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    1. [GAGEN] The view from the outside
    2. Gloria Holback
    3. Nor did I say: the 35 would use their feet...Joy Fisher made that statement ....I stated it was a negative comment....and should not have been included in her otherwise insightful message. Gloria --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

    04/23/2003 05:14:53
    1. Re: [GAGEN] The view from the outside
    2. Joy Fisher
    3. Hi Gloria: It was neither a threat nor a promise. I was only mulling over in my mind the options of those who felt strongly enough to vote for a change. It is up to you as CCs and SCs and RCs to try to reform your state infrastructure so these CCs do not feel the vote was a waste of time. It is not enough to just say "OK, show's over - go back to working on your web sites" without trying to reach some sort of resolution of those issues that started the recall in the first place. --- Gloria Holback <gholback_1999@yahoo.com> wrote: > Not a very nice thing to say, or was it a threat? > The next time these 35 > vote, it may be with their feet. > > > Joy Fisher <sdgenweb@yahoo.com> wrote:OK, I have > been here for 13 days, and I'll probably > get myself unsubbed, but I have bit my tongue long > enough. > > I have belonged to many, many state lists over the > years and I will have to say I have never seen so > much > hateful, disrespectful mail as I have seen on this > list. Would you write the things I have seen on this > list if you were writing to your grandmother? > > I am seeing a leadership in GA, that seems to be in > denial. You can talk percentages all you want. The > fact is that over 50% of the membership did take the > time to vote and more than half of them want a > change. > USGenWeb has never had a better turnout for an > election. Unless the leadership can make some > changes > and reach out to the 35 who want a change, you will > have a continuing problem. The next time these 35 > vote, it may be with their feet. > > Lastly, the Archives is not your enemy. The Archives > is a library without reference librarians. The only > folks there are unpaid shelvers putting stuff on the > shelves for all to use. You are free to use the > materials (by linking), but if you want to use the > materials on your web sites, all you need to do is > ask > the person who submitted the material for > permission. > I would not dream of using your materials without > your > permission. Like it or not, the Archives has the > only > national search engines. When someone left home and > "went west" after the Civil War, you have the option > of looking in several thousand individual counties > or > using a national search engine. > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo > http://search.yahoo.com > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Did your county's courthouse ever meet with a > disaster?? > Check out GAGenWeb's List and Research Tips at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/cchelp/courthouses.htm > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > This list is for volunteers of the GAGenWeb Project. > If you wish to address only the GAGenWeb Board, > send your email to: > <GAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com

    04/23/2003 04:11:10
    1. Re: [GAGEN] The view from the outside
    2. Gloria Holback
    3. Joy, telling the people who voted no not to remove Tim that those who voted yes might vote with their feet the next time could have been left out of your otherwise insightful message. That is not something that any of us need to have appear on the list at this point in time. You comment about how much has gone back and forth and then you put that comment in your message was not positive. But a negative remark which does not make any of us feel any better about what has been happening. Gloria Joy Fisher <sdgenweb@yahoo.com> wrote:OK, I have been here for 13 days, and I'll probably get myself unsubbed, but I have bit my tongue long enough. I have belonged to many, many state lists over the years and I will have to say I have never seen so much hateful, disrespectful mail as I have seen on this list. Would you write the things I have seen on this list if you were writing to your grandmother? I am seeing a leadership in GA, that seems to be in denial. You can talk percentages all you want. The fact is that over 50% of the membership did take the time to vote and more than half of them want a change. USGenWeb has never had a better turnout for an election. Unless the leadership can make some changes and reach out to the 35 who want a change, you will have a continuing problem. The next time these 35 vote, it may be with their feet. Lastly, the Archives is not your enemy. The Archives is a library without reference librarians. The only folks there are unpaid shelvers putting stuff on the shelves for all to use. You are free to use the materials (by linking), but if you want to use the materials on your web sites, all you need to do is ask the person who submitted the material for permission. I would not dream of using your materials without your permission. Like it or not, the Archives has the only national search engines. When someone left home and "went west" after the Civil War, you have the option of looking in several thousand individual counties or using a national search engine. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== Did your county's courthouse ever meet with a disaster?? Check out GAGenWeb's List and Research Tips at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/cchelp/courthouses.htm --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

    04/23/2003 04:07:37
    1. Re: [GAGEN] The Vote - explained
    2. mannannan
    3. Thank you, Joy. Richard ---------- Original Message ----------- From: Joy Fisher <sdgenweb@yahoo.com> To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 07:38:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GAGEN] The Vote - explained > GaGenWeb Members - > > These are the final numbers as reported to the EC by > Larry Stephens: > > 74 votes were received. > > 3 were disallowed because their password wasn't even > close to right. That > leaves a net of 71. > > Of the 71, 7 were AB votes, which leaves 64 votes from > CCs. > > Of the CC group: > > 35 voted yes. > 27 voted no. > 2 voted present. > --- > 64 > > However, one of the "present" says their email was > compromised and they did > not intend to cast any vote. If you choose to > disregard that vote then it > becomes 73, 63, and 1 present. > > I apologize for initially reporting a total of 73 > votes, due to a last > minute miscalculation on my part. There were 74. > However, that error did > not alter the results in any way. > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo > http://search.yahoo.com > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Got a problem? Contact your RC or ASC at GAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com ------- End of Original Message -------

    04/23/2003 04:00:12
    1. [GAGEN] Re: Business at Hand
    2. shadri
    3. Gaila, I know what you mean! I long to know all the counties in Georgia my ancestors lived in before moving into North Florida. I know from the Census here in Florida, that a number of the children were born in Georgia...but don't know the counties yet. Then, I DO know that my ggg-grandfather George Washington DRIVER was born in Screven County in 1820, according to his military papers. Haven't found much on Screven Co. His son, my gg-grandfather was born in Ware County around 1850, don't have any idea where they were in-between these years [1820-1850]. My 4th great-grandfather, Jacob DRIVER, the father of George above, was born in SC, I believe it is my Jacob DRIVER listed on the 1850 Mortality Schedule for Gwinnett County, but from what I've seen most of the data for Gwinnett is owned by the Historical Society. So therefore, either out of price range, or out of print. Sorry, I am thankful for the work of historical society groups, but sure does hamper getting data to everyone. Sharon (DRIVER) Wright Lets do some genealogy! Anyone have any leads on Houston County that I can track down? Gaila Houston County, Georgia

    04/23/2003 03:47:13
    1. [GAGEN] The view from the outside
    2. Joy Fisher
    3. OK, I have been here for 13 days, and I'll probably get myself unsubbed, but I have bit my tongue long enough. I have belonged to many, many state lists over the years and I will have to say I have never seen so much hateful, disrespectful mail as I have seen on this list. Would you write the things I have seen on this list if you were writing to your grandmother? I am seeing a leadership in GA, that seems to be in denial. You can talk percentages all you want. The fact is that over 50% of the membership did take the time to vote and more than half of them want a change. USGenWeb has never had a better turnout for an election. Unless the leadership can make some changes and reach out to the 35 who want a change, you will have a continuing problem. The next time these 35 vote, it may be with their feet. Lastly, the Archives is not your enemy. The Archives is a library without reference librarians. The only folks there are unpaid shelvers putting stuff on the shelves for all to use. You are free to use the materials (by linking), but if you want to use the materials on your web sites, all you need to do is ask the person who submitted the material for permission. I would not dream of using your materials without your permission. Like it or not, the Archives has the only national search engines. When someone left home and "went west" after the Civil War, you have the option of looking in several thousand individual counties or using a national search engine. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com

    04/23/2003 01:57:19
    1. [GAGEN] The Vote - explained
    2. Joy Fisher
    3. GaGenWeb Members - These are the final numbers as reported to the EC by Larry Stephens: 74 votes were received. 3 were disallowed because their password wasn't even close to right. That leaves a net of 71. Of the 71, 7 were AB votes, which leaves 64 votes from CCs. Of the CC group: 35 voted yes. 27 voted no. 2 voted present. --- 64 However, one of the "present" says their email was compromised and they did not intend to cast any vote. If you choose to disregard that vote then it becomes 73, 63, and 1 present. I apologize for initially reporting a total of 73 votes, due to a last minute miscalculation on my part. There were 74. However, that error did not alter the results in any way. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com

    04/23/2003 01:38:10
    1. Re: [GAGEN] Re: the numbers, was Results - GAGenWeb SC Recall Election
    2. mannannan
    3. Jacki, By my count, there were 35 "yes" votes, plus 27 "no" votes and two "present" votes. Three were disqualified. That amounts to 67 votes, plus the one who was compromised (that was my vote, BTW). I show that as being a total of 68 voters, not the 73 that were claimed. However, the EC shows a total of 64 votes, thus I must assume that the three disqualified and the compromised vote were removed from the figures prior to tabulation. There were only 128 submitted names as Tim was not allowed a vote in the matter. 128 minus 68 leaves 60, and the same number minus 64 leaves 64. Exactly one half of the eligible voters actually voted. As such, between 1 and 83 voters either wanted Tim to remain or did not care (or possibly wanted to send a message to the AB that we do not want their interference). Although I yesterday stated that it would be pointless and an exercise in futility to determine what the vote total would have been, and I continue to stand by that comment, if 38 of those who did not vote had chosen to vote against removal, the motion would have been lost. On the other hand, if half of them voted in favor, it would not have been enough as I believe that 66 votes were required for removal. I would prefer to work on my sites and work on the Guideline Revision Committee as opposed to re-hashing this. However, I understand how important the CC's are to the success of the Project (I am a CC, too, you know). As such, I am more than willing to discuss what YOU want to discuss. Your thoughts, opinions, feelings, beliefs, rants, raves, gripes, concerns or whatever are important to me. If you don't believe me, ask Derek Nichols or any of the other CC's in my area. If you don't believe me, then look at the Guidelines Revision Committee or ask any member of the committee. And, while I stood with Tim (and continue to stand with Tim and consider him to be a friend), look at the people I picked. Not a single one of them can be considered to be "yes" people. I picked people with strong opinions who were not afraid to voice their opinion. I chose veterans. I chose rookies. I chose one RC. I chose an AB member. I chose a diverse group. We are going to have fun, but we are going to be pulling our hair out, too. I will be sending a report on our activities weekly, and Jacki (our secretary) will be posting information on a web site. On a different subject, I have heard more than one person complain about being told to be seen and not heard or to sit down and shut up. No one has the right to tell you to do that. If they do, you come to ME. I will deal with that situation on the spot. We are all adults here, and we are all trying to do something nice for our fellow men. We deserve to be treated with respect and we deserve to be treated professionally. Now, I would like to get back to the business at hand. Can we all agree to do just that? Richard ---------- Original Message ----------- From: Jacki Jonas <jackij@chesapeake.net> To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 22:05:48 -0400 Subject: [GAGEN] Re: the numbers, was Results - GAGenWeb SC Recall Election > RE: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/GAGEN/2003-04/1050997573 > > It is possible that Debra made a typo. I'm going to assume that you > did with your figures since 35 + 94 = 129, BUT there were only 128 ballots > issued, with only 124 actually reaching voters. > > I would like additional clarification on the numbers provided by the > EC. There were 73 ballots submitted, 1 rescinded, and 3 disallowed > due to invalid passwords. But the ballot total is 64. Clearly a > quorum wasn't reached, but it's unclear how they got from 73 ballots > submitted to the vote total of 64. > > Respectfully submitted, > > Jacki > > Colquitt County GenWeb Coordinator > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/ > Administrator, > RootsWeb Message Board for Colquitt County GA > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Regional Coordinators are there to help County Coordinators. Don't > hesitate to contact them should you have any, any question. To find > info on your region visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/regional.html ------- End of Original Message -------

    04/22/2003 06:08:16
    1. [GAGEN] Re: the numbers, was Results - GAGenWeb SC Recall Election
    2. Jacki Jonas
    3. RE: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/GAGEN/2003-04/1050997573 It is possible that Debra made a typo. I'm going to assume that you did with your figures since 35 + 94 = 129, BUT there were only 128 ballots issued, with only 124 actually reaching voters. I would like additional clarification on the numbers provided by the EC. There were 73 ballots submitted, 1 rescinded, and 3 disallowed due to invalid passwords. But the ballot total is 64. Clearly a quorum wasn't reached, but it's unclear how they got from 73 ballots submitted to the vote total of 64. Respectfully submitted, Jacki Colquitt County GenWeb Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/ Administrator, RootsWeb Message Board for Colquitt County GA

    04/22/2003 04:05:48
    1. Re: [GAGEN] US Civil War Navies
    2. mannannan
    3. Confederate prisoners who joined the Union Navy? They wuz scoundrels and yeller-dawg traitors. Thank God for them! Richard ---------- Original Message ----------- From: "Dawn Watson" <booleygirl@hotmail.com> To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:33:22 -0500 Subject: [GAGEN] US Civil War Navies > Someone sent this link to another list, but I thought y'all would be > interested in it: > > US Civil War Navies > http://home.ozconnect.net/tfoen/ > > Scroll down the page a little and check out the first link in the > table to the left, Galvanized Tars: Confederate Prisoners of War who > Enlisted in the Union Navy. This link lists several sailors from GA, > and includes a brief biographical sketch. > > Sincerely, > Dawn Watson > CC/Rabun Co., GA > > _________________________________________________________________ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Genealogy research usually begins with our great-grandparents to preserve > the privacy of 'living persons'. If you encounter a person searching > their birth parents, the need to go to the area on the web that deals > with just this type of research. Please refer them to: > http://www.adoption.org ------- End of Original Message -------

    04/22/2003 09:53:58
    1. Re: [GAGEN] US Civil War Navies
    2. Gloria Holback
    3. Richar, no he was in the Confederate Navy.<smile> he wouldn't have been able to go home after the war if he had changed sides...they would have tarred and feathered him and have ran him out of the state...This site has the Confederate Navy records too....it is really a wonderful site...lots of information about both North and the South...and again, Dawn, thank you...really liked the site...Gloria mannannan <mannannan@maclyr.com> wrote:Confederate prisoners who joined the Union Navy? They wuz scoundrels and yeller-dawg traitors. Thank God for them! Richard ---------- Original Message ----------- From: "Dawn Watson" To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:33:22 -0500 Subject: [GAGEN] US Civil War Navies > Someone sent this link to another list, but I thought y'all would be > interested in it: > > US Civil War Navies > http://home.ozconnect.net/tfoen/ > > Scroll down the page a little and check out the first link in the > table to the left, Galvanized Tars: Confederate Prisoners of War who > Enlisted in the Union Navy. This link lists several sailors from GA, > and includes a brief biographical sketch. > > Sincerely, > Dawn Watson > CC/Rabun Co., GA > > _________________________________________________________________ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Genealogy research usually begins with our great-grandparents to preserve > the privacy of 'living persons'. If you encounter a person searching > their birth parents, the need to go to the area on the web that deals > with just this type of research. Please refer them to: > http://www.adoption.org ------- End of Original Message ------- ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== Genealogy research usually begins with our great-grandparents to preserve the privacy of 'living persons'. If you encounter a person searching their birth parents, the need to go to the area on the web that deals with just this type of research. Please refer them to: http://www.adoption.org --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

    04/22/2003 08:10:02
    1. Re: [GAGEN] US Civil War Navies
    2. John Holback
    3. Thanks again, went there and found my gg grandfather....very happy to know about this page...Gloria ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawn Watson" <booleygirl@hotmail.com> To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 12:33 PM Subject: [GAGEN] US Civil War Navies > Someone sent this link to another list, but I thought y'all would be > interested in it: > > US Civil War Navies > http://home.ozconnect.net/tfoen/ > > Scroll down the page a little and check out the first link in the table to > the left, Galvanized Tars: Confederate Prisoners of War who Enlisted in the > Union Navy. This link lists several sailors from GA, and includes a brief > biographical sketch. > > Sincerely, > Dawn Watson > CC/Rabun Co., GA > > _________________________________________________________________ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Genealogy research usually begins with our great-grandparents to preserve > the privacy of 'living persons'. If you encounter a person searching > their birth parents, the need to go to the area on the web that deals > with just this type of research. Please refer them to: > http://www.adoption.org > >

    04/22/2003 07:05:24
    1. [GAGEN] US Civil War Navies
    2. Dawn Watson
    3. Someone sent this link to another list, but I thought y'all would be interested in it: US Civil War Navies http://home.ozconnect.net/tfoen/ Scroll down the page a little and check out the first link in the table to the left, Galvanized Tars: Confederate Prisoners of War who Enlisted in the Union Navy. This link lists several sailors from GA, and includes a brief biographical sketch. Sincerely, Dawn Watson CC/Rabun Co., GA _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

    04/22/2003 05:33:22
    1. Re: [GAGEN] US Civil War Navies
    2. Gloria Holback
    3. Thanks Dawn I will be sure to go there..thanks for sharing the information. GDH Dawn Watson <booleygirl@hotmail.com> wrote:Someone sent this link to another list, but I thought y'all would be interested in it: US Civil War Navies http://home.ozconnect.net/tfoen/ Scroll down the page a little and check out the first link in the table to the left, Galvanized Tars: Confederate Prisoners of War who Enlisted in the Union Navy. This link lists several sailors from GA, and includes a brief biographical sketch. Sincerely, Dawn Watson CC/Rabun Co., GA _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== Genealogy research usually begins with our great-grandparents to preserve the privacy of 'living persons'. If you encounter a person searching their birth parents, the need to go to the area on the web that deals with just this type of research. Please refer them to: http://www.adoption.org --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

    04/22/2003 03:43:29
    1. [GAGEN] Recap of Ballot Count
    2. http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/BOARD/2003-04/1050962558 128 passwords issued to Georgia Voter List 124 actually reached voters 73 ballots received 3 votes disallowed because of incorrect passwords     Balance 70 Yes: 35 No: 27 Present: 2 Total: 64 11 passwords were sent to AB members 7 AB members voted

    04/22/2003 03:40:40
    1. Re: [GAGEN] application
    2. Michele Lewis
    3. Margie, I was advised by someone that I was following the proper proceedure. I was told that I needed to make a public declaration. michele ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margie" <margie@majorinternet.net> To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 12:02 AM Subject: RE: [GAGEN] application > The only person that can answer that question is Tim. > > I respectfully request that these kinds of questions be made of the SC and > not the whole list since we cannot answer this question. Please direct your > questions to the person that can give you the answer and not to the list. > > Please, > > Margie > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sylvia Caldwell Rankin [mailto:sylvia@pickenscountyga.com] > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 9:24 AM > To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GAGEN] application > > > A few days ago (April 17th), Michelle Lewis (CC of McDuffie), requested > consideration for an appointment to the position of RC of the East Central > Region. Did I miss something here? I am just wondering if there was a > response to her request and/or if she is (already) the new RC of East > Central Region. > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Have you added something signifigant to your website? Advertise it on this > list! > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release Date: 4/18/2003 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release Date: 4/18/2003 > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Do you have a suggestion to include in our taglines? If so, please write > GAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > >

    04/22/2003 01:53:08
    1. Re: [GAGEN] application
    2. Michael Saffold
    3. I'd like to know that, too. Vivian Price Saffold Meriwether County At 01:28 AM 4/22/2003 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 4/22/03 12:27:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >margie@majorinternet.net writes: > > The only person that can answer that question is Tim. > >Tim, >Would you please share the names of the GaGenWeb Council with those of the >CCs who do not know, including me, or post the link to the names? >Thank you so much. >Donna > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >This list is for volunteers of the GAGenWeb Project. If you wish to >address only the GAGenWeb Board, send your email to: > <GAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> 3570 Hildon Circle Chamblee, GA 30341

    04/22/2003 12:18:16
    1. RE: [GAGEN] application
    2. Michael Saffold
    3. I would like to know the answer, too. I would like to see the answer posted to the list. Vivian Price Saffold Meriwether County At 11:02 PM 4/21/2003 -0500, you wrote: >The only person that can answer that question is Tim. > >I respectfully request that these kinds of questions be made of the SC and >not the whole list since we cannot answer this question. Please direct your >questions to the person that can give you the answer and not to the list. > >Please, > >Margie > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sylvia Caldwell Rankin [mailto:sylvia@pickenscountyga.com] >Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 9:24 AM >To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [GAGEN] application > > >A few days ago (April 17th), Michelle Lewis (CC of McDuffie), requested >consideration for an appointment to the position of RC of the East Central >Region. Did I miss something here? I am just wondering if there was a >response to her request and/or if she is (already) the new RC of East >Central Region. > > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >Have you added something signifigant to your website? Advertise it on this >list! > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release Date: 4/18/2003 > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release Date: 4/18/2003 > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >Do you have a suggestion to include in our taglines? If so, please write >GAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com 3570 Hildon Circle Chamblee, GA 30341

    04/22/2003 12:10:32
    1. Re: [GAGEN] Re: [BOARD-L] Fwd: [EC] Results - GAGenWeb SC Recall Election
    2. Tim Stowell
    3. At 11:20 PM 4/21/03 +0100, you wrote: >Wow 35 voted yes, 25 voted no, 2 voted present.. Though that did not reach the "quorum: and we (petitioners) did not >win, I certainly say that it dang sure speaks volumes to me. Especially when you consider that in any election including >the presidential election, 50% won't even bother to vote. Says to me that the majority thinks we need help with the leadership. > > >Debra Crosby As President Reagan was fond of saying - there you go again - Please get the numbers right - 35 - 27 - 2 not 25. I guess you are on a different volume. It says that 27% (35) - the minority favor an election at this time - contrary to our Guidelines and what the other members voted on by a majority as to be the Guidelines for Georgia. It says the majority - 73% (94) - do not favor a forced election in contrast to the Guidelines or don't want to be bothered by this foolishness but would much rather be left alone to do their web sites and the MAIN purpose we are supposed to be here for - not page police to other folks page but working diligently on our own sites. Data on county sites - as the National Bylaws require - not a bunch of links. I'm going to work on my sites - will you do the same? Tim >----- Original Message ----- > From: Richard (Isaiah) Harrison > To: BOARD-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:02 PM > Subject: [BOARD-L] Fwd: [EC] Results - GAGenWeb SC Recall Election > > > The project thanks Ellen Pack and the members of the Elections Committee > and to Larry Stephens for all their efforts to conduct this election in a > fair and impartial manner. > > -Isaiah > > >TO: National Coordinator and Advisory Board, USGenWeb > >FROM: USGenWeb Elections Committee > >SUBJECT: Results - GAGenWeb SC Recall Election > >DATE: 21 April 2003 > > > >The USGenWeb Election Committee has certified the results of the GAGenWeb > >SC Recall Election, as follows: > > > >GAGenWeb CC portion of election - > > > >Ballots received: > > > > Yes: 35 > > No: 27 > > Present: 2 > > > > Total: 64 > > > >A quorum was not reached. > > > >Breakdown: > > > >The voter list that Tim Stowell sent, and which the EC was instructed to > >use, had 128 names on it. Passwords were sent to those 128. > > > >Of those 128, 10 addresses bounced. Checking the local web sites of those > >individuals resulted in resolving 3 of the 10. With the help of Jimmy > >Epperson, SEMA CC Rep, we were able to resolve 3 more of the 10. > > > >Of the 4 remaining, 3 have resigned (either the web site is up for > >adoption, or there are messages in GAGEN stating that fact). > > > >There is 1 MIA CC who is still listed on the web site, but for which we do > >not have a valid e-mail addy. All attempts (Google searches, posting to > >the county mailing list, discrete inquiries) failed to turn up another addy. > > > >The result is that a total of 124 passwords actually reached voters. > >Larry Stephens reports there were a total of 73 ballots received. > > > >According to Larry: > > > >"However, one Present voter has requested their vote be rescinded. They > >sent me an email stating they had no intention of submitting a ballot and > >their email account had been compromised. When I asked how, the > >explanation given was believable. If that is accepted by whomever, that > >will reduce the figures above accordingly. > > > >"3 votes disallowed because of incorrect passwords. Despite clear > >instructions a handful of people did not cut-and-paste their passwords. 2 > >or 3 others were technically incorrect but I accepted them (e.g., someone > >substituting the letter O for the digit zero)." > > > >Advisory Board portion of election: > > > >A total of 11 passwords were sent to AB members. Ten passwords were > >originally sent, due to an error by the EC Chair. When it was learned on > >Friday, April 18, 2003 that AB member Vicki Shaffer > >had been inadvertently omitted from the list, a password was sent to her > >that day. > > > > From Larry Stephens: > > > >Seven AB members voted: > > > >"Tina Vickery, Jimmy Epperson, and Vicki Shafer voted Yes. > >Jan Cortez, Bill Oliver, Karen Mitchell and Phyllis Rippee voted No." > > > >Thus concludes the GAGenWeb Recall Election. The EC would like to extend > >sincere thanks to everyone who participated, and especially to Larry Stephens. > > > > > >Respectfully Submitted, > > > >Ellen Pack > >Chair, USGenWeb Election Committee

    04/21/2003 09:57:31
    1. Re: [GAGEN] Who has legal rights over the USGenWeb Archives Project Now?
    2. Tim Stowell
    3. At 12:41 PM 4/21/03 -0400, you wrote: >What I would like to know is what is the status of the trademark for >USGenWeb Archives Project. Who has the right to rent, sell, trade the use >of the project? Did Linda ever transfer the trademark to the USGenWeb >Project? Whose name is on the most recent trademark for the USGenWeb >Project? Guess I should have paid more attention back when it was taking >place but since I did not use the Archives as a place to store material for >the counties which I host I guess I was not interested which is a shame for >anything that affects the USGenWeb and the GAGenWeb Projects should be of >interest to anyone who cares about the projects and wants to see them >continue as non profit organizations and never to be sold, traded, rented, >leased or such by any parties. So could someone provide a definite answer >to those questions and back it up with where we can find the documents which >would proves whose name is on the trademark now? Gloria Provided by an interested observer: Thank you for your request. Here are the latest results from the TARR web server. This page was generated by the TARR system on 2003-04-21 14:00:11 ET Serial Number: 78006402 Registration Number: (NOT AVAILABLE) Mark (words only): USGENWEB ARCHIVES Current Status: Abandoned: No Statement of Use filed after Notice of Allowance was issued. Date of Status: 2002-06-26 Filing Date: 2000-05-01 Registration Date: (DATE NOT AVAILABLE) Law Office Assigned: TMO Law Office 112 If you are the applicant or applicant's attorney and have questions about this file, please contact the Trademark Assistance Center at TrademarkAssistanceCenter@uspto.gov Current Location: 900 -Warehouse (Newington) Date In Location: 2002-12-17 _________________________________________________________________ CURRENT APPLICANT(S)/OWNER(S) _________________________________________________________________ 1. Lewis, Linda R. Address: Lewis, Linda R. 531 Queensway Rd. Richmond, VA 23236 United States Country of Citizenship: United States Legal Entity Type: Individual _________________________________________________________________ GOODS AND/OR SERVICES _________________________________________________________________ PROVIDING A WEBSITE FEATURING INFORMATION IN THE FIELD OF GENEALOGY VIA THE INTERNET International Class: 042 First Use Date: (DATE NOT AVAILABLE) First Use in Commerce Date: (DATE NOT AVAILABLE) Basis: 1(b) _________________________________________________________________ ADDITIONAL INFORMATION _________________________________________________________________ Disclaimer: "ARCHIVES" _________________________________________________________________ PROSECUTION HISTORY _________________________________________________________________ 2002-11-06 - TEAS Statement of Use Received 2002-11-02 - Abandonment - No use statement filed 2001-12-25 - Notice of allowance - mailed 2001-10-02 - Published for opposition 2001-09-12 - Notice of publication 2001-08-05 - Communication received from applicant 2001-08-05 - Approved for Pub - Principal Register (Initial exam) 2001-06-11 - Non-final action mailed 2001-06-09 - Previous allowance count withdrawn 2001-04-07 - Approved for Pub - Principal Register (Initial exam) 2001-02-27 - Communication received from applicant 2000-08-07 - Unresponsive paper received 2000-09-15 - Non-final action mailed 2000-09-08 - Case file assigned to examining attorney 2000-07-31 - Applicant amendment prior to exam entered _________________________________________________________________ CONTACT INFORMATION _________________________________________________________________ Correspondent (Owner) LINDA R. LEWIS 531 QUEENSWAY RD. RICHMOND VA 23236 United States

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