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    1. [GAGEN] [USGW-Discuss] Query Express Notice
    2. Joy Fisher
    3. Query Express will essentially cease to exist on May 1st when Surname Helper (SH) is killed. If you have any queries stored: http://qexpress.rootsweb.com/sites/xx/cccccc.html where xx = 2 letter state code cccccc = first 6 (or less) letters of your county name You will need to snag your queries, because I do not know how long rw will keep the connection open once they shut down SH. QE is also being used by many WGW countries, please pass the word on to them.

    04/21/2003 08:01:21
    1. Re: [GAGEN] application
    2. In a message dated 4/22/03 12:27:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, margie@majorinternet.net writes: > The only person that can answer that question is Tim. Tim, Would you please share the names of the GaGenWeb Council with those of the CCs who do not know, including me, or post the link to the names? Thank you so much. Donna

    04/21/2003 07:28:33
    1. FW: [GAGEN] Need apology from Linda
    2. Margie
    3. Carol, You are not in a position to call me down. You are a CC just like me. I replied to a message that was already posted. If you have a problem with me posting to the wrong list contact Tim. But as far as you calling me down you don't have that authority. Just in case nobody told you. You don't have to answer every email in defense of others that are totally capable of reading and writing. Margie -----Original Message----- From: Carol C-H [mailto:cch@netdoor.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 9:12 AM To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Need apology from Linda Margie, with all due respect, you asked that this sort of discussion be taken to GALINA. Why, then, do you continue to post complaints and such on this list? Linda Lewis is not a member of this list - why bother everyone with gripes about her, when she will not even see them? Carol At 01:13 AM 4/21/2003, Margie wrote: >Virgina, > >In all due respect Linda needs to send her apology to the list and Tim can >forward it. > >I would not want you speaking for Linda and assuming what she may be >thinking. > >You know what happens when you assume. > >Another question is that Linda Lewis applied for the trademark for the >USGENWEB archives in her name, do you know if she got it? I also wondered >why she applied for it in her individual name and not the project name. > >Do you happen to know who holds the trademark for the census project? I >understand it was once part of the USGENWEB project but someone scooped the >trademark and now I think if I read the statement correctly that that >project does not belong to the USGENWEB project. > >These are some of the concerns that I have about the archives. > > >Hope someone can explain this. > >Margie > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Crilley [mailto:varcsix@hot.rr.com] >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 3:12 PM >To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [GAGEN] Apology > > >To all those who were offended by Linda's note (and I feel certain she did >not mean to offend anyone) and since Linda is not on this GAGenWeb list, >may I express my own personal apology. > >Margie, Jan, Gloria, and Tim --- I always welcome your input. If there is >a specific event which you are referring to, please write me privately. > >I apologize to the entire CC list for adding more mail to your mail boxes. > >E-mail can sometimes be misunderstood, and I never want to appear rude to >any individuals. > >We're all part of the GAGenWeb team, and I respect every one of you! > > > >Virginia Crilley > > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >Genealogy research usually begins with our great-grandparents to preserve > the privacy of 'living persons'. If you encounter a person searching >their birth parents, the need to go to the area on the web that deals >with just this type of research. Please refer them to: >http://www.adoption.org > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.471 / Virus Database: 269 - Release Date: 4/10/2003 > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release Date: 4/18/2003 > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >Genealogy research usually begins with our great-grandparents to preserve > the privacy of 'living persons'. If you encounter a person searching >their birth parents, the need to go to the area on the web that deals >with just this type of research. Please refer them to: >http://www.adoption.org Carol C-H <cch@netdoor.com> http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/ ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== This list is for volunteers of the GAGenWeb Project. If you wish to address only the GAGenWeb Board, send your email to: <GAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release Date: 4/18/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release Date: 4/18/2003

    04/21/2003 06:06:50
    1. [GAGEN] Re: [BOARD-L] Fwd: [EC] Results - GAGenWeb SC Recall Election
    2. Debra Crosby
    3. Wow 35 voted yes, 25 voted no, 2 voted present.. Though that did not reach the "quorum: and we (petitioners) did not win, I certainly say that it dang sure speaks volumes to me. Especially when you consider that in any election including the presidential election, 50% won't even bother to vote. Says to me that the majority thinks we need help with the leadership. Debra Crosby ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard (Isaiah) Harrison To: BOARD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:02 PM Subject: [BOARD-L] Fwd: [EC] Results - GAGenWeb SC Recall Election The project thanks Ellen Pack and the members of the Elections Committee and to Larry Stephens for all their efforts to conduct this election in a fair and impartial manner. -Isaiah >TO: National Coordinator and Advisory Board, USGenWeb >FROM: USGenWeb Elections Committee >SUBJECT: Results - GAGenWeb SC Recall Election >DATE: 21 April 2003 > >The USGenWeb Election Committee has certified the results of the GAGenWeb >SC Recall Election, as follows: > >GAGenWeb CC portion of election - > >Ballots received: > > Yes: 35 > No: 27 > Present: 2 > > Total: 64 > >A quorum was not reached. > >Breakdown: > >The voter list that Tim Stowell sent, and which the EC was instructed to >use, had 128 names on it. Passwords were sent to those 128. > >Of those 128, 10 addresses bounced. Checking the local web sites of those >individuals resulted in resolving 3 of the 10. With the help of Jimmy >Epperson, SEMA CC Rep, we were able to resolve 3 more of the 10. > >Of the 4 remaining, 3 have resigned (either the web site is up for >adoption, or there are messages in GAGEN stating that fact). > >There is 1 MIA CC who is still listed on the web site, but for which we do >not have a valid e-mail addy. All attempts (Google searches, posting to >the county mailing list, discrete inquiries) failed to turn up another addy. > >The result is that a total of 124 passwords actually reached voters. >Larry Stephens reports there were a total of 73 ballots received. > >According to Larry: > >"However, one Present voter has requested their vote be rescinded. They >sent me an email stating they had no intention of submitting a ballot and >their email account had been compromised. When I asked how, the >explanation given was believable. If that is accepted by whomever, that >will reduce the figures above accordingly. > >"3 votes disallowed because of incorrect passwords. Despite clear >instructions a handful of people did not cut-and-paste their passwords. 2 >or 3 others were technically incorrect but I accepted them (e.g., someone >substituting the letter O for the digit zero)." > >Advisory Board portion of election: > >A total of 11 passwords were sent to AB members. Ten passwords were >originally sent, due to an error by the EC Chair. When it was learned on >Friday, April 18, 2003 that AB member Vicki Shaffer >had been inadvertently omitted from the list, a password was sent to her >that day. > > From Larry Stephens: > >Seven AB members voted: > >"Tina Vickery, Jimmy Epperson, and Vicki Shafer voted Yes. >Jan Cortez, Bill Oliver, Karen Mitchell and Phyllis Rippee voted No." > >Thus concludes the GAGenWeb Recall Election. The EC would like to extend >sincere thanks to everyone who participated, and especially to Larry Stephens. > > >Respectfully Submitted, > >Ellen Pack >Chair, USGenWeb Election Committee ==== BOARD Mailing List ==== "No man is good enough to govern another man without that other's consent." Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)

    04/21/2003 05:20:16
    1. RE: [GAGEN] application
    2. Margie
    3. The only person that can answer that question is Tim. I respectfully request that these kinds of questions be made of the SC and not the whole list since we cannot answer this question. Please direct your questions to the person that can give you the answer and not to the list. Please, Margie -----Original Message----- From: Sylvia Caldwell Rankin [mailto:sylvia@pickenscountyga.com] Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 9:24 AM To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GAGEN] application A few days ago (April 17th), Michelle Lewis (CC of McDuffie), requested consideration for an appointment to the position of RC of the East Central Region. Did I miss something here? I am just wondering if there was a response to her request and/or if she is (already) the new RC of East Central Region. ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== Have you added something signifigant to your website? Advertise it on this list! --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release Date: 4/18/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release Date: 4/18/2003

    04/21/2003 05:02:20
    1. Re: [GAGEN] A Secretary
    2. In a message dated 4/21/03 10:45:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, margie@majorinternet.net writes: > You are completely mistaken.> > I keep every email that comes across the Gagenweb list. All business.> > Margie Then would you please answer the question? I am glad someone is on top of it on the Council. Thank you. Donna

    04/21/2003 05:01:40
    1. [GAGEN] Re: [GALINA-L] GALina or GAGenWeb...???
    2. Debra Crosby
    3. In fact if you go back and look at the archives Sylvia only mentioned a portion of the email which was sent to her, she did not send us the name of the sender, and if you look further you will find that it was TIM (our SC) who mentioned the senders name when he reprimanded Sylvia even though she had two very very legitimate GaGenweb questions. It's in the archives if you so choose to look. http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GAGEN/2003-04 I've tried to be quiet and to stay out of the fire however I am just sick at this. Sylvia was totally reprimanded for her actions and I have seen so much come over this list from Margie and Gloria in just the last 24 hours which would have any one of us removed or at the very least monitored. Just goes to show who are the favored. Let's face it folks,, there was even a reprimand from Brenda for welcoming Bettie Woods back after all her trials . I also want to mention to all CC's on this list that Bettie Wood's Family Group Project has now been removed from the USGENWEB. I personally as a CC have received many comments from researchers about her project and I would suggest to all CC's to put a link to her pages where it can be found by researchers (since our leaders no longer think researchers want it, and that being only since Bettie decided to speak out for CC;s) I have placed a link to it on all of my pages. http://www.rootsweb.com/~garichmo/groupindx.html Debra Crosby ----- Original Message ----- From: Derek Nichols To: GALINA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [GALINA-L] GALina or GAGenWeb...??? > At 05:14 PM 4/20/03 -0400, Sylvia Caldwell Rankin wrote: > >I guess this lets the cat out of the bag as to who sent me the > >private email, eh? > > Not really - for you did that yourself when you published her message > in its entirety - beyond fair use. Again, at no point did Sylvia state who the email was from in her quote. Again, all the SC has time to do is attack Sylvia, rather than address the issue that Sylvia was also attacked by a fellow CC. Why? Why? Why? Did Sylvia make a mistake in posting the email, maybe, I never saw the original. That doesn't mean the SC can go on and attack her as well, and ignore her complaint about being attacked. People want peace and respect. Well how about we start getting some from those who Lead Us. Derek Nichols Echols County, GA

    04/21/2003 04:54:56
    1. [GAGEN] Parliamentarian Needed
    2. mannannan
    3. We have a need for a Parliamentarian on the Guidelines Revision Committee. This person would have a role only when there is an issue as to parliamentary procedure. If you have been a Parliamentarian before and are interested in serving in that capacity, please email me privately. Thanks, Richard

    04/21/2003 03:30:47
    1. RE: [GAGEN] A Secretary
    2. Margie
    3. You are completely mistaken. I keep every email that comes across the Gagenweb list. All business. Margie -----Original Message----- From: MFLP@aol.com [mailto:MFLP@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 6:18 AM To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GAGEN] A Secretary In a message dated 4/17/03 2:30:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tstowell@chattanooga.net writes: > The Council does not at the present time have a Secretary. We have no need > of coffee thus no need for a secretary In other words? the Council conducts no business that anyone keeps up with? ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== This list is for volunteers of the GAGenWeb Project. If you wish to address only the GAGenWeb Board, send your email to: <GAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.471 / Virus Database: 269 - Release Date: 4/10/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release Date: 4/18/2003

    04/21/2003 01:57:20
    1. RE: [GAGEN] Page was independent
    2. Margie
    3. Thank you so very much Donna for bringing this to my attention. I have shared borders for all my pages and this one is not working for some reason. This was actually a redirect page from several years ago when we were asked to change our url's to just index. The redirect page does not say INDEPENDENT PAGE and had Tim contacted me about this redirect page I surely would have brought it into compliance and would most certainly have responded with an apology for the error on my part. Margie Daniels RC Northeast region -----Original Message----- From: MFLP@aol.com [mailto:MFLP@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 5:45 AM To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Page was independent In a message dated 4/16/03 11:13:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, margie@majorinternet.net writes: > We should never have a site for one hour > much one day that says Independent that is linked from our County Table. Exactly, that's why the link should have been changed to http://www.rootsweb.com/~gadawson/gagen/ and after I gave up Gordon County and asked on this list for the link to be changed to the new page, SOME RC told me they probably weren't ready and it had been up how many days? and my logos gone how long? and this page doesn't have any logos http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacrawfo/gacrawford.htm therefore it has been abandoned. Right? Donna ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== This list is for volunteers of the GAGenWeb Project. If you wish to address only the GAGenWeb Board, send your email to: <GAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.471 / Virus Database: 269 - Release Date: 4/10/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release Date: 4/18/2003

    04/21/2003 01:54:22
    1. [GAGEN] Let's Move On
    2. mannannan
    3. Peoples, We have recently been through a very tough time in the GeorgiaGenWeb Project. We all know that an election was held. Approximately two-thirds of the 96 necessary for a quorum voted (62 out of the needed 96). Moreover, less than HALF of the members of the Project voted. Regardless of the actual outcome, the opinion expressed by 35 of the 62 voters has been heard loud and clear. We have two choices in our future. We can go forward as a Project with unity of purpose, or we can sit here and say "shoulda, coulda, woulda", which is to say that we can sit here and argue that Tim really did not prevail, but, because there was not a quorum, the results were kicked out. There is no way to know how those other 66 voters would have voted, and any attempts to discern that or crunch the numbers would be purely speculative and would be an exercise in futility. My recommendation is that we go forward together as a project, and that we find common ground to go forward on. The issues presented in the Petitions are now behind us. They are resolved. You may not be satisfied with their final result, but they are, nonetheless, resolved and in the past. We have a Guidelines Revision Committee that is starting to work on the CC's Bill of Rights and making the current Guidelines comply with the National Guidelines. These are important tasks that we want to complete prior to the upcoming NC and AB elections so that we can have something before the Membership and effective as soon as possible and have something in the form of the protections that we all need and deserve without any undue delay. If you are not able to let go of the past, or if you are of the opinion that the issues were not resolved and are unwilling to let go of them, then perhaps it is time for you to resign from the project. I hate to sound harsh and mean, but, at this point, we need people who are willing to let the wounds heal and move forward, not people who are going to continue to pick at the scab until it continues to bleed again. I hope everyone chooses to stay. Richard

    04/21/2003 11:41:32
    1. Re: [GAGEN] Need apology from Linda
    2. In a message dated 4/21/03 12:55:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gholback_1999@yahoo.com writes: > Donna, look for messages posted by Virginia this past week. Thanks Gloria, I found it. Virginia posted it and Virginia apologized. OK

    04/21/2003 08:23:37
    1. ALSO - Re: [GAGEN] Who has legal rights over the USGenWeb Archives Project Now?
    2. Carol C-H
    3. http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78006402&action=Request+Status Carol At 11:41 AM 4/21/2003, John Holback wrote: >What I would like to know is what is the status of the trademark for >USGenWeb Archives Project. Who has the right to rent, sell, trade the use >of the project? Did Linda ever transfer the trademark to the USGenWeb >Project? Whose name is on the most recent trademark for the USGenWeb >Project? Guess I should have paid more attention back when it was taking >place but since I did not use the Archives as a place to store material for >the counties which I host I guess I was not interested which is a shame for >anything that affects the USGenWeb and the GAGenWeb Projects should be of >interest to anyone who cares about the projects and wants to see them >continue as non profit organizations and never to be sold, traded, rented, >leased or such by any parties. So could someone provide a definite answer >to those questions and back it up with where we can find the documents which >would proves whose name is on the trademark now? Gloria >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Connie Burkett" <Connie@wvdsl.net> >To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:58 AM >Subject: RE: [GAGEN] Need apology from Linda > > > > Tim, > > I would assume the Linda Lewis used the same procedure for applying for > > a Trademark as the Census Project did some time after Linda filed. The > > Census Project was able to apply for the Trademark in the Census > > Project's name and still have a point of contact in a person's name. > > Why couldn't Linda do it that way, unless perhaps she purposely wanted > > it to be in her name? > > > > Connie > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tim Stowell [mailto:tstowell@chattanooga.net] > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:50 AM > > To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Need apology from Linda > > > > > Another question is that Linda Lewis applied for the trademark for the > > > USGENWEB archives in her name, do you know if she got it? I also > > > wondered why she applied for it in her individual name and not the > > > project name. > > > > Because the application asked for a person's name - it did not want an > > organization's name for it had to have a real person to contact. > > > > > Do you happen to know who holds the trademark for the census project? > > > I understand it was once part of the USGENWEB project but someone > > > scooped the trademark and now I think if I read the statement > > correctly > > > that that project does not belong to the USGENWEB project. > > > > > Hope someone can explain this. > > > > There is no trademark on the census project for it was, to my > > understanding blocked by the Project's application for the servicemark. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------via webmail---- > > Tim Stowell > > tstowell@chattanooga.net > > > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > > USGenWeb's motto is - Volunteers dedicated to free, online information. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > > Regional Coordinators are there to help County Coordinators. Don't > > hesitate to contact them should you have any, any question. To find > > info on your region visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/regional.html > > > > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >Got a problem? Contact your RC or ASC at GAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com Carol C-H <cch@netdoor.com> http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/

    04/21/2003 08:02:09
    1. Re: [GAGEN] Who has legal rights over the USGenWeb Archives Project Now?
    2. Carol C-H
    3. http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=qjl2nr.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=usgenweb&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA2%24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Query Carol At 11:41 AM 4/21/2003, John Holback wrote: >What I would like to know is what is the status of the trademark for >USGenWeb Archives Project. Who has the right to rent, sell, trade the use >of the project? Did Linda ever transfer the trademark to the USGenWeb >Project? Whose name is on the most recent trademark for the USGenWeb >Project? Guess I should have paid more attention back when it was taking >place but since I did not use the Archives as a place to store material for >the counties which I host I guess I was not interested which is a shame for >anything that affects the USGenWeb and the GAGenWeb Projects should be of >interest to anyone who cares about the projects and wants to see them >continue as non profit organizations and never to be sold, traded, rented, >leased or such by any parties. So could someone provide a definite answer >to those questions and back it up with where we can find the documents which >would proves whose name is on the trademark now? Gloria >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Connie Burkett" <Connie@wvdsl.net> >To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:58 AM >Subject: RE: [GAGEN] Need apology from Linda > > > > Tim, > > I would assume the Linda Lewis used the same procedure for applying for > > a Trademark as the Census Project did some time after Linda filed. The > > Census Project was able to apply for the Trademark in the Census > > Project's name and still have a point of contact in a person's name. > > Why couldn't Linda do it that way, unless perhaps she purposely wanted > > it to be in her name? > > > > Connie > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tim Stowell [mailto:tstowell@chattanooga.net] > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:50 AM > > To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Need apology from Linda > > > > > Another question is that Linda Lewis applied for the trademark for the > > > USGENWEB archives in her name, do you know if she got it? I also > > > wondered why she applied for it in her individual name and not the > > > project name. > > > > Because the application asked for a person's name - it did not want an > > organization's name for it had to have a real person to contact. > > > > > Do you happen to know who holds the trademark for the census project? > > > I understand it was once part of the USGENWEB project but someone > > > scooped the trademark and now I think if I read the statement > > correctly > > > that that project does not belong to the USGENWEB project. > > > > > Hope someone can explain this. > > > > There is no trademark on the census project for it was, to my > > understanding blocked by the Project's application for the servicemark. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------via webmail---- > > Tim Stowell > > tstowell@chattanooga.net > > > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > > USGenWeb's motto is - Volunteers dedicated to free, online information. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > > Regional Coordinators are there to help County Coordinators. Don't > > hesitate to contact them should you have any, any question. To find > > info on your region visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/regional.html > > > > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >Got a problem? Contact your RC or ASC at GAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com Carol C-H <cch@netdoor.com> http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/

    04/21/2003 07:56:39
    1. [GAGEN] Surname Helper
    2. Tim Stowell
    3. Effective 1 May 2003, RootsWeb will discontinue support for Surname Helper and remove it from their servers. Surname Helper users must select some other indexing program in their profile settings (such as CCHelper <http://www.rootsweb.com/~cchelper/>) as the program that indexes Query Express. This must be done before Surname Helper is removed from RootsWeb's servers. -Isaiah Richard "Isaiah" Harrison National Coordinator The USGenWeb Project ------------------------------------------------------via webmail---- Tim Stowell tstowell@chattanooga.net

    04/21/2003 07:50:04
    1. Re: [GAGEN] Need apology from Linda
    2. kim gordon
    3. It was on this list. Kim >From: Gloria Holback <gholback_1999@yahoo.com> >Reply-To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com >To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Need apology from Linda >Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 09:55:07 -0700 (PDT) > >Donna, look for messages posted by Virginia this past week. Forget what >day..but there are not many on the list from Virginia so they won't be hard >to locate among those posted. Just go to the rootsweb archives for the >gagen L and also galina as I forget which list it was on...Gloria > >MFLP@aol.com wrote:Would someone tell me where to read what Linda needs to >apologize to this >list for? > >I ran Al-Jazeera thru search for this list and didn't find her post. I >wouldn't have know about it if Margie hadn't posted it. >It was my understanding that Al-Jazeera was a media outlet ?? > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >This list is for volunteers of the GAGenWeb Project. If you wish to address >only the GAGenWeb Board, send your email to: > > > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >Confused about Copyrights??? Review USGenWeb's policy on copyrights at: > http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/copyright.html > _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

    04/21/2003 07:07:16
    1. Re: [GAGEN] Sent the proof to Tim
    2. kim gordon
    3. Well I can't do that because you are part of Tim's Mafia. There are others that know this for a fact too. I am not the only one that tried to get the information to this county and was totally ignored. Kim >From: "Margie" <margie@majorinternet.net> >Reply-To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com >To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [GAGEN] Sent the proof to Tim >Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 01:26:18 -0500 > >You need to send your email proof to Tim and that person will be placed on >notice if you can prove that you sent the data. > >Margie > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: kim gordon [mailto:kimeye1@hotmail.com] >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:53 AM >To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Ok, now I am mad > > >That is the same reason I joined AHGP. I tried and tried to donate >material >only to be ignored so I started my own site on AHGP that is growing quite >nicely. > > > >Kim > > > > >From: MFLP@aol.com > >Reply-To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com > >To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Ok, now I am mad > >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 06:48:17 EDT > > > >In a message dated 4/16/03 11:15:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > >margie@majorinternet.net writes: > > > Suggestion here.> > > > What is the history of AHGP AND AHLN?> > > > Who are they, where were then before they started these projects? > > > >I joined when GaGenWeb coordinators wouldn't answer me, when I had some > >material to donate. > > > >Donna > > > > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > >Got a problem? Contact your RC or ASC at GAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >USGenWeb's motto is - Volunteers dedicated to free, online information. > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.471 / Virus Database: 269 - Release Date: 4/10/2003 > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release Date: 4/18/2003 > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >For researching SURNAMES, check out GAGenWeb's new help page with links >to the most popular Surname sites: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/cchelp/surname/ > _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

    04/21/2003 06:51:19
    1. RE: [GAGEN] Ok, now I am mad
    2. kim gordon
    3. Margie, With all due respect, I believe my question was to Tim. I HAVE NOT mentioned any name. In my opinion, stealing from another site should also be listed in the guidelines/bylaws. Kim >From: "Margie" <margie@majorinternet.net> >Reply-To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com >To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [GAGEN] Ok, now I am mad >Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 01:34:55 -0500 > >To be perfectly honest. > >NO. > >CC hat on here. > >It is none of your business what goes on between my RC, ASC and RC. > >If I cannot handle my problems then you and others on this certainly cannot >do so. > >I am college educated, have a good lawyer and know my rights and how to >follow the proper protocol. > >The problem here is that there is an invasion of privacy, mine and others >personal business. > >WE have a council that is kept abreast of what is going on. > >If a problem arises the council is notified and the problem is discussed. > >It is none of anyone's business if I have a broke link, you don't have the >right to inspect my pages, nobody gave a cc the authority to nit pick the >pages on what is there. The Bylaws state that the county pages are to be >inspected, the guidelines require inspection by the RC of the area not >another CC. CC's have equal standing. > >I can have it tweaked out, flash, frames any way I want it, not like others >want it and the criticism is unjust. The Bylaws of the whole project >USGENWEB allow us to build our pages like we want to. > >The concern should be that the counties have become a bunch of links in >violation of the bylaws and the guidelines. > > >Margie > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: kim gordon [mailto:kimeye1@hotmail.com] >Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 7:51 AM >To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Ok, now I am mad > > > >Is this really fair to the CCs of GAGenWeb to paint everyone with the >same > >brush? > > > >Individual people make individual decisions as to what to post, not post >or > >totally ignore. Individual people making said decisions do not speak for > >everyone in the project. > > > >As the President said in the last couple of days - each situation >presents > >itself to be dealt with its own response. It does not mean that the >whole > >project or persons in the project would do the same. > > > >Tim > > >Don't you think it's fair for all CC's to know what is going on? If we are >supposed to be a happy "family", it's only fair that CC's know everything >that is going on. Would you rather me name the CC that is doing this????? > >Kim > >_________________________________________________________________ >The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >Have you added something signifigant to your website? Advertise it on this >list! > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.471 / Virus Database: 269 - Release Date: 4/10/2003 > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release Date: 4/18/2003 > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >USGenWeb's motto is - Volunteers dedicated to free, online information. > _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

    04/21/2003 06:43:29
    1. [GAGEN] Who has legal rights over the USGenWeb Archives Project Now?
    2. John Holback
    3. What I would like to know is what is the status of the trademark for USGenWeb Archives Project. Who has the right to rent, sell, trade the use of the project? Did Linda ever transfer the trademark to the USGenWeb Project? Whose name is on the most recent trademark for the USGenWeb Project? Guess I should have paid more attention back when it was taking place but since I did not use the Archives as a place to store material for the counties which I host I guess I was not interested which is a shame for anything that affects the USGenWeb and the GAGenWeb Projects should be of interest to anyone who cares about the projects and wants to see them continue as non profit organizations and never to be sold, traded, rented, leased or such by any parties. So could someone provide a definite answer to those questions and back it up with where we can find the documents which would proves whose name is on the trademark now? Gloria ----- Original Message ----- From: "Connie Burkett" <Connie@wvdsl.net> To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:58 AM Subject: RE: [GAGEN] Need apology from Linda > Tim, > I would assume the Linda Lewis used the same procedure for applying for > a Trademark as the Census Project did some time after Linda filed. The > Census Project was able to apply for the Trademark in the Census > Project's name and still have a point of contact in a person's name. > Why couldn't Linda do it that way, unless perhaps she purposely wanted > it to be in her name? > > Connie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Stowell [mailto:tstowell@chattanooga.net] > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:50 AM > To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Need apology from Linda > > > Another question is that Linda Lewis applied for the trademark for the > > USGENWEB archives in her name, do you know if she got it? I also > > wondered why she applied for it in her individual name and not the > > project name. > > Because the application asked for a person's name - it did not want an > organization's name for it had to have a real person to contact. > > > Do you happen to know who holds the trademark for the census project? > > I understand it was once part of the USGENWEB project but someone > > scooped the trademark and now I think if I read the statement > correctly > > that that project does not belong to the USGENWEB project. > > > Hope someone can explain this. > > There is no trademark on the census project for it was, to my > understanding blocked by the Project's application for the servicemark. > > ------------------------------------------------------via webmail---- > Tim Stowell > tstowell@chattanooga.net > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb's motto is - Volunteers dedicated to free, online information. > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Regional Coordinators are there to help County Coordinators. Don't > hesitate to contact them should you have any, any question. To find > info on your region visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/regional.html >

    04/21/2003 06:41:34
    1. Re: [GAGEN] Need apology from Linda
    2. Would someone tell me where to read what Linda needs to apologize to this list for? I ran Al-Jazeera thru search for this list and didn't find her post. I wouldn't have know about it if Margie hadn't posted it. It was my understanding that Al-Jazeera was a media outlet ??

    04/21/2003 06:30:47