This is so true. Even USGenWeb has no control over the archives. David W. Morgan wrote: >Don't make rules over which you have no control. You have no >control over the archives. > >David > > >On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Jacki Jonas wrote: > > > >>>This subject has not been addressed by the Bylaws Committee, but here is my >>> >>> >> >opinion: >> >> >The GAGenWeb Project has no authority to regulate a anyone's participation >> >in the Archives Project. A person's participation in the Archives would >> >have no bearing on the number of sites he/she coordinates in the Georgia >> >project. >> >> >Bylaws Committee members, what do you think? >> >> I agree with Vivian. >> >> >> >>==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >>USGenWeb's motto is - Volunteers dedicated to free, on-line information. >> >> >> > >David W. Morgan [email protected] Honolulu Hawaii >CC Representative, SWSC Region, USGenWeb Project >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dmorgan/ > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >Confused about Copyrights? Review USGenWeb's policy on copyrights at: > http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/copyright.html > > > > >

RE: l object to the proposal that there be only one vote per county, > even if it has two coordinators. David, I disagree with your objection. Allowing CC's to vote more than once is what got us in trouble, before, John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA great grandson of Charles RICHTER and Anne POTTER of Madison, Morgan County,GA A Descendant of Capt James DANIEL and Jane HICKS of Albemarle County, Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: "David W. Morgan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Bylaws Committee Update > > l object to the proposal that there be only one vote per county, > even if it has two coordinators. > > Every coordinator is allowed to vote in the national elections, > even if the state rules are different. > > David > > The GAGenWeb Project Bylaws > Proposed Articles > > A Work in Progress > > This page will show articles that the committee has approved for > presenting to the CCs for comment, feedback, and/or voting. The > articles here have not passed a vote of the CCs yet, and as such are > not official. > > Article 3: Membership > > Membership in The GAGenWeb Project is granted to County Coordinators > and/or Special Project Coordinators. The State Coordinator (SC) and > Assistant State Coordinator (ASC) shall appoint County and Special > Project Coordinators as described in the GAGenWeb Policies and > Procedures. > > Each County or Special Project shall have no more than two (2) > Coordinators. A person may be a Coordinator for no more than three (3) > sites. A County or Special Project Coordinator may appoint additional > assistants if desired. A County or Special Project Coordinator may be > removed for cause as described in the GAGenWeb Policies and > Procedures. > > Each County or Special Project Coordinator shall have one vote in > GAGenWeb elections, regardless of the number of counties or special > projects they coordinate. Assistants appointed by a Coordinator are > not considered members and thus shall not vote in GAGenWeb elections. > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb's motto is - Volunteers dedicated to free, on-line information. > >

snip > > Each County or Special Project shall have no more than two (2) > > Coordinators. A person may be a Coordinator for no more than three (3) > > sites. A County or Special Project Coordinator may appoint additional > > assistants if desired. A County or Special Project Coordinator may be > > removed for cause as described in the GAGenWeb Policies and > > Procedures. > > > > Each County or Special Project Coordinator shall have one vote in > > GAGenWeb elections, regardless of the number of counties or special > > projects they coordinate. Assistants appointed by a Coordinator are > > not considered members and thus shall not vote in GAGenWeb elections. > > >snip Am I misreading this? To me what it says, using math symbols,each(County or Special Project)Coordinator will have a vote, and each county will have no more than 2 coordinators. Perhaps better wording would be "Each County Coordinator and Each Special Project Coordinator shall have one vote"... Deborah Byrd

snip In other words, these new bylaws we are discussing "Each County or Special Project shall have no more than two (2) Coordinators. A person may be a Coordinator for no more than three (3) sites. " would or would NOT limit the archives to 2 people or count in the total of sites? Snip Since the archives are part of another project under the USGENWEB umbrella, their participation in the Archives should not affect their participation in the Georgia Project. Their participation in the Archives is the same as my participation with the Florida Project where I have two counties that I "manage". I don't have to give up my Florida counties to particpate in Georgia's Project. Deborah Byrd

A while back, we discussed the Vanishing Georgia Collection of photographs that is available online at the University of Georgia Web site. Several ways to access this collection were offered. Linda Aaron (Elbert) suggests one more: http://neptune3.galib.uga.edu Click on Digital Library of Georgia (right above Quick Help). Then, scroll down to Vanishing Georgia. Linda also points out that the Digital Library also contains many other documents that can be helpful to Georgia genealogy researchers, such as Georgia Legislative Documents and Southeastern Native American Documents. Thanks, Linda. Vivian

It has nothing to do with the archives, period. Special projects should be eliminated from the rules until the time when GA actually has a special project. David On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, D W Byrd wrote: > > snip > > In other words, these new bylaws we are discussing > "Each County or Special Project shall have no more than two (2) Coordinators. > A person may be a Coordinator for no more than three (3) sites. " > would or would NOT limit the archives to 2 people or count in the total of > sites? > Snip > > Since the archives are part of another project under the USGENWEB umbrella, their participation in the Archives should not affect their participation in the Georgia Project. Their participation in the Archives is the same as my participation with the Florida Project where I have two counties that I "manage". I don't have to give up my Florida counties to particpate in Georgia's Project. > > Deborah Byrd > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Confused about Copyrights? Review USGenWeb's policy on copyrights at: > http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/copyright.html > David W. Morgan [email protected] Honolulu Hawaii CC Representative, SWSC Region, USGenWeb Project http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dmorgan/

By all means, be ridiculous. David On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, John R. Clarke wrote: > Why stop there. Why not let every visitor to a county website or submitter > to the ga archives vote? > > great grandson of Charles RICHTER and Anne POTTER of Madison, Morgan > County,GA > A Descendant of Capt James DANIEL and Jane HICKS of Albemarle County, > Virginia > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David W. Morgan" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 4:39 PM > Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Bylaws Committee Update > > > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, John R. Clarke wrote: > > > >> RE: l object to the proposal that there be only one vote per county, > >> > even if it has two coordinators. > >> David, > >> I disagree with your objection. Allowing CC's to vote more than once is > >> what got us in trouble, before, > > > > This has nothing to do with allowing CCs to vote more than once. It > > has to do with being fair, in allowing all the volunteers to vote once. > > > > David > > > > > >> > >> John R. Clarke > >> Thomasville, GA > >> > >> > >> > >> great grandson of Charles RICHTER and Anne POTTER of Madison, Morgan > >> County,GA > >> A Descendant of Capt James DANIEL and Jane HICKS of Albemarle County, > >> Virginia > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "David W. Morgan" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 1:47 PM > >> Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Bylaws Committee Update > >> > >> > >> > > >> > l object to the proposal that there be only one vote per county, > >> > even if it has two coordinators. > >> > > >> > Every coordinator is allowed to vote in the national elections, > >> > even if the state rules are different. > >> > > >> > David > >> > > >> > The GAGenWeb Project Bylaws > >> > Proposed Articles > >> > > >> > A Work in Progress > >> > > >> > This page will show articles that the committee has approved for > >> > presenting to the CCs for comment, feedback, and/or voting. The > >> > articles here have not passed a vote of the CCs yet, and as such are > >> > not official. > >> > > >> > Article 3: Membership > >> > > >> > Membership in The GAGenWeb Project is granted to County Coordinators > >> > and/or Special Project Coordinators. The State Coordinator (SC) and > >> > Assistant State Coordinator (ASC) shall appoint County and Special > >> > Project Coordinators as described in the GAGenWeb Policies and > >> > Procedures. > >> > > >> > Each County or Special Project shall have no more than two (2) > >> > Coordinators. A person may be a Coordinator for no more than three > >> > (3) > >> > sites. A County or Special Project Coordinator may appoint additional > >> > assistants if desired. A County or Special Project Coordinator may be > >> > removed for cause as described in the GAGenWeb Policies and > >> > Procedures. > >> > > >> > Each County or Special Project Coordinator shall have one vote in > >> > GAGenWeb elections, regardless of the number of counties or special > >> > projects they coordinate. Assistants appointed by a Coordinator are > >> > not considered members and thus shall not vote in GAGenWeb elections. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > >> > USGenWeb's motto is - Volunteers dedicated to free, on-line > >> > information. > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > >> USGenWeb's motto is - Volunteers dedicated to free, on-line information. > >> > > > > David W. Morgan [email protected] Honolulu Hawaii > > CC Representative, SWSC Region, USGenWeb Project > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dmorgan/ > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > > Confused about Copyrights? Review USGenWeb's policy on copyrights at: > > http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/copyright.html > > > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Confused about Copyrights? Review USGenWeb's policy on copyrights at: > http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/copyright.html > David W. Morgan [email protected] Honolulu Hawaii CC Representative, SWSC Region, USGenWeb Project http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dmorgan/

Sylvia, I would assume so, but from the past I think there has always been some confusion. Donna In a message dated 3/23/05 12:12:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Doesn't GAGenWeb indicate State? And USGenWeb indicate National? ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 12:09 PM Subject: Re: BIZ Re: [GAGEN] Bylaws Committee Update Maybe we should add the word State. "Membership in The GAGenWeb Project is granted to County Coordinators and/or State Special Project Coordinators." "Each County or State Special Project shall have no more than two (2) Coordinators. A person may be a Coordinator for no more than three (3) sites. " and under something (definitions?) spell out USGenWeb Archives is a National Special Project. >>

Has anyone heard from Vickie Ashley (Berrien and Cook) lately or have an alternate mailing address for her? Her mail is bouncing. Vivian

Good idea, Donna. The Special Projects wording was added to give GAGenWeb the flexibility to have Special Projects in the future, if the membership so chooses. Vivian At 12:09 PM 3/23/2005 -0500, you wrote: >Maybe we should add the word State. > >"Membership in The GAGenWeb Project is granted to County Coordinators and/or >State Special Project Coordinators." > >"Each County or State Special Project shall have no more than two (2) >Coordinators. A person may be a Coordinator for no more than three (3) >sites. " > >and under something (definitions?) spell out >USGenWeb Archives is a National Special Project. > >I believe at this time, all the archives people are also CCs, but that could >chamge. > >Donna > > >In a message dated 3/23/05 11:51:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: > ><< This subject has not been addressed by the Bylaws Committee, but here is >my > opinion: > > The GAGenWeb Project has no authority to regulate a anyone's participation > in the Archives Project. A person's participation in the Archives would > have no bearing on the number of sites he/she coordinates in the Georgia > project. > > Bylaws Committee members, what do you think? > > Vivian > > At 11:36 AM 3/23/2005 -0500, you wrote: > >In other words, these new bylaws we are discussing > >"Each County or Special Project shall have no more than two (2) >Coordinators. > >A person may be a Coordinator for no more than three (3) sites. " > >would or would NOT limit the archives to 2 people or count in the total of > >sites? > > > >Donna > > > >In a message dated 3/23/05 10:38:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, > >[email protected] writes: > > > ><< Donna, > > > > Structurally and "legally," the Archives is a USGenWeb Special Project. >The > > GAGenWeb Project has no special projects at this time. > > > > However, by virtue of the fact that the Archives is a part of > USGenWeb, it > > also is a part of GAGenWeb. I think we can all agree that we do a > > tremendous service to researchers if we direct them to this valuable > >resource. > > > > Vivian >> >> > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >GAGenWeb By-Laws Committee Information Web Site: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/bylaws/

Doesn't GAGenWeb indicate State? And USGenWeb indicate National? ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 12:09 PM Subject: Re: BIZ Re: [GAGEN] Bylaws Committee Update Maybe we should add the word State. "Membership in The GAGenWeb Project is granted to County Coordinators and/or State Special Project Coordinators." "Each County or State Special Project shall have no more than two (2) Coordinators. A person may be a Coordinator for no more than three (3) sites. " and under something (definitions?) spell out USGenWeb Archives is a National Special Project.

>Maybe we should add the word State. > >"Membership in The GAGenWeb Project is granted to County Coordinators and/or >State Special Project Coordinators." > >"Each County or State Special Project shall have no more than two (2) >Coordinators. A person may be a Coordinator for no more than three (3) >sites. " I think the addition of State would clarify it. 

>This subject has not been addressed by the Bylaws Committee, but here is my >opinion: >The GAGenWeb Project has no authority to regulate a anyone's participation >in the Archives Project. A person's participation in the Archives would >have no bearing on the number of sites he/she coordinates in the Georgia >project. >Bylaws Committee members, what do you think? I agree with Vivian.

Maybe we should add the word State. "Membership in The GAGenWeb Project is granted to County Coordinators and/or State Special Project Coordinators." "Each County or State Special Project shall have no more than two (2) Coordinators. A person may be a Coordinator for no more than three (3) sites. " and under something (definitions?) spell out USGenWeb Archives is a National Special Project. I believe at this time, all the archives people are also CCs, but that could chamge. Donna In a message dated 3/23/05 11:51:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << This subject has not been addressed by the Bylaws Committee, but here is my opinion: The GAGenWeb Project has no authority to regulate a anyone's participation in the Archives Project. A person's participation in the Archives would have no bearing on the number of sites he/she coordinates in the Georgia project. Bylaws Committee members, what do you think? Vivian At 11:36 AM 3/23/2005 -0500, you wrote: >In other words, these new bylaws we are discussing >"Each County or Special Project shall have no more than two (2) Coordinators. >A person may be a Coordinator for no more than three (3) sites. " >would or would NOT limit the archives to 2 people or count in the total of >sites? > >Donna > >In a message dated 3/23/05 10:38:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: > ><< Donna, > > Structurally and "legally," the Archives is a USGenWeb Special Project. The > GAGenWeb Project has no special projects at this time. > > However, by virtue of the fact that the Archives is a part of USGenWeb, it > also is a part of GAGenWeb. I think we can all agree that we do a > tremendous service to researchers if we direct them to this valuable >resource. > > Vivian >> >>

This subject has not been addressed by the Bylaws Committee, but here is my opinion: The GAGenWeb Project has no authority to regulate a anyone's participation in the Archives Project. A person's participation in the Archives would have no bearing on the number of sites he/she coordinates in the Georgia project. Bylaws Committee members, what do you think? Vivian At 11:36 AM 3/23/2005 -0500, you wrote: >In other words, these new bylaws we are discussing >"Each County or Special Project shall have no more than two (2) Coordinators. >A person may be a Coordinator for no more than three (3) sites. " >would or would NOT limit the archives to 2 people or count in the total of >sites? > >Donna > >In a message dated 3/23/05 10:38:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: > ><< Donna, > > Structurally and "legally," the Archives is a USGenWeb Special Project. The > GAGenWeb Project has no special projects at this time. > > However, by virtue of the fact that the Archives is a part of USGenWeb, it > also is a part of GAGenWeb. I think we can all agree that we do a > tremendous service to researchers if we direct them to this valuable >resource. > > Vivian >> > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >Confused about Copyrights? Review USGenWeb's policy on copyrights at: > http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/copyright.html

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, John R. Clarke wrote: > RE: l object to the proposal that there be only one vote per county, > > even if it has two coordinators. > David, > I disagree with your objection. Allowing CC's to vote more than once is > what got us in trouble, before, This has nothing to do with allowing CCs to vote more than once. It has to do with being fair, in allowing all the volunteers to vote once. David > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > > > > great grandson of Charles RICHTER and Anne POTTER of Madison, Morgan > County,GA > A Descendant of Capt James DANIEL and Jane HICKS of Albemarle County, > Virginia > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David W. Morgan" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 1:47 PM > Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Bylaws Committee Update > > > > > > l object to the proposal that there be only one vote per county, > > even if it has two coordinators. > > > > Every coordinator is allowed to vote in the national elections, > > even if the state rules are different. > > > > David > > > > The GAGenWeb Project Bylaws > > Proposed Articles > > > > A Work in Progress > > > > This page will show articles that the committee has approved for > > presenting to the CCs for comment, feedback, and/or voting. The > > articles here have not passed a vote of the CCs yet, and as such are > > not official. > > > > Article 3: Membership > > > > Membership in The GAGenWeb Project is granted to County Coordinators > > and/or Special Project Coordinators. The State Coordinator (SC) and > > Assistant State Coordinator (ASC) shall appoint County and Special > > Project Coordinators as described in the GAGenWeb Policies and > > Procedures. > > > > Each County or Special Project shall have no more than two (2) > > Coordinators. A person may be a Coordinator for no more than three (3) > > sites. A County or Special Project Coordinator may appoint additional > > assistants if desired. A County or Special Project Coordinator may be > > removed for cause as described in the GAGenWeb Policies and > > Procedures. > > > > Each County or Special Project Coordinator shall have one vote in > > GAGenWeb elections, regardless of the number of counties or special > > projects they coordinate. Assistants appointed by a Coordinator are > > not considered members and thus shall not vote in GAGenWeb elections. > > > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > > USGenWeb's motto is - Volunteers dedicated to free, on-line information. > > > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb's motto is - Volunteers dedicated to free, on-line information. > David W. Morgan [email protected] Honolulu Hawaii CC Representative, SWSC Region, USGenWeb Project http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dmorgan/

In other words, these new bylaws we are discussing "Each County or Special Project shall have no more than two (2) Coordinators. A person may be a Coordinator for no more than three (3) sites. " would or would NOT limit the archives to 2 people or count in the total of sites? Donna In a message dated 3/23/05 10:38:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Donna, Structurally and "legally," the Archives is a USGenWeb Special Project. The GAGenWeb Project has no special projects at this time. However, by virtue of the fact that the Archives is a part of USGenWeb, it also is a part of GAGenWeb. I think we can all agree that we do a tremendous service to researchers if we direct them to this valuable resource. Vivian >>

I will add my voice to Jacki's in urging all of you to take a look at the Bylaws Committee's most recent proposals and register your comments. Vivian At 09:28 PM 3/22/2005 -0500, you wrote: >Hi again, > >Let me once again encourage you to let the committee know what you think >about the current proposals. We need your input! > >Let me mention one topic in particular -- the site requirements. There are >several items on the list we've proposed. We talked a bit about making >part of them requirements and part of them suggestions but didn't split >the list up, waiting for feedback from you. > >The current proposals may be seen at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/bylaws/proposals.html, or on the Bylaws >Message Board (http://www.thegaproject.org/discuss.htm). You'll need to be >a registered user to post comments on the message board but everyone can >read it. If you want to be registered, just drop me an email and I'll set >it up. > >Thanks, > >Jacki > > > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >Confused about Copyrights? Review USGenWeb's policy on copyrights at: > http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/copyright.html

Donna, Structurally and "legally," the Archives is a USGenWeb Special Project. The GAGenWeb Project has no special projects at this time. However, by virtue of the fact that the Archives is a part of USGenWeb, it also is a part of GAGenWeb. I think we can all agree that we do a tremendous service to researchers if we direct them to this valuable resource. Vivian At 09:49 PM 3/22/2005 -0500, you wrote: >I have a quick question. >Are the Archives considered a State Special Project or do they come under >National? > >Donna > >In a message dated 3/22/05 9:29:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: > ><< Hi again, > > Let me once again encourage you to let the committee know what you think > about the current proposals. We need your input! > > Let me mention one topic in particular -- the site requirements. There are > several items on the list we've proposed. We talked a bit about making part > of them requirements and part of them suggestions but didn't split the list > up, waiting for feedback from you. > > The current proposals may be seen at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/bylaws/proposals.html, or on the Bylaws > Message Board (http://www.thegaproject.org/discuss.htm). You'll need to be > a registered user to post comments on the message board but everyone can > read it. If you want to be registered, just drop me an email and I'll set > it up. > > Thanks, > > Jacki > >> > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >USGenWeb's motto is - Volunteers dedicated to free, on-line information.

l object to the proposal that there be only one vote per county, even if it has two coordinators. Every coordinator is allowed to vote in the national elections, even if the state rules are different. David The GAGenWeb Project Bylaws Proposed Articles A Work in Progress This page will show articles that the committee has approved for presenting to the CCs for comment, feedback, and/or voting. The articles here have not passed a vote of the CCs yet, and as such are not official. Article 3: Membership Membership in The GAGenWeb Project is granted to County Coordinators and/or Special Project Coordinators. The State Coordinator (SC) and Assistant State Coordinator (ASC) shall appoint County and Special Project Coordinators as described in the GAGenWeb Policies and Procedures. Each County or Special Project shall have no more than two (2) Coordinators. A person may be a Coordinator for no more than three (3) sites. A County or Special Project Coordinator may appoint additional assistants if desired. A County or Special Project Coordinator may be removed for cause as described in the GAGenWeb Policies and Procedures. Each County or Special Project Coordinator shall have one vote in GAGenWeb elections, regardless of the number of counties or special projects they coordinate. Assistants appointed by a Coordinator are not considered members and thus shall not vote in GAGenWeb elections.