Hello everyone, Quite a while back I mentioned the Vanishing Georgia database at the GA Secretary of State Archives site. If you have linked to it, you need to change your link -- they've moved it to: http://www.sos.state.ga.us/archives/web/vg/vgsearch.asp. Some counties have more picture than others. Enjoy, Jacki Colquitt County GenWeb Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/ Administrator, RootsWeb Message Board for Colquitt County GA

It's down at the bottom of that Crawford page that was just referenced! Help! I can't figure this out! <a title="Give Tim a fair hearing, where is the evidence?" href="../tstowell@chattanooga.net">Tim Stowell</a><a href="mailto:tstowell@mccallie.org">

This does not look like linking to me. It seems to be copied and pasted to a webpage. Am I confused? L. Barton -----Original Message----- From: Debra Crosby [mailto:poohbos@poohbos.com] Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 4:10 PM To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Unanswered Complaint / list rules I for one am totally confused about which list Georgia CC's are to use for communication about Ga and problems CC's may be having??? Once again we are threatened with shut up or be moderated. So who's file is this? http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacrawfo/Census/1830census.htm Debra Crosby ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Stowell To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 6:15 AM Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Unanswered Complaint / list rules At 10:54 AM 3/15/03 -0500, you wrote: >I wanted all the CC's to know what is going on. I sent this email to Tim, >Brenda, Margie, and Isaiah on Wed, 3/12/03 at 7:11 PM and have had no >response at all from any of them and the files are still being used by >Margie Daniels. You can view the files at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacrawfo/Census/censuslinkframe.htm Yep, we have lives outside GAGenWeb and USGenWeb. >I sent this request as a contributor, not a CC. Makes me wonder how many >contributors are being treated the same way, probably a lot of them. Wondering and conjecture are like heresay - they mean little in the real world. >"I wish to request that a specific CC (Margie Daniels, Crawford County) on >the GaGenWeb do not link to files which I have posted to the GaArchives. >These files were posted where I want them to be posted as part of the >USGENWEB ARCHIVES Project and I do not give this CC permission to link >directly to those files as if hers. I am requesting that she remove any of >the files that she has taken from there off of her server and off her >Crawford County pages. This is not a battle between the GaGenWeb and the >GaArchives, it is a personal choice of mine and one which I choose to >exercise as the contributor and owner of those files. I understand that the >CC can link to the archives table of contents as is her choice but I want >the files to clearly be noted as GaArchives files and therefore do not give >her permission to link directly to each file. The fact of the matter is - with the Internet persons are free to link to any site they wish to, with or without the linkee's permission or knowledge. The frames you mention do not cover the fact of where the files are located, who contributed them, nor does the Crawford County site claim ownership of them. We had another person elsewhere falsely claiming someone was stealing their files when in fact it was a pure link - something the person making the accusations was incapable of understanding no matter how many times they were told that it was just a link - and that when one clicks on a link one obviously sees the material that the link points to. I have seen frames that total encapsule the data so that there was no way to tell where the files were or who created them - but this is not the case in this particular situation. It has been my understanding that files are in the Archives not to be hoarded but to be shared - linked to. Just because you or I may not like someone - is no reason to say you can't link to my data unless one truly is a Scrooge - and then one would have to wonder why would they make data visible if they didn't want to share it in the first place. >I asked Virginia what could be done about this and she followed on my >request. This list is for the discussion of items of interest to assist fellow CCs in improving their sites or for resources to assist visitors. This list is not the complaint list nor is it the political list. You may take such to GALINA. For those who persist, you will be moderated for 1 week on the first offense, 2 weeks on the second offense. Since some folks may respond to this list prior to seeing this note - this policy will go into effect 12 hours after posting. Tim ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== Genealogy research usually begins with our great-grandparents to preserve the privacy of 'living persons'. If you encounter a person searching their birth parents, the need to go to the area on the web that deals with just this type of research. Please refer them to: http://www.adoption.org ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== Do you have a suggestion to include in our taglines? If so, please write GAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com

> The fact of the matter is - with the Internet persons are free to link to any > site they wish to, with or without the linkee's permission or knowledge. Then are you saying we can freely link to this page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gamacon/welcome.htm even though at the very bottom it says we can NOT? > This list is not the complaint list nor is it the political list. Then does this mean that all the RCs, the SC, & ASC will now start answering our complaints, and other emails? Bettie <>< -- If Fed Ex and UPS were to merge, would they call it Fed UP? -- All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002, http://www.symantec.com/

Actually here are a few helpful tidbits -- since we have neighboring counties perhaps you want to review what I was working on the past little bit this pm for the Fulton site, and if there are any common names and I do believe the Bagwell one certainly is, please feel free to pull that information and include it on your GaGenWeb pages. Same for anyone else that these names apply to. (Actually I believe this first article could go on the Putnam site as it speaks of Brer), but this is also a really good example of what we have discussed here previously that newspaper articles are great information pieces for genealogy, although this one is not as old as many I am transcribing, it certainly has its merit for laughter. I have many more that I have already done, and many more to go, if anyone is interested I'll be happy to share them as well. Cheers, Monday August 28, 1944 Brewer, Ernest � �The business of farming even on a modest scale is no bed of roses. Exhibit �A� for this contention and chief bidder for a milder mode of life was Ernest Brewer, Mayor Hartsfield�s southpaw executive secretary. Brewer was bandaged and wounded. Several months ago, Brewer rescued a dog from a briar patch on a lot adjacent to his home, 1404 Stewart Avenue S. W. He was struck by the lush growth, and decided to acquire it. Last Thursday he decided to clean it off, without the benefit of other labor. He sweated and toiled, but the persistent briars held. Instead of having a rose bed to work in, he had a briar patch, and the recalcitrant briars fought back. Brewer is nursing his wounds which became so painful that he had to seek medical aid. It�s cheaper to pay wartime costs of labor than to turn a tenderfoot loose in a briar patch�, Brewer opined. �I�m not much of a B�rer Rabbit.� Uncle Remus did not mean me, and I don�t want to be thrown into any new briar patches. Why I�m the most �stuck-up� man in town now, and I�m through with farming. Monday August 28, 1944 BURNETTE, Harold Jackson (BUD) age 12 died August 27, 1944. He is survived by his father and mother , Mr. And Mrs. Virlyn Burnette, three sisters, Helen Carolyn and Alma Joe Burnette, all of Stone Mountain, Ga. Funeral plans will be announced later. John Hayes Funeral Home, Stone Mountain, Georgia. Jones, Mr. William Lorenzo � died suddenly Sunday morning, August 27, 1944. He is survived by his widow, three daughters, Mrs. J. E. Mullins, Mrs. Travis Morris, Mrs. J. C. Keen, Jr. two sons J. L. Jones, J. D. Jones, one brother, Joe Jones, one sister, Mrs. J. T. McElroy, Funeral arrangements will be announced later. A. S. Turner & Sons. Day, Mr. J. W. � of Alpharetta, Ga., died August 27, 1944. He is survived by Mr. R. E. Day, Mr. O. W. Day, Mr. Foster Day, Mr. Walter Day, and Marvis Day, Funeral services will be held today, Monday August 28, 1944, at the Alpharetta Baptist Church, at 2 p.m. Rev. R. M. Donehoo and Rev. Bartow Phillips will officiate. Interment Rest Haven cemetery. Louie E. Jones Funeral Home, Alpharetta, Georgia. Former Resident Dies in Georgia From: The Apache weekly News � Thursday April 14, 1966 Services for Mrs. Addie Massey Bagwell, 68, former resident, were held at 2:00 p.m. Monday, April 11, in Alpharetta, Georgia. She died April 8th from a heart attack. She was born on October 11, 1897 in Georgia, came to Oklahoma in 1898, then to north of Broxton in 1903. She married Forest BAGWELL in January 1929. Survivors include her husband of Alpharetta; one son, Carlos Lee BAGWELL of Alpharetta, two grandchildren; 3 brothers, Elliott and Luther Massey of Apache and Paul Massey of Ardmore; 3 sisters, Mrs. Allie Howard and Mrs. Maude Green both of Apache and Mrs. Metie Dougherty of Long Mont, Colorado and several nieces and nephews. Those from Apache attending the funeral were Elliott Massey, Mrs. Maude Green and Mrs. Zelma Alexander, also Billy Alexander from Oklahoma City and Mr. And Mrs. Paul Massey from Ardmore. C. B. Hobgood, Ex-Solon, dies at Alpharetta Alpharetta, GA � March 16 � C. B. Hagood 66, former prominent local merchant and representative in the Georgia legislature from Milton County served several terms several years ago, died at his home here today of a heart attack. He had been in ill health about one year. He was a merchant here for more than 30 years, retiring about a year ago on account of his health. He was a deacon in the Baptist Church and a member of the local lodge of the Masons. He is survived by his wife, four daughters, Mrs. Grady Wood, Mrs. Atward Powell and Mrs. Roy Day, all of Alpharetta. Mrs. Lewis Johnson of Atlanta; six sons, J. B. of Rockmart; J. M. of Atlanta; Mark of Birmingham; and Charles Wilson and Hugh Hagood of Alpharetta. Funeral services will be held tomorrow afternoon at 2:30 o�clock at the Alpharetta Baptist Church. Rev. Donehoo, pastor, will officiate and interment will be in the local cemetery. Mrs. Atwood Powell � Buried at Alpharetta - Alpharetta, GA May 21, Funeral services for Mrs. Octavia Isabell Powell, 32, wife of Atwood H. Powell of Alpharetta, who died Tuesday were held Thursday afternoon from the Alpharetta Baptist Church. The Rev. R. M. Donehoo and the Rev. J. A. Langford officiated. Burial was at Rest Haven Cemetery. Surviving are a small daughter � Patsy; three sisters, Mrs. Grady Wood and Mrs. R. E. Day, of Alpharetta; Mrs. M. W. Miers of Syracus; and six brothers, Buten Hagood, of Rockmart; Mark Hagood, of Birmingham; Massey Hagood of Miami, Hugh Hagood of the U. S. Army; and Charles Hagood of Alpharetta. Mr. Bobby Hagood � Age 44 � 294 N. Main St. Alpharetta passed away May 1, 73. Surviving are wife, Mrs. Martha Anderson Hagood, daughter, Mrs. Elden Sanders, Miss Leshia Hagood; granddaughter � Paige-1 Sanders; mother � Mrs. Kate Hagood, Alpharetta; sister- Mrs. Marshall McFarland, Atlanta; aunts, uncles, nieces and nephews, ; Funeral services will be held Thursday morning at 11:00 a.m. at our chapel, Rev. A. B. Hatfield officiating. Interment Greenland Cemetery Louie E. Jones Funeral Home, Alpharetta. Also if my memory serves me correctly many people put the statement on their page sin re to linking when Family Discovery was selling subscriptions to view our data, in fact that is what the Attorney General had stated to do so that there was no doubt it was a violation for them to "sell" that information. That is not comparative in this instance as no one is selling anything. ----- Original Message ----- From: <MFLP@aol.com> To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 4:49 PM Subject: [GAGEN] Another Timesaving Tip Brenda Pierce has found another way to save space on our main pages. >From the guidelines: "The inclusion of the State Coordinator and Asst. State Coordinator is optional." So we can remove Tim from our main pages. Example: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gafulton/ Guidelines are located at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/guidelines.htm ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== Did your county's courthouse ever meet with a disaster?? Check out GAGenWeb's List and Research Tips at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/cchelp/courthouses.htm

At 10:54 AM 3/15/03 -0500, you wrote: >I wanted all the CC's to know what is going on. I sent this email to Tim, >Brenda, Margie, and Isaiah on Wed, 3/12/03 at 7:11 PM and have had no >response at all from any of them and the files are still being used by >Margie Daniels. You can view the files at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacrawfo/Census/censuslinkframe.htm Yep, we have lives outside GAGenWeb and USGenWeb. >I sent this request as a contributor, not a CC. Makes me wonder how many >contributors are being treated the same way, probably a lot of them. Wondering and conjecture are like heresay - they mean little in the real world. >"I wish to request that a specific CC (Margie Daniels, Crawford County) on >the GaGenWeb do not link to files which I have posted to the GaArchives. >These files were posted where I want them to be posted as part of the >USGENWEB ARCHIVES Project and I do not give this CC permission to link >directly to those files as if hers. I am requesting that she remove any of >the files that she has taken from there off of her server and off her >Crawford County pages. This is not a battle between the GaGenWeb and the >GaArchives, it is a personal choice of mine and one which I choose to >exercise as the contributor and owner of those files. I understand that the >CC can link to the archives table of contents as is her choice but I want >the files to clearly be noted as GaArchives files and therefore do not give >her permission to link directly to each file. The fact of the matter is - with the Internet persons are free to link to any site they wish to, with or without the linkee's permission or knowledge. The frames you mention do not cover the fact of where the files are located, who contributed them, nor does the Crawford County site claim ownership of them. We had another person elsewhere falsely claiming someone was stealing their files when in fact it was a pure link - something the person making the accusations was incapable of understanding no matter how many times they were told that it was just a link - and that when one clicks on a link one obviously sees the material that the link points to. I have seen frames that total encapsule the data so that there was no way to tell where the files were or who created them - but this is not the case in this particular situation. It has been my understanding that files are in the Archives not to be hoarded but to be shared - linked to. Just because you or I may not like someone - is no reason to say you can't link to my data unless one truly is a Scrooge - and then one would have to wonder why would they make data visible if they didn't want to share it in the first place. >I asked Virginia what could be done about this and she followed on my >request. This list is for the discussion of items of interest to assist fellow CCs in improving their sites or for resources to assist visitors. This list is not the complaint list nor is it the political list. You may take such to GALINA. For those who persist, you will be moderated for 1 week on the first offense, 2 weeks on the second offense. Since some folks may respond to this list prior to seeing this note - this policy will go into effect 12 hours after posting. Tim

I wanted all the CC's to know what is going on. I sent this email to Tim, Brenda, Margie, and Isaiah on Wed, 3/12/03 at 7:11 PM and have had no response at all from any of them and the files are still being used by Margie Daniels. You can view the files at http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacrawfo/Census/censuslinkframe.htm I sent this request as a contributor, not a CC. Makes me wonder how many contributors are being treated the same way, probably a lot of them. We ALL need to sign the petition to get some much needed changes within GaGenWeb. GaGenWeb is desperate for some new leadership. We ALL need to fight to make GaGen a better place for CC's AND contributors. "I wish to request that a specific CC (Margie Daniels, Crawford County) on the GaGenWeb do not link to files which I have posted to the GaArchives. These files were posted where I want them to be posted as part of the USGENWEB ARCHIVES Project and I do not give this CC permission to link directly to those files as if hers. I am requesting that she remove any of the files that she has taken from there off of her server and off her Crawford County pages. This is not a battle between the GaGenWeb and the GaArchives, it is a personal choice of mine and one which I choose to exercise as the contributor and owner of those files. I understand that the CC can link to the archives table of contents as is her choice but I want the files to clearly be noted as GaArchives files and therefore do not give her permission to link directly to each file. I asked Virginia what could be done about this and she followed on my request. Kim Gordon" Kim Gordon Contributor Clayton & Habersham CC _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

The petition has been withdrawn, according to the NC. Carol At 05:57 AM 3/15/2003, MFLP@aol.com wrote: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/USGENWEB-DISCUSS/2003-03/1047700100 > >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/USGENWEB-DISCUSS/2003-03/1047696271 > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >Genealogy research usually begins with our great-grandparents to preserve > the privacy of 'living persons'. If you encounter a person searching >their birth parents, the need to go to the area on the web that deals >with just this type of research. Please refer them to: >http://www.adoption.org Carol C-H <cch@netdoor.com> http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/

http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/USGENWEB-DISCUSS/2003-03/1047700100 http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/USGENWEB-DISCUSS/2003-03/1047696271

Please disregard this message, my mouse got antsy and it went in the wrong direction! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jen's Gen" <jensgen@earthlink.net> To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Music on County Pages > I'm cleaning out tonight... > I will take "Georgia on my Mind".... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bosque Lover" <nana321@txucom.net> > To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 1:37 PM > Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Music on County Pages > > > > Georgia on my mind > > (You gotta love that one <BG>) > > Bettie <>< > > > > > I really can't think of "appropriate" music for genealogy sites. Autumn > > > Leaves? or Heitor Villa-Lobs' "The Baby's Family, No.2" Who knows - I > > > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > > Have you added something signifigant to your website? Advertise it on > this > > list! > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Got a problem? Contact your RC or ASC at GAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com >

I'm cleaning out tonight... I will take "Georgia on my Mind".... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bosque Lover" <nana321@txucom.net> To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Music on County Pages > Georgia on my mind > (You gotta love that one <BG>) > Bettie <>< > > > I really can't think of "appropriate" music for genealogy sites. Autumn > > Leaves? or Heitor Villa-Lobs' "The Baby's Family, No.2" Who knows - I > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Have you added something signifigant to your website? Advertise it on this > list! >

Ancestry Magazine 7/1/1997 July/August 1997 Vol. 15 No. 4 The USGenWeb Project - Jake Gehring With the advent of the World Wide Web, a new element of chaos has entered the world of genealogical research. For all its apparent benefits, the Web is an overwhelmingly large source of data with no inherent organization. No mechanism currently exists to inform researchers exactly where to look for valuable records, or whether those records exist. Even Internet search engines, often referred to as "electronic indexes" to the Web, only catalog a portion of its burgeoning contents. In the last year, however, volunteers participating in the USGenWeb project www.usgenweb.com have not only added significantly to the amount of valuable genealogical material available online, they have also lent a degree of order to an otherwise jumbled and often confusing system. To the Rescue The USGenWeb project is a grass-roots genealogical effort which allows any interested individual in the United States to sponsor a Web page devoted to his or her favorite county. Each county page may contain useful tips, lists of online databases particular to the area, research interest registrations, surname queries, descriptions of local libraries and their genealogical holdings, historical background information, and more. These pages are grouped together at the state and national level to help genealogists and historians coordinate their efforts and keep up to date on records, both on- and offline, which may assist them in their research. The project traces its beginnings to a small group of genealogists working to create home pages for various counties in Kentucky. The idea was to help people find information for any given county quickly and easily, as well as to centrally archive and index any databases created at the county level. For those who knew their ancestor's county of origin, these pages would then become a helpful starting point. Each page could contain a list of genealogical queries, maps and history of the county, a description of records available in local repositories, even searchable databases. A search of the central archive could assist those who were unsure of an exact residence in the state. Gathering Steam This initial effort was extremely successful. Volunteers were found to create and maintain the various county pages in just a few months. Having completed their efforts in Kentucky, project coordinators soon contacted volunteers to organize similar efforts in other states. As of February 1997, the project, now known as USGenWeb, had identified volunteers for seventy-seven percent of all U.S. counties. But assistance to the cause has not been restricted to individuals. Various genealogical societies and companies are supporting the USGenWeb's efforts. The National Genealogical Society issued a statement to help volunteers and users correctly create and apply material found on county and state pages. GoldBug Software (www.goldbug.com), creator of the AniMap Historical County Atlas, allows volunteers to use up to three AniMap historical maps on USGenWeb sites in exchange for attribution and a link to the AniMap Web page. The Roots Web Genealogical Data Cooperative (www.rootsweb.com) and other companies have offered free Web space to any county home page sponsor. Home Page Specifics The national and state coordinators of the USGenWeb program maintain guidelines and requirements which every county volunteer must follow. Therefore, every USGenWeb home page should have some basic items in common. The project requires that every page accept and display gen-ealogical queries. Each page should provide at least some basic research help, whether that be in the form of a research bibliography, a listing of important addresses, or actual genealogical data extracted from original or compiled sources. Many county home pages also contain hyperlinks to other WWW sites that contain helpful information. Each state page, in addition to providing links to each of its counties, often lists the year the county was formed and the name of the parent county (if any). Most state pages also archive the data-entry projects sponsored by individual counties, as well as providing information and databases which have a statewide scope. These state pages are listed alphabetically and can be accessed from the main USGenWeb home page, or users can point their browsers to http://www.usgenweb.com/xx, where xx is the two-letter abbreviation for the state in question. Momentum Builds The future of the USGenWeb project seems bright. With so many eager volunteers, each responsible for a U.S. county, developing a meaningful and helpful framework of information should be easy. The prospect of creating a national union catalog of genealogical resources, for example, is not quite so daunting when such an effort is completed one county at a time. National coordinators are now sponsoring an ambitious project whereby county volunteers transcribe federal census records. Any resultant data would be searchable at the county, state, and national levels, depending on how closely you could pinpoint your ancestor's location in a given census year. It is reassuring to know that some logical structure exists within the tangled webs of the Internet. Try visiting some USGenWeb county pages the next time you do survey research for a particular ancestor. As these home pages develop and improve, they may be the most convenient places to find listings of available records, historical background, maps, gazetteers, biographical information, methodological assistance, and even transcribed source data. Especially for those who are new to the World Wide Web, the jurisdictional organization that the USGenWeb project promises will make the ever-expanding global village more familiar-and more navigable. Jake Gehring holds a degree in family history and genealogy from Brigham Young University. He frequently lectures on computer-assisted research. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.461 / Virus Database: 260 - Release Date: 3/10/2003

Margie, thanks for posting the article. :) Gloria Margie Daniels <margie@majorinternet.net> wrote:Ancestry Magazine 7/1/1997 July/August 1997 Vol. 15 No. 4 The USGenWeb Project - Jake Gehring With the advent of the World Wide Web, a new element of chaos has entered the world of genealogical research. For all its apparent benefits, the Web is an overwhelmingly large source of data with no inherent organization. No mechanism currently exists to inform researchers exactly where to look for valuable records, or whether those records exist. Even Internet search engines, often referred to as "electronic indexes" to the Web, only catalog a portion of its burgeoning contents. In the last year, however, volunteers participating in the USGenWeb project www.usgenweb.com have not only added significantly to the amount of valuable genealogical material available online, they have also lent a degree of order to an otherwise jumbled and often confusing system. To the Rescue The USGenWeb project is a grass-roots genealogical effort which allows any interested individual in the United States to sponsor a Web page devoted to his or her favorite county. Each county page may contain useful tips, lists of online databases particular to the area, research interest registrations, surname queries, descriptions of local libraries and their genealogical holdings, historical background information, and more. These pages are grouped together at the state and national level to help genealogists and historians coordinate their efforts and keep up to date on records, both on- and offline, which may assist them in their research. The project traces its beginnings to a small group of genealogists working to create home pages for various counties in Kentucky. The idea was to help people find information for any given county quickly and easily, as well as to centrally archive and index any databases created at the county level. For those who knew their ancestor's county of origin, these pages would then become a helpful starting point. Each page could contain a list of genealogical queries, maps and history of the county, a description of records available in local repositories, even searchable databases. A search of the central archive could assist those who were unsure of an exact residence in the state. Gathering Steam This initial effort was extremely successful. Volunteers were found to create and maintain the various county pages in just a few months. Having completed their efforts in Kentucky, project coordinators soon contacted volunteers to organize similar efforts in other states. As of February 1997, the project, now known as USGenWeb, had identified volunteers for seventy-seven percent of all U.S. counties. But assistance to the cause has not been restricted to individuals. Various genealogical societies and companies are supporting the USGenWeb's efforts. The National Genealogical Society issued a statement to help volunteers and users correctly create and apply material found on county and state pages. GoldBug Software (www.goldbug.com), creator of the AniMap Historical County Atlas, allows volunteers to use up to three AniMap historical maps on USGenWeb sites in exchange for attribution and a link to the AniMap Web page. The Roots Web Genealogical Data Cooperative (www.rootsweb.com) and other companies have offered free Web space to any county home page sponsor. Home Page Specifics The national and state coordinators of the USGenWeb program maintain guidelines and requirements which every county volunteer must follow. Therefore, every USGenWeb home page should have some basic items in common. The project requires that every page accept and display gen-ealogical queries. Each page should provide at least some basic research help, whether that be in the form of a research bibliography, a listing of important addresses, or actual genealogical data extracted from original or compiled sources. Many county home pages also contain hyperlinks to other WWW sites that contain helpful information. Each state page, in addition to providing links to each of its counties, often lists the year the county was formed and the name of the parent county (if any). Most state pages also archive the data-entry projects sponsored by individual counties, as well as providing information and databases which have a statewide scope. These state pages are listed alphabetically and can be accessed from the main USGenWeb home page, or users can point their browsers to http://www.usgenweb.com/xx, where xx is the two-letter abbreviation for the state in question. Momentum Builds The future of the USGenWeb project seems bright. With so many eager volunteers, each responsible for a U.S. county, developing a meaningful and helpful framework of information should be easy. The prospect of creating a national union catalog of genealogical resources, for example, is not quite so daunting when such an effort is completed one county at a time. National coordinators are now sponsoring an ambitious project whereby county volunteers transcribe federal census records. Any resultant data would be searchable at the county, state, and national levels, depending on how closely you could pinpoint your ancestor's location in a given census year. It is reassuring to know that some logical structure exists within the tangled webs of the Internet. Try visiting some USGenWeb county pages the next time you do survey research for a particular ancestor. As these home pages develop and improve, they may be the most convenient places to find listings of available records, historical background, maps, gazetteers, biographical information, methodological assistance, and even transcribed source data. Especially for those who are new to the World Wide Web, the jurisdictional organization that the USGenWeb project promises will make the ever-expanding global village more familiar-and more navigable. Jake Gehring holds a degree in family history and genealogy from Brigham Young University. He frequently lectures on computer-assisted research. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.461 / Virus Database: 260 - Release Date: 3/10/2003 ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== Do you have a suggestion to include in our taglines? If so, please write GAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online

> In about 10 days there's going to a an election for SC in one state - as of > last night there are no candidates. I'm a CC in that state - and the state > list there was extremely quiet. But then most CCs there like that. We all > just do our sites, once in a while talk to each other off list and go on > about our business. The same is true in other states as well. > > Tim I agree. I'm a new CC in Georgia, but I CC in 5 other states and have never seen anything like this. For a new CC, it's a little disturbing. Certainly there are issues, but some of the comments on this thread have been rather argumentative instead of helping/friendly--which is the heart of the project... isn't it. Aren't we ALL in the same boat as CCs? Don't we all have to abide by the same rules and have the same goal? In fact, there were one or two messages where emotions clearly got involved and maybe should have been done off-list. I am one of those who'd rather not be involved in the turmoil. One might accuse me of the "ignorance is bliss" syndrome, but if it doesn't affect how my website is managed/what's required to be on it or that my website continues to be part of a project that is free of charge to it's users, then I'm not sure I really need to see it. If someone is offended by another CC/RC/SCs behavior, there is a chain of escalation. AFTER that's been exhausted then it MIGHT be appropriate to appeal to the masses depending upon the behavior. If it's something you feel would jeopardize the future of the project--by all means. Otherwise, this on-list fighting does an awful lot to alienate the people who just want to do a good job within the confines that they're given. Hoping I didn't further offend anyone, Heather (White Co.)

You are right, there are some real problems here and it has turned into something about egos and power which needs to be changed immediately. Kim Gordon >From: TooFem@aol.com >Reply-To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com >To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [GAGEN] Check out RootsWeb: GAGEN-L Archives >Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:57:05 EST > > <A HREF="http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GAGEN/">Click here: >RootsWeb: GAGEN-L Archives</A> > >Out of curiosity, I visited our archives and then other States. (change >the >GA to the 2 letter abbreviation i.e. <A HREF="mailto:GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com"> >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CAGEN/</A>) and am horrified by the >differences! Most states I searched have very few messages and I have yet >to >find a board with complaints, attacks, etc etc etc - except ours. I am >embarrassed by this. > >Why are we having so many problems? Every state organization is filled >with >different personalities, differing points of view, and so on. Why are we >so >unhappy? > >Perhaps some of these states have their list archives in other places than >what I could find. Or could it be they are just doing their job and not >being harassed? > >And now the executive board is showing us how little they care. Five >people >voted on our issue. Five out of eleven eligible voters. When an issue is >put in front of them - one that we have asked help with - they should all >vote. Period. The fact they ignored our request by ignoring the vote is >pathetic. What leaders we have. While I know how I wish they would have >voted - all I really wanted was for them to vote, not to sink into oblivion >because something may be uncomfortable for them. I think they owed it to >us >to vote. > >We seem to have real problems here. While I don't know what the solution >is, >I hope the people who can do something - will. It is time for the powers >who >be to step up and put GAGen first. This isn't about egos or power - it is >about helping researchers find free material on our sites. Our group >isn't >working well as it is now. Something has to change. > >MK Harrison ><A HREF="http://mkharrison.com">mkharrison.com</A> ><A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~gabarrow/">Barrow County, GA</A> ><A >HREF="http://www.ancestry.com/landing/homelandsweeps2/landing2.html?SourceCode=3913&iid=3913%3A+Sweepstakes+1">Ancestry.com</A> >I don't know what kind of weapons will be used in the third world war, >assuming there will be a third world war. But I can tell you what the >fourth >world war will be fought with - stone clubs. -Albert Einstein > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >Did your county's courthouse ever meet with a disaster?? >Check out GAGenWeb's List and Research Tips at: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/cchelp/courthouses.htm _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

In a message dated 3/13/03 12:05:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, tstowell@chattanooga.net writes: > The new RC for the Northwest Region, and a CC in that region already, is > the Walker County CC, Bill Clody. Congratulations Bill. When the new RC for Gordon County is ready for the files, I will send the links for the files that need to be moved. I have added a link from my page. Donna Parrish

In a message dated 3/12/03 11:02:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, john2936@comcast.net writes: > Sorry Donna, you actually said: > > "It dies from lack of participation and/or interest just like GeorgiaGenweb > is doing." > > Isn't that sort of the same thing as saying the GAGenWeb is not a good > place any longer or soon won't be? A lot of us have put our hearts and > souls into helping others through the years and we will continue to do Gloria, I have been helping people for free on Forsyth County since 1970. If GaGenweb weren't here or if I were not a part of it, I would still help people. There were a lot of good people in GaGenweb when I came and there are still a lot of good people. There would be more good people still here if a few mean spirited persons would have just left them alone and let them do their thing. RC's should lead, not push from the rear. Rules are usually necessary, but need to be applied equally. There are enough records out there to share that all of us couldn't get them online in our lifetime. If a good record is there, link to it, give the submitter credit and move on. It doesn't have to be grabbed and placed a certain place. One of my taglines on my mail list reads "It doesn't matter how many visitors come to your page, It matters how many are helped by it." Donna Parrish

It fails for lack of a quorum I think. ED GORDON CCHS Clay County GaGenWeb Early County AHGP Miller County GaGenWeb Miller County AHGP Seminole County GaGenWeb Ed and Kim's Connection's From: Carol C-H <cch@netdoor.com> Reply-To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: ALSO - Re: [GAGEN] Send your concerns to Margie, Brenda or Tim Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 17:49:34 -0600 The deadline for the AB vote is near - and very few of the AB members have voted. What happens to your petition if they do not have a quorum? Carol At 04:16 PM 3/12/2003, MFLP@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 3/12/03 4:25:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, >Connie@WVDSL.net >writes: > > How do we get this information to all the CCs of GA > >By this mail list which all CC's are required to be subscribed to. > >If you want to follow the AB on the petition > >"We, the undersigned county coordinators of GAGenweb, hereby petition the >USGenWeb Advisory Board for relief under the Standing Rule for Removal of >an >SC or ASC. " >go to the BOARD=L Archives > >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BOARD/ > >If you would like to read the petition and the attachments, send a request >to >me. > >Donna Parrish. > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >Genealogy research usually begins with our great-grandparents to preserve > the privacy of 'living persons'. If you encounter a person searching >their birth parents, the need to go to the area on the web that deals >with just this type of research. Please refer them to: >http://www.adoption.org Carol C-H <cch@netdoor.com> http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/ ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== USGenWeb's motto is - Volunteers dedicated to free, online information. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

When Carla sent me her resignation notice she recommended two CCs in her region to replace her as RC. I wrote both of those CCs and offered them the position. One turned it down and the other accepted. The new RC for the Northwest Region, and a CC in that region already, is the Walker County CC, Bill Clody. Tim Stowell tstowell@chattanooga.net Chattanooga, TN

At 09:57 PM 3/12/03 EST, you wrote: > <A HREF="http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GAGEN/">Click here: RootsWeb: GAGEN-L Archives</A> > >Out of curiosity, I visited our archives and then other States. (change the >GA to the 2 letter abbreviation i.e. <A HREF="mailto:GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com"> >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CAGEN/</A>) and am horrified by the >differences! Most states I searched have very few messages and I have yet to >find a board with complaints, attacks, etc etc etc - except ours. I am >embarrassed by this. Not all states have a mailing list - for states like Rhode Island with 5 counties or Delaware with 3, it's not needed. Then of course not all states are hosted by Rootsweb so where their mailing list is, if it exists, is anyone's guess. Tim