This list is not the place for complaints. Since I am the SP manager you can forward those complaints to me. Margie ----- Original Message ----- From: <MFLP@aol.com> To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:30 AM Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Send your concerns to Margie, Brenda or Tim > My users who go to the Military page want to know why the black sticker is > there. It reads > " If you are not outraged, you are not paying attention" > Some take it as anti - Bush > Some take it as anti - WAR > Then if they click on it and see the BOARD-L mailing List, they write to me. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/records/military.htm > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb's motto is - Volunteers dedicated to free, online information. > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.461 / Virus Database: 260 - Release Date: 3/10/2003

My users who go to the Military page want to know why the black sticker is there. It reads " If you are not outraged, you are not paying attention" Some take it as anti - Bush Some take it as anti - WAR Then if they click on it and see the BOARD-L mailing List, they write to me. http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/records/military.htm

On 3/10 - Joyce Dixon, CC for Evans County tendered her resignation from GAGenWeb. We wish her well in her future endeavors. Tim

At 02:51 PM 3/9/03 -0600, you wrote: >I want to put this to bed right now. > >I pulled information that had submitters names on it . > >I had a complaint from Mr. John Adams that the material he had submitted was >deleted from the County site. He specifically said to me that he was upset >because Carol Johnson had deleted the information he had sent to be placed >on the Talbot page. > >If you will look at the archives the cemeteries are there. > >I did not and would not violate anyone's copyrights. > >When the are placed on the site if anyone wants to request that their work >be returned to them can make such a request along with their copyright >documentation and the material will be removed. > >Submissions to the county pages do not become the property of the CC it is >for the use of the GaGenWeb county project. > >This is just one of 13 counties that went poof and the donated materials >disappeared with them. Our guidelines state : > >8. Ownership of GAGenWeb County Sites, Related Data, and Project Integrity. >Ownership of GAGenWeb county and special project site designs belong solely >to the coordinator who created them, and may be transferred, permanently, to >a successor. > >Ownership of transcribed genealogical data, including queries, belongs >solely to the transcriber or author, who donates the data or query to the >county GAGenWeb site, which is only received by the county coordinator, on >behalf of the county site. The County Coordinator shall not have any >ownership rights in said data or queries and shall not remove them from the >site upon resignation or removal. > >In the event of a coordinator changeover, all donated county data will >continue to be stored on the new site unless the transcriber asks for its >removal by email to the CC or RC/SC. > >GAGenWeb reserves the right to use whatever technical means necessary to >retrieve data deleted by, but not owned by a former county coordinator. > >In the interest of maintaining GAGenWeb's Project Integrity: > a)A GAGenWeb site may not be utilized as part of any other online >genealogical project, other than USGenWeb, and > b)Any current or future GAGenWeb county site operated by a genealogical >or historical society must agree to place real genealogy data on the sites, >without fee(s). > > >If anyone has any additional questions on this matter direct your concerns >to me, Brenda Pierce or Tim Stowell. Actually, if you have concerns regarding this - or a like matter contact your Regional Coordinator, whomever, he or she might be and/or me. Tim

FYI: RootsWeb will be performing scheduled maintenance Wednesday 12, March 2003 between 1 - 4 am MST on the following servers: freepages, www, news, archivers, cgi, and listsearches. Actual off-line time for a server should be about 30 minutes. Betsy

In a message dated 3/9/03 12:10:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, margie@majorinternet.net writes: > My last post was not intended for this list. > > My wuestion about the archives was a personal query and not intended to be > posted to the list. > > Margie Then I will take back my reply. Donna Parrish

In a message dated 3/9/03 11:46:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, margie@majorinternet.net writes: > Have you ever had material taken by the archives without your permission? I > have had material copied from my pages and placed at the archives and had to > have others tell me it was there. One item, which was copied and sent with someone else's name on it. I have also had my posts to a mail list copied in its entirety to another mail list with a link but not a name. When I tried to post to update it, I was blocked by the mail list owner. Some of these things may be "legally" correct. Morally? Donna Parrish

In an effort to prevent any more conflict in GAGenWeb at the moment, Seana, you might want to check with Carol and Leah before you place any files on the county site. I do not know how long you have been with GAGenWeb, but there was a lot of confilct about files from that county at one point and I trust that you do not want to be caught in the middle of any renewal of such a conflict now - and GAGenWeb certainly does not need any more "issues" at the moment, IMHO - Carol At 08:22 PM 3/8/2003, AnaesRetluoc@aol.com wrote: >I would like to commend Margie Daniels on the exemplary job she did >retrieving 122 lost files for Talbot County. Over the next few weeks, I'll >be adding them to the Talbot County GenWeb pages. > >Thank you Margie! > >Seana Coulter >Talbot CC > > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >Do you have a suggestion to include in our taglines? If so, please write >GAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com Carol C-H <cch@netdoor.com> http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/

Let me clarify due to a private email. I was offering a source to contact submitters to resubmit and failing that to link "as is". Donna Parrish

http://www.archive.org I went and pulled the old information from Talbot after speaking to John Adams. He was not happy that the material was deleted by Carol Johnson. He knows Carol personally. I retrieved the material that had been submitted by others and the records that had no submitters on them. When I looked most of it is in the archives. I guess Keith or someone pulled the info and placed it at the archives since that is what an old page said at the archives. I pulled them and sent them to be included on the page and not on the archives. I did not check all the files to see what was in the archives and what was not since the material was submitted by others Carol cannot claim copyrights. I did check and find that all the cemeteries are on the archives but I think they need to be on the county page. Have you ever had material taken by the archives without your permission? I have had material copied from my pages and placed at the archives and had to have others tell me it was there. Hugs, Margie ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Holback" <john2936@comcast.net> To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 6:15 AM Subject: [GAGEN] URL to search for old websites??? > Great work Margie. Can you tell me again what the url is to check for old > files? Seems like a great idea to go back and try to retrieve those old > ones. Gloria > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <AnaesRetluoc@aol.com> > To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 9:22 PM > Subject: [GAGEN] Talbot County GenWeb Pages > > > > I would like to commend Margie Daniels on the exemplary job she did > > retrieving 122 lost files for Talbot County. Over the next few weeks, I'll > > be adding them to the Talbot County GenWeb pages. > > > > Thank you Margie! > > > > Seana Coulter > > Talbot CC > > > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > > Do you have a suggestion to include in our taglines? If so, please write > > GAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Did your county's courthouse ever meet with a disaster?? > Check out GAGenWeb's List and Research Tips at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/cchelp/courthouses.htm > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 2/25/2003

Great work Margie. Can you tell me again what the url is to check for old files? Seems like a great idea to go back and try to retrieve those old ones. Gloria ----- Original Message ----- From: <AnaesRetluoc@aol.com> To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 9:22 PM Subject: [GAGEN] Talbot County GenWeb Pages > I would like to commend Margie Daniels on the exemplary job she did > retrieving 122 lost files for Talbot County. Over the next few weeks, I'll > be adding them to the Talbot County GenWeb pages. > > Thank you Margie! > > Seana Coulter > Talbot CC > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Do you have a suggestion to include in our taglines? If so, please write > GAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com >

I decided to make use of the internet archives to add a Memories section to the Forsyth County Genweb page see http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaforsyt/gagen/ Donna Parrish

In a message dated 3/8/03 9:23:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, AnaesRetluoc@aol.com writes: > retrieving 122 lost files for Talbot County. There are many copyrighted by Carol Johnson and Lea L. Dowd shown here also http://web.archive.org/web/19991003020430/www.wso.net/ga/ Donna Parrish

I would like to commend Margie Daniels on the exemplary job she did retrieving 122 lost files for Talbot County.  Over the next few weeks, I'll be adding them to the Talbot County GenWeb pages. Thank you Margie! Seana Coulter Talbot CC

One problem that can often occur is that if someone is already playing music and end up at a website that automatically plays music is that the computer can freeze up. If one is lucky all they'll hear is the 2 songs overtop of each other. For this reason - not presuming what my visitors are already doing on/wit their computer when they visit my sites - I'm against music/vidoe/programs on pages that play automatically and could interfere with already in progress actions. Each person of course though is entitled to their own views and practices :) Derek Nichols Echols County

or being the cynic that I am - <A HREF="http://www.themarlinaires.com/soundpage.html">The Devil Went Down To Georgia</A> by Blake Blackwing - or - The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia by Bobby Russell MK Harrison <A HREF="http://mkharrison.com">mkharrison.com</A> <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~gabarrow/">Barrow County, GA</A> <A HREF="http://www.ancestry.com/landing/homelandsweeps2/landing2.html?SourceCode=3913&iid=3913%3A+Sweepstakes+1">Ancestry.com</A> I don't know what kind of weapons will be used in the third world war, assuming there will be a third world war. But I can tell you what the fourth world war will be fought with - stone clubs. -Albert Einstein

For genealogy - how about "I Am My Own Grandpa" http://www.mamarocks.com/i_am_my_own_grandpa.htm Donna

In a message dated 3/7/03 2:01:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, eppy@ticnet.com writes: > Thanks for the netmechanic!!! You are most welcome! It is a great FREE tool!!!!! MK Harrison <A HREF="http://mkharrison.com">mkharrison.com</A> <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~gabarrow/">Barrow County, GA</A> <A HREF="http://www.ancestry.com/landing/homelandsweeps2/landing2.html?SourceCode=3913&iid=3913%3A+Sweepstakes+1">Ancestry.com</A> I don't know what kind of weapons will be used in the third world war, assuming there will be a third world war. But I can tell you what the fourth world war will be fought with - stone clubs. -Albert Einstein

In a message dated 3/7/03 2:12:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, nana321@txucom.net writes: > So are you saying that it might not only be html, music, etc. > but it could be the interent or our browsers that cause the freezes? > Is there anyway to tell specifically what's causing a problem? Well, the page I sent to test your site's pages - will be a great start. MK Harrison <A HREF="http://mkharrison.com">mkharrison.com</A> <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~gabarrow/">Barrow County, GA</A> <A HREF="http://www.ancestry.com/landing/homelandsweeps2/landing2.html?SourceCode=3913&iid=3913%3A+Sweepstakes+1">Ancestry.com</A> I don't know what kind of weapons will be used in the third world war, assuming there will be a third world war. But I can tell you what the fourth world war will be fought with - stone clubs. -Albert Einstein

Claire - I agree with you on most counts. Especially about Jay Leno's mother-in-law - although I am sure she is a lovely woman. [lol Can you imagine her doing a Internet search of +"jay leno" +mother-in-law and coming up with this reference!?] If people really pay attention to the content and music on my personal site - they will see a connection to the music I have chosen for specific pages. (<A HREF="http://mkharrison.com"> First page</A> (remembrance 9/11) - Bring Him Home (Daniel Rodrigues ...singing NYC policeman; <A HREF="http://mkharrison.com/Home.htm">main page</A> - Sentimental Journey; <A HREF="http://mkharrison.com/Html/OldSmyrnaCemetery.htm">Cemetery</A> - I Remember You; <A HREF="http://mkharrison.com/Html/BethlehemGAUMC.htm"> Bethlehem UMC</A> - Libera Nos; etc) About copyrights, etc. I have contacted most of the artists - or record labels - and told them I am using their music. They encouraged me to do so - I had already put links to them on my pages so if people want to purchase the music they can. It has been my experience that if you do that - they are more than happy to have you showcase their music. I really can't think of "appropriate" music for genealogy sites. Autumn Leaves? or Heitor Villa-Lobs' "The Baby's Family, No.2" Who knows - I guess some families would warrant titles like: "<A HREF="http://www.sing365.com/music/Lyric.nsf/songUnid/66659048EC4BE9A548256B030028FF6A">Family</A>" by Pink I need to find something to do today - I can see I have too much time on my hands right now! :) MK Harrison <A HREF="http://mkharrison.com">mkharrison.com</A> <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~gabarrow/">Barrow County, GA</A> <A HREF="http://www.ancestry.com/landing/homelandsweeps2/landing2.html?SourceCode=3913&iid=3913%3A+Sweepstakes+1">Ancestry.com</A> I don't know what kind of weapons will be used in the third world war, assuming there will be a third world war. But I can tell you what the fourth world war will be fought with - stone clubs. -Albert Einstein