At 08:06 AM 4/9/03 -0400, Michele wrote: >This is for you folks out there that are complaining about county web sites that are mostly links... It's not 'you folks' - it our National Bylaws. Article II: Purpose: Section 2. This purpose shall be accomplished by presenting websites which shall be central repositories of historical and genealogical research data, donated either by the website coordinator or other contributors. In presenting this information, the foundation of the organization shall be at the local websites (county, township, parish, town, etc.) which shall be linked to the state websites which shall be linked to the national website. The USGenWeb Project shall also provide a "digital library" called The USGenWeb Project Archives. The National Bylaws call on CCs to make their local websites the central repository for data - not the Archives. >The archives are searchable. Therefore, I think every available bit of info should be there. I might be looking for some info on a particular person and I think he is in one county when really he is in another. The search feature of the archives handles that. Many county sites have one or more search engines on them for visitors to use. >If anyone were to take a look at the contributors of the stuff on the McDuffie archives page they would see my name a lot. They can not say that I am not doing anything buy providing links! I have persoanally surveyed 27 cemeteries in less than a month. > >If they want to be so petty about it, I could always pull all the cemeteries I have surveyed off Rootsweb completely and give no one access to it. I could write a cemetery book and get paid for it. > >The whole purpose of GenWeb is to make genealogical info free and accessible to genealogists worldwide. Have they forgotten this? We are not GenWeb. We are the USGenWeb Project - and our portion of it is GAGenWeb. Please do not use the term GenWeb. >I had no idea at all that GenWeb was so political!!! I have been using the info on the pages for several years, at least 6. I have always wanted to be a part of it. > >This is really starting to get ridiculous. > >Michele Lewis >McDuffie Co, GA > >P.S. But just to satisfy you people that oppose the links... > >I do have some stuff on my web site that is not on the archives. For example, James Malone, who can do great custom graphics, has drawn me a great map of McDuffie which shows all the old place names that aren't in existence anymore but you will find in old records. That won't go to the archives because it is not searchable. > >Another thing that is not on the archives is the list of lookup people which I hope to increase. I think doing lookups for other people is very important. > >Another thing that I am working on is a list of surnames that are being researched in McDuffie Co with names and email addresses of the researchers so that you can hook up with other people working on your lines. > >It is STUPID to have a copy of the material on the archives page AND the web site. It just takes up valuable space on the server. We are supposed to be one big happy family. This is not supposed to be a territorial issue. The info on the archives is for everyone and I am happy to provide links to it so that people can find the info they need. No it really isn't stupid to have material in more than one place. The Internet is all about redundancy. The more places material appears the better - for if one server is down or dies most likely another source is still up. Its a spreading out of the eggs instead of keeping them all together in one basket. Six years ago the argument of 'valuable space on the server' was valid but not anymore. Each year the cost of storing a megabyte of data has gone down which is most fortunate as the data has mushroomed. Tim
At 06:32 PM 4/8/03 -0500, you wrote: >I am sending this for Teri Hopper. > >She if receiving the list mail but none of her messages is going through. > >Teri volunteers to be on the committee. > >Margie Daniels That's odd for they aren't rejecting either. Tim
At 03:01 PM 4/8/03 -0500, Dawn wrote: >That's absolutely true...the Rabun Co., GAGenWeb records page is just links, >but you were wrong in saying that they all are Archives links. There's a >reason the Rabun County site is set up in that manner: the GAGenWeb bylaws >encourage copyright violation of the outgoing CC's material No they don't. What they do say is that if x person leaves the project - certain items remain with the site/project - queries or other items contributed to the county site by folks other than the CC or items of public record - never the design of the site. Some folks leave and strip the site and the site has to be rebuilt - which is a sad affair - that's why we have the provision that one agrees that certain items remain with the site upon ones departure. What the guidelines provide for the project is a method of recovering the material taken by a CC who leaves in a huff taking things not rightly theirs as agreed to by them originally. Once a new CC is found to take on the site, they are to redesign the site to their personal preferences - within the guidelines few requirements. >(I argued and >voted against that particular bylaw). When that measure was voted in, I >removed my personal material, leaving only information that I feel is >necessary for the county site, such as addresses, books, etc. Many of the >links you'll find on the records site are to my personal site, the rest to >the Archives or other sites around the Internet...where ever I found >pertinent records, that's what I link to. > >I am not the only CC who has removed their personal research from the county >sites, either, and most likely for the very same reasons. It is their right to post / not post what they wish on the site. It is up to the CC if they choose to give visitors a rich experience or a poor experience. Tim
At 10:15 AM 4/8/03 -0400, Vivian Price Saffold wrote: >Fellow GAGenWeb Coordinators, > >The upcoming vote was precipitated by a petition from some GAGenWeb county >coordinators who allege specific transgressions on the part of the state >coordinator. However, I believe there are much broader issues involved and >much more at stake. > >Our Georgia guidelines have proven to be seriously flawed, placing all >control over the project in the hands of the state coordinator and the >council, with no mandate for the governing body to accept any suggestion or >proposal from the membership (county coordinators). Please review the national bylaws - for in states without guidelines - that is a fact. That Georgia has made an effort at mandating other items puts it far ahead of most states. Are the Guidelines perfect - no. For they were created at the time - with input from the CCs of the time - to cover as many situations as we could forsee at that point in time. New situations develop - some rules worked, others haven't. So the Guidelines get polished some more. The reason items haven't been addressed as far as the Guidelines are concerned after February 4th was at the request of the National Coordinator that Georgia be frozen as it was. >Thus, the upcoming vote also addresses two questions: > >1. Is the current state coordinator willing to allow *meaningful* reform of >the guidelines to include (but not limited to) regular elections, terms and >term limits for all council members (including the state coordinator), as >well as a mechanism for member-initiated amendments? Willing? - Yes. In fact the ASC is in the process of forming a committee to study just that. >2. Given the turmoil of the past few months, can the current state >coordinator lead this project toward a more productive future, in which it >is governed in an open manner conducive to complete member participation? Governed? There's not much to govern - CCs are mostly selected by the RCs, the SC is mandated by the National Bylaws to maintain the state mailing list (GAGEN) and the state site - which is mostly a collection of links to the county sites plus a couple of Special Projects (African American and Native American), and some state history that I'm adding to the site. >As to voting, I take my citizenship in this project seriously. It is my >right, my responsibility and my privilege to vote. Not voting simply is not >an option. That is true - yet 60 - 80% of your fellow citizens opt not to vote in most elections around the country. While you may not take it as an option for yourself - the vast majority often does. As this is a free society folks have 4 options: they can opt to vote - yes, no or present or not vote. Tim
Thought I would share some of what Chuck and I did over the week-end. The Family History Center sponsored a Family History Expo at the Roswell, Georgia location that was open to the public for free and all the Historical Societies in Georgia and other Genealogical and Historical Organizations were asked to participate (free) with booths. This was a wonderful event, we met so many wonderful people and made so many contacts in this arena that we were very much pumped to work on some of the ideas that we gathered there. We were there on behalf of the Alpharetta Historical Society, and also had a booth for GaGenWeb. We placed brochures for both USGenWeb and GaGenWeb and several sheets of documentation in re to how to navigate and find information in this project. We also highlighted the Special Projects and some individual projects. I met some wonderful people from the National Archives, the State Archives, the History Center, software vendors, online genealogical and historical groups, one software and gen. group and I also met the Afrigeneious webmaster. All in all we had a wonderful day. The Alpharetta and Cobb County Historical Societies were the only "brick and mortar" societies that showed up for the event. If any of you are interested in participating in another one of these events, please zip me an email to ltlbit@springmail.com (don't reply to this email, direct it to the springmail addy), I will put you on the mailing list - Please include virtual email addy - virtual address for project you want the info for, and a Physical mailing address for hard copy mailings, along with a phone number for volunteers to contact you in coordinator efforts. It was a huge success, I think all of the vendors came away with a good feeling, I will submit some of the items here that we received feedback on in re to this project, and there was a feedback form that they could fill out and return back via email or mail if they did not do it there. This was a unique experience with classes, plenty of time to browses the booths, and just the nice informal atmosphere was wonderful. Chuck will be placing some photographs online for the Historical Society, and some for the GaGenWeb project from this event. So, if you want to participate in a "overall" great project of sharing and creativity..... send me the email ltlbit@springmail.com NOTE: I will be unsubbed from this list for the remainder of the week, if you have a crisis, please contact Margie Daniels or Tim Stowell. Brenda Pierce
Free? No, voting does not make it free, because " Freedom is not FREE" Every single person that has lost their life either in a battle or by being in the wrong place during an attack, has paid the price for freedom, I don't think any of the parents or siblings or wives would say that it is FREE. The pain and suffering by the families is in itself a horrible price to pay. The fact is that Freedom of choice is the freedom to choose if you do or do not want to vote, if you choose to do or not to do something, the fact that someone chooses not to do something is not always an indicator of whether or not they are "uninterested", it does say state one thing .... "THEY DID NOT VOTE" ..... that is their right, that is the freedom to choose or not to choose. Freedom is about choices and the right to choose whether or not you will participate in something. So please don't trample on others FREEDOM - their freedoms ARE freedom of choice .... Vivian wrote: Even sadder: I guess a lot of folks don't see that voting helps keep it free. Vivian Price Saffold Meriwether County 3570 Hildon Circle Chamblee, GA 30341 ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== Did your county's courthouse ever meet with a disaster?? Check out GAGenWeb's List and Research Tips at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/cchelp/courthouses.htm
I seem to recall alot of people leaving the USGenWeb project in a huff and flurry of feathers to create other projects, although some took counties so they would not be taken by others and "steal" all their data. ----- Original Message ----- From: <MFLP@aol.com> To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [GAGEN] data placement In a message dated 4/15/03 2:04:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tstowell@chattanooga.net writes: > While we're at it - consider AGHP or ALHN and other wannabe USGenWeb projects. Yes, you really should consider ALHN and AHGP. They are two (2) more ways for people to reach genealogy data. Everyone has a different prospective on how to present material. You will find many of the same volunteers in one or more of the projects. In addition to the three mentioned above, there are other projects that cover every county in the state. See the links on this page http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaalhn/links/galinks.html As far as "wannabe" maybe they are there because the "don'twannabe". ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== For researching SURNAMES, check out GAGenWeb's new help page with links to the most popular Surname sites: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/cchelp/surname/
galina ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "kim gordon" <kimeye1@hotmail.com> To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [GAGEN] thanks Glad you're back and everything is going well! :o) Kim >From: Bosque Lover <nana321@earthlink.net> >Reply-To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com >To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [GAGEN] thanks >Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 18:12:44 -0500 > >Hi all >I am finally "back", & want to thank you all that sent emails, snail >mails, prayers, phone calls, online cards, etc. Your warmth is >astounding, & I am very touched by it. I would write each one of you a >thank you note (the true Southern way!!) but figured I would reach you >all this way. > >I am happy to report that we got celebrate another birthday with our >daughter (hers), & that nothing was broken. The tornado threw her over >12 feet (hubby says at least 20 ft) against a brick wall, & she only >suffered a concussion! PTL!! She is over the headaches & back in >school making those good grades!! (Wish she'd done that in High >School!! lol) The damages to our "stepson-in-law's" home (a step away >from marriage <g>) were $35,000-$40,000, & renovations have now started, >& hopefully he can move back in soon. > >Please note my new address <nana321@earthlink.net>. My old ISP is no >longer servicing our area, but I can retrieve some mail. I got a new pc >for my birthday last month & have been trying to move all my files over >to it. I will try & get all of you answered as soon as I can, & want >you to know that I'm not ignoring any of you. > >Thanks again! >Bettie <>< >-- >Renew your spirit, refresh Your soul, & Rejoice with all humankind. >-- >All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002, >http://www.symantec.com/ > > > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >USGenWeb's motto is - Volunteers dedicated to free, online information. > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== Regional Coordinators are there to help County Coordinators. Don't hesitate to contact them should you have any, any question. To find info on your region visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/regional.html
In order to apply, as we have stated before a call would need to be made in request of applicant, did I miss one? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvia Caldwell Rankin" <sylvia@pickenscountyga.com> To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [GAGEN] application A few days ago (April 17th), Michelle Lewis (CC of McDuffie), requested consideration for an appointment to the position of RC of the East Central Region. Did I miss something here? I am just wondering if there was a response to her request and/or if she is (already) the new RC of East Central Region. ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== Have you added something signifigant to your website? Advertise it on this list!
The fact remains that when one signs up for a GaGenWeb site - the rules that are agreed to both national and state level are indicative of the county site being the central repository for the data - if one is not going to do that then they should not take the site. Why put something somewhere else that you won't put on the page or site that YOU maintain????? It's kind of like the army ;;;; Let your site "be all that it can be, and that's not just a links page...... just in case anyone was wondering. in re to: "my site may be links but"....
Since several folks have asked - I find this is the best way to answer all at once: Funny thing with visiting my aunt who is dying of cancer - I come away from seeing her enriched, rewarded and refreshed for she has the sweetest spirit regarding her future of anyone around her. On 4/21 they will try a one time procedure called 'gamma knife' where they inject cobalt directly into the center of each of her 3 brain tumors in hopes of killing the tumors. Two are in the front, left and right and one at the base of the brain in her neck. This procedure is a new one recently approved of by the FDA and supposedly they've had remarkable success with it. Of course this is all a delaying of the inevitable but we're grateful for such time as she has. May 19th will be her 74th birthday. Tim PS - I'm also posting replies to messages sent to the list as long ago as 4/8, as I play catch up and wading through the snow...!
Gentlefolk: Many of you may recall from last week that we announced that we would be forming a committee designed to revise the guidelines in the GeorgiaGenWeb Project. The sheer number of volunteers was overwhelming. Unfortunately, I could not accept everyone who volunteered. I wish I could. However, there must be some size constraints with any group, and I felt that eight persons (plus myself) was a perfect number. I have, however, created a position on the committee of a secretary. I will be selecting an additional volunteer to serve on the Committee as a secretary. The secretary shall, in the event of disqualification of a committee member, or the inability of a committee member to complete the daunting task ahead of us for any reason, shall assume a seat on the committee and a new secretary may be appointed. I shall serve on the Committee as Chair. I will not vote except for the purposes of breaking a tie. The SC of Georgia shall be an Ex Officio member of the Committee, which means that he shall be a member and have the right to speak and to be heard. He shall not, however, be entitled to a vote on the issues before the Committee. The Committee has a lot of work ahead of it. The first thing that each member of the Committee shall be asked to do is to read both the Georgia Guidelines and the National Guidelines. There are conflicts between the two. This issue must be addressed without delay. The second task with which I will burden the Committee shall be the creation of a County Coordinators Bill of Rights. This document shall be a companion document to the Guidelines and shall spell out the rights of the County Coordinators. The third task will be to establish procedures for the bringing and hearing of a grievance by a CC against an RC, an SC or a fellow CC. Once these tasks are complete, we shall begin the tedious process of redrafting the Guidelines. I fully expect this work to take four months, and perhaps closer to six months. Each new document shall be available for you to review at any time. I will advise you of where to locate it in the future (as that issue is resolved and the party who will maintain this information is identified). Also, each Policy, Procedure and Right shall be voted on by you, the Members. It is my hope that much of this can be handled in conjunction with the NC election that is forthcoming. The members of the Committee are (in no particular order): Derek Nichols, who will be responsible for communicating with the CCs in the Southwest Region (Jimmy Eppersons region). Kathleen Pettys, who will be responsible for communicating with the CCs in the Coastal Region (my region). Jan Cortez, who will be responsible for communicating with the CCs in the Northwest Region (Margie Daniels region). Margie Daniels, who will be responsible for communicating with the CCs in the Metro Region (Brenda Pierces Region). Debra Crosby will be responsible for the communicating with the CCs in the South Central Region (Melody McCooks region). Wyndell Taylor will be responsible for communicating with the CCs in the East Central Region (the region currently being RCed by Tim and Brenda). Gloria Holbeck will be responsible for communicating with the CCs in the Northwest Region (Bill Clodys region). Vivian Saffold (if she accepts) will be responsible for communicating with the CCs in the West Central Region (Virginia Crilleys region). I will be naming a secretary in the next few days. Thank you, Richard
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IMHO, we should write a letter to the editor of the newspaper thanking them each time they do articles on cemeteries (maybe they want take so long to do the next one). It took tem 5 months to do the articles on cemetries in Columbus, GA as they didn't think there were many interested. kemis On Sun, 13 Apr 2003 10:10:22 -0500, jimmy <eppy@ticnet.com> wrote : > Here's an interesting article that was in yesterdays Dallas news paper. > Naturally it was a lot longer in the paper than it is online, but it > tells about an old run down cemetery and how some teachers have turned > it into an educational experience for their school. > > http://www.dallasnews.com/localnews/stories/041203dnmetcemetery.da85f.html > > Spur any ideas for the teachers out there? > > > enjoy... > > jimmy
Thats great Michele!! I really think it may help you in your quest I hope so. ED GORDON CCHS Clay County GaGenWeb Early County AHGP Miller County GaGenWeb Miller County AHGP Seminole County GaGenWeb Ed and Kim's Connection's From: "Michele Lewis" <frugalmom@earthlink.net> Reply-To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GAGEN] Here is the article! Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 09:06:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([207.40.200.41]) by mc9-f25.bay6.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Sun, 13 Apr 2003 06:07:17 -0700 Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id h3DD66j4029741;Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:06:06 -0600 X-Message-Info: QIy1oIULmHeZ0Z8YVLJR2rW+uLaxt5dD Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:06:06 -0600 X-Original-Sender: frugalmom@earthlink.net Sun Apr 13 07:06:06 2003 Message-ID: <001801c301bd$771a12b0$1b769041@Lewis> Old-To: "GA GenWeb List" <GAGEN-l@rootsweb.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Resent-Message-ID: <8piAUB.A.kQH.-CWm-@lists5.rootsweb.com> Resent-From: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/4906 X-Loop: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: GAGEN-L-request@rootsweb.com Return-Path: GAGEN-L-request@rootsweb.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Apr 2003 13:07:17.0218 (UTC) FILETIME=[9BE13420:01C301BD] Here is the article the Columbia Times News did. http://www.newstimesonline.com/stories/041303/new_153-7459.shtml Too bad the online version doesn't include the picture of me with my dirty jeans and gloves :) He had me squat by a marker. Hugs! michele McDuffie Co *** All outgoing mail checked by Norton AntiVirus *** ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== Genealogy research usually begins with our great-grandparents to preserve the privacy of 'living persons'. If you encounter a person searching their birth parents, the need to go to the area on the web that deals with just this type of research. Please refer them to: http://www.adoption.org _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
That is wonderful Michele! Good luck on finding many more cemeteries! Kim Gordon Clayton & Habersham CC >From: "Michele Lewis" <frugalmom@earthlink.net> >Reply-To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com >To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [GAGEN] Here is the article! >Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 09:06:13 -0400 > >Here is the article the Columbia Times News did. > >http://www.newstimesonline.com/stories/041303/new_153-7459.shtml > >Too bad the online version doesn't include the picture of me with my dirty >jeans and gloves :) He had me squat by a marker. > >Hugs! > >michele >McDuffie Co >*** All outgoing mail checked by Norton AntiVirus *** > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >Genealogy research usually begins with our great-grandparents to preserve > the privacy of 'living persons'. If you encounter a person searching >their birth parents, the need to go to the area on the web that deals >with just this type of research. Please refer them to: >http://www.adoption.org > _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Michelle! Great news! And that is what our papers are looking for - positive, human news - so lets all go for it! You are an inspiration! MK Harrison <A HREF="http://mkharrison.com">mkharrison.com</A> <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~gabarrow/">Barrow County, GA</A> <A HREF="http://www.ancestry.com/landing/homelandsweeps2/landing2.html?SourceCode=3913&iid=3913%3A+Sweepstakes+1">Ancestry.com</A> I don't know what kind of weapons will be used in the third world war, assuming there will be a third world war. But I can tell you what the fourth world war will be fought with - stone clubs. -Albert Einstein Copyright © 2003
Michele, Wonderful article. I wish everyone would do the same! If we all tried in our little sections of the world, imagine what we could do! Frequently many of us are not interested until it is to late. I did the same with my family. <sigh> Now when I want that info, many family members are gone. We have a cemetery where I live in Michigan, that was used by the county poor farm. Now it's in the hands of a private party. The guy that owns it, wants others to believe that the graves were removed, and he wants to make an easement thru that area. I'm sorry folks, but, even though I don't have family there, I would not want that to happen to my folks. I am trying my darndest to find some records, other than the few I have in my township office, to establish who is there. I want the township or county to buy the land from him and when all sources have been exhausted for who is there to put a memorial stone on the small section of property. Maybe they won't know exactly where their family member was buried in that section, but there should be a memorial to them, giving them some closure. Guess I'd have to say that you have tapped my passion as well. After reading your atricle, I will be back at it on Monday with more energy than ever. Thanks Michele for your wonderful story and your love and concern for our ancestors. Jan Cortez ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michele Lewis" <frugalmom@earthlink.net> > Here is the article the Columbia Times News did. > > http://www.newstimesonline.com/stories/041303/new_153-7459.shtml > > Too bad the online version doesn't include the picture of me with my dirty jeans and gloves :) He had me squat by a marker. > > Hugs! > > michele > McDuffie Co > *** All outgoing mail checked by Norton AntiVirus *** > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Genealogy research usually begins with our great-grandparents to preserve > the privacy of 'living persons'. If you encounter a person searching > their birth parents, the need to go to the area on the web that deals > with just this type of research. Please refer them to: > http://www.adoption.org > >
Here's an interesting article that was in yesterdays Dallas news paper. Naturally it was a lot longer in the paper than it is online, but it tells about an old run down cemetery and how some teachers have turned it into an educational experience for their school. http://www.dallasnews.com/localnews/stories/041203dnmetcemetery.da85f.html Spur any ideas for the teachers out there? enjoy... jimmy
In a message dated 4/13/03 9:06:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, frugalmom@earthlink.net writes: > http://www.newstimesonline.com/stories/041303/new_153-7459.shtml Very nice Michele. I hope you get lots of calls. It reminded me of one of the sources I used that I may not have mentioned. The GA DOT maps for your county. I was using a 1965 map and they just had little dotted rectangles that represented cemeteries. Some were close to churches but some weren't. These turned out to be family. Dona