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    1. Re: [GAGEN] Re: Privacy Committee
    2. It has been my policy not to use information on living individuals except that information which is public. I did not have this policy stated on the Stephens County web page but after reading with interest the comments about a privacy policy for GaGenWeb Project pages I have added the policy: Note: To protect the privacy of living individuals no information will be published on this site, birth or similar, that is protected under Georgia law and not considered as public. Public is defined as belonging to the people; circulating among all people; open; generally known; common to all and open to general use. Howard Farmer County Coordinator, Stephens County GAGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~gasteph2/index.htm

    03/31/2005 04:14:55
    1. Re: Privacy Committee
    2. I have no formalized statement of policy on the site, but I would never knowingly post information about a living person without their written permission. I do agree that we need a policy, however I am always afraid that restrictions will "throw out the baby." I do think we should be very careful about the fences we place around our quest for knowledge and information. Liz Nash County Coordinator, Lincoln County GAGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~galincol/

    03/31/2005 01:23:29
    1. Re: [GAGEN] 1930 Convicts
    2. D W Byrd
    3. Thnks Lori for the information Deborah Byrd ----- Original Message ----- From: Lori Thornton [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 3/30/2005 6:23:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [GAGEN] 1930 Convicts Genealogy Blog has an interesting link regarding 1930 GA convicts in a few counties. If you are one of the lucky counties, you might find it an interesting link to add. http://genealogyblog.com/?p=3688 Lori Thornton

    03/30/2005 11:05:28
    1. RE: [GAGEN] Privacy Committee
    2. Harry Folsom
    3. I have no formal policy on my sites but I have restricted info to exclude vital info on living person. Harry Folsom -----Original Message----- From: Michael and Vivian Saffold [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 7:46 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [GAGEN] Privacy Committee This very complex issue was rather hotly debated for several days on a couple of mailing lists. As Keith has pointed out, the motion to require removal of contemporary birth records from the Texas Archvies failed. Judging from the debate, the failure of the motion was due to as many and varied reasons as there are participants. I am open to discussion on whether or not GAGenWeb should have a privacy policy. I would like to hear from more of you on this question. Also, if we do agree that GAGenWeb should have a policy, should it be developed by a new committee or by the existing Bylaws Committee. At this time, let's NOT debate the privacy issue itself, only whether or not GAGenWeb should have a policy. Vivian At 02:05 PM 3/28/2005 -0700, you wrote: >A motion is currently being voted upon by the USGW AB and appears to be >on its way to failing. This motion would have required the USGW >Archives-TX to remove data on living individuals. (They have thousands >of birth records online even for children). >I now ask the GAGenWeb leadership to allow the formation of an official >committee to construct a Privacy Policy. This policy would (hopefully) >pioneer a mindset within USGenWeb that we are genealogists who help >others research their ancestors, not living individuals. >I volunteer myself for this committee as I am a Privacy Rights >Clearinghouse contact on the subject of Identity Theft. >Let's please take the lead on this issue. GAGenWeb has been >professionally and aptly operated for almost a year now and I feel it's >time we break out and show others we can lead where necessary. > >--Keith ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== Confused about Copyrights? Review USGenWeb's policy on copyrights at: http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/copyright.html

    03/30/2005 06:45:02
    1. Re: [GAGEN] County privacy policies
    2. Joy Fisher
    3. My policy is "If they ain't dead, it ain't genealogy" I have not stated it on my site, however. --- Michael and Vivian Saffold <[email protected]> wrote: > Other than Bob Franks, how many of you already have > a privacy policy? If > so, is that policy stated on your Web site? > > Vivian > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Confused about Copyrights? Review USGenWeb's policy > on copyrights at: > http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/copyright.html > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

    03/30/2005 12:31:51
    1. Re: County privacy policies
    2. <Other than Bob Franks, how many of you already have a privacy policy? If so, is that policy stated on your Web site?> I think we should have a privacy policy. I do not have a privacy policy on either of my county pages. Seana Coulter Campbell County Talbot County

    03/30/2005 11:40:53
    1. 1930 Convicts
    2. Lori Thornton
    3. Genealogy Blog has an interesting link regarding 1930 GA convicts in a few counties. If you are one of the lucky counties, you might find it an interesting link to add. http://genealogyblog.com/?p=3688 Lori Thornton Lori Thornton [email protected] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    03/30/2005 11:23:11
    1. Re: [GAGEN] Privacy Committee
    2. i believe that this is something that has been needed for a while now. there have been several areas that are in what I consider a gray area and I can see both sides. The first, allowing the data to be posted to help the researchers, the 2nd, respecting the privacy of the person's whose name is posted. For example, there are a number of obits listed both here at GAGenWeb, in the GAGenWeb Archives, and even on other project sites that list the living spouse, children and even the pallbearers. I need to go over my own site and data to double-check what I have. Having a policy on this will keep GAGenWeb uniform throughout the state and then we won't have to worry about any question as to whether the info we have should or should not be posted. Also, I believe that there should be a new committee. Melody > I am open to discussion on whether or not GAGenWeb should have a privacy > policy. I would like to hear from more of you on this question. > > Also, if we do agree that GAGenWeb should have a policy, should it be > developed by a new committee or by the existing Bylaws Committee. > > At this time, let's NOT debate the privacy issue itself, only whether or > not GAGenWeb should have a policy. > > Vivian > > > At 02:05 PM 3/28/2005 -0700, you wrote: > >A motion is currently being voted upon by the USGW AB and appears to be on > >its way to failing. This motion would have required the USGW Archives-TX > >to remove data on living individuals. (They have thousands of birth > >records online even for children). > >I now ask the GAGenWeb leadership to allow the formation of an official > >committee to construct a Privacy Policy. This policy would (hopefully) > >pioneer a mindset within USGenWeb that we are genealogists who help others > >research their ancestors, not living individuals. > >I volunteer myself for this committee as I am a Privacy Rights > >Clearinghouse contact on the subject of Identity Theft. > >Let's please take the lead on this issue. GAGenWeb has been professionally > >and aptly operated for almost a year now and I feel it's time we break out > >and show others we can lead where necessary. > > > >--Keith > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Confused about Copyrights? Review USGenWeb's policy on copyrights at: > http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/copyright.html > >

    03/30/2005 09:50:31
    1. Re: [GAGEN] Privacy Committee
    2. Keith Giddeon
    3. Yes, we need a privacy policy. A separate committee would seem to be most prudent since the Bylaws Committee is already tasked with an enormous duty. --Keith Michael and Vivian Saffold wrote: > This very complex issue was rather hotly debated for several days on a > couple of mailing lists. As Keith has pointed out, the motion to > require removal of contemporary birth records from the Texas Archvies > failed. Judging from the debate, the failure of the motion was due to > as many and varied reasons as there are participants. > > I am open to discussion on whether or not GAGenWeb should have a > privacy policy. I would like to hear from more of you on this question. > > Also, if we do agree that GAGenWeb should have a policy, should it be > developed by a new committee or by the existing Bylaws Committee. > > At this time, let's NOT debate the privacy issue itself, only whether > or not GAGenWeb should have a policy. > > Vivian > > > At 02:05 PM 3/28/2005 -0700, you wrote: > >> A motion is currently being voted upon by the USGW AB and appears to >> be on its way to failing. This motion would have required the USGW >> Archives-TX to remove data on living individuals. (They have >> thousands of birth records online even for children). >> I now ask the GAGenWeb leadership to allow the formation of an >> official committee to construct a Privacy Policy. This policy would >> (hopefully) pioneer a mindset within USGenWeb that we are >> genealogists who help others research their ancestors, not living >> individuals. >> I volunteer myself for this committee as I am a Privacy Rights >> Clearinghouse contact on the subject of Identity Theft. >> Let's please take the lead on this issue. GAGenWeb has been >> professionally and aptly operated for almost a year now and I feel >> it's time we break out and show others we can lead where necessary. >> >> --Keith > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Confused about Copyrights? Review USGenWeb's policy on copyrights at: > http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/copyright.html > > > > >

    03/30/2005 08:38:09
    1. Re: [GAGEN] County privacy policies
    2. Keith Giddeon
    3. Wilkes County has had a policy since its inception. http://www.giddeon.com/wilkes/privacy.shtml Note: Bob's is better. Michael and Vivian Saffold wrote: > Other than Bob Franks, how many of you already have a privacy policy? > If so, is that policy stated on your Web site? > > Vivian > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Confused about Copyrights? Review USGenWeb's policy on copyrights at: > http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/copyright.html > > > > >

    03/30/2005 08:36:02
    1. Re: [GAGEN] Privacy Committee
    2. John R. Clarke
    3. Melody There is no projection for information in public records or newspaper accounts and both of these can contain information on living individuals. a person also submitting query is also displaying and there email address is included in all county list posts to which they reply. I think someone is opening a bag of worms worrying about "privacy" on a genealogical driven website. great grandson of Charles W, RICHTER Sr. and Anne POTTER of Madison, Morgan County,GA A Descendant of Capt James DANIEL and Jane HICKS of Albemarle County, Virginia John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Privacy Committee > > i believe that this is something that has been needed for a while now. > there have been several areas that are in what I consider a gray area and > I can see both sides. The first, allowing the data to be posted to help > the researchers, the 2nd, respecting the privacy of the person's whose > name is posted. For example, there are a number of obits listed both here > at GAGenWeb, in the GAGenWeb Archives, and even on other project sites > that list the living spouse, children and even the pallbearers. > > I need to go over my own site and data to double-check what I have. > > Having a policy on this will keep GAGenWeb uniform throughout the state > and then we won't have to worry about any question as to whether the info > we have should or should not be posted. > > Also, I believe that there should be a new committee. > > Melody > > >> I am open to discussion on whether or not GAGenWeb should have a privacy >> policy. I would like to hear from more of you on this question. >> >> Also, if we do agree that GAGenWeb should have a policy, should it be >> developed by a new committee or by the existing Bylaws Committee. >> >> At this time, let's NOT debate the privacy issue itself, only whether or >> not GAGenWeb should have a policy. >> >> Vivian >> >> >> At 02:05 PM 3/28/2005 -0700, you wrote: >> >A motion is currently being voted upon by the USGW AB and appears to be >> >on >> >its way to failing. This motion would have required the USGW Archives-TX >> >to remove data on living individuals. (They have thousands of birth >> >records online even for children). >> >I now ask the GAGenWeb leadership to allow the formation of an official >> >committee to construct a Privacy Policy. This policy would (hopefully) >> >pioneer a mindset within USGenWeb that we are genealogists who help >> >others >> >research their ancestors, not living individuals. >> >I volunteer myself for this committee as I am a Privacy Rights >> >Clearinghouse contact on the subject of Identity Theft. >> >Let's please take the lead on this issue. GAGenWeb has been >> >professionally >> >and aptly operated for almost a year now and I feel it's time we break >> >out >> >and show others we can lead where necessary. >> > >> >--Keith >> >> >> >> ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >> Confused about Copyrights? Review USGenWeb's policy on copyrights at: >> http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/copyright.html >> >> > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb's motto is - Volunteers dedicated to free, on-line information. >

    03/30/2005 05:13:41
    1. Re: [GAGEN] Privacy Policy
    2. John R. Clarke
    3. I know most of you folks hate Microsoft but they have a great explanation of website privacy at http://www.microsoft.com/info/privacy.mspx John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "D W Byrd" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Privacy Policy > > > snip > > "It has been suggested that obituaries dated after 1930 not be posted > hereon. Up until this time we have accepted all obituaries in order to > accommodate you, however, please consider the possible invasion of privacy > of all relatives and use your judgment as to whether or not to submit the > obituary. Also, obituaries printed in newspapers after 1923 are > copyrighted > by the newspaper. Please be aware of Copyright Information(link). Facts > are not copyrighted and may be submitted in your own format but not the > exact wording of a published obituary. " > > snip > > VERY Nice > > I may use your model on my web pages. > > Deborah Byrd > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb's motto is - Volunteers dedicated to free, on-line information. > >

    03/30/2005 03:25:14
    1. Re: [GAGEN] By-Laws
    2. Michael and Vivian Saffold
    3. The Bylaws Committee has completely reviewed the old guidelines, and has almost completed a re-write of the old guidelines. Committee chairman Jacki Jones has been placing manageable portions online for comment in preparation for a vote by the entire membership. The current proposals may be seen at http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/bylaws/proposals.html The discussion Message Board may be found at http://www.thegaproject.org/discuss.htm Vivian At 10:15 AM 3/30/2005 -0500, you wrote: >For those that are new, the old guidelines are here. >http://web.archive.org/web/20031207082314/http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/gu >idelines.htm > >I suggest that we review them item by item, roll call vote on changes and >then adopt the revided version. The main points that need to be changed >are to >provide for the election of the SC and for election of regional assistants >(helpers). > >Donna > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >GAGenWeb By-Laws Committee Information Web Site: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/bylaws/

    03/30/2005 03:23:41
    1. Re: [GAGEN] County privacy policies
    2. Chuck and Beth
    3. I agree with the need for a privacy policy. I don't publish living people on my county pages. At some point I read on this list a discussion about the cut-off year for publishing information - I had it in my head persons with birthdates after 1920 - but that's just what I remember. I have used that as my rule-of-thumb since. With tombstones - I don't publish the stone if there is a living person's name on half the stone - or crop the picture to leave that part of the stone off. Somehow it bothers me to publish a headstone for someone who is still living. I don't have a privacy policy published on my pages - but I think it's a good thing to do and will put a policy on the front pages asap. Beth Gordon Co GAGenWeb Coordinator Spalding Co GAGenWeb Coordinator etc. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael and Vivian Saffold" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:01 AM Subject: [GAGEN] County privacy policies > Other than Bob Franks, how many of you already have a privacy policy? If > so, is that policy stated on your Web site? > > Vivian > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > Confused about Copyrights? Review USGenWeb's policy on copyrights at: > http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/copyright.html > >

    03/30/2005 03:20:27
    1. Re: [GAGEN] By-Laws
    2. sorry - revised In a message dated 3/30/05 10:16:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << then adopt the revided version >>

    03/30/2005 03:18:18
    1. By-Laws
    2. For those that are new, the old guidelines are here. http://web.archive.org/web/20031207082314/http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/gu idelines.htm I suggest that we review them item by item, roll call vote on changes and then adopt the revided version. The main points that need to be changed are to provide for the election of the SC and for election of regional assistants (helpers). Donna

    03/30/2005 03:15:42
    1. Re: [GAGEN] Privacy Committee
    2. Lorraine Newsome
    3. I agree, Keith came up with a valid idea, and I think a state policy would be great. I think there could be a committee for just a Privacy Policy, not by the bylaws committee... they have their plate full already. ;-) Just my 2ยข worth... Lorraine Walker County At 07:45 AM 3/30/2005, you wrote: ><snip> >I am open to discussion on whether or not GAGenWeb should have a privacy >policy. I would like to hear from more of you on this question. > >Also, if we do agree that GAGenWeb should have a policy, should it be >developed by a new committee or by the existing Bylaws Committee. ><snip>

    03/30/2005 02:40:41
    1. Privacy Policy
    2. My has been my personal policy is to not publish names of living individuals on Cemetery surveys and obituaries. If an obituary names survivors, I usually try to caution the person submitting the obituary. I have the below statement on the Haralson County page (http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaharals). "It has been suggested that obituaries dated after 1930 not be posted hereon. Up until this time we have accepted all obituaries in order to accommodate you, however, please consider the possible invasion of privacy of all relatives and use your judgment as to whether or not to submit the obituary. Also, obituaries printed in newspapers after 1923 are copyrighted by the newspaper. Please be aware of Copyright Information(link). Facts are not copyrighted and may be submitted in your own format but not the exact wording of a published obituary. " A statewide policy would be good. Liz Robertson

    03/30/2005 01:51:01
    1. RE: [GAGEN] Privacy Committee
    2. Doris Robbins
    3. This is one area that I would like to have a better understanding of. It would be nice to have something to go by. I say yes, we need a policy. Doris > [Original Message] > From: Ed Gordon <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 3/30/05 7:47:36 AM > Subject: RE: [GAGEN] Privacy Committee > > I feel we do need a policy > > Regards > > Ed > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Michael and Vivian Saffold [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 7:46 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [GAGEN] Privacy Committee > > > > > > This very complex issue was rather hotly debated for several > > days on a > > couple of mailing lists. As Keith has pointed out, the motion > > to require > > removal of contemporary birth records from the Texas Archvies failed. > > Judging from the debate, the failure of the motion was due to > > as many and > > varied reasons as there are participants. > > > > I am open to discussion on whether or not GAGenWeb should > > have a privacy > > policy. I would like to hear from more of you on this question. > > > > Also, if we do agree that GAGenWeb should have a policy, should it be > > developed by a new committee or by the existing Bylaws Committee. > > > > At this time, let's NOT debate the privacy issue itself, only > > whether or > > not GAGenWeb should have a policy. > > > > Vivian > > > > > > At 02:05 PM 3/28/2005 -0700, you wrote: > > >A motion is currently being voted upon by the USGW AB and > > appears to be > > >on > > >its way to failing. This motion would have required the USGW > > Archives-TX > > >to remove data on living individuals. (They have thousands of birth > > >records online even for children). > > >I now ask the GAGenWeb leadership to allow the formation of > > an official > > >committee to construct a Privacy Policy. This policy would > > (hopefully) > > >pioneer a mindset within USGenWeb that we are genealogists > > who help others > > >research their ancestors, not living individuals. > > >I volunteer myself for this committee as I am a Privacy Rights > > >Clearinghouse contact on the subject of Identity Theft. > > >Let's please take the lead on this issue. GAGenWeb has been > > professionally > > >and aptly operated for almost a year now and I feel it's > > time we break out > > >and show others we can lead where necessary. > > > > > >--Keith > > > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > > Confused about Copyrights? Review USGenWeb's policy on copyrights at: > > http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/copyright.html > > > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > GAGenWeb By-Laws Committee Information Web Site: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/bylaws/

    03/30/2005 01:06:13
    1. Re: [GAGEN] Privacy Committee
    2. A privacy policy would be nice although it should be for the whole project. It should be included in the by-laws. Donna In a message dated 3/30/05 7:45:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << This very complex issue was rather hotly debated for several days on a couple of mailing lists. As Keith has pointed out, the motion to require removal of contemporary birth records from the Texas Archvies failed. Judging from the debate, the failure of the motion was due to as many and varied reasons as there are participants. I am open to discussion on whether or not GAGenWeb should have a privacy policy. I would like to hear from more of you on this question. Also, if we do agree that GAGenWeb should have a policy, should it be developed by a new committee or by the existing Bylaws Committee. At this time, let's NOT debate the privacy issue itself, only whether or not GAGenWeb should have a policy. Vivian >>

    03/30/2005 01:05:31