In a message dated 4/24/2003 10:04:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ltlbit@mindspring.com writes: << LOL ... that's the humor from the humor corner tonight. >> GaGenWeb is pretty laughable right now. Thank you for pointing that out Brenda :)

In trying to further research a Masonic Lodge that disappeared out of Fayette County (moved to Coweta), I discovered in my own "library" a book that I did not even realize I had. It is titled "Masonic Biography and Dictionary" compiled by Augustus Row, K.T. and printed in 1868 by J. B. Lippincott & Co. of Philadelphia. It is mainly a dictionary and biography of well know freemasons but it includes the following lists - All Lodges in the United States (as of 1868), all Grand Chapters (as of 1868) and all Subordinate Encampments (1868). Some of the interesting information found in the dictionary/biography sections are histories of when the first freemasons were in certain areas or states, etc... If any of you would like for me to send all information from this source that is pertinent to your county (counties), please email me.....and be patient waiting for a reply. I will get to them all, it just may take awhile. {And yes, I know, I could just transcribe the whole book as it is 135 years old, but.....it is also 365 pages....so I doubt that is going to happen for a while!!!} Linda Blum-Barton

>Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 06:24:01 -0600 >From: "Derek Nichols" <breeze@nbnet.nb.ca> >To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Re: the numbers, was Results - GAGenWeb SC Recall Election > >> By my count, there were 35 "yes" votes, plus 27 "no" votes and two >> "present" votes. Three were disqualified. That amounts to 67 votes, >> plus the one who was compromised (that was my vote, BTW). I show that >> as being a total of 68 voters, not the 73 that were claimed. However, >> the EC shows a total of 64 votes, thus I must assume that the three >> disqualified and the compromised vote were removed from the figures >> prior to tabulation. But in the end 73 is not 64, or even 68. Somewhere along the lines a few ballots are missed in being reported, or there has been some data given in error. Although it will not change the vote, for the integrity of any election or vote, all ballots must be accounted for. Can we please find out where the problem is in the totals. Derek Nichols Echols County, GA

Kemis, I am with you - some of these people would beat a dead animal. Seems like by now it should be dead. Unfortunately this is the list you must be subscribed to. It used to be peaceful most of the time now it is just rehash after rehash of who said what and no one ever deletes the trail of messages that is 40 or 50 emails long. Bill

hmmmmm... never said she wasn't.... jimmy Margie wrote: > For those of you that do not know. > > TERI HOPPER is my sister. > > She lives near Nashville Tennessee. > > She was emailing a response to me and sent it to the wrong place. > > She was having problems with her email and had just changed it over. > > Want to contact her let me know and I will be glad to share her phone > number. > > Margie > > -----Original Message----- > From: jimmy [mailto:eppy@ticnet.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 6:32 PM > To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Re: [BOARD-L] Fwd: [EC] Results - GAGenWeb SC > Recall Election > > Well... this does make one go HMMMMM anyway...... > > jimmy > > Teri Hopper wrote: > > > What was not mentioned here was those that chose to boycott this farce > <HMMMMM> > > > > Margie > > -- > > > > On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 23:20:16 > > Debra Crosby wrote: > > >Wow 35 voted yes, 25 voted no, 2 voted present.. Though that did not > reach the "quorum: and we (petitioners) did not > > >win, I certainly say that it dang sure speaks volumes to me. Especially > when you consider that in any election including > > >the presidential election, 50% won't even bother to vote. Says to me that > the majority thinks we need help with the leadership. > > > > > > > > >Debra Crosby > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Richard (Isaiah) Harrison > > > To: BOARD-L@rootsweb.com > > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:02 PM > > > Subject: [BOARD-L] Fwd: [EC] Results - GAGenWeb SC Recall Election > > > > > > > > > The project thanks Ellen Pack and the members of the Elections > Committee > > > and to Larry Stephens for all their efforts to conduct this election in > a > > > fair and impartial manner. > > > > > > -Isaiah > > > > > > >TO: National Coordinator and Advisory Board, USGenWeb > > > >FROM: USGenWeb Elections Committee > > > >SUBJECT: Results - GAGenWeb SC Recall Election > > > >DATE: 21 April 2003 > > > > > > > >The USGenWeb Election Committee has certified the results of the > GAGenWeb > > > >SC Recall Election, as follows: > > > > > > > >GAGenWeb CC portion of election - > > > > > > > >Ballots received: > > > > > > > > Yes: 35 > > > > No: 27 > > > > Present: 2 > > > > > > > > Total: 64 > > > > > > > >A quorum was not reached. > > > > > > > >Breakdown: > > > > > > > >The voter list that Tim Stowell sent, and which the EC was instructed > to > > > >use, had 128 names on it. Passwords were sent to those 128. > > > > > > > >Of those 128, 10 addresses bounced. Checking the local web sites of > those > > > >individuals resulted in resolving 3 of the 10. With the help of Jimmy > > > >Epperson, SEMA CC Rep, we were able to resolve 3 more of the 10. > > > > > > > >Of the 4 remaining, 3 have resigned (either the web site is up for > > > >adoption, or there are messages in GAGEN stating that fact). > > > > > > > >There is 1 MIA CC who is still listed on the web site, but for which > we do > > > >not have a valid e-mail addy. All attempts (Google searches, posting > to > > > >the county mailing list, discrete inquiries) failed to turn up another > addy. > > > > > > > >The result is that a total of 124 passwords actually reached voters. > > > >Larry Stephens reports there were a total of 73 ballots received. > > > > > > > >According to Larry: > > > > > > > >"However, one Present voter has requested their vote be rescinded. > They > > > >sent me an email stating they had no intention of submitting a ballot > and > > > >their email account had been compromised. When I asked how, the > > > >explanation given was believable. If that is accepted by whomever, > that > > > >will reduce the figures above accordingly. > > > > > > > >"3 votes disallowed because of incorrect passwords. Despite clear > > > >instructions a handful of people did not cut-and-paste their > passwords. 2 > > > >or 3 others were technically incorrect but I accepted them (e.g., > someone > > > >substituting the letter O for the digit zero)." > > > > > > > >Advisory Board portion of election: > > > > > > > >A total of 11 passwords were sent to AB members. Ten passwords were > > > >originally sent, due to an error by the EC Chair. When it was learned > on > > > >Friday, April 18, 2003 that AB member Vicki Shaffer > > > >had been inadvertently omitted from the list, a password was sent to > her > > > >that day. > > > > > > > > From Larry Stephens: > > > > > > > >Seven AB members voted: > > > > > > > >"Tina Vickery, Jimmy Epperson, and Vicki Shafer voted Yes. > > > >Jan Cortez, Bill Oliver, Karen Mitchell and Phyllis Rippee voted No." > > > > > > > >Thus concludes the GAGenWeb Recall Election. The EC would like to > extend > > > >sincere thanks to everyone who participated, and especially to Larry > Stephens. > > > > > > > > > > > >Respectfully Submitted, > > > > > > > >Ellen Pack > > > >Chair, USGenWeb Election Committee > > > > > > > > > ==== BOARD Mailing List ==== > > > "No man is good enough to govern another man without that other's > consent." > > > Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > > >Have you added something signifigant to your website? 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For those of you that do not know. TERI HOPPER is my sister. She lives near Nashville Tennessee. She was emailing a response to me and sent it to the wrong place. She was having problems with her email and had just changed it over. Want to contact her let me know and I will be glad to share her phone number. Margie -----Original Message----- From: jimmy [mailto:eppy@ticnet.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 6:32 PM To: GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Re: [BOARD-L] Fwd: [EC] Results - GAGenWeb SC Recall Election Well... this does make one go HMMMMM anyway...... jimmy Teri Hopper wrote: > What was not mentioned here was those that chose to boycott this farce <HMMMMM> > > Margie > -- > > On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 23:20:16 > Debra Crosby wrote: > >Wow 35 voted yes, 25 voted no, 2 voted present.. Though that did not reach the "quorum: and we (petitioners) did not > >win, I certainly say that it dang sure speaks volumes to me. Especially when you consider that in any election including > >the presidential election, 50% won't even bother to vote. Says to me that the majority thinks we need help with the leadership. > > > > > >Debra Crosby > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > From: Richard (Isaiah) Harrison > > To: BOARD-L@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:02 PM > > Subject: [BOARD-L] Fwd: [EC] Results - GAGenWeb SC Recall Election > > > > > > The project thanks Ellen Pack and the members of the Elections Committee > > and to Larry Stephens for all their efforts to conduct this election in a > > fair and impartial manner. > > > > -Isaiah > > > > >TO: National Coordinator and Advisory Board, USGenWeb > > >FROM: USGenWeb Elections Committee > > >SUBJECT: Results - GAGenWeb SC Recall Election > > >DATE: 21 April 2003 > > > > > >The USGenWeb Election Committee has certified the results of the GAGenWeb > > >SC Recall Election, as follows: > > > > > >GAGenWeb CC portion of election - > > > > > >Ballots received: > > > > > > Yes: 35 > > > No: 27 > > > Present: 2 > > > > > > Total: 64 > > > > > >A quorum was not reached. > > > > > >Breakdown: > > > > > >The voter list that Tim Stowell sent, and which the EC was instructed to > > >use, had 128 names on it. Passwords were sent to those 128. > > > > > >Of those 128, 10 addresses bounced. Checking the local web sites of those > > >individuals resulted in resolving 3 of the 10. With the help of Jimmy > > >Epperson, SEMA CC Rep, we were able to resolve 3 more of the 10. > > > > > >Of the 4 remaining, 3 have resigned (either the web site is up for > > >adoption, or there are messages in GAGEN stating that fact). > > > > > >There is 1 MIA CC who is still listed on the web site, but for which we do > > >not have a valid e-mail addy. All attempts (Google searches, posting to > > >the county mailing list, discrete inquiries) failed to turn up another addy. > > > > > >The result is that a total of 124 passwords actually reached voters. > > >Larry Stephens reports there were a total of 73 ballots received. > > > > > >According to Larry: > > > > > >"However, one Present voter has requested their vote be rescinded. They > > >sent me an email stating they had no intention of submitting a ballot and > > >their email account had been compromised. When I asked how, the > > >explanation given was believable. If that is accepted by whomever, that > > >will reduce the figures above accordingly. > > > > > >"3 votes disallowed because of incorrect passwords. Despite clear > > >instructions a handful of people did not cut-and-paste their passwords. 2 > > >or 3 others were technically incorrect but I accepted them (e.g., someone > > >substituting the letter O for the digit zero)." > > > > > >Advisory Board portion of election: > > > > > >A total of 11 passwords were sent to AB members. Ten passwords were > > >originally sent, due to an error by the EC Chair. When it was learned on > > >Friday, April 18, 2003 that AB member Vicki Shaffer > > >had been inadvertently omitted from the list, a password was sent to her > > >that day. > > > > > > From Larry Stephens: > > > > > >Seven AB members voted: > > > > > >"Tina Vickery, Jimmy Epperson, and Vicki Shafer voted Yes. > > >Jan Cortez, Bill Oliver, Karen Mitchell and Phyllis Rippee voted No." > > > > > >Thus concludes the GAGenWeb Recall Election. The EC would like to extend > > >sincere thanks to everyone who participated, and especially to Larry Stephens. > > > > > > > > >Respectfully Submitted, > > > > > >Ellen Pack > > >Chair, USGenWeb Election Committee > > > > > > ==== BOARD Mailing List ==== > > "No man is good enough to govern another man without that other's consent." > > Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865) > > > > > > > > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > >Have you added something signifigant to your website? 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Thank you, Joy, for the clear accounting of the votes. Jacki

Well... this does make one go HMMMMM anyway...... jimmy Teri Hopper wrote: > What was not mentioned here was those that chose to boycott this farce <HMMMMM> > > Margie > -- > > On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 23:20:16 > Debra Crosby wrote: > >Wow 35 voted yes, 25 voted no, 2 voted present.. Though that did not reach the "quorum: and we (petitioners) did not > >win, I certainly say that it dang sure speaks volumes to me. Especially when you consider that in any election including > >the presidential election, 50% won't even bother to vote. Says to me that the majority thinks we need help with the leadership. > > > > > >Debra Crosby > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > From: Richard (Isaiah) Harrison > > To: BOARD-L@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:02 PM > > Subject: [BOARD-L] Fwd: [EC] Results - GAGenWeb SC Recall Election > > > > > > The project thanks Ellen Pack and the members of the Elections Committee > > and to Larry Stephens for all their efforts to conduct this election in a > > fair and impartial manner. > > > > -Isaiah > > > > >TO: National Coordinator and Advisory Board, USGenWeb > > >FROM: USGenWeb Elections Committee > > >SUBJECT: Results - GAGenWeb SC Recall Election > > >DATE: 21 April 2003 > > > > > >The USGenWeb Election Committee has certified the results of the GAGenWeb > > >SC Recall Election, as follows: > > > > > >GAGenWeb CC portion of election - > > > > > >Ballots received: > > > > > > Yes: 35 > > > No: 27 > > > Present: 2 > > > > > > Total: 64 > > > > > >A quorum was not reached. > > > > > >Breakdown: > > > > > >The voter list that Tim Stowell sent, and which the EC was instructed to > > >use, had 128 names on it. Passwords were sent to those 128. > > > > > >Of those 128, 10 addresses bounced. Checking the local web sites of those > > >individuals resulted in resolving 3 of the 10. With the help of Jimmy > > >Epperson, SEMA CC Rep, we were able to resolve 3 more of the 10. > > > > > >Of the 4 remaining, 3 have resigned (either the web site is up for > > >adoption, or there are messages in GAGEN stating that fact). > > > > > >There is 1 MIA CC who is still listed on the web site, but for which we do > > >not have a valid e-mail addy. All attempts (Google searches, posting to > > >the county mailing list, discrete inquiries) failed to turn up another addy. > > > > > >The result is that a total of 124 passwords actually reached voters. > > >Larry Stephens reports there were a total of 73 ballots received. > > > > > >According to Larry: > > > > > >"However, one Present voter has requested their vote be rescinded. They > > >sent me an email stating they had no intention of submitting a ballot and > > >their email account had been compromised. When I asked how, the > > >explanation given was believable. If that is accepted by whomever, that > > >will reduce the figures above accordingly. > > > > > >"3 votes disallowed because of incorrect passwords. Despite clear > > >instructions a handful of people did not cut-and-paste their passwords. 2 > > >or 3 others were technically incorrect but I accepted them (e.g., someone > > >substituting the letter O for the digit zero)." > > > > > >Advisory Board portion of election: > > > > > >A total of 11 passwords were sent to AB members. Ten passwords were > > >originally sent, due to an error by the EC Chair. When it was learned on > > >Friday, April 18, 2003 that AB member Vicki Shaffer > > >had been inadvertently omitted from the list, a password was sent to her > > >that day. > > > > > > From Larry Stephens: > > > > > >Seven AB members voted: > > > > > >"Tina Vickery, Jimmy Epperson, and Vicki Shafer voted Yes. > > >Jan Cortez, Bill Oliver, Karen Mitchell and Phyllis Rippee voted No." > > > > > >Thus concludes the GAGenWeb Recall Election. The EC would like to extend > > >sincere thanks to everyone who participated, and especially to Larry Stephens. > > > > > > > > >Respectfully Submitted, > > > > > >Ellen Pack > > >Chair, USGenWeb Election Committee > > > > > > ==== BOARD Mailing List ==== > > "No man is good enough to govern another man without that other's consent." > > Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865) > > > > > > > > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > >Have you added something signifigant to your website? Advertise it on this > >list! > > > > > > Need a new email address that people can remember > Check out the new EudoraMail at > http://www.eudoramail.com > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Did your county's courthouse ever meet with a disaster?? > Check out GAGenWeb's List and Research Tips at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/cchelp/courthouses.htm

People, Please let it go or tell me where the real list for GA Gen CC's is? You know the one where we share stuff instead of jumping on every word that anyone who isn't of your opinion writes. I work a full time job, have a part time business and do genealogy to the best of my ability. I will share whatever I have with anyone. I resent that my precious time that I could be doing real work, is spent reading these gripping emails. Will the person in charge, please do their job and put a stop to this? One more question, do I as a CC HAVE to subscribe to this list or is there a real list that have the things I need to know on it? kemis

I want to say I am sorry for sending Margie's message to me to the list. I know that sending private email to the list without permission is not allowed. It was purely accidental and I will try not to let it happen again. Teri Hopper What was not mentioned here was those that chose to boycott this farce <HMMMMM> Margie -- On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 23:20:16 Debra Crosby wrote: >Wow 35 voted yes, 25 voted no, 2 voted present.. Though that did not reach the "quorum: and we (petitioners) did not >win, I certainly say that it dang sure speaks volumes to me. Especially when you consider that in any election including >the presidential election, 50% won't even bother to vote. Says to me that the majority thinks we need help with the leadership. > > >Debra Crosby > > >----- Original Message ----- > From: Richard (Isaiah) Harrison > To: BOARD-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:02 PM > Subject: [BOARD-L] Fwd: [EC] Results - GAGenWeb SC Recall Election > > > The project thanks Ellen Pack and the members of the Elections Committee > and to Larry Stephens for all their efforts to conduct this election in a > fair and impartial manner. > > -Isaiah > > >TO: National Coordinator and Advisory Board, USGenWeb > >FROM: USGenWeb Elections Committee > >SUBJECT: Results - GAGenWeb SC Recall Election > >DATE: 21 April 2003 > > > >The USGenWeb Election Committee has certified the results of the GAGenWeb > >SC Recall Election, as follows: > > > >GAGenWeb CC portion of election - > > > >Ballots received: > > > > Yes: 35 > > No: 27 > > Present: 2 > > > > Total: 64 > > > >A quorum was not reached. > > > >Breakdown: > > > >The voter list that Tim Stowell sent, and which the EC was instructed to > >use, had 128 names on it. Passwords were sent to those 128. > > > >Of those 128, 10 addresses bounced. Checking the local web sites of those > >individuals resulted in resolving 3 of the 10. With the help of Jimmy > >Epperson, SEMA CC Rep, we were able to resolve 3 more of the 10. > > > >Of the 4 remaining, 3 have resigned (either the web site is up for > >adoption, or there are messages in GAGEN stating that fact). > > > >There is 1 MIA CC who is still listed on the web site, but for which we do > >not have a valid e-mail addy. All attempts (Google searches, posting to > >the county mailing list, discrete inquiries) failed to turn up another addy. > > > >The result is that a total of 124 passwords actually reached voters. > >Larry Stephens reports there were a total of 73 ballots received. > > > >According to Larry: > > > >"However, one Present voter has requested their vote be rescinded. They > >sent me an email stating they had no intention of submitting a ballot and > >their email account had been compromised. When I asked how, the > >explanation given was believable. If that is accepted by whomever, that > >will reduce the figures above accordingly. > > > >"3 votes disallowed because of incorrect passwords. Despite clear > >instructions a handful of people did not cut-and-paste their passwords. 2 > >or 3 others were technically incorrect but I accepted them (e.g., someone > >substituting the letter O for the digit zero)." > > > >Advisory Board portion of election: > > > >A total of 11 passwords were sent to AB members. Ten passwords were > >originally sent, due to an error by the EC Chair. When it was learned on > >Friday, April 18, 2003 that AB member Vicki Shaffer > >had been inadvertently omitted from the list, a password was sent to her > >that day. > > > > From Larry Stephens: > > > >Seven AB members voted: > > > >"Tina Vickery, Jimmy Epperson, and Vicki Shafer voted Yes. > >Jan Cortez, Bill Oliver, Karen Mitchell and Phyllis Rippee voted No." > > > >Thus concludes the GAGenWeb Recall Election. The EC would like to extend > >sincere thanks to everyone who participated, and especially to Larry Stephens. > > > > > >Respectfully Submitted, > > > >Ellen Pack > >Chair, USGenWeb Election Committee > > > ==== BOARD Mailing List ==== > "No man is good enough to govern another man without that other's consent." > Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865) > > > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >Have you added something signifigant to your website? Advertise it on this >list! > > Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com

What was not mentioned here was those that chose to boycott this farce <HMMMMM> Margie -- On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 23:20:16 Debra Crosby wrote: >Wow 35 voted yes, 25 voted no, 2 voted present.. Though that did not reach the "quorum: and we (petitioners) did not >win, I certainly say that it dang sure speaks volumes to me. Especially when you consider that in any election including >the presidential election, 50% won't even bother to vote. Says to me that the majority thinks we need help with the leadership. > > >Debra Crosby > > >----- Original Message ----- > From: Richard (Isaiah) Harrison > To: BOARD-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:02 PM > Subject: [BOARD-L] Fwd: [EC] Results - GAGenWeb SC Recall Election > > > The project thanks Ellen Pack and the members of the Elections Committee > and to Larry Stephens for all their efforts to conduct this election in a > fair and impartial manner. > > -Isaiah > > >TO: National Coordinator and Advisory Board, USGenWeb > >FROM: USGenWeb Elections Committee > >SUBJECT: Results - GAGenWeb SC Recall Election > >DATE: 21 April 2003 > > > >The USGenWeb Election Committee has certified the results of the GAGenWeb > >SC Recall Election, as follows: > > > >GAGenWeb CC portion of election - > > > >Ballots received: > > > > Yes: 35 > > No: 27 > > Present: 2 > > > > Total: 64 > > > >A quorum was not reached. > > > >Breakdown: > > > >The voter list that Tim Stowell sent, and which the EC was instructed to > >use, had 128 names on it. Passwords were sent to those 128. > > > >Of those 128, 10 addresses bounced. Checking the local web sites of those > >individuals resulted in resolving 3 of the 10. With the help of Jimmy > >Epperson, SEMA CC Rep, we were able to resolve 3 more of the 10. > > > >Of the 4 remaining, 3 have resigned (either the web site is up for > >adoption, or there are messages in GAGEN stating that fact). > > > >There is 1 MIA CC who is still listed on the web site, but for which we do > >not have a valid e-mail addy. All attempts (Google searches, posting to > >the county mailing list, discrete inquiries) failed to turn up another addy. > > > >The result is that a total of 124 passwords actually reached voters. > >Larry Stephens reports there were a total of 73 ballots received. > > > >According to Larry: > > > >"However, one Present voter has requested their vote be rescinded. They > >sent me an email stating they had no intention of submitting a ballot and > >their email account had been compromised. When I asked how, the > >explanation given was believable. If that is accepted by whomever, that > >will reduce the figures above accordingly. > > > >"3 votes disallowed because of incorrect passwords. Despite clear > >instructions a handful of people did not cut-and-paste their passwords. 2 > >or 3 others were technically incorrect but I accepted them (e.g., someone > >substituting the letter O for the digit zero)." > > > >Advisory Board portion of election: > > > >A total of 11 passwords were sent to AB members. Ten passwords were > >originally sent, due to an error by the EC Chair. When it was learned on > >Friday, April 18, 2003 that AB member Vicki Shaffer > >had been inadvertently omitted from the list, a password was sent to her > >that day. > > > > From Larry Stephens: > > > >Seven AB members voted: > > > >"Tina Vickery, Jimmy Epperson, and Vicki Shafer voted Yes. > >Jan Cortez, Bill Oliver, Karen Mitchell and Phyllis Rippee voted No." > > > >Thus concludes the GAGenWeb Recall Election. The EC would like to extend > >sincere thanks to everyone who participated, and especially to Larry Stephens. > > > > > >Respectfully Submitted, > > > >Ellen Pack > >Chair, USGenWeb Election Committee > > > ==== BOARD Mailing List ==== > "No man is good enough to govern another man without that other's consent." > Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865) > > > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >Have you added something signifigant to your website? Advertise it on this >list! > > Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com

I would love to get back to the business at hand. My delete finger needs rest. Tim, good luck on the next part of the journey... Lets do some genealogy! Anyone have any leads on Houston County that I can track down? Gaila Houston County, Georgia . > > Now, I would like to get back to the business at hand. Can we all agree to > do just that? > > Richard

It's gotten so ridiculous that yes--those of us that sit quietly biting our tongues are now getting annoyed enough to open our mouths... I'm with Joy--and I AM one of those who wants to say "show's over--back to work". And what nerve some of you have to rip apart Joy's comment and drag her down with you...? She is correct: there are some of us out here--no matter how few--that simply want to get on with the business at hand rather than deleting tens of e-mails daily fraught with more negativity among what should be bretheren than you can see on prime-time television. For myself, she hit the nail on the head: I've been here for a few months and am ready to walk. EVERY E-MAIL IS FULL OF NITPICKING ABOUT WHAT "MUST" HAVE BEEN INTENDED--AND IT'S NEVER GOOD. Then we have the responses trying to clarify and correct. ENOUGH ALREADY. Agree to disagree, deal with it directly or move on already. Or, like has been suggested SEVERAL TIMES... take it to GALINA. --Another who is likely to be thrown out, Heather (White Co.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol C-H" <cch@netdoor.com> To: <GAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [GAGEN] The view from the outside > In your opinion, it was a negative comment - in my opinion, it was not. > > This list has seen plenty of negative comments lately - but that was not > one of them, IMHO. > > Carol > > At 01:14 PM 4/23/2003, Gloria Holback wrote: > >Nor did I say: the 35 would use their feet...Joy Fisher made that > >statement ....I stated it was a negative comment....and should not have > >been included in her otherwise insightful message. Gloria > > > > > >--------------------------------- > >Do you Yahoo!? > >The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > > > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > >Genealogy research usually begins with our great-grandparents to preserve > > the privacy of 'living persons'. If you encounter a person searching > >their birth parents, the need to go to the area on the web that deals > >with just this type of research. Please refer them to: > >http://www.adoption.org > > Carol C-H <cch@netdoor.com> http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/ > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Do you have a suggestion to include in our taglines? If so, please write > GAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > >

Joy, thank you for being on this list during the voting. Thank you for your courage and your patience. Carol At 09:57 AM 4/23/2003, Joy Fisher wrote: >OK, I have been here for 13 days, and I'll probably >get myself unsubbed, but I have bit my tongue long >enough. > >I have belonged to many, many state lists over the >years and I will have to say I have never seen so much >hateful, disrespectful mail as I have seen on this >list. Would you write the things I have seen on this >list if you were writing to your grandmother? > >I am seeing a leadership in GA, that seems to be in >denial. You can talk percentages all you want. The >fact is that over 50% of the membership did take the >time to vote and more than half of them want a change. >USGenWeb has never had a better turnout for an >election. Unless the leadership can make some changes >and reach out to the 35 who want a change, you will >have a continuing problem. The next time these 35 >vote, it may be with their feet. > >Lastly, the Archives is not your enemy. The Archives >is a library without reference librarians. The only >folks there are unpaid shelvers putting stuff on the >shelves for all to use. You are free to use the >materials (by linking), but if you want to use the >materials on your web sites, all you need to do is ask >the person who submitted the material for permission. >I would not dream of using your materials without your >permission. Like it or not, the Archives has the only >national search engines. When someone left home and >"went west" after the Civil War, you have the option >of looking in several thousand individual counties or >using a national search engine. > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo >http://search.yahoo.com > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >Did your county's courthouse ever meet with a disaster?? >Check out GAGenWeb's List and Research Tips at: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/cchelp/courthouses.htm Carol C-H <cch@netdoor.com> http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/

In your opinion, it was a negative comment - in my opinion, it was not. This list has seen plenty of negative comments lately - but that was not one of them, IMHO. Carol At 01:14 PM 4/23/2003, Gloria Holback wrote: >Nor did I say: the 35 would use their feet...Joy Fisher made that >statement ....I stated it was a negative comment....and should not have >been included in her otherwise insightful message. Gloria > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? >The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >Genealogy research usually begins with our great-grandparents to preserve > the privacy of 'living persons'. If you encounter a person searching >their birth parents, the need to go to the area on the web that deals >with just this type of research. Please refer them to: >http://www.adoption.org Carol C-H <cch@netdoor.com> http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/

In a message dated 4/23/03 12:48:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gholback_1999@yahoo.com writes: > Not a very nice thing to say, or was it a threat? The next time these 35 > vote, it may be with their feet. I think that is what Richard told us to do http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/GAGEN/2003-04/1050964882 "If you are not able to let go of the past, or if you are of the opinion that the issues were not resolved and are unwilling to let go of them, then perhaps it is time for you to resign from the project."

In a message dated 4/23/03 12:48:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gholback_1999@yahoo.com writes: > Not a very nice thing to say, or was it a threat? The next time these 35 > vote, it may be with their feet.

In a message dated 4/23/03 12:48:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gholback_1999@yahoo.com writes: > Not a very nice thing to say, or was it a threat? The next time these 35 > vote, it may be with their feet. A threat? lol I would hope Joy could come up with something stronger, if it was intended as a warning or threat and not the hint there may be a walk-off. ------------- In a message dated 4/23/03 10:57:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sdgenweb@yahoo.com writes: > I have belonged to many, many state lists over the years and I will have to > say I have never seen so much hateful, disrespectful mail as I have seen on > this list. Joy, You should read some of the off-list emails some of us have received from our fellow CCs. MK Harrison <A HREF="http://mkharrison.com">mkharrison.com</A> <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~gabarrow/">Barrow County, GA</A> <A HREF="http://www.ancestry.com/landing/homelandsweeps2/landing2.html?SourceCode=3913&iid=3913%3A+Sweepstakes+1">Ancestry.com</A> I don't know what kind of weapons will be used in the third world war, assuming there will be a third world war. But I can tell you what the fourth world war will be fought with - stone clubs. -Albert Einstein Copyright © 2003

Thanks for your very insightful comments. Vivian Price Saffold Meriwether County At 07:57 AM 4/23/2003 -0700, you wrote: >OK, I have been here for 13 days, and I'll probably >get myself unsubbed, but I have bit my tongue long >enough. > >I have belonged to many, many state lists over the >years and I will have to say I have never seen so much >hateful, disrespectful mail as I have seen on this >list. Would you write the things I have seen on this >list if you were writing to your grandmother? > >I am seeing a leadership in GA, that seems to be in >denial. You can talk percentages all you want. The >fact is that over 50% of the membership did take the >time to vote and more than half of them want a change. >USGenWeb has never had a better turnout for an >election. Unless the leadership can make some changes >and reach out to the 35 who want a change, you will >have a continuing problem. The next time these 35 >vote, it may be with their feet. > >Lastly, the Archives is not your enemy. The Archives >is a library without reference librarians. The only >folks there are unpaid shelvers putting stuff on the >shelves for all to use. You are free to use the >materials (by linking), but if you want to use the >materials on your web sites, all you need to do is ask >the person who submitted the material for permission. >I would not dream of using your materials without your >permission. Like it or not, the Archives has the only >national search engines. When someone left home and >"went west" after the Civil War, you have the option >of looking in several thousand individual counties or >using a national search engine. > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo >http://search.yahoo.com > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >Did your county's courthouse ever meet with a disaster?? >Check out GAGenWeb's List and Research Tips at: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/cchelp/courthouses.htm 3570 Hildon Circle Chamblee, GA 30341

Carol, Donna, I am quite happy that the ruckus if over with and Tim is the SC and we have the leadership also with Richard Petty's as the Chair person of the Guidelines and CCs Bill of Rights Committees. Furthermore I feel that these are very positive steps forward and therefore do not like to see any negativity appear on the list to start the ball rolling in the opposite direction...Gloria Carol C-H <cch@netdoor.com> wrote:In your opinion, it was a negative comment - in my opinion, it was not. This list has seen plenty of negative comments lately - but that was not one of them, IMHO. Carol At 01:14 PM 4/23/2003, Gloria Holback wrote: >Nor did I say: the 35 would use their feet...Joy Fisher made that >statement ....I stated it was a negative comment....and should not have >been included in her otherwise insightful message. Gloria > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? >The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >Genealogy research usually begins with our great-grandparents to preserve > the privacy of 'living persons'. If you encounter a person searching >their birth parents, the need to go to the area on the web that deals >with just this type of research. Please refer them to: >http://www.adoption.org Carol C-H http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/ ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== Do you have a suggestion to include in our taglines? If so, please write GAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.