Donna are you imposing a self moderation here and asking to be unsubbed? Your clarification would be most helpful. Thanks, Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: <MFLP@aol.com> To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 12:44 AM Subject: [GAGEN] I will be on moderate. I will be on moderate again. If anyone needs me, please email me privately. Donna ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== Regional Coordinators are there to help County Coordinators. Don't hesitate to contact them should you have any, any question. To find info on your region visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/regional.html

In a message dated 4/8/2003 9:26:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gagenie@bellsouth.net writes: << Course..... others here may have other ideas, and I would welcome anyone speaking up and letting us know if there is a problem. >> I don't see any problem with having Richard's wife on the committee. Donna

In a message dated 4/8/2003 7:14:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mannannan@maclyr.com writes: << I will make sure that you are fourth or fifth on the list (I lost count already) of volunteers. BTW - did I state that I volunteer, too? Richard >> Good. Donna

In a message dated 4/8/2003 6:47:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mannannan@maclyr.com writes: << Donna - you may want to adjust the clock on your computer, as your email is being postmarked several hours before it is sent, which makes it difficult to read because it was hidden among emails I had previously read. Richard >> Thanks Richard but it is not the clock on my computer. Apparently AOL has been having mail problems today. It had me locked out of my email for about 1/2 hour. I am sending this one at 1:54 AM GA time. Let me know if it is still off. Donna

I volunteer to be on the committee. ED GORDON CCHS Clay County GaGenWeb Early County AHGP Miller County GaGenWeb Miller County AHGP Seminole County GaGenWeb Ed and Kim's Connection's From: "Margie" <margie@majorinternet.net> Reply-To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [GAGEN] vote Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 18:32:01 -0500 I am sending this for Teri Hopper. She if receiving the list mail but none of her messages is going through. Teri volunteers to be on the committee. Margie Daniels -----Original Message----- From: mannannan [mailto:mannannan@maclyr.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 6:08 PM To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GAGEN] vote Derek, I will make sure that you are fourth or fifth on the list (I lost count already) of volunteers. BTW - did I state that I volunteer, too? Richard On Tue, 08 Apr 2003 17:10:12 -0300, Derek Nichols wrote > >Richard and Wyndell > > > >I will stay and volunteer to be on the guidelines committee. > > I as well publicly offer myself as a volunteer for any > committee/tasks that needs volunteers. > > I believe that I have shown with my stand against attacking former > CCs on GA County Sites that I have the best interests of this > GAGenWeb at heart. > > Derek Nichols > Echols County, GA > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Did your county's courthouse ever meet with a disaster?? > Check out GAGenWeb's List and Research Tips at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/cchelp/courthouses.htm ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== Confused about Copyrights??? Review USGenWeb's policy on copyrights at: http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/copyright.html --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.467 / Virus Database: 266 - Release Date: 4/1/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.467 / Virus Database: 266 - Release Date: 4/1/2003 ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== Genealogy research usually begins with our great-grandparents to preserve the privacy of 'living persons'. If you encounter a person searching their birth parents, the need to go to the area on the web that deals with just this type of research. Please refer them to: http://www.adoption.org _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

I would also be happy to volunteer to be on the guidelines committee. Debra Crosby Baker, Dougherty, Miller Counties ----- Original Message ----- From: Derek Nichols To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [GAGEN] vote >Richard and Wyndell > >I will stay and volunteer to be on the guidelines committee. I as well publicly offer myself as a volunteer for any committee/tasks that needs volunteers. I believe that I have shown with my stand against attacking former CCs on GA County Sites that I have the best interests of this GAGenWeb at heart. Derek Nichols Echols County, GA ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== Did your county's courthouse ever meet with a disaster?? Check out GAGenWeb's List and Research Tips at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/cchelp/courthouses.htm

Don't give me to many hugs! Appreciate them, but, I think that the AB has been torn over this problem as well and we haven't done the best job in handling it either. Personally I would rather it be solved in some way at the state level. I guess I don't have the answer but would like to see the guidelines committee. Maybe a member or two at large on the GA Council, a weekly or monthly chat to discuss problems. It's my personal opinion that the GA CC's know what is best for them and should find a way to work together rather than having to resort to the National Board that is not privvy to everything at the state level. But this again is just my personal opinion for what its worth. Now I'm of to bed. Have to get up early for work and have just come from a board meeting. I be tired! <grin> Talk to y'all tomorrow. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michele Lewis" <frugalmom@earthlink.net> > Thanks Jan for that info. I think I will go over and read some of the > archives. > > Hugs... > > michele > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Cortez" <cristian@netonecom.net> > To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 10:30 PM > Subject: Re: [GAGEN] A question > > > > Hi Michele, > > > > Yes, the USGenWeb is well aware of the problems here in GA. > > > > A petition for removal was submitted by some of the CC's in GA. and it was > > forwarded to the AB. > > > > You might want to subscribe to Board-L@rootsweb.com to look at the actions > > of the AB. You are not able to post, but will get copies of all the email > > of AB sent to the list. > > > > Another thing that you might want to do rather than subscribing is to read > > the Board-L Archives. > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/board > > > > The Archives will give you a look at all past email related to discussion > of > > the GAGenWeb situation. > > > > Jan Cortez > > Banks County > > USGW NE/NC CC Rep > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michele Lewis" <frugalmom@earthlink.net> > > > > > > > Is there anyway that the higher ups at USGenWeb can handle this problem? > > I do not think it is being handled properly at the State level. I am > > curious to know if the USGenWeb people know what is going on here in GA. > > > > > > michele lewis > > > McDuffie Co > > > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > > For researching SURNAMES, check out GAGenWeb's new help page with links > > to the most popular Surname sites: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/cchelp/surname/ > > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > This list is for volunteers of the GAGenWeb Project. If you wish to address only the GAGenWeb Board, send your email to: > <GAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> > >

Thanks Jan for that info. I think I will go over and read some of the archives. Hugs... michele ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Cortez" <cristian@netonecom.net> To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [GAGEN] A question > Hi Michele, > > Yes, the USGenWeb is well aware of the problems here in GA. > > A petition for removal was submitted by some of the CC's in GA. and it was > forwarded to the AB. > > You might want to subscribe to Board-L@rootsweb.com to look at the actions > of the AB. You are not able to post, but will get copies of all the email > of AB sent to the list. > > Another thing that you might want to do rather than subscribing is to read > the Board-L Archives. > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/board > > The Archives will give you a look at all past email related to discussion of > the GAGenWeb situation. > > Jan Cortez > Banks County > USGW NE/NC CC Rep > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michele Lewis" <frugalmom@earthlink.net> > > > > Is there anyway that the higher ups at USGenWeb can handle this problem? > I do not think it is being handled properly at the State level. I am > curious to know if the USGenWeb people know what is going on here in GA. > > > > michele lewis > > McDuffie Co > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > For researching SURNAMES, check out GAGenWeb's new help page with links > to the most popular Surname sites: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/cchelp/surname/ > >

Hi Michele, Yes, the USGenWeb is well aware of the problems here in GA. A petition for removal was submitted by some of the CC's in GA. and it was forwarded to the AB. You might want to subscribe to Board-L@rootsweb.com to look at the actions of the AB. You are not able to post, but will get copies of all the email of AB sent to the list. Another thing that you might want to do rather than subscribing is to read the Board-L Archives. http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/board The Archives will give you a look at all past email related to discussion of the GAGenWeb situation. Jan Cortez Banks County USGW NE/NC CC Rep ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michele Lewis" <frugalmom@earthlink.net> > Is there anyway that the higher ups at USGenWeb can handle this problem? I do not think it is being handled properly at the State level. I am curious to know if the USGenWeb people know what is going on here in GA. > > michele lewis > McDuffie Co

Alright Junior, you know you need someone to keep you in line. Sr. Lajara taught me well and I still have a pointing stick to get after you with! <grin> And what do you mean your region is the best? We have some real fine regions here. So is that a challenge? <g> Jan Cortez Banks County ----- Original Message ----- From: "mannannan" <mannannan@maclyr.com> > Jan, > > Your name is third on the list of volunteers, even though it is against my > better judgment <grins>. For those who don't know and can't tell, I am > kidding. Jan and I go way back with this picking on eachother - at least to > the NC election last year when she gave me my nickname. > > And may I add that I am *thrilled* to see the volunteerism going on. I > certainly hope that it is something that will continue beyond today. > > Richard > > > > On Tue, 8 Apr 2003 15:08:29 -0400, Jan Cortez wrote > > I will also volunteer to help on the guidelines committee. I only > > wish that this had been done before it came to the situation we have > > here in GA. > > > > I see a petition for removal as a last resort. Maybe its being an election > > administrator for 17 years that makes me feel that way.........<sigh> > > > > Jan Cortez > > Banks County > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <jackij@chesapeake.net> > > > > > From Richard: > > > > It is my firm hope that we can get through this storm, re-establish > > ourselves > > > > as a project, and then get on with business. > > > > > > > > We will seek volunteers from which to form a committee to review and > > revise > > > > the Guidelines. > > > > > > I will volunteer. > > > > > > Jacki > > > Colquitt > > > County > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > This email message was sent using web-based email services provided by > > Chesapeake.Net > > > Internet Services. > > > http://www.chesapeake.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > > > Do you have a suggestion to include in our taglines? If so, please write > > > GAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > > For researching SURNAMES, check out GAGenWeb's new help page with links > > to the most popular Surname sites: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/cchelp/surname/ > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Have you added something signifigant to your website? Advertise it on this > list! > >

I will volunteer, but not for a committee...my husband stuck a big sign on my forehead today that reads: DOES NOT WORK WELL WITH OTHERS And when I went to change into my sweats, I found another sign on the back of my shirt: CAUTION: Stand back at least 100 ft. due to flying verbiage (Husband not responsible for damage incurred) So, no committees for me. But anything else... Dawn Watson (Egad, I feel like I'm placing an ad in the newspaper: Need help setting up surname pages? Does your HTML not click? Call 1-800-HTML-R-US for all your web site needs!) _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

Wyndell said: > If the cc's could have known the work, tearing out of the hair, the > crying, and all the other 'stuff' that the committee went thru on that > particular decision, I don't think they would be so quick to judge. My > archives show some 933 emails pertaining to the decision made in this > case. > > However..... having said all that to defend that decision, I do not > know all the background on the other incidents that brought all this > forward. I understand the need for information to be contained within > a committee, and not all released to the public. There lies the heart of the problem. We don't know. We didn't know. That line to walk between confidentiality and letting people know. Err to far one way or the other and there are problems. But at the same time, people can only work with what they know and are told. The less people know, the more they fear. It's human nature. I've said publicly more than once that we are here today at this stage because of Secrecy. I stand here and say that when CCs are removed and fellow CCs are left guessing what avenues for defence were available to them before they were removed - that we get scared. It doesn't matter if that is the right reaction or not, it is the human one. I am sure I am not alone in this from what I have seen here. But the expectation that we just need to follow along and assume that a decision was tough and it took 900+ messages to reach an educated decision is a very unrealistic demand to make on volunteers. As is the assumption that we won't be curious or in fear we may be next. Derek Nichols Echols County

As a relative "newbie" here...only two years, I hesitate to step up and volunteer among all of the veterans but I would be glad to help in any way I can. I believe I have enough experience as a CC to bring something to the plate that will be helpful. Just let me know. Unfortunately, I have more free time now than a year ago! I am self employed as a Rebar Detailer out of my home and the economy is not being kind to our industry at the moment! I am CC for two counties, Fayette and Henry. I was born in Fayette County and my Mother's family had been there since 1824 and there are members of the family still residing there. I graduated from high school in Henry County. I now live in the beautiful Appalachian mountains in Boone, NC. I have one husband and two children. My husband is a boiler maker welder and is on the road alot. My son is 18 and has no clue yet! My daughter is 14 and a freshman in high school. She plays fastpitch softball which takes up quite a bit of my time and is about to embark on a trip to Europe next Wednesday with her Latin class for 10 days....Germany, Austria and Italy. Wish it was me! I have no brick walls in Georgia, unfortunately, they are all "across the pond" and a couple in Pennsylvania. Linda Blum-Barton http://www.rootsweb.com/~gafayett/index.html http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~blumbarton/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ga/butts.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ga/fayette.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahenry/index.html All outgoing email and attachments are scanned by Norton AntiVirus 2002!

Richard, Count me in too. Melody

Tossing my pill box into the volunteer ring, also! Doesn't matter if it is for the grievance committee or another one. MK Harrison <A HREF="http://mkharrison.com">mkharrison.com</A> <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~gabarrow/">Barrow County, GA</A> <A HREF="http://www.ancestry.com/landing/homelandsweeps2/landing2.html?SourceCode=3913&iid=3913%3A+Sweepstakes+1">Ancestry.com</A> I don't know what kind of weapons will be used in the third world war, assuming there will be a third world war. But I can tell you what the fourth world war will be fought with - stone clubs. -Albert Einstein Copyright © 2003

At 06:40 PM 4/8/03 -0500, you wrote: >Actually, I was gunna draft you anyway - kinda like I did in Cobb County. >One of the nuns in my old school described a substitute teacher in a way that >kind of describes you. Sr. Margaret Thomasine described Mrs. Dorothy O'Brien >as being like an old shoe. You can't get rid of it because it is so >comfortable and wonderful to have around. Wyndell, you are my "old shoe" in >this project. Either that, or my whipping boy cuz I just keep >electrappointing you to everything. Now I am not sure that I want to serve. <gbg> I don't like being the 'whipping' boy. Had enough of that growing up. Course I am sure I need each one of them. > >Thanks for being a volunteer. We need one more. My wife has volunteered >(she is the new Evans County CC, BTW, as well as my Co-CC in Gilmer and >McIntosh). I have been hesitant because I am concerned about favoritism and >the appearance of impropriety. Does anyone else share my concern? Seems there were a lot of new folks who wanted to get involved. I have no idea as to whether they have any ties to anyone, or any ideaolgy, I think possibly you would be safe. If you remember.... I do speak my mind, and if I saw a sign of anything wrong... I will speak out. <g> Course..... others here may have other ideas, and I would welcome anyone speaking up and letting us know if there is a problem. If Tim will approve this venture, I think it could be a giant step in the right direction. We will wait to see how this idea goes. Wyndell

At 06:28 PM 4/8/03 -0500, you wrote: >What I would be willing to do, however, is assign one volunteer to handle >each region of the state (meaning we would need eight total volunteers), and >have them more or less act as "representatives", seeking ideas from their >constituency and bringing them to the committee. Richard, if you need another one, I would offer my services to the group. Wyndell Oh... if not, that is good alse. <g>

Count me in if you don't already have the numbers.... jimmy mannannan wrote: > I appreciate the volunteerism here today. I am overhwelmed and am thrilled > to have been proven wrong. > > However, the call has not yet been sent out for volunteers, nor was I > authorized to put the call out. > > I stated that we would call for volunteers AFTER the election has been > completed. Subject to, and without waiving the foregoing, I will lobby our > SC for permission to form the Committee now, that we may begin this very > important task. > > Please feel free to continue to volunteer. If more than six people > volunteer, then I would be forced to select from the list of those who have > volunteered. I would prefer not to have to do that because that might upset > some people, and I am not looking to do that. > > I have the following who have volunteered: Vivian, Jan, Jacki, Debra, Derek, > Donna and myself. So, we need at least one more person. I do not want to > limit the volunteers, only the actual number on the committee, as too many on > the committee would make an already onerous task impossible. > > What I would be willing to do, however, is assign one volunteer to handle > each region of the state (meaning we would need eight total volunteers), and > have them more or less act as "representatives", seeking ideas from their > constituency and bringing them to the committee. > > For those in the Coastal Region, I have noticed that only one of your has > volunteered (hint, hint, hint). <grins> Alright, so I am gunna favor my own > people. I know them. I respect them. I enjoy working with them. (They are > the BEST region in the State project, afterall). > > Richard > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Confused about Copyrights??? Review USGenWeb's policy on copyrights at: > http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/copyright.html

From Richard: > It is my firm hope that we can get through this storm, re-establish ourselves > as a project, and then get on with business. > > We will seek volunteers from which to form a committee to review and revise > the Guidelines. I will volunteer. Jacki Colquitt County ------------------------------------------------------------------ This email message was sent using web-based email services provided by Chesapeake.Net Internet Services. http://www.chesapeake.net/

Wyndell, Actually, I was gunna draft you anyway - kinda like I did in Cobb County. One of the nuns in my old school described a substitute teacher in a way that kind of describes you. Sr. Margaret Thomasine described Mrs. Dorothy O'Brien as being like an old shoe. You can't get rid of it because it is so comfortable and wonderful to have around. Wyndell, you are my "old shoe" in this project. Either that, or my whipping boy cuz I just keep electrappointing you to everything. Thanks for being a volunteer. We need one more. My wife has volunteered (she is the new Evans County CC, BTW, as well as my Co-CC in Gilmer and McIntosh). I have been hesitant because I am concerned about favoritism and the appearance of impropriety. Does anyone else share my concern? Richard On Tue, 08 Apr 2003 19:32:27 -0400, Wyndell Taylor wrote > At 06:28 PM 4/8/03 -0500, you wrote: > >What I would be willing to do, however, is assign one volunteer to handle > >each region of the state (meaning we would need eight total volunteers), and > >have them more or less act as "representatives", seeking ideas from their > >constituency and bringing them to the committee. > > Richard, if you need another one, I would offer my services to the group. > > Wyndell > > Oh... if not, that is good alse. <g> > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Have you added something signifigant to your website? Advertise it > on this list!