database, please know that the data contained here has been donated by hardworking volunteers. This material and much more is available free of charge through the USGenWeb Project and its state and county Web sites." Thanks Vivian!! She and I have been discussing this problem and we are not sure that the above disclaimer would show up on any pages they already have?? There is no need to panic. The NC is working on resolving this matter asap. So we need to think carefully about our options. Ed -----Original Message----- From: state-coord-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:state-coord-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Scott Burow Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 1:28 PM To: board@rootsweb.com; usgenweb-discuss@rootsweb.com; state-coord@rootsweb.com Subject: [STATE-COORD] ANNOUNCEMENT - Ancestry.com Issue Dear Project members: It has been reported as follows: "Ancestry has a new "Internet Biographical Collection" in its Deluxe Collection that includes USGenWeb sites, as well as just about everything else as far as I can see at first glance. When you click on the original pages, you sometimes get the USGenWeb copyright notice . . ." Source Information: "Ancestry.com. Internet Biographical Collection [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2007. Original data: Biographical info taken from various English web sites. See specific website address provided with each entry. About Internet Biographical Collection This database contains a sampling of biographical sketches found on English language web pages throughout the entire World Wide Web. Web pages can vary greatly in the amount of information they contain about a given person, and in the number of related and unrelated people mentioned on the same page. The information source and the central topic of each page will also vary greatly. For more information about this database, click here. [link provided in original] This database contains a sampling of biographical sketches found on English language web pages throughout the entire World Wide Web. Web pages can vary greatly in the amount of information they contain about a given person, and in the number of related and unrelated people mentioned on the same page. The information source and the central topic of each page will also vary greatly. Given facts should be verified using other sources. One unique and valuable feature of this web-based collection is the number of hyperlinks leading from each page in the collection to other web pages of possible interest on related topics." --------------------------------- Please be assured that the USGenWeb AB is investigating the situation and is attempting to contact Rootsweb to gain further facts about the situation. Meaningful progress will be reported to the USGenWeb membership. Meanwhile, please try to refrain from starting or contributing to the spread of rumors, etc. and watch for additional status information as it is available. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STATE-COORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Surprise your friends with a FREE Juno Video Mail! Sign up today. http://track.juno.com/s/lc?u=http://ads.addynamix.com/click/2-2130421-177

Most of the hits for GA are from the Political Graveyard site. They list our county pages on them that link to our sites. To search for the USGENWEB stuff on there, you type USGENWEB in the keyword block with nothing else and it lists every page taken from there, most of it is archive stuff. There's so much of it though, I can't check all of it. If you know exact names of the submitter of a file in Peach County, try searching for it that way. For example I search for Virginia Crilley as the name with USGENWEB as the keyword. Since she is our archives person it shows every file that they have spidered so far with her name on it. Sandy -----Original Message----- From: gagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:36 PM To: gagen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Ancestry and peach Sandy, I am pretty sure my stuff is up there. My county was not formed until 1924 so I wasn't seeing but a few hints a week. Over the last two weeks I have been getting a lot more hits for some reason and most view one page and never come back. I'm already going ballistic. what did you click on or go to to find out your pages were not up there???? JOE Sandy Smith wrote: > It doesn't seem like GA got hit as much as other areas. Some archive stuff > is there, but not a lot. Nothing from my site that I can tell is there. If > you don't read any of the other USGENWEB lists, there is a lot going on all > across the internet, not just us. Some people have taken down their sites, > put disclaimers, etc. For now, I will wait and see what happens. Or until > something from my site shows up and I go ballistic LOL At least they have > backed off of it being part of a subscription, but you still have to > register, so they get your info anyway. > > One thing I found out. There is no filter on the search at all. Search for > all the porno you want, it shows up. > > Sandy > > -----Original Message----- > From: gagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Joe > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:07 PM > To: ed; gagen > Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Ancestry and peach > > Ed, > > I really read with interest the information you provided about > Ancestry.com. I doubt seriously that putting that > note from Sylvia will do too much good. From what I was reading on that > link you provided you can get a > snapshot of the page without even going to the website!!! While they > may have decided to make it free now > that means they still do not have to go to my site and see all the work > and information that has gone into it. > Plus the website in Peach will soon have the footer on every page that > says it is copyrighted and they have > no legal reason to justify using copyrighted material. I am not talking > about the information on my site, I am > talking about all the design work and effort to get that menu fully > implemented. That's what really concerns > me and if they view a portion of the page they may not even see the > copyright notice or even the menu, > because I am using incHeader.htm and incFooter.htm while they can pull > up a page without either of those > items showing (I think??) I may investigate Ancestry to see what shows > up for Peach in their new database. > > > Joe > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message