In a message dated 3/28/03 6:17:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, poohbos@poohbos.com writes: > Have any of you had any experience with these people? I've had several > requests to add links > to them on my Genweb pages. It appears to be Blue Roses Publishing company Keith's answer - Dec 1 2002 http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/GAGEN/2002-12/1038796283

Am I missing something the graphics are all missing when I visit that address Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <MFLP@aol.com> To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:19 AM Subject: [GAGEN] Wyndell Taylor won with Cherokee County iin April 1997 > Take a look at the award page > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/pg_month.htm > > For previos winners try > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/pg_past.htm > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Did your county's courthouse ever meet with a disaster?? > Check out GAGenWeb's List and Research Tips at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/cchelp/courthouses.htm >

Take a look at the award page http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/pg_month.htm For previos winners try http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/pg_past.htm

the last time we discussed this starts with this thread http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/GAGEN/2000-11/0974358013 November 16, 2000. Donna

Brenda, I realize that your "Site Compliance & Review" message was meant for the RC list, but since it did come to all, I hope you don't mind me throwing in my two cents. <g> I didn't take your message as raining on the parade. You made some very good points (some I had wondered about myself). It would be a shame for something that was meant to be a fun, postive activity to end up causing hard feelings. It seems that the main point behind the "Surfers" is to acknowledge some of the great work that's being done in GAGenWeb. If having a "County of the Month" proves to be too complicated (in the area of fairness), perhaps there is an alternative? Maybe the surfers could present the GAGEN mail list with a monthly "Spotlight" message, highlighting noteworthy aspects of various counties. For example, one county might have a great collection of historical photos; one county might have every cemetery online & indexed; another county might have a really creative, professional looking layout. That way, it wouldn't be necessary to judge or vote on any particular county as a whole... and nobody would be at a disadvantage, because no matter what our limitations, we all have the ability to do *something* great for our counties. This would be a neat way for CCs to get new ideas for their own counties. Perhaps a portion of the "Help for CCs" page could include links to the spotlighted items, so new CCs would have some great examples to look at. This isn't to say that I'm against having a County of the Month... just offering another suggestion. :) Jeanne

Dawn (and anyone else interested) I uploaded Mortality Schedule Census transcriptions for 133 Georgia Counties in the last several days. They will all be included in the next Census upload report that Ron Eason will send out. Connie -----Original Message----- From: Dawn Watson [mailto:booleygirl@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:23 PM To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GAGEN] Census images/index I will most likely make an index of each year myself, although another researcher is transcribing the 1860 census for the Census Project (I'll do HTML versions of each, as I did with the 1850 census). Speaking of censuses...I was able (finally!) to find microfilm of the mortality schedules for GA and made copies for Rabun County. If anyone is interested, the University of Georgia in Athens does have the complete mortality schedules (1850, 1860, 1870 and 1880) for the states of Georgia, Kentucky and Louisiana and the District of Columbia, and also some mortality schedules for Arizona, Colorado and Tennessee. Dawn _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== Confused about Copyrights??? Review USGenWeb's policy on copyrights at: http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/copyright.html

Comments Below: ----- Original Message ----- From: " Brenda Pierce" <ltlbit@mindspring.com> > Jan/RC list: > > We are Rc and SC challenged at the moment- Richard is out until at least > Sunday night, Virginia is out until?; Tim is out of pocket as well. I am > however assigning this a Action Item Number 03272003-1 (my new thing to keep > up with requests that are presented to us so they do not fall through the > crack), and will put it back on the list with the action number assigned. JAN: I understand that perfectly. I just want to find out if we can do it before we go gung ho!] > > There are a couple of issues so before you go aw that wet blanket, let me > say "getting data on these sites" needs to be accomplished, and this might > generate some of that, & Jan I think you would be terrific at heading this > up .... and fyi I usually see the glass half full, but in this case a > couple of issues with this that I think I have to bring up as Tim is not > around to do so. > 1) This would necessitate a change to the current guidelines which we can > not make changes to until the coo is settled, we have several items that are > on the table as well. JAN: No problem, I do understand.] > > 2) Personally I think if we don't ask for a vote of the cc's and see how > many want this, we will be asking for more trouble, either that or make it > clear that there can be a list of those that do not wish to participate and > they will not be bothered. The last time it caused hard feelings > and the last person I remember winning it was Scott Dingler over in ~gapolk > and at that time he was "out front technology wise", he was the only one at > that time among us that knew how to use frames and he had great content and > a well laid out site, he was then criticized due to his "techno savviness > that he should not have won, that frames were wrong, people couldn't access > it with frames, all kinds of wild statements. JAN: I also agree that a vote should be taken. I believe I did mention that, because if enough CC's aren't interested, it won't work. So no problem there.] > > 3) I fear if this were not to be "managed" it would turn into a picking > party. 7 have been having a picking party as of late and one volunteered. > Also, another main concern, when it was David Morgan's birthday I received > an email asking a bunch of us to go vote for David's site out there. So I > did not think that system was very fair. JAN: I don't want this to be a picking party. I want it to be fun. I realize that some of us, and me in particular are html and graphics challenged. So, I don't want it to be just site design, but rather add into it content and improvement. In the real world, the same site should not always win. So, I would want to look for many things and have a team to make the decision as we do in TX. We let outside forces vote as well, but that *should not* be the deciding factor, as you say a group could write in and that is not fair. Other things need to be considered. I believe in being fair, first and foremost.] > > There are other items to take into consideration - the size of GA versus TX > being one of them, the multiple co owners. > 1_ alot of Counties in Ga had their courthouses burned (one co has burned 5 > x's), therefore it is much harder for those counties to transcribe > information that IS NOT available. JAN: I agree with you there, as I will always have a problem not living in GA. But, I would like to see things onsite that give a researcher where to go, lookups people, the ability to lead researchers to the right area. It's not all content.] > 2_ Some of the newer counties will not have much data because their > entrance date was early 1900's or like Peach the first available census > being 1930. JAN: I think that if we structure this right, we can take all those things into consideration.] > 3_ Bells and Whistles -- some people have to rely on graphics that are > available online for free, not something they create; what about frames are > they going to immediately be disqualified because someone does not like > frames; JAN: I readily understand all that. I have to depend on available graphics I find. I do not believe that a person should be disqualified because someone does not like the way they do their site. It's more the info thats available. You can do a good site by giving people all the available info. Our job also is not to do the genealogy for them, but give them the information to do it for themselves as well.] > > Those are some of the questions I would ask out of fairness to the cc's. > > Again, not trying to be a wet blanket, I just don't have stars in my eyes. JAN: I don't have any stars either. I live in the real world as well. It's not perfect, but the best that we have. Nothing is a panacea, we make what we can of it. Jan > > Brenda > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Cortez" <cristian@netonecom.net> > To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 10:37 PM > Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Site Compliance & Review > > > Sorry it appeared like I disappeared, but hit the feathers early and then > had a DAR meeting tonight, so am just checking email and off again for the > night. > > Sounds like we have quite a few interested here in surfin' Georgia. So what > do we do next? > > I guess I am asking Tim and the RC's, what the procedure would be????? Do > we send something formal to you, asking for permission to start this > project? > > I am willing, to help in the set-up, so *if* we can get started, and we have > a few volunteers here, including, I hope, those graphic makers, once we get > the go ahead - well........... Personally, I am graphic challenged, but, > can help with the other things. <g> > > So I shall wait for a response from our management team and if we get the > okay - let's go for it! We can have fun, maybe win an award and check sites > for compliance all at the same time. > > So what do you say? > > Jan Cortez > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeanne Arguelles" <ejarguelles@msn.com> > > > > If we end up doing the surfing thing, I'd like to volunteer to be a > > "Surfer." Not 'cause I want to pick apart the sites, but because it seems > > like fun to see what others are doing with their pages! Whether or not > > there is a "County of the Month" chosen, it might be fun to "spotlight" > some > > of the great things that CCs have done. > > > > Jeanne Arguelles > > Madison & Oglethorpe > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jan Cortez" <cristian@netonecom.net> > > To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:31 PM > > Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Site Compliance & Review > > > > > > > There would be a surfer for the area that you are in. I'm not sure > which > > > county as we have 254 of them. <g> I surf the NC 1-27 area. You can > find > > > the areas by clicking on the Committe link. > > > > > > Here is the URL to look at what we do and the areas that we surf: > > > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~txgenweb/surfing/ > > > > > > It just might be a fun thing for us to do in GA. > > > > > > Jan > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <MFLP@aol.com> > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/25/03 9:41:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > > > cristian@netonecom.net writes: > > > > > > > > > In TX we have > > > > > what we call Surfer's. These people, and I happen to be one of > them > > > surf > > > > > our area county pages, looking for compliance > > > > > > > > I think that is a great idea. If you get a chance, would you surf by > my > > > new > > > > page for TX and see if I missed any of the rules. > > > > Donna > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > > > > Did your county's courthouse ever meet with a disaster?? > > > > Check out GAGenWeb's List and Research Tips at: > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/cchelp/courthouses.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > > > USGenWeb's motto is - Volunteers dedicated to free, online information. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > > Do you have a suggestion to include in our taglines? If so, please write > > GAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Have you added something signifigant to your website? Advertise it on this > list! > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Confused about Copyrights??? Review USGenWeb's policy on copyrights at: > http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/copyright.html > >

I will most likely make an index of each year myself, although another researcher is transcribing the 1860 census for the Census Project (I'll do HTML versions of each, as I did with the 1850 census). Speaking of censuses...I was able (finally!) to find microfilm of the mortality schedules for GA and made copies for Rabun County. If anyone is interested, the University of Georgia in Athens does have the complete mortality schedules (1850, 1860, 1870 and 1880) for the states of Georgia, Kentucky and Louisiana and the District of Columbia, and also some mortality schedules for Arizona, Colorado and Tennessee. Dawn _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

Sorry that you feel that its an additional checking. It was only meant to be one checking and having a bit of fun while we are at it. Maybe it would relieve our management team to answer emails and address other problems. I for one do not to criticize others, as I am not perfect by a long shot. Just good constructive looking and maybe making some suggestions. Heaven knows, I forget to do things on my sites and most times what I have done wrong, is just something I overlooked. But, I do appreciate your thoughts and I for one do not expect everyone to agree with me. Maybe if we do get something going, your suggestions would go along ways to making it a *fun* thing. I'd really like to see people with other views work with this if it flies. I do agree that we need to be a majority agreeing to do it, or it won't work. And I also agree that the folks putting up all those wonderful things on site, is an awesome reward, but, they deserve some recognition too. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <thammack@datasync.com> > With the way things have been going, the last thing I want is an officially sanctioned ANYBODY more checking my sites. Anyone is welcome to give constructive comments at any time. For the rest, I will replace my keyboard when the delete key wears out. We already have folks to check the sites. As to the awards, I get my (reward) award each time the sites help someone. For those who want a VOLUNTARY competition for an award, have at it. Just don't force me into it. > > Thanks to all the wonderful folks who have been putting up material to help folks, here is my award. THANK YOU!!!

I'm guessing that the Council's mail list is one of the ones that is down as I've sent a note to the group and it hasn't shown up yet!!! So hang a little and we'll get there!!! jimmy Jan Cortez wrote: > Sorry it appeared like I disappeared, but hit the feathers early and then > had a DAR meeting tonight, so am just checking email and off again for the > night. > > Sounds like we have quite a few interested here in surfin' Georgia. So what > do we do next? > > I guess I am asking Tim and the RC's, what the procedure would be????? Do > we send something formal to you, asking for permission to start this > project? > > I am willing, to help in the set-up, so *if* we can get started, and we have > a few volunteers here, including, I hope, those graphic makers, once we get > the go ahead - well........... Personally, I am graphic challenged, but, > can help with the other things. <g> > > So I shall wait for a response from our management team and if we get the > okay - let's go for it! We can have fun, maybe win an award and check sites > for compliance all at the same time. > > So what do you say? > > Jan Cortez > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeanne Arguelles" <ejarguelles@msn.com> > > > If we end up doing the surfing thing, I'd like to volunteer to be a > > "Surfer." Not 'cause I want to pick apart the sites, but because it seems > > like fun to see what others are doing with their pages! Whether or not > > there is a "County of the Month" chosen, it might be fun to "spotlight" > some > > of the great things that CCs have done. > > > > Jeanne Arguelles > > Madison & Oglethorpe > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jan Cortez" <cristian@netonecom.net> > > To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:31 PM > > Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Site Compliance & Review > > > > > > > There would be a surfer for the area that you are in. I'm not sure > which > > > county as we have 254 of them. <g> I surf the NC 1-27 area. You can > find > > > the areas by clicking on the Committe link. > > > > > > Here is the URL to look at what we do and the areas that we surf: > > > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~txgenweb/surfing/ > > > > > > It just might be a fun thing for us to do in GA. > > > > > > Jan > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <MFLP@aol.com> > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/25/03 9:41:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > > > cristian@netonecom.net writes: > > > > > > > > > In TX we have > > > > > what we call Surfer's. These people, and I happen to be one of > them > > > surf > > > > > our area county pages, looking for compliance > > > > > > > > I think that is a great idea. If you get a chance, would you surf by > my > > > new > > > > page for TX and see if I missed any of the rules. > > > > Donna > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > > > > Did your county's courthouse ever meet with a disaster?? > > > > Check out GAGenWeb's List and Research Tips at: > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/cchelp/courthouses.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > > > USGenWeb's motto is - Volunteers dedicated to free, online information. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > > Do you have a suggestion to include in our taglines? If so, please write > > GAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Have you added something signifigant to your website? Advertise it on this > list!

That is great news, Congratulations!!!!!!!! I didn't look at your Rabun site to see, but wondered if you make any kind of indexes for census images. If so have you found a good easy way to do so? For one site where we had a bunch of images, we got the help of the mail list that donated to them to take a couple of pages each, but not all the images are done yet. Again, congratulations, Bettie <>< > Great news! Images of the 1860, 1870 and 1880 Censuses of Rabun Co., GA are > now online...my long-awaited CD came in from S-K Publications. Yippee!!

> the last thing I want is an officially Over in Texas, those that don't wish to be "surfed" are not. Of course they do have to have their sites up to par, but don't have to participate. > As to the awards, I get my (reward) award each time the sites help someone. Isn't that the truth? I think all of us feel the same way no matter what the compliment is, but especially when we're told our web site has helped them in some way. Bettie <><

With the way things have been going, the last thing I want is an officially sanctioned ANYBODY more checking my sites. Anyone is welcome to give constructive comments at any time. For the rest, I will replace my keyboard when the delete key wears out. We already have folks to check the sites. As to the awards, I get my (reward) award each time the sites help someone. For those who want a VOLUNTARY competition for an award, have at it. Just don't force me into it. Thanks to all the wonderful folks who have been putting up material to help folks, here is my award. THANK YOU!!!

> Sounds like we have quite a few interested here in surfin' Georgia. So what > do we do next? I would say that we would need to get state approval. Appoint?/nominate? a leader. I would chat with Dana Thomas in TXGenWeb next. I believe she was the one that helped to get this started in Texas. At any rate, she was the last leader/chair of our group. Then of course we would beed volunteers. That would really help a lot lol!! Maybe someone else has some other ideas???? Bettie <>< -- Never take away anyone's hope. That may be all they have. -- All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002, http://www.symantec.com/

Sounds like a great idea! I think we could all use something positive like this! Jeanne > Sorry it appeared like I disappeared, but hit the feathers early and then > had a DAR meeting tonight, so am just checking email and off again for the > night. > > Sounds like we have quite a few interested here in surfin' Georgia. So what > do we do next? > > I guess I am asking Tim and the RC's, what the procedure would be????? Do > we send something formal to you, asking for permission to start this > project? > > I am willing, to help in the set-up, so *if* we can get started, and we have > a few volunteers here, including, I hope, those graphic makers, once we get > the go ahead - well........... Personally, I am graphic challenged, but, > can help with the other things. <g> > > So I shall wait for a response from our management team and if we get the > okay - let's go for it! We can have fun, maybe win an award and check sites > for compliance all at the same time. > > So what do you say? > > Jan Cortez > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeanne Arguelles" <ejarguelles@msn.com> > > > > If we end up doing the surfing thing, I'd like to volunteer to be a > > "Surfer." Not 'cause I want to pick apart the sites, but because it seems > > like fun to see what others are doing with their pages! Whether or not > > there is a "County of the Month" chosen, it might be fun to "spotlight" > some > > of the great things that CCs have done. > > > > Jeanne Arguelles > > Madison & Oglethorpe > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jan Cortez" <cristian@netonecom.net> > > To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:31 PM > > Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Site Compliance & Review > > > > > > > There would be a surfer for the area that you are in. I'm not sure > which > > > county as we have 254 of them. <g> I surf the NC 1-27 area. You can > find > > > the areas by clicking on the Committe link. > > > > > > Here is the URL to look at what we do and the areas that we surf: > > > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~txgenweb/surfing/ > > > > > > It just might be a fun thing for us to do in GA. > > > > > > Jan > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <MFLP@aol.com> > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/25/03 9:41:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > > > cristian@netonecom.net writes: > > > > > > > > > In TX we have > > > > > what we call Surfer's. These people, and I happen to be one of > them > > > surf > > > > > our area county pages, looking for compliance > > > > > > > > I think that is a great idea. If you get a chance, would you surf by > my > > > new > > > > page for TX and see if I missed any of the rules. > > > > Donna > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > > > > Did your county's courthouse ever meet with a disaster?? > > > > Check out GAGenWeb's List and Research Tips at: > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/cchelp/courthouses.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > > > USGenWeb's motto is - Volunteers dedicated to free, online information. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > > Do you have a suggestion to include in our taglines? If so, please write > > GAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Have you added something signifigant to your website? Advertise it on this > list! > >

In a message dated 3/27/03 12:42:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, jarrard2@bellsouth.net writes: > Does anyone know if there has been a problem with some of > the Rootsweb mail lists? Carolyn, Acording to the Rootsweb helpdesk http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi lists 2 is having problems. Donna Parrish Forsyth County

I posted two notices yesterday to my two county mail lists at Rootsweb. They never came through....I checked with a subscriber to double check, and she had not received them either. Does anyone know if there has been a problem with some of the Rootsweb mail lists? Carolyn Barber Jarrard US GENWEB County Coordinator for Bryan and Effingham counties, Georgia http://www.rootsweb.com/~gabryan/index.html http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaeffing/index.html

First let me apologize to David Morgan, I was not "picking" on David in my earlier message. "There" should have been spelled out where there was, (if one had read my previous email which did not go astray, "there" was broken out more appropriately), but nonetheless the award was popularity .... MY POINT was...... not who or where, or what, but it should be "FAIR" to all, no matter what the situations are. Fair and equitable. The next item that I mistook, and again my apologies to Scott, and not to hurt anyone's feelings, Scott's site was Cherokee where he won county of the month (1997 National Genealogist Society Conference, Valley Forge, PA The GAGenWeb's Cherokee County Georgia Page was named as one of the 8 best counties in the USGenWeb Project & Georgia GenWeb's Spotlight County of the Month for April 1997) It was pointed out to me that he was nominated by me for for the last county of the month contest for Polk and Don McHugh's Morgan site, but one of the persons that reminded me, that he "blasted it down", .... and apparently we did not have a county of the month from that point on?? That is at least 2 other people's versions, so with the three of us telling this I am sure we will get to the facts eventually. <I would laugh, but at this point I can't>. But I guess this actually proves at least one of my points I was trying to make ... that at least one person would not vote for a site with frames. Fair? Equitable? So again, my point to all of this was not to pick on anyone, not to mistell something but to be FAIR and EQUITABLE and have a level playing field for all. I am also sorry that I rained on the parade, I would hope ithis could be something that would help put GA back together again. As it has been pointed out to me nothing can be perfect from the get-go, and should be a work in progress. So my apologies to all, but moreover to David and to Scott. It was not my intention to make either of them feel badly, Brenda

Yes , there is. List 5 has been down, and is fixed, but List2 is down now. You can information form the Helpdesk at Rootsweb. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Jarrard" <jarrard2@bellsouth.net> To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 11:40 AM Subject: [GAGEN] Rootsweb > I posted two notices yesterday to my two county > mail lists at Rootsweb. > They never came through....I checked with a subscriber > to double check, and she had not received them either. > Does anyone know if there has been a problem with some of > the Rootsweb mail lists? > > > Carolyn Barber Jarrard > US GENWEB County Coordinator for > Bryan and Effingham counties, Georgia > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gabryan/index.html > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaeffing/index.html > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Genealogy research usually begins with our great-grandparents to preserve > the privacy of 'living persons'. If you encounter a person searching > their birth parents, the need to go to the area on the web that deals > with just this type of research. Please refer them to: > http://www.adoption.org >

Sorry I hit the wrong list, that was intended for the RC list, but now you know my concerns which I was not going to voice here or on galina but rather to the RCs and to Jan.