I think one list is fine. I do not have a problem with a little chat thrown in with the business list . I think it bring people closer together. Bob Wood, Stewart Co. Two Run wrote: > If you have two lists, it is doubtful that anyone would use the chat list. So its either allow chat or don't, and its up to how the list administrator wants to run the list. Personally, I don't want to see chat, especially on a list that I'm forced to be subscribed to. > > Dan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael and Vivian Saffold > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 6:42 AM > Subject: [GAGEN] chat list and roll call > > Hello, everyone, > > I have had several requests, both privately and expressed to this list, for > a separate mailing list for "chat." > > Many of us endured terrible experiences with a two-list system administered > by the previous project. I know that for the most part we have moved on > from that unfortunate era, but for that reason I have been very hesitant to > establish a second list. > > Personally, I would like to see us have as few project rules and > restrictions as possible. I would much rather people remember that their > fellow volunteers are busy and keep their posts to a minimum. Responses to > posts like baby announcements certainly can be sent to the individual, > rather than to the list. > > However, I certainly will do what the majority wishes. > > If we do agree to have a separate list, I *will not* penalize anyone for > posting "chat" to the business list, and I know no one involved in this > project will be so discourteous as to call another volunteer to task > publicly or privately for his/her post. > > Please let me know how you feel about this issue. Do you favor a separate > list? If so, what should be considered "business?" For example: Obviously > baby announcements could go to the chat list, but what about issues such as > our recent discussion of spyware? > > You may respond to me privately. I will compile the responses and post a > brief summary, along with a decision. > > Please do let me hear from you, even if you have no opinion. **This post > will serve as the First Quarter 2005 roll call.** > > Vivian > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > GAGenWeb By-Laws Committee Information Web Site: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/bylaws/ > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Confused about Copyrights? Review USGenWeb's policy on copyrights at: > http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/copyright.html

Oh Kim, please don't leave because of what a few have to say. Personally, I enjoy hearing about important events in our members families, as I do feel like we are an extended family here. We work together and we care about each other. And I'll bet you that I'm not the only one who feels that way. We've come along way and we are going to keep going and I want you to be a part of what we have built here. Please say you'll stay. We have a new arrival and I'm here waiting to see Savannah grow up and then we'll let her take over a few of our sites. Then we'll retire gracefully. <grins> Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "kim gordon" <[email protected]> >I apologize for making an announcement about my grandbaby to those of you >that just don't care. > > It seems to me that the some of the same people that were stirring the pot > before are stirring it again. It was a tough decision for me to leave the > first time and it's tough for me again. I can't see being part of a group > that's just all business, if we can't share good things then it's just no > good. > > If I am wrong, I am wrong, and I am willing to admit it. I pride myself > on being a good an honest person. I love the county I live in and hate to > give it up. > > Therefore, since I spoke out of turn with the announcement of my > grandbaby, I hereby resign effective immediately. Please unsubscribe me > from this list. I want no part of an organization like this any longer. > It's just not a good place to be. > > Kim Gordon

I apologize for making an announcement about my grandbaby to those of you that just don't care. It seems to me that the some of the same people that were stirring the pot before are stirring it again. It was a tough decision for me to leave the first time and it's tough for me again. I can't see being part of a group that's just all business, if we can't share good things then it's just no good. If I am wrong, I am wrong, and I am willing to admit it. I pride myself on being a good an honest person. I love the county I live in and hate to give it up. Therefore, since I spoke out of turn with the announcement of my grandbaby, I hereby resign effective immediately. Please unsubscribe me from this list. I want no part of an organization like this any longer. It's just not a good place to be. Kim Gordon SC Arizona AHGP CC Clayton County, GA AHGP CC Coconino County, AZ AHGP CC Crawford County, GA AHGP Crawford County Historical Society Crawford County Saving Graves Ed & Kim's Connections ASC Georgia AHGP CC Habersham County, GA AHGP SC Hawaii AHGP Historic Crawford Foundation, Inc. Roberta-Crawford County Chamber of Commerce CC Talbot County, GA AHGP CC Taylor County, GA AHGP

Kim, Ed, Bettie, Bob, and any other members who have recently had good news announcements on the list, Let me clarify the reasons why I really need a change in the way the list works, and I feel others will agree. First, I want to read the announcements. ALL the announcements. It's just that for the sake of sanity (and being able to read all the posts) there has to be a change in how it is performed. (Also, some of the down-thread posts really could be sent privately, but I won't argue over that issue.) Some of us work from our computers during the day and we use email filters to help us sort what needs to be read as priorities dictate. At present I consider official announcements from the SC a priority. But, I do not consider the friendly announcements one. So, I'd really like to be able to filter those emails to another folder for later reading. Which may be 2 or even 3 weeks later. This would make them marked as "unread" and I would know what has been and hasn't been read. My intention, and that of the others who agree, is not to stir any pot or to cause any strife in the project. We simply wish for a change in the way the list works. What is so bad about that? Instead of sending/receiving mail to or from GAGEN-L it goes to another list name. I really don't see the problem when it would help many of us out enormously. If there has been offense taken at these suggestions, I apologize, for that was not my intention at all. So Kim, I ask that you please reconsider and I hope that my clarification of my reasons for agreeing to a change in the lists operation will be enough to suffice your reconsideration. --Keith kim gordon wrote: > I apologize for making an announcement about my grandbaby to those of > you that just don't care. > > It seems to me that the some of the same people that were stirring the > pot before are stirring it again. It was a tough decision for me to > leave the first time and it's tough for me again. I can't see being > part of a group that's just all business, if we can't share good > things then it's just no good. > > If I am wrong, I am wrong, and I am willing to admit it. I pride > myself on being a good an honest person. I love the county I live in > and hate to give it up. > > Therefore, since I spoke out of turn with the announcement of my > grandbaby, I hereby resign effective immediately. Please unsubscribe > me from this list. I want no part of an organization like this any > longer. It's just not a good place to be. > > Kim Gordon > SC Arizona AHGP > CC Clayton County, GA AHGP > CC Coconino County, AZ AHGP > CC Crawford County, GA AHGP > Crawford County Historical Society > Crawford County Saving Graves > Ed & Kim's Connections > ASC Georgia AHGP > CC Habersham County, GA AHGP > SC Hawaii AHGP > Historic Crawford Foundation, Inc. > Roberta-Crawford County Chamber of Commerce > CC Talbot County, GA AHGP > CC Taylor County, GA AHGP > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Confused about Copyrights? Review USGenWeb's policy on copyrights at: > http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/copyright.html > > >

In ILGenWeb, we have the two list thing going on, and it's been a nice thing. Anything that isn't truly related to the 'business at hand' with the project, it goes to the chat list. Works really well there. I think it would here, too. (Comments to Keith's note are below) Lorraine Walker Co. >Maybe I have a solution that will suit almost everyone. >1. GAGEN-L: Used for announcements by the state officers. Election info, new >CC appointments, "CC missing in action" queries, etc. Other items would be html questions, search engines, goodies like that... >2. <unnamed list>: a VOLUNTARILY-subscribed-to list where the rules are >pretty much the way GAGEN-L has been prior to this list's creation. This could be for birth announcements, jokes, items like a genealogy quiz I saw posted to another list... All manner of fun things could be there... >State officers could add a REPLY-TO: field in their announcements, pointing >to the other list, making it easier for the CCs to discuss the topic. This would work, too.... If the administration of this other list gets to be burdensome to Vivian I'm sure someone else can help out. 3-4 persons pop into mind immediately. Any thoughts? -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

Vivian: Instead of a separate chat list, why not have a required announce only list that only the SC and ASC can post to and leave GAGEN the way it is. The SC can decide if items posted by others to GAGEN are of sufficient importance to be forwarded to the announce only list. It would be a slam-dunk then to filter. --- Michael and Vivian Saffold <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello, everyone, > > I have had several requests, both privately and > expressed to this list, for > a separate mailing list for "chat." > > Many of us endured terrible experiences with a > two-list system administered > by the previous project. I know that for the most > part we have moved on > from that unfortunate era, but for that reason I > have been very hesitant to > establish a second list. > > Personally, I would like to see us have as few > project rules and > restrictions as possible. I would much rather people > remember that their > fellow volunteers are busy and keep their posts to a > minimum. Responses to > posts like baby announcements certainly can be sent > to the individual, > rather than to the list. > > However, I certainly will do what the majority > wishes. > > If we do agree to have a separate list, I *will not* > penalize anyone for > posting "chat" to the business list, and I know no > one involved in this > project will be so discourteous as to call another > volunteer to task > publicly or privately for his/her post. > > Please let me know how you feel about this issue. Do > you favor a separate > list? If so, what should be considered "business?" > For example: Obviously > baby announcements could go to the chat list, but > what about issues such as > our recent discussion of spyware? > > You may respond to me privately. I will compile the > responses and post a > brief summary, along with a decision. > > Please do let me hear from you, even if you have no > opinion. **This post > will serve as the First Quarter 2005 roll call.** > > Vivian > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > GAGenWeb By-Laws Committee Information Web Site: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/bylaws/ > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page � Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com

Taking advantage of babyhood already.... so beautiful! ----- Original Message ----- From: "kim gordon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 6:19 PM Subject: [GAGEN] Savannah Elizabeth King : Here she is!!!!! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.13 - Release Date: 1/16/2005

Thanks, Wayne. Vivian At 02:42 PM 1/16/2005 -0600, you wrote: >Good morning! That's a tough question on the "two list!" What I would >like is someway for me to identify the "business" from the "chatting." >I think the chatting side of it is healthy, but I get frustrated when I >see ten to fifteen emails popup congratulating someone on a new baby or >welcoming a new county coordinator ten counties over. My delete key works >well, but unless I read each email I stay fearful that I might be deleting >something I should have read. Possible putting "Business - " as the first >words on the subject line of a business email would suffice. On the other >hand, knowing the email came from you or Nancy Crawford is indication >enough that I need to read the email. > >Thanks for asking! > >Wayne Dorough >Glascock County GAGenWeb > >Michael and Vivian Saffold wrote: > >>Hello, everyone, >> >>I have had several requests, both privately and expressed to this list, >>for a separate mailing list for "chat." >> >>Many of us endured terrible experiences with a two-list system >>administered by the previous project. I know that for the most part we >>have moved on from that unfortunate era, but for that reason I have been >>very hesitant to establish a second list. >> >>Personally, I would like to see us have as few project rules and >>restrictions as possible. I would much rather people remember that their >>fellow volunteers are busy and keep their posts to a minimum. Responses >>to posts like baby announcements certainly can be sent to the individual, >>rather than to the list. >> >>However, I certainly will do what the majority wishes. >> >>If we do agree to have a separate list, I *will not* penalize anyone for >>posting "chat" to the business list, and I know no one involved in this >>project will be so discourteous as to call another volunteer to task >>publicly or privately for his/her post. >> >>Please let me know how you feel about this issue. Do you favor a separate >>list? If so, what should be considered "business?" For example: Obviously >>baby announcements could go to the chat list, but what about issues such >>as our recent discussion of spyware? >> >>You may respond to me privately. I will compile the responses and post a >>brief summary, along with a decision. >> >>Please do let me hear from you, even if you have no opinion. **This post >>will serve as the First Quarter 2005 roll call.** >> >>Vivian >> >> >> >> >> >>==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >>GAGenWeb By-Laws Committee Information Web Site: >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/bylaws/ >> >> > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.13 - Release Date: 1/16/2005 > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >Confused about Copyrights? Review USGenWeb's policy on copyrights at: > http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/copyright.html

I feel if we can watch and change the subject line if it is something of importance we can use the 1 list, so if you see a subject your not interested in delete it and move on. I enjoy the friendly homie<sp> type list as we have with AHGP it seems to work very well. I like to know what all is going on with each of you as I feel we are all friends... well as friendly as we can be with our online environment. Ed

Maybe I have a solution that will suit almost everyone. 1. GAGEN-L: Used for announcements by the state officers. Election info, new CC appointments, "CC missing in action" queries, etc. 2. <unnamed list>: a VOLUNTARILY-subscribed-to list where the rules are pretty much the way GAGEN-L has been prior to this list's creation. State officers could add a REPLY-TO: field in their announcements, pointing to the other list, making it easier for the CCs to discuss the topic. If the administration of this other list gets to be burdensome to Vivian I'm sure someone else can help out. 3-4 persons pop into mind immediately. Any thoughts? Two Run wrote: >If you have two lists, it is doubtful that anyone would use the chat list. So its either allow chat or don't, and its up to how the list administrator wants to run the list. Personally, I don't want to see chat, especially on a list that I'm forced to be subscribed to. > >Dan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael and Vivian Saffold > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 6:42 AM > Subject: [GAGEN] chat list and roll call > > > Hello, everyone, > > I have had several requests, both privately and expressed to this list, for > a separate mailing list for "chat." > > Many of us endured terrible experiences with a two-list system administered > by the previous project. I know that for the most part we have moved on > from that unfortunate era, but for that reason I have been very hesitant to > establish a second list. > > Personally, I would like to see us have as few project rules and > restrictions as possible. I would much rather people remember that their > fellow volunteers are busy and keep their posts to a minimum. Responses to > posts like baby announcements certainly can be sent to the individual, > rather than to the list. > > However, I certainly will do what the majority wishes. > > If we do agree to have a separate list, I *will not* penalize anyone for > posting "chat" to the business list, and I know no one involved in this > project will be so discourteous as to call another volunteer to task > publicly or privately for his/her post. > > Please let me know how you feel about this issue. Do you favor a separate > list? If so, what should be considered "business?" For example: Obviously > baby announcements could go to the chat list, but what about issues such as > our recent discussion of spyware? > > You may respond to me privately. I will compile the responses and post a > brief summary, along with a decision. > > Please do let me hear from you, even if you have no opinion. **This post > will serve as the First Quarter 2005 roll call.** > > Vivian > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > GAGenWeb By-Laws Committee Information Web Site: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/bylaws/ > > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >Confused about Copyrights? Review USGenWeb's policy on copyrights at: > http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/copyright.html > > > > >

If we do go to two lists, I think it should be the list administrator who privately reminds anyone who has posted improperly. That way, we avoid the possibility of a disagreement. I am getting lots of good comments and anticipate that we can work out an good solution. Vivian At 01:20 PM 1/16/2005 -0600, you wrote: >One advantage of two lists is that we can filter the chat list to another >email folder until we have time to read them. This is what I would do. I >have no problem reading the messages, it's just a matter of when. >However, unless the SC is behind a second list fully I doubt it will work. >W/O calling attention (in private) to a CC who posts a non-business >message to the business list, it will eventually become the norm again. So >there would really be no point in attempting it. >As far as how it worked in the past, well, lots of things didn't work in >the past, but that wasn't the CCs' fault. I think we should give ourselves >much more credit than the past would give. > >--Keith > >Kemis Massey wrote: > >>Two list system - been there, done that, didn't work. I will go with >>what the majority wants. I can tell you that this is tax season for me >>and I know how to both scan and delete messages, quickly. >> >>Using "welcome" to a new comer as an example, we would all like to >>welcome the person. It is easier to reply and let the welcome go to the >>whole list, than it is to go to the county list and find the new persons >>address. >> >>Happy Family Hunting, >>kemis massey >>[email protected] >> >>CC for Chattahoochee, Clayton and Muscogee Counties >>List Admin for Chattahoochee, Harris, and Muscogee Counties >>Researching: >> for hubbie: MASSEY, BROOKS, FOUNTAIN, SMITH >> for me: SONGER, CAMP, EVANS, ROSAMOND >> for preservation: CLAPP Cemetery, Community, Factory, and Families - >> Muscogee County >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: Michael and Vivian Saffold Hello, >>everyone, >> >>I have had several requests, both privately and expressed to this list, >>for a separate mailing list for "chat." >> >>Many of us endured terrible experiences with a two-list system >>administered by the previous project. I know that for the most part we >>have moved on from that unfortunate era, but for that reason I have been >>very hesitant to establish a second list. >> >>Personally, I would like to see us have as few project rules and >>restrictions as possible. I would much rather people remember that their >>fellow volunteers are busy and keep their posts to a minimum. Responses >>to posts like baby announcements certainly can be sent to the individual, >>rather than to the list. >> >>However, I certainly will do what the majority wishes. >> >>If we do agree to have a separate list, I *will not* penalize anyone for >>posting "chat" to the business list, and I know no one involved in this >>project will be so discourteous as to call another volunteer to task >>publicly or privately for his/her post. >> >>Please let me know how you feel about this issue. Do you favor a separate >>list? If so, what should be considered "business?" For example: Obviously >>baby announcements could go to the chat list, but what about issues such >>as our recent discussion of spyware? >> >>You may respond to me privately. I will compile the responses and post a >>brief summary, along with a decision. >> >>Please do let me hear from you, even if you have no opinion. **This post >>will serve as the First Quarter 2005 roll call.** >> >>Vivian >> >> >>==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >>GAGenWeb By-Laws Committee Information Web Site: >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/bylaws/ >> >> >> >> > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >Confused about Copyrights? Review USGenWeb's policy on copyrights at: > http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/copyright.html

I answered Vivian privately with my suggestions, but I would like the list to know that I enjoy hearing from the CCs. Being part of a group is what this project is all about. Otherwise, we could each put up our pages and send in our link. If I am busy, I open by subject line. To be honest, I am not too interested in business. This is my hobby and I enjoy friendliness, help and support. This email took more space than my suggestions. Sorry. Donna

Good morning! That's a tough question on the "two list!" What I would like is someway for me to identify the "business" from the "chatting." I think the chatting side of it is healthy, but I get frustrated when I see ten to fifteen emails popup congratulating someone on a new baby or welcoming a new county coordinator ten counties over. My delete key works well, but unless I read each email I stay fearful that I might be deleting something I should have read. Possible putting "Business - " as the first words on the subject line of a business email would suffice. On the other hand, knowing the email came from you or Nancy Crawford is indication enough that I need to read the email. Thanks for asking! Wayne Dorough Glascock County GAGenWeb Michael and Vivian Saffold wrote: > Hello, everyone, > > I have had several requests, both privately and expressed to this > list, for a separate mailing list for "chat." > > Many of us endured terrible experiences with a two-list system > administered by the previous project. I know that for the most part we > have moved on from that unfortunate era, but for that reason I have > been very hesitant to establish a second list. > > Personally, I would like to see us have as few project rules and > restrictions as possible. I would much rather people remember that > their fellow volunteers are busy and keep their posts to a minimum. > Responses to posts like baby announcements certainly can be sent to > the individual, rather than to the list. > > However, I certainly will do what the majority wishes. > > If we do agree to have a separate list, I *will not* penalize anyone > for posting "chat" to the business list, and I know no one involved in > this project will be so discourteous as to call another volunteer to > task publicly or privately for his/her post. > > Please let me know how you feel about this issue. Do you favor a > separate list? If so, what should be considered "business?" For > example: Obviously baby announcements could go to the chat list, but > what about issues such as our recent discussion of spyware? > > You may respond to me privately. I will compile the responses and post > a brief summary, along with a decision. > > Please do let me hear from you, even if you have no opinion. **This > post will serve as the First Quarter 2005 roll call.** > > Vivian > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > GAGenWeb By-Laws Committee Information Web Site: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/bylaws/ > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.13 - Release Date: 1/16/2005

Two list system - been there, done that, didn't work. I will go with what the majority wants. I can tell you that this is tax season for me and I know how to both scan and delete messages, quickly. Using "welcome" to a new comer as an example, we would all like to welcome the person. It is easier to reply and let the welcome go to the whole list, than it is to go to the county list and find the new persons address. Happy Family Hunting, kemis massey [email protected] CC for Chattahoochee, Clayton and Muscogee Counties List Admin for Chattahoochee, Harris, and Muscogee Counties Researching: for hubbie: MASSEY, BROOKS, FOUNTAIN, SMITH for me: SONGER, CAMP, EVANS, ROSAMOND for preservation: CLAPP Cemetery, Community, Factory, and Families - Muscogee County ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael and Vivian Saffold Hello, everyone, I have had several requests, both privately and expressed to this list, for a separate mailing list for "chat." Many of us endured terrible experiences with a two-list system administered by the previous project. I know that for the most part we have moved on from that unfortunate era, but for that reason I have been very hesitant to establish a second list. Personally, I would like to see us have as few project rules and restrictions as possible. I would much rather people remember that their fellow volunteers are busy and keep their posts to a minimum. Responses to posts like baby announcements certainly can be sent to the individual, rather than to the list. However, I certainly will do what the majority wishes. If we do agree to have a separate list, I *will not* penalize anyone for posting "chat" to the business list, and I know no one involved in this project will be so discourteous as to call another volunteer to task publicly or privately for his/her post. Please let me know how you feel about this issue. Do you favor a separate list? If so, what should be considered "business?" For example: Obviously baby announcements could go to the chat list, but what about issues such as our recent discussion of spyware? You may respond to me privately. I will compile the responses and post a brief summary, along with a decision. Please do let me hear from you, even if you have no opinion. **This post will serve as the First Quarter 2005 roll call.** Vivian

One advantage of two lists is that we can filter the chat list to another email folder until we have time to read them. This is what I would do. I have no problem reading the messages, it's just a matter of when. However, unless the SC is behind a second list fully I doubt it will work. W/O calling attention (in private) to a CC who posts a non-business message to the business list, it will eventually become the norm again. So there would really be no point in attempting it. As far as how it worked in the past, well, lots of things didn't work in the past, but that wasn't the CCs' fault. I think we should give ourselves much more credit than the past would give. --Keith Kemis Massey wrote: >Two list system - been there, done that, didn't work. I will go with what the majority wants. I can tell you that this is tax season for me and I know how to both scan and delete messages, quickly. > >Using "welcome" to a new comer as an example, we would all like to welcome the person. It is easier to reply and let the welcome go to the whole list, than it is to go to the county list and find the new persons address. > >Happy Family Hunting, >kemis massey >[email protected] > >CC for Chattahoochee, Clayton and Muscogee Counties >List Admin for Chattahoochee, Harris, and Muscogee Counties >Researching: > for hubbie: MASSEY, BROOKS, FOUNTAIN, SMITH > for me: SONGER, CAMP, EVANS, ROSAMOND > for preservation: CLAPP Cemetery, Community, Factory, and Families - Muscogee County > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Michael and Vivian Saffold >Hello, everyone, > >I have had several requests, both privately and expressed to this list, for >a separate mailing list for "chat." > >Many of us endured terrible experiences with a two-list system administered >by the previous project. I know that for the most part we have moved on >from that unfortunate era, but for that reason I have been very hesitant to >establish a second list. > >Personally, I would like to see us have as few project rules and >restrictions as possible. I would much rather people remember that their >fellow volunteers are busy and keep their posts to a minimum. Responses to >posts like baby announcements certainly can be sent to the individual, >rather than to the list. > >However, I certainly will do what the majority wishes. > >If we do agree to have a separate list, I *will not* penalize anyone for >posting "chat" to the business list, and I know no one involved in this >project will be so discourteous as to call another volunteer to task >publicly or privately for his/her post. > >Please let me know how you feel about this issue. Do you favor a separate >list? If so, what should be considered "business?" For example: Obviously >baby announcements could go to the chat list, but what about issues such as >our recent discussion of spyware? > >You may respond to me privately. I will compile the responses and post a >brief summary, along with a decision. > >Please do let me hear from you, even if you have no opinion. **This post >will serve as the First Quarter 2005 roll call.** > >Vivian > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >GAGenWeb By-Laws Committee Information Web Site: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/bylaws/ > > > > >

If you have two lists, it is doubtful that anyone would use the chat list. So its either allow chat or don't, and its up to how the list administrator wants to run the list. Personally, I don't want to see chat, especially on a list that I'm forced to be subscribed to. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael and Vivian Saffold To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 6:42 AM Subject: [GAGEN] chat list and roll call Hello, everyone, I have had several requests, both privately and expressed to this list, for a separate mailing list for "chat." Many of us endured terrible experiences with a two-list system administered by the previous project. I know that for the most part we have moved on from that unfortunate era, but for that reason I have been very hesitant to establish a second list. Personally, I would like to see us have as few project rules and restrictions as possible. I would much rather people remember that their fellow volunteers are busy and keep their posts to a minimum. Responses to posts like baby announcements certainly can be sent to the individual, rather than to the list. However, I certainly will do what the majority wishes. If we do agree to have a separate list, I *will not* penalize anyone for posting "chat" to the business list, and I know no one involved in this project will be so discourteous as to call another volunteer to task publicly or privately for his/her post. Please let me know how you feel about this issue. Do you favor a separate list? If so, what should be considered "business?" For example: Obviously baby announcements could go to the chat list, but what about issues such as our recent discussion of spyware? You may respond to me privately. I will compile the responses and post a brief summary, along with a decision. Please do let me hear from you, even if you have no opinion. **This post will serve as the First Quarter 2005 roll call.** Vivian ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== GAGenWeb By-Laws Committee Information Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/bylaws/

Thanks, Pat! Vivian At 11:41 AM 1/16/2005 -0500, you wrote: >I'm OK with the chat as long as the subject line is clear (and updated if >the subject changes). I'd love to have some cooperative discussion on >my other state lists, which are completely silent except for official >announcements, but I guess it's hard to encourage participation and >maintain a perfect balance all the time. > >Personally, although it seems polite to do so, I don't think every >announcement requires a response. We're just good Southerners who have >been brought up that way. ;-) > >I confess that I delete most of the messages without reading them, only >because I'm usually facing 200+ incoming messages a day, trying to zip >through them and respond appropriately. Vivian does a good job of making >it clear if a message involves important Project business (which most of >us get in multiples from other lists, anyway), so I'm not concerned that >I'll miss anything critical. > >Pat Sabin > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael and Vivian Saffold" ><[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 9:42 AM >Subject: [GAGEN] chat list and roll call > > >>Hello, everyone, >> >>I have had several requests, both privately and expressed to this list, >>for a separate mailing list for "chat." >> >>Many of us endured terrible experiences with a two-list system >>administered by the previous project. I know that for the most part we >>have moved on from that unfortunate era, but for that reason I have been >>very hesitant to establish a second list. >> >>Personally, I would like to see us have as few project rules and >>restrictions as possible. I would much rather people remember that their >>fellow volunteers are busy and keep their posts to a minimum. Responses >>to posts like baby announcements certainly can be sent to the individual, >>rather than to the list. >> >>However, I certainly will do what the majority wishes. >> >>If we do agree to have a separate list, I *will not* penalize anyone for >>posting "chat" to the business list, and I know no one involved in this >>project will be so discourteous as to call another volunteer to task >>publicly or privately for his/her post. >> >>Please let me know how you feel about this issue. Do you favor a separate >>list? If so, what should be considered "business?" For example: Obviously >>baby announcements could go to the chat list, but what about issues such >>as our recent discussion of spyware? >> >>You may respond to me privately. I will compile the responses and post a >>brief summary, along with a decision. >> >>Please do let me hear from you, even if you have no opinion. **This post >>will serve as the First Quarter 2005 roll call.** >> >>Vivian >> >> >> >> >> >>==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >>GAGenWeb By-Laws Committee Information Web Site: >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/bylaws/ >> > > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >Confused about Copyrights? Review USGenWeb's policy on copyrights at: > http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/copyright.html

I'm OK with the chat as long as the subject line is clear (and updated if the subject changes). I'd love to have some cooperative discussion on my other state lists, which are completely silent except for official announcements, but I guess it's hard to encourage participation and maintain a perfect balance all the time. Personally, although it seems polite to do so, I don't think every announcement requires a response. We're just good Southerners who have been brought up that way. ;-) I confess that I delete most of the messages without reading them, only because I'm usually facing 200+ incoming messages a day, trying to zip through them and respond appropriately. Vivian does a good job of making it clear if a message involves important Project business (which most of us get in multiples from other lists, anyway), so I'm not concerned that I'll miss anything critical. Pat Sabin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael and Vivian Saffold" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: [GAGEN] chat list and roll call > Hello, everyone, > > I have had several requests, both privately and expressed to this list, for a separate > mailing list for "chat." > > Many of us endured terrible experiences with a two-list system administered by the > previous project. I know that for the most part we have moved on from that unfortunate > era, but for that reason I have been very hesitant to establish a second list. > > Personally, I would like to see us have as few project rules and restrictions as > possible. I would much rather people remember that their fellow volunteers are busy and > keep their posts to a minimum. Responses to posts like baby announcements certainly can > be sent to the individual, rather than to the list. > > However, I certainly will do what the majority wishes. > > If we do agree to have a separate list, I *will not* penalize anyone for posting "chat" > to the business list, and I know no one involved in this project will be so discourteous > as to call another volunteer to task publicly or privately for his/her post. > > Please let me know how you feel about this issue. Do you favor a separate list? If so, > what should be considered "business?" For example: Obviously baby announcements could go > to the chat list, but what about issues such as our recent discussion of spyware? > > You may respond to me privately. I will compile the responses and post a brief summary, > along with a decision. > > Please do let me hear from you, even if you have no opinion. **This post will serve as > the First Quarter 2005 roll call.** > > Vivian > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > GAGenWeb By-Laws Committee Information Web Site: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/bylaws/ > >

One list is enough. there is a galina list that used to be for chat, but nobody used it. David On Sun, 16 Jan 2005, Michael and Vivian Saffold wrote: > Hello, everyone, > > I have had several requests, both privately and expressed to this list, for > a separate mailing list for "chat." > > Many of us endured terrible experiences with a two-list system administered > by the previous project. I know that for the most part we have moved on > from that unfortunate era, but for that reason I have been very hesitant to > establish a second list. > > Personally, I would like to see us have as few project rules and > restrictions as possible. I would much rather people remember that their > fellow volunteers are busy and keep their posts to a minimum. Responses to > posts like baby announcements certainly can be sent to the individual, > rather than to the list. > > However, I certainly will do what the majority wishes. > > If we do agree to have a separate list, I *will not* penalize anyone for > posting "chat" to the business list, and I know no one involved in this > project will be so discourteous as to call another volunteer to task > publicly or privately for his/her post. > > Please let me know how you feel about this issue. Do you favor a separate > list? If so, what should be considered "business?" For example: Obviously > baby announcements could go to the chat list, but what about issues such as > our recent discussion of spyware? > > You may respond to me privately. I will compile the responses and post a > brief summary, along with a decision. > > Please do let me hear from you, even if you have no opinion. **This post > will serve as the First Quarter 2005 roll call.** > > Vivian > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > GAGenWeb By-Laws Committee Information Web Site: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/bylaws/ > David W. Morgan [email protected] Honolulu Hawaii CC Representative, SWSC Region, USGenWeb Project http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dmorgan/

I never can make decisions :-)) so anything is fine with me...I get so much mail in a day, and have for so many years, that I'm used to it and just read everything (really!) I'd miss all the friendly talk if I couldn't read it somewhere--here or on a separate list, either is OK...it's great that we're a group where everyone gets along... Barbara Fannin, Murray, Union [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael and Vivian Saffold" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 6:42 AM Subject: [GAGEN] chat list and roll call > Hello, everyone, > > I have had several requests, both privately and expressed to this list, > for a separate mailing list for "chat." > > Many of us endured terrible experiences with a two-list system > administered by the previous project. I know that for the most part we > have moved on from that unfortunate era, but for that reason I have been > very hesitant to establish a second list. > > Personally, I would like to see us have as few project rules and > restrictions as possible. I would much rather people remember that their > fellow volunteers are busy and keep their posts to a minimum. Responses to > posts like baby announcements certainly can be sent to the individual, > rather than to the list. > > However, I certainly will do what the majority wishes. > > If we do agree to have a separate list, I *will not* penalize anyone for > posting "chat" to the business list, and I know no one involved in this > project will be so discourteous as to call another volunteer to task > publicly or privately for his/her post. > > Please let me know how you feel about this issue. Do you favor a separate > list? If so, what should be considered "business?" For example: Obviously > baby announcements could go to the chat list, but what about issues such > as our recent discussion of spyware? > > You may respond to me privately. I will compile the responses and post a > brief summary, along with a decision. > > Please do let me hear from you, even if you have no opinion. **This post > will serve as the First Quarter 2005 roll call.** > > Vivian > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > GAGenWeb By-Laws Committee Information Web Site: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/bylaws/ >